Rip Taylor Hawkins

facepollution

DE4173 said:

Not sure if this has been posted. Great read:

https://coryreeder.substack.com/p/taylorhawkins?r=yza2n&s=w&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

Beautifully written, I think we can all identify with many of the sentiments expressed there. 

HughFreakingDillon

does anyone else have a delayed sadness to these deaths? with Chris Cornell, it was immediate and harsh (couldn't hold back my tears, even at work in front of co workers). I don't remember hearing about Layne, strangely. But with Kurt, it didn't seem to register. I think I remember even laughing at first at the news. Which, looking back, sounds callous but I think it was just a weird reaction to shocking news. Same with Taylor. My wife told me in the morning. Didn't really register or seem to bother me at first. Then slowly during the course of the day, I became sad. Came to a head at the show I was at that evening. 

nicknyr15

HughFreakingDillon said:

does anyone else have a delayed sadness to these deaths? with Chris Cornell, it was immediate and harsh (couldn't hold back my tears, even at work in front of co workers). I don't remember hearing about Layne, strangely. But with Kurt, it didn't seem to register. I think I remember even laughing at first at the news. Which, looking back, sounds callous but I think it was just a weird reaction to shocking news. Same with Taylor. My wife told me in the morning. Didn't really register or seem to bother me at first. Then slowly during the course of the day, I became sad. Came to a head at the show I was at that evening. 

Haven’t been able to get Taylor out of my mind 

GlowGirl

DE4173 said:

Not sure if this has been posted. Great read:

https://coryreeder.substack.com/p/taylorhawkins?r=yza2n&s=w&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

Thanks for sharing. This was a nice tribute.

JH6056

HughFreakingDillon said:

no, no, no. that kid is cute, and talented for sure, but I wish people would stop suggesting her. 

Wait, is anyone SERIOUSLY suggesting her?  I read any mention of her as a replacement as a sweet or funny thing, but definitely not serious.  Are some people really thinking that a 10 yr old go on the kind of touring that the Foos have done for ages???  

Even with family & a throng of tutors & caregivers on the road with her, that idea is INSANE.

facepollution

HughFreakingDillon said:

does anyone else have a delayed sadness to these deaths? with Chris Cornell, it was immediate and harsh (couldn't hold back my tears, even at work in front of co workers). I don't remember hearing about Layne, strangely. But with Kurt, it didn't seem to register. I think I remember even laughing at first at the news. Which, looking back, sounds callous but I think it was just a weird reaction to shocking news. Same with Taylor. My wife told me in the morning. Didn't really register or seem to bother me at first. Then slowly during the course of the day, I became sad. Came to a head at the show I was at that evening. 

These things tend to consume me. It's the ones that come as a shock that feel the worst. Whilst I felt immense sadness (and still do) when Layne, Scott Weiland and most recently Mark Lanegan died, given the lifestyles they led, I was entirely surprised. Cornell was something else, I was truly heartbroken, and whilst that initial sting has subsided, it still really saddens me. I remember seeing G'nR a few weeks after he died, and they covered Black Hole Sun, I was in absolute bits  :( 

Like Cornell, Taylor's death has completely blindsided me, didn't see it coming at all. It's awful to think underneath that fun, out-going, larger than life exterior, he was struggling with things to the point he was self-medicating to that extent. 

HughFreakingDillon

JH6056 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

no, no, no. that kid is cute, and talented for sure, but I wish people would stop suggesting her. 

Wait, is anyone SERIOUSLY suggesting her?  I read any mention of her as a replacement as a sweet or funny thing, but definitely not serious.  Are some people really thinking that a 10 yr old go on the kind of touring that the Foos have done for ages???  

Even with family & a throng of tutors & caregivers on the road with her, that idea is INSANE.

I have seen it suggested seriously online. but that's just social media. 

HughFreakingDillon

facepollution said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

does anyone else have a delayed sadness to these deaths? with Chris Cornell, it was immediate and harsh (couldn't hold back my tears, even at work in front of co workers). I don't remember hearing about Layne, strangely. But with Kurt, it didn't seem to register. I think I remember even laughing at first at the news. Which, looking back, sounds callous but I think it was just a weird reaction to shocking news. Same with Taylor. My wife told me in the morning. Didn't really register or seem to bother me at first. Then slowly during the course of the day, I became sad. Came to a head at the show I was at that evening. 

