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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    Gern Blansten said:
    The new trend is to complain every time tRump is mentioned. As if he isn't in the news every day.
    The problem occurs when trump's awful tenure as president is used to justify anything and everything biden or any other democrat does. I know it's been frustrating trying to be held to a better standard, and no one seems to give a shit, but still....both trump being awful and biden not being the greatest can exist independently of each other. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,570
    Hitler committed suicide in a bunker as Berlin was falling to the Russians. POOTWH is still pretending he was the rightfully elected POTUS, is the de facto leader and king and queen maker of the repub party and still has tens of millions of ‘Muricans believing in him, think the election was stolen and will vote for him again. So yea, the comparisons and criticisms are valid. Does Merkel have to deal with Hitler flying around Germany and hosting nazi salute rallies every couple of weeks?
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    edited January 2022
    "No seriously, hot sauce. I’ve been eating a lot of hot sauce. Raw peppers and hot sauce,” she said. “Because I think it keeps my immune system strong. I think hot sauce is good for you, in moderation.”

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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 8,986
    Thought this would have been mentioned, but I didn’t see it:

    “Nobody cares about what’s happening the Uyghurs, okay,” Chamath Palihapitiya, an early executive at Facebook and current co-owner of the Golden State Warriors said during an episode of the “All-In” podcast. “You bring it up because you really care, and I think that’s nice that you care,” Palihapitiya told host Jason Calacanis, “the rest of us don’t care.”
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,644
    cincybearcat said:
    "It's one thing if it's a minor incursion and we end up having to fight about what to do and not do," Biden told reporters

    so full on war if its a cyberattack on ukraine?
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,822
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
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    Gern Blansten said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Gern Blansten said:
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    static111 said:
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    brianlux said:
    Let's start with this doozy:
    “The concern is misplaced, because if you look at the statistics, African American voters are voting in just as high a percentage as Americans,” McConnell said.
    -Mitch McConnell
    This should be fun!


    "Well I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black." Joe Biden
    First quote I thought of but i didn’t feel
    like hearing the what about trump crowd. 
    I posted it fully expecting to be flamed.  It is not uncommon for old white politicians to say stupid racial things. to give equal air time to the other guy
    “We have people coming into the country or trying to come in — and we’re stopping a lot of them — but we’re taking people out of the country. You wouldn’t believe how bad these people are. These aren’t people. These are animals.” Donald Trump

    I don't see a problem with that statement at all.  He's right...any blacks that vote for tRump are voting against their own interests.  Unless they are racist millionaires.
    an old white guy telling a group of black people, "they ain't black" because they like another white guy more than him isn't problematic in your eyes? seriously?

    I don't even know where to begin with that. 
    I really don't see a problem.  He's right. I've been saying for years that any African-Americans that vote GOP are voting against their own self interests.

    The same applies to white working class/blue collar/union workers. 

    If he substituted "union members" for "black" the same would apply.
    yeah, but he didn't say "voting against your own interests". he said "you aren't black". just imagine someone on the other side of the aisle saying that...especially Trump... 

    I'd like to see the reaction a white guy got if he tried saying that face to face to an African American. I don't think "I meant your own interests" would help you back out of it. 
    well....he said it directly to an african american radio host so I guess we could look back at what the host's reaction was?
    Biden said "If you have a problem figuring out if you're for me or Trump, you ain't black."

    "It ain't about Trump" responded the host, Charlemagne.

    Charlemagne was challenging Biden on his own policies and asking how his policies would help black people. And typically, as we see a lot on this board in regards to Biden, Biden's response was basically "I'm not Trump."
    Yeah and again...a legit response.

    Just look at tRump's recent rally. There are always a few African Americans behind him with "Blacks for tRump" shirts on.

    You think they aren't paid? 
    lol, of course. 
    Yes Captain thread police we were discussing Biden/Trump
    Oh lord, "thread police." No I'm not talking the thread. I'm talking about always going back to Trump. I wonder if every president for the rest of my life will get this treatment...where any sort of critique or comment about him/her will be met with "But what about Trump!?!"
    The new bar is as long as trump did something worse, you can’t complain. Applies to all politicians and thread topics.
    Even though it's the epitome of "whataboutism," I understand why Trump haters and/or Biden lovers do this. He was the previous president, and he was awful. Hopefully it's just a Biden thing since he's the immediate successor, and it doesn't last through multiple administrations. Like, do German people criticize Angela Merkel? Or do they throw up their hands and say "Hey, we once had a WAY worse chancellor."
    Part of it that there really aren't "Biden lovers." He's just the mediocre stopgap between Trump and, hopefully, sanity. He pretty much won on not being Trump, so there's a certain logic to responses about him pointing out that, hey, at least he's not that bad.

