Nikki Sixx: Pearl Jam is "one of the most boring bands in history"

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  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,774
    Cocaines a hell of drug
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,785
    I think Ed called out girls, girls, girls because at that point MC (and a lot of MTV) was about the girls and flash, and not about the music. I can appreciate what MC did. The first time I saw live wire I was like what the fuck is that. Not necessarily my cup of tea, but I appreciated that they were taking it to the next level. I like some of their stuff up to shout at the devil.  And hey if you are into the glam, the spinning drum kits, Mick Mars metal guitar sound, flame pots and all that stuff, Id bet MC was very entertaining for you. I saw the Theater of Pain tour, and it was entertaining but not my preference musically (free tickets).
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,354
    Go Animal said:
    Nikki Sixx wrote 3, maybe 4 great songs, Vince Neil can't (and could never) sing, Tommy Lee sure can't either (decent piano player, tho), and I have nothing bad to say about Mick Mars, or any of the other Crue-verse musicians.
    That being said:
    Poison > Crue
    Extreme > Crue
    Kick Axe > Crue
    Mr. Big > Crue
    L.A. Guns > Crue
    Quiet Riot > Crue
    David Lee Roth > Crue
    Enuff Znuff > Crue
    early (and later) Pantera > Crue

    Not gonna compare Pearl Jam to Motley Crue. That'd be like comparing a ribeye steak to McDonalds. You compare McDonalds to Wendy's, Burger King, and White Castle ;)
    Opinions are like assholes, we all have one.

    None of those listed are better, but I'm guessing you know that and were looking for a reply

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    Agreed,  they're all equally terrible. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,764
    mcgruff10 said:


    I'm  sorry what,


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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,660
    CROJAM95 said:
    Cocaines a hell of drug
    You think Ed was on coke when he did the interview?

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  • vedpunkvedpunk Posts: 892
    Eddie is getting a TON of publicity because of this.  I mean he’s trending.  Was it all by design? With his new album and tour? Makes ya think.
  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,774
    Poncier said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    Cocaines a hell of drug
    You think Ed was on coke when he did the interview?

    Maybe

    but more probable the reason Nikki thinks his band wasn’t boring 




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    Eddie and the Earthlings new Motley Crue 'diss track' coming soon. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,764
    demetrios said:
    Pics Where Vince Looks Hot
    Good stalkerish thread idea?
    Damn! 
    There’s 50lbs of meat stuck in a colon.
    That baby’s overdue.
    that video is painful....

    he couldnt finish the show in columbus at hollywood casino this January
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,660
    vedpunk said:
    Eddie is getting a TON of publicity because of this.  I mean he’s trending.  Was it all by design? With his new album and tour? Makes ya think.
    The old "there's no such thing as bad publicity" angle.
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  • Poncier said:
    demetrios said:
    Isn't that more than he has ever communicated with the Tenclub when there has been issues?

    I understand there are no famous people to @ on here, but my advice would be to use the energy and the 140 x2 characters on that instead.
    Not to mention bad form from Tim since Eddie started this whole thing and Sixx was just defending his band (as one would expect anybody to do)
    Everyone on here railing against Motley and Sixx should realize their guy is the one who threw the first and totally unnecessary sucker punch. He could have easily made his point without singling out any particular band. Between ticket prices, Platinum tickets and now this, 2022 is off to a shameful start for Vedder. 
    Actually Sixx should have ignored it. Eddie was talking about 30 years ago. Big fucking deal.
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  • I think the context of the interview was how certain bands (especially hair metal bands like Motley Crue) objectified women in their lyrics and music videos.  Eddie has 2 daughters and has always been vocal for women's rights.  I think even fans of their music can understand that argument.  
    I feel like this important point is getting lost in all this.
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  • I think the context of the interview was how certain bands (especially hair metal bands like Motley Crue) objectified women in their lyrics and music videos.  Eddie has 2 daughters and has always been vocal for women's rights.  I think even fans of their music can understand that argument.  
    I feel like this important point is getting lost in all this.
    I think what Eddie said is pretty clear. I don't think any point is getting lost.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • vedpunk said:
    Eddie is getting a TON of publicity because of this.  I mean he’s trending.  Was it all by design? With his new album and tour? Makes ya think.
    Yes. The marketing strategy for Eddies new album must have been centered around saying something negative about a 80s glam band. A strategy as old as time.

    (I think capitalizing "TON" is to overstate the publicity he gets for this.)
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • vedpunkvedpunk Posts: 892
    vedpunk said:
    Eddie is getting a TON of publicity because of this.  I mean he’s trending.  Was it all by design? With his new album and tour? Makes ya think.
    Yes. The marketing strategy for Eddies new album must have been centered around saying something negative about a 80s glam band. A strategy as old as time.

    (I think capitalizing "TON" is to overstate the publicity he gets for this.)
    TMZ

    https://amp.tmz.com/2022/02/05/motley-crue-nikki-sixx-calls-pearl-jam-boring-eddie-vedder-diss/

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  • The best part is reading PJ fans pretending like their favorite band is some high art/innovator, or something.  
    A rock band.  
    Being critical of another rock band.

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,354
    The best part is reading PJ fans pretending like their favorite band is some high art/innovator, or something.  
    A rock band.  
    Being critical of another rock band.

