Pearl Jam's new album ”Dark Matter” ! Single out!

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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,635
    igotid88 said:
    igotid88 said:

     Not like Taylor Swift who's main mission is to get Grammys.
    Doubt that is her main mission.
    Well one of her main missions. 
    Maybe she just writes songs and everything else that comes along with it is gravy?
    It's in her documentary when she didn't win or wasn't nominated it got to her.






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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,635
    edited November 2023
    BF25394 said:
    igotid88 said:
    BF25394 said:
    BF25394 said:
    strilo said:
    igotid88 said:
    RiotAct10 said:
    I believe the Stones new album was released after the cut-off date, so it won't be eligible until next year, but the single was released before the cut-off date, so it was eligible. If Pearl Jam's album is any good (which I expect it to be, just saying) then next year I could see Watt being nominated for Producer of the Year with the Stones record and PJs records both counting for next year, along with whatever else is put out with his production (Paul McCartney perhaps?)
    Pearl Jam won't get nominated unfortunately
    I agree with Jeff and Ed. Grammys are fucking stupid and meaningless.
    If you think Ed believes that today, you're kidding yourself.
    go on.
    Nowadays, Ed seems to be very comfortable with the Hollywood-entertainment-industrial complex of which the Grammys are a part.
    You can be both comfortable and not care if you win or not. I don't see them actively campaigning. Not like Taylor Swift who's main mission is to get Grammys.
    Not caring whether you win a Grammy, and not campaigning for one, are not the same thing as believing (or saying publicly) that a Grammy is meaningless.

    Taylor Swift is a prolific and phenomenally talented artist whose main mission is clearly writing and performing songs. She doesn't write those songs to win Grammys; they give her Grammys because the songs are so good.
    Not saying she isn't but that doesn't necessarily mean it's "Grammy worthy". PJ has written many great songs/albums that weren't nominated. Gigaton the most recent example. Or if you want someone more contemporary The Weeknd. Look at The Foo Fighters, they have the same amount of wins as PJ has nominations. 15.
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  • Haijay
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    igotid88 said:
    BF25394 said:
    igotid88 said:
    BF25394 said:
    BF25394 said:
    strilo said:
    igotid88 said:
    RiotAct10 said:
    I believe the Stones new album was released after the cut-off date, so it won't be eligible until next year, but the single was released before the cut-off date, so it was eligible. If Pearl Jam's album is any good (which I expect it to be, just saying) then next year I could see Watt being nominated for Producer of the Year with the Stones record and PJs records both counting for next year, along with whatever else is put out with his production (Paul McCartney perhaps?)
    Pearl Jam won't get nominated unfortunately
    I agree with Jeff and Ed. Grammys are fucking stupid and meaningless.
    If you think Ed believes that today, you're kidding yourself.
    go on.
    Nowadays, Ed seems to be very comfortable with the Hollywood-entertainment-industrial complex of which the Grammys are a part.
    You can be both comfortable and not care if you win or not. I don't see them actively campaigning. Not like Taylor Swift who's main mission is to get Grammys.
    Not caring whether you win a Grammy, and not campaigning for one, are not the same thing as believing (or saying publicly) that a Grammy is meaningless.

    Taylor Swift is a prolific and phenomenally talented artist whose main mission is clearly writing and performing songs. She doesn't write those songs to win Grammys; they give her Grammys because the songs are so good.
    Not saying she isn't but that doesn't necessarily mean it's "Grammy worthy". PJ has written many great songs/albums that weren't nominated. Gigaton the most recent example. Or if you want someone more contemporary The Weeknd. Look at The Foo Fighters, they have the same amount of wins as PJ has nominations. 15.
    And their music sucks as bad as taylor’s🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    edited November 2023
    Both 1989 and Lover are far ”better” albums than Gigaton

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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,635
    Both 1989 and Lover are far ”better” albums than Gigaton

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    SHE WANT
    Not necessarily 
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,573
    igotid88 said:
    Both 1989 and Lover are far ”better” albums than Gigaton

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    SHE WANT
    Not necessarily 
    Agreed. Not Lover. But definitely every other one thats come out since Gigaton.




  • mfc2006
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    A new single would be nice. Isn't the rumor that the album is coming out in February?
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  • raindog80
    raindog80 Reggio Emilia, Italy Posts: 1,192
    mfc2006 said:
    A new single would be nice. Isn't the rumor that the album is coming out in February?
    Just a rumor. 
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  • The Juggler
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    igotid88 said:
    I do hope we get a theatrical release like they were going to do with Gigaton.
    So they were going to make it into a movie somehow? 
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  • igotid88
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    It's the visualizer videos that are on YouTube. If you have Apple TV or plus you can watch it there. It was recorded on Dolby Atmos. So the movie theater sound would have been nice
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  • BF25394
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    igotid88 said:
    BF25394 said:
    igotid88 said:
    BF25394 said:
    BF25394 said:
    strilo said:
    igotid88 said:
    RiotAct10 said:
    I believe the Stones new album was released after the cut-off date, so it won't be eligible until next year, but the single was released before the cut-off date, so it was eligible. If Pearl Jam's album is any good (which I expect it to be, just saying) then next year I could see Watt being nominated for Producer of the Year with the Stones record and PJs records both counting for next year, along with whatever else is put out with his production (Paul McCartney perhaps?)
    Pearl Jam won't get nominated unfortunately
    I agree with Jeff and Ed. Grammys are fucking stupid and meaningless.
    If you think Ed believes that today, you're kidding yourself.
    go on.
    Nowadays, Ed seems to be very comfortable with the Hollywood-entertainment-industrial complex of which the Grammys are a part.
    You can be both comfortable and not care if you win or not. I don't see them actively campaigning. Not like Taylor Swift who's main mission is to get Grammys.
    Not caring whether you win a Grammy, and not campaigning for one, are not the same thing as believing (or saying publicly) that a Grammy is meaningless.

