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  • JT167846
    JT167846 Posts: 996
    Russia just invaded. Here we go.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    edited February 2022
    Some of those earlier tweets were spot on.


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  • mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    The only good thing I see in any of this concerning China is that they’re up to their balls in omicron from the virus they themselves created right now, so the timing isn’t ideal for them to invade Taiwan.  I don’t think that means they won’t, but maybe it hampers their plans a bit?
    Yikes for the second time in 24h
    Yikes, sorry I agree with the majority of Americans. You do know that most Americans believe that it leaked from a lab right? Count me in with the rest of them. 


    But for thread integrity, i just watched the tucker thing you guys are talking about, and he’s not siding with Putin, he’s just anti democrat/Biden the whole time.

     “If you’ve been watching the news, you know that Putin is having a border dispute with a nation called Ukraine. Now, the main thing to know about Ukraine for our purposes is that its leaders once sent millions of dollars to Biden’s family. Not surprisingly, Ukraine is now one of Biden’s favorite countries. Biden has pledged to defend Ukraine’s borders even as he opens our borders to the world. That’s how it works. Invading America is called equity. Invading Ukraine is a war crime.”

    He’s saying the narrative that we need to protect Ukraine because Ukraine is a democracy isnt true, as the Ukrainian president has a habit of arresting his political opponents and shutting down news outlets that are critical of him. By all accounts, Ukraine is a tyrannical state, but because Biden is linked with them, the narrative is that they need protection.


    IMO, he’s saying it might be good for Biden but bad for Americans, and while Biden has admitted this fact, we’re being told that denying Putin Ukraine on moral grounds is the greater victory:

     Energy prices in the United States are about to go way up, and that means that everything you buy will become much more expensive, from the food you eat to the car you drive to the tickets you need to take your family on vacation this summer, assuming you can still afford a vacation by then. You’re about to become measurably poorer. That’s not a guess. Joe Biden has admitted this. 

    On the other hand, you’re going to win an important moral victory against dastardly old Vladimir Putin, who is much, much worse than Justin Trudeau. Just so you know. So you can feel good about that because…because…let’s see, come to think of it, why would you feel good about that? It seems like a pretty terrible deal for you and for the United States. Hunter Biden gets a million dollars a year from Ukraine, but you can no longer afford to go out to dinner. That’s not a bargain.”





    What pizza pie you coming up with to celebrate Russian aggression again? 
    C'mon guys.. Rollmodels is playing fair.  Let's keep the debate going. 
    Ok ok so maybe an antipasto 🤣🤣 ok I’ll bow out of the thread that somehow finds Americans cheering for a killer dictatorship!
    Who is cheering for a killer dictatorship?
    Anyone who voted for Trump.
    Not me, more like Praying for the Ukrainian people and hoping Biden is up for the task of leading America and pretty much the whole free world through this mess.  


  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,514

     
    Putin announces Ukraine military operation, explosions heard
    By VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV, DASHA LITVINOVA, YURAS KARMANAU and JIM HEINTZ
    19 mins ago

    MOSCOW (AP) — Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday announced a military operation in Ukraine and warned other countries that any attempt to interfere with the Russian action would lead to “consequences you have never seen.”

    He said the attack was needed to protect civilians in eastern Ukraine — a claim the U.S. had predicted he would falsely make to justify an invasion.

    In a televised address, Putin accused the U.S. and its allies of ignoring Russia’s demand to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO and offer Moscow security guarantees. He said Russia doesn't intend to occupy Ukraine but will move to “demilitarize” it and bring those who committed crimes to justice.

    As Putin spoke before dawn, big explosions were heard in Kyiv, Kharkiv, Odessa and other cities across Ukraine.

    U.S. President Joe Biden in a written statement condemned the “unprovoked and unjustified attack” on Ukraine and he promised that the U.S. and its allies “will hold Russia accountable.” Biden said he planned to speak to Americans on Thursday after a meeting of the Group of Seven leaders. More sanctions against Russia were expected to be announced Thursday.


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  • Sounding more and more like Putin on the ritz is slipping, maybe a little too much self isolation, perhaps unstable. Rambling one hour excuse to invade to eradicate the Nazis ruling Ukraine and the justification not aligning with reality. Who does that remind you of? Savvy.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    edited February 2022
    How is it that certain unhinged lunatics like P***n and T***P (I can't even say their names anymore) can get away with wrecking so much havoc on this world?  Everybody on this planet who gets it about how screwed up those two whatevers (I won't call them "animals", no way would I slight the animal kingdom that way) needs to stand up and say ENOUGH!
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  • 23scidoo
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,482
    edited February 2022
    brianlux said:
    How is it that certain unhinged lunatics like P***n and T***P (I can't even say their names anymore) can get away with wrecking so much havoc on this world?  Everybody on this planet who gets it about how screwed up those two whatevers (I won't call them "animals", no way would I slight the animal kingdom that way) needs to stand up and say ENOUGH!
    People didn't stand up and say Engough! in 2003 when the US did the same. And seems to be the same now. Bullying superpowers doing what the fuck they want unchecked when their leaders get a fix idea. 

    Russia needs to be completely economically shut out. Completely. Close every McDonalds, Apple stores and IKEA's. Do not support countries that are not full on peace-loving democracies.

    Did Putin invade now and not during Trump because of covid - or why wait?
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  • "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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  • mickeyrat
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  • mickeyrat
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    Ukraine attack leaves Baltics wondering: Are we next?
    By LIUDAS DAPKUS and KARL RITTER
    Today

    VILNIUS, Lithuania (AP) — Viewed from Paris, London and Washington, the events unfolding in Ukraine may seem like a new Cold War taking shape in Europe.

    From the Baltic countries, it looks much worse.

    To Estonians, Latvians and Lithuanians — particularly those old enough to have lived under Soviet control — Russia’s belligerence toward Ukraine has some worried that they could be the next target. The tensions have brought back memories of mass deportations and oppression.

    “My grandparents were sent away to Siberia. My father was persecuted by the KGB. Now I live in a free democratic country, but it seems that nothing can be taken for granted,” said Jaunius Kazlauskas, a 50-year-old teacher in Vilnius, Lithuania’s capital.

    All three Baltic countries were seized and annexed by Stalin during World War II before gaining independence again with the breakup of the Soviet Union in 1991. They joined NATO in 2004, putting themselves under the military protection of the U.S. and its Western allies. Ukraine is not part of NATO.

    The Baltic countries and Poland, also a NATO member, have been among the loudest advocates for powerful sanctions against Moscow and NATO reinforcements on the alliance’s eastern flank. Baltic government leaders in recent weeks have shuttled to European capitals, warning that the West must make Russian President Vladimir Putin pay for attacking Ukraine, or else his tanks will keep rolling toward other parts of the former Soviet empire.


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  • Annafalk
    Annafalk Sweden Posts: 4,004
    This is what happens when a former KGB agent dictator rules a country. How will this end? 
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,667
    Trumpolinni refused military aid to Ukraine to please and make it easier for his man crush to invade! 
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