    I don't think PJ is high art.  I do think Motley Crue and plenty of the other hair bands were sexist and degrading to women.  I don't have a problem with anyone calling it out.  I think it should be called out.  They were dirt bags.  PJ wasn't perfect, but they weren't dirt balls.  
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,764
    mrussel1 said:
    The best part is reading PJ fans pretending like their favorite band is some high art/innovator, or something.  
    A rock band.  
    Being critical of another rock band.

    I don't think PJ is high art.  I do think Motley Crue and plenty of the other hair bands were sexist and degrading to women.  I don't have a problem with anyone calling it out.  I think it should be called out.  They were dirt bags.  PJ wasn't perfect, but they weren't dirt balls.  

    right no junkies or killers in pj
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  • mrussel1 said:
    The best part is reading PJ fans pretending like their favorite band is some high art/innovator, or something.  
    A rock band.  
    Being critical of another rock band.

    I don't think PJ is high art.  I do think Motley Crue and plenty of the other hair bands were sexist and degrading to women.  I don't have a problem with anyone calling it out.  I think it should be called out.  They were dirt bags.  PJ wasn't perfect, but they weren't dirt balls.  
    OK.  Do you say the same about other bands who did the same thing?
    (Or so the same thing, still?)

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  • mrussel1 said:
    Go Animal said:
    Nikki Sixx wrote 3, maybe 4 great songs, Vince Neil can't (and could never) sing, Tommy Lee sure can't either (decent piano player, tho), and I have nothing bad to say about Mick Mars, or any of the other Crue-verse musicians.
    That being said:
    Poison > Crue
    Extreme > Crue
    Kick Axe > Crue
    Mr. Big > Crue
    L.A. Guns > Crue
    Quiet Riot > Crue
    David Lee Roth > Crue
    Enuff Znuff > Crue
    early (and later) Pantera > Crue

    Not gonna compare Pearl Jam to Motley Crue. That'd be like comparing a ribeye steak to McDonalds. You compare McDonalds to Wendy's, Burger King, and White Castle ;)
    Opinions are like assholes, we all have one.

    None of those listed are better, but I'm guessing you know that and were looking for a reply

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    Agreed,  they're all equally terrible. 
    No mention of sexism here, just a joke at your preference, musically.
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  • mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    The best part is reading PJ fans pretending like their favorite band is some high art/innovator, or something.  
    A rock band.  
    Being critical of another rock band.

    I don't think PJ is high art.  I do think Motley Crue and plenty of the other hair bands were sexist and degrading to women.  I don't have a problem with anyone calling it out.  I think it should be called out.  They were dirt bags.  PJ wasn't perfect, but they weren't dirt balls.  

    right no junkies or killers in pj
    Sarcastic?
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  • cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,680
    Any other profession and this would look like two grandpas insulting eachother :lol:
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,354
    mrussel1 said:
    The best part is reading PJ fans pretending like their favorite band is some high art/innovator, or something.  
    A rock band.  
    Being critical of another rock band.

    I don't think PJ is high art.  I do think Motley Crue and plenty of the other hair bands were sexist and degrading to women.  I don't have a problem with anyone calling it out.  I think it should be called out.  They were dirt bags.  PJ wasn't perfect, but they weren't dirt balls.  
    OK.  Do you say the same about other bands who did the same thing?
    (Or so the same thing, still?)

    I'd like to think so.  80s bands in particular built their whole persona around misogyny. While bands like the Stones have gone too far on occasion (Stray Cat Blues as an example), it didn't feel like their raison d'etre.
  • mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    The best part is reading PJ fans pretending like their favorite band is some high art/innovator, or something.  
    A rock band.  
    Being critical of another rock band.

    I don't think PJ is high art.  I do think Motley Crue and plenty of the other hair bands were sexist and degrading to women.  I don't have a problem with anyone calling it out.  I think it should be called out.  They were dirt bags.  PJ wasn't perfect, but they weren't dirt balls.  
    OK.  Do you say the same about other bands who did the same thing?
    (Or so the same thing, still?)

    I'd like to think so.  80s bands in particular built their whole persona around misogyny. While bands like the Stones have gone too far on occasion (Stray Cat Blues as an example), it didn't feel like their raison d'etre.
    OK.  
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,354
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    The best part is reading PJ fans pretending like their favorite band is some high art/innovator, or something.  
    A rock band.  
    Being critical of another rock band.

    I don't think PJ is high art.  I do think Motley Crue and plenty of the other hair bands were sexist and degrading to women.  I don't have a problem with anyone calling it out.  I think it should be called out.  They were dirt bags.  PJ wasn't perfect, but they weren't dirt balls.  

    right no junkies or killers in pj
    I don't criticize the junkies as much.  That's a personal issue and demon.  I'd have to eliminate my whole jazz collection. 
  • Any other profession and this would look like two grandpas insulting eachother :lol:
    It still looks that way.  :lol:
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  • Just want to add to the discourse that if you want those Dirty Frank-esque nasty riffs and that funky beat and lyrics that are not like salad --

    -- then Vince Neil away from Mötley Crüe is something not to be missed:

    https://youtu.be/-qBg1cWpaEE


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  • JBob87JBob87 Posts: 457
    If PJ is not "high art", Motley Crue music is a finger painting done by a Golden Retriever.

    Generic riffs, dumb superficial songwriting for mouth breathers, and the same tired personalities that went stale 35 years ago.
  • JBob87 said:
    If PJ is not "high art", Motley Crue music is a finger painting done by a Golden Retriever.

    Generic riffs, dumb superficial songwriting for mouth breathers, and the same tired personalities that went stale 35 years ago.
    And here it is.
    Thanks for proving my point.
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