    To me there's nuance. His "you ain't black" statement is ridiculous and has absolutely nothing to do with Trump. It's silly in a vacuum. And at the time I thought it was potentially harmful in terms of bringing black voters out to vote for him. It was politically stupid and it was racist. On the other hand, when a journalist finds it refreshing not to be ridiculed and whined at by a big man-baby, I think that's appropriate...to point out the normalcy. And when someone on here points out how Joe would fail a professionalism purity test, then yeah, it makes total sense to say "the guy's point was that everything with Trump's media appearances was toxic and broken." Part of the Story around Biden is that he's brining a certain amount of normalcy back...it's a low bar, but it's still happening.

    And on top of all that, most presidents are essentially irrelevant the day they leave office. Trump remains the most important, influential person in the country. He's not going away until he dies. The other former presidents are essentially gone.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    edited January 2022
    mace1229 said:
    Thought this would have been mentioned, but I didn’t see it:

    “Nobody cares about what’s happening the Uyghurs, okay,” Chamath Palihapitiya, an early executive at Facebook and current co-owner of the Golden State Warriors said during an episode of the “All-In” podcast. “You bring it up because you really care, and I think that’s nice that you care,” Palihapitiya told host Jason Calacanis, “the rest of us don’t care.”
    Of course people don’t care.  If the world cared they would not be doing business with China or going to the Olympics in China…
    Post edited by Meltdown99 on
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    “All the records in possession of the federal government have already been turned over to the National Centre for Truth and Reconciliation in Winnipeg,”  Justin Trudeau October 2021

    This week - 875,000 pages of documents regarding the government-funded and church-ran residential schools used to assimilate indigenous youth in Canada was finally provided to the NCTR. 
    Is it any wonder no one trusts politicians anymore? 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,661
    I thought McConnell's statement would get more traction from this crowd.  I still can't believe he actually said that.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,570
    brianlux said:
    I thought McConnell's statement would get more traction from this crowd.  I still can't believe he actually said that.
    They always say the quiet part out loud so I’m not surprised. POOTWH made the dog whistles openly more acceptable. It’s been glaringly more obvious since 2008 that it’s “normal.” More on this later as time and paywalls allow.
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  • HobbesHobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,381
    brianlux said:
    I thought McConnell's statement would get more traction from this crowd.  I still can't believe he actually said that.
    You can't? A racist POS makes a racist comment. Believable.
  • dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,827
    brianlux said:
    I thought McConnell's statement would get more traction from this crowd.  I still can't believe he actually said that.
    It's the most believable of them all.

    After all, he's the same creep who said, "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,943
    Hobbes said:
    brianlux said:
    I thought McConnell's statement would get more traction from this crowd.  I still can't believe he actually said that.
    You can't? A racist POS makes a racist comment. Believable.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,661
    Oh trust me, I know what kind of person McConnell is.  And, seriously, racist or not, it boggles my mind that McConnell would say something that stupid.  Whether that is exactly what he meant to say or not isn't what surprises me the most.  I doubt those are the exact words he would use if he had it to say over again.  So what surprises me is that someone that stupid could rise to that level of power. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    brianlux said:
    I thought McConnell's statement would get more traction from this crowd.  I still can't believe he actually said that.
    honestly I didn't see this one as a big deal. I think he just missed saying "other" or "fellow" before "Americans". 
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  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    "I think what you're going to see is that Russia will be held accountable if it invades. And it depends on what it does. It's one thing if it's a minor incursion and then we end up having a fight about what to do and not do." - President Biden
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,661
    One problem I'm seeing with this thread is like of citation. 
    I'm beginning to think starting this thread was a mistake.
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  • HobbesHobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,381
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    brianlux said:
    I thought McConnell's statement would get more traction from this crowd.  I still can't believe he actually said that.
    honestly I didn't see this one as a big deal. I think he just missed saying "other" or "fellow" before "Americans". 
    Not a big deal? Wow! Can't believe you just said that.
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 8,986
    edited January 2022
    brianlux said:
    I thought McConnell's statement would get more traction from this crowd.  I still can't believe he actually said that.
    I didn’t think it was a big deal. Yeah you can pick at it grammatically and say he didn’t include African Americans as Americans. But he clearly meant African Americans vote in the same percentage as America on average. Which, if true, is a good point about all the fuss over voter laws.
    It makes for a good haha moment to poke fun at, look at what he said. But nothing worth fussing over.
  • HobbesHobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,381
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    I thought McConnell's statement would get more traction from this crowd.  I still can't believe he actually said that.
    I didn’t think it was a big deal. Yeah you can pick at it grammatically and say he didn’t include African Americans as Americans. But he clearly meant African Americans vote in the same percentage as America on average. Which, if true, is a good point about all the fuss over voter laws.
    Again, not a big deal? Wow!
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,943
    Hobbes said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    brianlux said:
    I thought McConnell's statement would get more traction from this crowd.  I still can't believe he actually said that.
    honestly I didn't see this one as a big deal. I think he just missed saying "other" or "fellow" before "Americans". 
    Not a big deal? Wow! Can't believe you just said that.
    deja vu
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    'If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black' - President Biden