These things tend to consume me. It's the ones that come as a shock that feel the worst. Whilst I felt immense sadness (and still do) when Layne, Scott Weiland and most recently Mark Lanegan died, given the lifestyles they led, I was entirely surprised. Cornell was something else, I was truly heartbroken, and whilst that initial sting has subsided, it still really saddens me. I remember seeing G'nR a few weeks after he died, and they covered Black Hole Sun, I was in absolute bits  :( 

Like Cornell, Taylor's death has completely blindsided me, didn't see it coming at all. It's awful to think underneath that fun, out-going, larger than life exterior, he was struggling with things to the point he was self-medicating to that extent. 

yeah, I think you hit it. Cornell and Taylor were such a shock because it seemed like they were in such a good place, it seemed unimaginable. Of course, this is from the outside looking in. I was sad about Weiland, but man, hearing that was like "surprised it wasn't sooner". Cornell I think was more of a shock because of the how. 

ddeschler

The deaths of Chris Cornell and Anthony Bourdain have hit me the hardest.  Chester Bennington's death was also tough.  A part of me hasn't really accepted that Bourdain is dead.  I put on one of the many episodes of his show saved in my DVR, and it seems like he's still here. 

OceansJenny

HughFreakingDillon said:

facepollution said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

does anyone else have a delayed sadness to these deaths? with Chris Cornell, it was immediate and harsh (couldn't hold back my tears, even at work in front of co workers). I don't remember hearing about Layne, strangely. But with Kurt, it didn't seem to register. I think I remember even laughing at first at the news. Which, looking back, sounds callous but I think it was just a weird reaction to shocking news. Same with Taylor. My wife told me in the morning. Didn't really register or seem to bother me at first. Then slowly during the course of the day, I became sad. Came to a head at the show I was at that evening. 

These things tend to consume me. It's the ones that come as a shock that feel the worst. Whilst I felt immense sadness (and still do) when Layne, Scott Weiland and most recently Mark Lanegan died, given the lifestyles they led, I was entirely surprised. Cornell was something else, I was truly heartbroken, and whilst that initial sting has subsided, it still really saddens me. I remember seeing G'nR a few weeks after he died, and they covered Black Hole Sun, I was in absolute bits  :( 

Like Cornell, Taylor's death has completely blindsided me, didn't see it coming at all. It's awful to think underneath that fun, out-going, larger than life exterior, he was struggling with things to the point he was self-medicating to that extent. 

yeah, I think you hit it. Cornell and Taylor were such a shock because it seemed like they were in such a good place, it seemed unimaginable. Of course, this is from the outside looking in. I was sad about Weiland, but man, hearing that was like "surprised it wasn't sooner". Cornell I think was more of a shock because of the how. 

Cornell always seemed troubled to me. Similar to Kurt.

RIP Taylor the beast. 

facepollution

HughFreakingDillon said:

facepollution said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

does anyone else have a delayed sadness to these deaths? with Chris Cornell, it was immediate and harsh (couldn't hold back my tears, even at work in front of co workers). I don't remember hearing about Layne, strangely. But with Kurt, it didn't seem to register. I think I remember even laughing at first at the news. Which, looking back, sounds callous but I think it was just a weird reaction to shocking news. Same with Taylor. My wife told me in the morning. Didn't really register or seem to bother me at first. Then slowly during the course of the day, I became sad. Came to a head at the show I was at that evening. 

These things tend to consume me. It's the ones that come as a shock that feel the worst. Whilst I felt immense sadness (and still do) when Layne, Scott Weiland and most recently Mark Lanegan died, given the lifestyles they led, I was entirely surprised. Cornell was something else, I was truly heartbroken, and whilst that initial sting has subsided, it still really saddens me. I remember seeing G'nR a few weeks after he died, and they covered Black Hole Sun, I was in absolute bits  :( 

Like Cornell, Taylor's death has completely blindsided me, didn't see it coming at all. It's awful to think underneath that fun, out-going, larger than life exterior, he was struggling with things to the point he was self-medicating to that extent. 

yeah, I think you hit it. Cornell and Taylor were such a shock because it seemed like they were in such a good place, it seemed unimaginable. Of course, this is from the outside looking in. I was sad about Weiland, but man, hearing that was like "surprised it wasn't sooner". Cornell I think was more of a shock because of the how. 

Yeah, total disbelief. Despite best efforts, I don't think as a society we really understand how vital it is for people to look after their mental health. Even things like physical exercise, which we largely consider to be good for us, can become unhealthy obsessions that allow us to shut out emotions that really need dealing with. If reports are to be believed about Taylor's enlarged heart, and the anxiety he expressed in that Rolling Stone interview in terms of maintaining his physicality as he got older, this may have been the case. Or maybe I'm just grasping for answers.