    Taylor Swift is a prolific and phenomenally talented artist whose main mission is clearly writing and performing songs. She doesn't write those songs to win Grammys; they give her Grammys because the songs are so good.
    Not saying she isn't but that doesn't necessarily mean it's "Grammy worthy". PJ has written many great songs/albums that weren't nominated. Gigaton the most recent example. Or if you want someone more contemporary The Weeknd. Look at The Foo Fighters, they have the same amount of wins as PJ has nominations. 15.
    Pearl Jam is my favorite band. I absolutely love Gigaton. But the best album of 2020 was Folklore, and it wasn't even close. You are free to hold the subjective opinion that Taylor Swift's work is not "Grammy-worthy" but, in reality, it is objectively the epitome of Grammy-worthy: critically lauded and commercially mega-successful. 

    Also, Pearl Jam has released two albums since 2009. Taylor Swift has released eight studio albums since 2009, and that's not counting the four re-recorded albums that are full of new tracks "from the vault." One of these acts is a lot more likely to spring to the mind of the average Grammy voter when he or she thinks, "Hey, who's at the forefront of creativity in music this year?"

    Further, when you stand on stage at an event you've been invited to by an organization and declare that an honor given to you by that organization is meaningless, go figure that you might no longer be considered to the same extent for that honor in the future.
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    mfc2006 said:
    A new single would be nice. Isn't the rumor that the album is coming out in February?
    I said on this site a while ago that the album will be out April 5. I'm sticking to that,
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,635
    BF25394 said:
    igotid88 said:
    BF25394 said:
    igotid88 said:
    BF25394 said:
    BF25394 said:
    strilo said:
    igotid88 said:
    RiotAct10 said:
    I believe the Stones new album was released after the cut-off date, so it won't be eligible until next year, but the single was released before the cut-off date, so it was eligible. If Pearl Jam's album is any good (which I expect it to be, just saying) then next year I could see Watt being nominated for Producer of the Year with the Stones record and PJs records both counting for next year, along with whatever else is put out with his production (Paul McCartney perhaps?)
    Pearl Jam won't get nominated unfortunately
    I agree with Jeff and Ed. Grammys are fucking stupid and meaningless.
    If you think Ed believes that today, you're kidding yourself.
    go on.
    Nowadays, Ed seems to be very comfortable with the Hollywood-entertainment-industrial complex of which the Grammys are a part.
    You can be both comfortable and not care if you win or not. I don't see them actively campaigning. Not like Taylor Swift who's main mission is to get Grammys.
    Not caring whether you win a Grammy, and not campaigning for one, are not the same thing as believing (or saying publicly) that a Grammy is meaningless.

    Taylor Swift is a prolific and phenomenally talented artist whose main mission is clearly writing and performing songs. She doesn't write those songs to win Grammys; they give her Grammys because the songs are so good.
    Not saying she isn't but that doesn't necessarily mean it's "Grammy worthy". PJ has written many great songs/albums that weren't nominated. Gigaton the most recent example. Or if you want someone more contemporary The Weeknd. Look at The Foo Fighters, they have the same amount of wins as PJ has nominations. 15.
    Pearl Jam is my favorite band. I absolutely love Gigaton. But the best album of 2020 was Folklore, and it wasn't even close. You are free to hold the subjective opinion that Taylor Swift's work is not "Grammy-worthy" but, in reality, it is objectively the epitome of Grammy-worthy: critically lauded and commercially mega-successful. 

    Also, Pearl Jam has released two albums since 2009. Taylor Swift has released eight studio albums since 2009, and that's not counting the four re-recorded albums that are full of new tracks "from the vault." One of these acts is a lot more likely to spring to the mind of the average Grammy voter when he or she thinks, "Hey, who's at the forefront of creativity in music this year?"

    Further, when you stand on stage at an event you've been invited to by an organization and declare that an honor given to you by that organization is meaningless, go figure that you might no longer be considered to the same extent for that honor in the future.
    I never said she wasn't Grammy worthy. I'm saying out guys are. And they've been overlooked plenty.
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  • BloodMeridian80
    BloodMeridian80 Seattle Posts: 715
    All awards for 'art' are ridiculous and will mean very little in the long run. Look at the Grammy and Oscar winners from the 60's. Granted Sgt. Pep brought home album of year in 67, but the rest of the list... I mean, Bob Newhart won. Both awards, Oscars and Grammys are notoriously up for sale. 

    So, about this album. Excited for it, loved Gigaton, but very interested to hear as I'm a little nervous about the Watt-effect.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,529
    Peak Pearl Jam news dead zone is Why The Hypothetical New Album Definitively Deserves A Grammy
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  • BrainofBGA
    BrainofBGA Australia Posts: 4,558
    edited November 2023
    demetrios said:
    Sweeet! 

    Is Jeff aware of this!?
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  • HailHailVitalogy
    HailHailVitalogy Posts: 6,013
    edited November 2023
    BF25394 said:
    mfc2006 said:
    A new single would be nice. Isn't the rumor that the album is coming out in February?
    I said on this site a while ago that the album will be out April 5. I'm sticking to that,
    Gotta say that I agree. Avocado was released a eeek before the tour started. Backspacer and Lightning Bolt were released during a tour. Gigaton was released end of March with shows originally beginning first week of May. April release followed by a May leg makes sense…February for a May leg doesn’t.

    There will probably be a single tease within the first two weeks of January. First single in February - New single in March - Album in April - Tour in May. 
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