  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    Hobbes said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    brianlux said:
    I thought McConnell's statement would get more traction from this crowd.  I still can't believe he actually said that.
    honestly I didn't see this one as a big deal. I think he just missed saying "other" or "fellow" before "Americans". 
    Not a big deal? Wow! Can't believe you just said that.
    missing the word "other" is not in the same universe as saying "you ain't black". again, I could be wrong. Maybe he said it intentionally, but I was responding to Brian's surprise by saying that's how I took it. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,082
    mickeyrat said:
    cincybearcat said:
    "It's one thing if it's a minor incursion and we end up having to fight about what to do and not do," Biden told reporters

    so full on war if its a cyberattack on ukraine?
    Ummmm yeah that's clearly what I am saying by posting this dumb quote by our current president.  

    It's ok Putin...just make it a minor incursion....

    It was a really dumb thing to say at this point....which I thought was the purpose of this thread?
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,082
    Hobbes said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    brianlux said:
    I thought McConnell's statement would get more traction from this crowd.  I still can't believe he actually said that.
    honestly I didn't see this one as a big deal. I think he just missed saying "other" or "fellow" before "Americans". 
    Not a big deal? Wow! Can't believe you just said that.
    I agree with Hugh.  While it sounds really bad, I do not think it was some slip...just came out different then it should have.  WHich tends to happen when you you talk on camera a lot.  

    I completely understand it being in this thread cause it is a head scratching comment for sure...
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    cincybearcat said:
    Hobbes said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    brianlux said:
    I thought McConnell's statement would get more traction from this crowd.  I still can't believe he actually said that.
    honestly I didn't see this one as a big deal. I think he just missed saying "other" or "fellow" before "Americans". 
    Not a big deal? Wow! Can't believe you just said that.
    I agree with Hugh.  While it sounds really bad, I do not think it was some slip...just came out different then it should have.  WHich tends to happen when you you talk on camera a lot.  

    I completely understand it being in this thread cause it is a head scratching comment for sure...
    he's mocking me because of my reaction to Gern's "not a big deal" about biden saying that "you ain't black" quote. he's trying to portray that I'm hypocritical in some way. I see them as completely different statements, but whatever. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

    HFD




  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,943
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Hobbes said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    brianlux said:
    I thought McConnell's statement would get more traction from this crowd.  I still can't believe he actually said that.
    honestly I didn't see this one as a big deal. I think he just missed saying "other" or "fellow" before "Americans". 
    Not a big deal? Wow! Can't believe you just said that.
    I agree with Hugh.  While it sounds really bad, I do not think it was some slip...just came out different then it should have.  WHich tends to happen when you you talk on camera a lot.  

    I completely understand it being in this thread cause it is a head scratching comment for sure...
    he's mocking me because of my reaction to Gern's "not a big deal" about biden saying that "you ain't black" quote. he's trying to portray that I'm hypocritical in some way. I see them as completely different statements, but whatever. 
    we agree on McConnell's statement...not sure why we don't on Biden's
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  • HobbesHobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,381
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Hobbes said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    brianlux said:
    I thought McConnell's statement would get more traction from this crowd.  I still can't believe he actually said that.
    honestly I didn't see this one as a big deal. I think he just missed saying "other" or "fellow" before "Americans". 
    Not a big deal? Wow! Can't believe you just said that.
    I agree with Hugh.  While it sounds really bad, I do not think it was some slip...just came out different then it should have.  WHich tends to happen when you you talk on camera a lot.  

    I completely understand it being in this thread cause it is a head scratching comment for sure...
    he's mocking me because of my reaction to Gern's "not a big deal" about biden saying that "you ain't black" quote. he's trying to portray that I'm hypocritical in some way. I see them as completely different statements, but whatever. 
    I'm not mocking you. It appears you and others are minimizing an overtly racist comment from McConnell. Has nothing to do with Biden's remark.
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