HughFreakingDillon

OceansJenny said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

facepollution said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

does anyone else have a delayed sadness to these deaths? with Chris Cornell, it was immediate and harsh (couldn't hold back my tears, even at work in front of co workers). I don't remember hearing about Layne, strangely. But with Kurt, it didn't seem to register. I think I remember even laughing at first at the news. Which, looking back, sounds callous but I think it was just a weird reaction to shocking news. Same with Taylor. My wife told me in the morning. Didn't really register or seem to bother me at first. Then slowly during the course of the day, I became sad. Came to a head at the show I was at that evening. 

These things tend to consume me. It's the ones that come as a shock that feel the worst. Whilst I felt immense sadness (and still do) when Layne, Scott Weiland and most recently Mark Lanegan died, given the lifestyles they led, I was entirely surprised. Cornell was something else, I was truly heartbroken, and whilst that initial sting has subsided, it still really saddens me. I remember seeing G'nR a few weeks after he died, and they covered Black Hole Sun, I was in absolute bits  :( 

Like Cornell, Taylor's death has completely blindsided me, didn't see it coming at all. It's awful to think underneath that fun, out-going, larger than life exterior, he was struggling with things to the point he was self-medicating to that extent. 

yeah, I think you hit it. Cornell and Taylor were such a shock because it seemed like they were in such a good place, it seemed unimaginable. Of course, this is from the outside looking in. I was sad about Weiland, but man, hearing that was like "surprised it wasn't sooner". Cornell I think was more of a shock because of the how. 

Cornell always seemed troubled to me. Similar to Kurt.

RIP Taylor the beast. 

really? he seemed genuinely happy to me. 

JeBurkhardt

It was a long time ago when I was a teenager, but when Cliff Burton died it hit me like a ton of bricks. That is probably the most affected I have been from a musician's death. 

HughFreakingDillon

JeBurkhardt said:

It was a long time ago when I was a teenager, but when Cliff Burton died it hit me like a ton of bricks. That is probably the most affected I have been from a musician's death. 

yeah, I had friends who had Metallica on their radar way earlier than I did, and it was the same. Newsted had massive shoes to fill. 

dankind

JeBurkhardt said:

It was a long time ago when I was a teenager, but when Cliff Burton died it hit me like a ton of bricks. That is probably the most affected I have been from a musician's death. 

Well, they lost their best musician. They may have replaced him, but he was irreplaceable. Their ho-hum catalogue after Master of Puppets is testament to that.

NEweather

ddeschler said:

The deaths of Chris Cornell and Anthony Bourdain have hit me the hardest.  Chester Bennington's death was also tough.  A part of me hasn't really accepted that Bourdain is dead.  I put on one of the many episodes of his show saved in my DVR, and it seems like he's still here. 

          ^^^!!! i read you. After the Las Vegas sniper of concert goers, then Chris Cornell, Chester Bennington - I became depressed.
 Have thought alot about Anthony Bourdain too.
 

mrussel1

dankind said:

JeBurkhardt said:

It was a long time ago when I was a teenager, but when Cliff Burton died it hit me like a ton of bricks. That is probably the most affected I have been from a musician's death. 

Well, they lost their best musician. They may have replaced him, but he was irreplaceable. Their ho-hum catalogue after Master of Puppets is testament to that.

Totally agree, although I wouldn't even call it ho hum.  Now Garage Days was great, but of course they didn't wrote those songs.  I did like Justice, but I thought the lyrics were great, while the music was just okay.  Hated Black and never went back to them. Cliff was awesome.  I was fortunate enough to be an 8th grader who had an older brother who took him to see Metallica open for Ozzy in '86.  

Zod

HughFreakingDillon said:

does anyone else have a delayed sadness to these deaths? with Chris Cornell, it was immediate and harsh (couldn't hold back my tears, even at work in front of co workers). I don't remember hearing about Layne, strangely. But with Kurt, it didn't seem to register. I think I remember even laughing at first at the news. Which, looking back, sounds callous but I think it was just a weird reaction to shocking news. Same with Taylor. My wife told me in the morning. Didn't really register or seem to bother me at first. Then slowly during the course of the day, I became sad. Came to a head at the show I was at that evening. 

I've thought about that before.  I think I was too young to understand it.  We we brought up on rock stars die at 27 kind of stuff. So it was shocking, but I don't think I understood the magnitude of what he was probably going through.  Plus there were a lot of people that said it was a cowards way out and stuff.   When Chris Cornell died, I was nothing but sad.   It bummed me out. It bummed me out that he was so depressed he could do something like that.  How sad must someone be to take their own life?  Which made me reflect more on what happened to Kurt Cobain, and think of how bad he must of been feeling to do what he did.

Plus Nirvana was big for 2.5 years.   They started to break out at end the end of '91 and they were done by April '94.  It was so short.   Artists you love that die now, we have decade long relationships with their music and concerts.

I was pretty bummed when Gord Downie got diagnosed with Brain Cancer, but less so when he passed.   I guess because it wasn't sudden, you had time to reflect and absorb before he passed.  

I was pretty bummed when Tom Petty died.   Especially when you found out he played the tour with a fractured hip to tough it out, and was using drugs to mask the pain, which led to his passing.. sigh..  Take a tour off and get healthy when you need to.

Those are my big losses over the last number of years.  Chris Cornell, Gord Downie, Tom Petty, and now Taylor Hawkins

The even crazier epiphany I had the last few years, is I didn't understand when people said music saved their lives.  Then one day I realize music turns my mood on a dime.  If I'm ever depressed or feeling sad, all I need to do is put on music, and my mood will instantly change.  It can be sad music, happy music, it doesn't seem to matter.   I didn't realize how lucky it makes me that music can do that for me.

HughFreakingDillon

i'm the same, dude. if I'm in a real shit mood, I put on Foo or QOTSA. instant better mood (if it's just a mood and not depression). Headstones also have that affect on me, but more in a rage kinda way, lol. 

goldrush

Zod said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

does anyone else have a delayed sadness to these deaths? with Chris Cornell, it was immediate and harsh (couldn't hold back my tears, even at work in front of co workers). I don't remember hearing about Layne, strangely. But with Kurt, it didn't seem to register. I think I remember even laughing at first at the news. Which, looking back, sounds callous but I think it was just a weird reaction to shocking news. Same with Taylor. My wife told me in the morning. Didn't really register or seem to bother me at first. Then slowly during the course of the day, I became sad. Came to a head at the show I was at that evening. 

I've thought about that before.  I think I was too young to understand it.  We we brought up on rock stars die at 27 kind of stuff. So it was shocking, but I don't think I understood the magnitude of what he was probably going through.  Plus there were a lot of people that said it was a cowards way out and stuff.   When Chris Cornell died, I was nothing but sad.   It bummed me out. It bummed me out that he was so depressed he could do something like that.  How sad must someone be to take their own life?  Which made me reflect more on what happened to Kurt Cobain, and think of how bad he must of been feeling to do what he did.

Plus Nirvana was big for 2.5 years.   They started to break out at end the end of '91 and they were done by April '94.  It was so short.   Artists you love that die now, we have decade long relationships with their music and concerts.

I was pretty bummed when Gord Downie got diagnosed with Brain Cancer, but less so when he passed.   I guess because it wasn't sudden, you had time to reflect and absorb before he passed.  

I was pretty bummed when Tom Petty died.   Especially when you found out he played the tour with a fractured hip to tough it out, and was using drugs to mask the pain, which led to his passing.. sigh..  Take a tour off and get healthy when you need to.

Those are my big losses over the last number of years.  Chris Cornell, Gord Downie, Tom Petty, and now Taylor Hawkins

The even crazier epiphany I had the last few years, is I didn't understand when people said music saved their lives.  Then one day I realize music turns my mood on a dime.  If I'm ever depressed or feeling sad, all I need to do is put on music, and my mood will instantly change.  It can be sad music, happy music, it doesn't seem to matter.   I didn't realize how lucky it makes me that music can do that for me.

The big ones for me in recent years have been Mark Lanegan, Chris Cornell and Shawn Smith. It will take me a long time to get over Lanegan, and Cornell still seems shocking to me.

Taylor is definitely a big one too, although it feels different to the others. Maybe because the others I have mentioned are singers and lyricists, and I have connected with their words over the years. I'll miss the excitement of watching Taylor and the energy he would bring, you couldn't take your eyes off him. He was a real rock star.

I remember hearing about Kurt Cobain on the news. I was 17 and my first thought was that we had tickets to see Nirvana on their rescheduled UK tour (it had been postponed after the Rome OD). I think it was the first time that a singer that I was into had died, but it wasn't really a shock. Maybe it just seemed inevitable for him. I remember feeling much worse when Shannon Hoon died the following year because that just seemed so sad. I don't remember how or when I found out about Elliott Smith or Layne.