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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,133
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    Data seems limited, but most things I've read seem to indicate both the vaccine's and natural immunity wane.  Moderna seems to be the most robust, but it still wanes.   Plus the vaccines are getting more and more obsolete.  They were designed for the original strain, so their ability to prevent infection has greatly been reduced, but their ability to prevent bad cases of covid is still strong.

    So this would seem to be an ongoing problem unless vaccine's improve.  After about 6 months vaccine and natural immunity has greatly waned.  So unless better vaccine's come out, isn't the booster thing going to be an issue for a while?  Unless Covid keeps mutating into less lethal strains.

    I guess too.. even if protection has waned, your body must at least remember some of the way to fight the virus, so maybe it's not quite as bad as never been vaccinated or infected.
    Aren't we all prepared for an annual shot, like the flu?  That strain changes yearly and annual shots are recommended.  I think this will be the same.  
    I'd be surprised if they don't offer a twin vaccination for both the flu and CoVid (if it can be done).
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,656
    benjs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    Data seems limited, but most things I've read seem to indicate both the vaccine's and natural immunity wane.  Moderna seems to be the most robust, but it still wanes.   Plus the vaccines are getting more and more obsolete.  They were designed for the original strain, so their ability to prevent infection has greatly been reduced, but their ability to prevent bad cases of covid is still strong.

    So this would seem to be an ongoing problem unless vaccine's improve.  After about 6 months vaccine and natural immunity has greatly waned.  So unless better vaccine's come out, isn't the booster thing going to be an issue for a while?  Unless Covid keeps mutating into less lethal strains.

    I guess too.. even if protection has waned, your body must at least remember some of the way to fight the virus, so maybe it's not quite as bad as never been vaccinated or infected.
    Aren't we all prepared for an annual shot, like the flu?  That strain changes yearly and annual shots are recommended.  I think this will be the same.  
    I'd be surprised if they don't offer a twin vaccination for both the flu and CoVid (if it can be done).
    Absolutely.  I hope they do. That would be great. 
  • ZodZod Posts: 10,578
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    Data seems limited, but most things I've read seem to indicate both the vaccine's and natural immunity wane.  Moderna seems to be the most robust, but it still wanes.   Plus the vaccines are getting more and more obsolete.  They were designed for the original strain, so their ability to prevent infection has greatly been reduced, but their ability to prevent bad cases of covid is still strong.

    So this would seem to be an ongoing problem unless vaccine's improve.  After about 6 months vaccine and natural immunity has greatly waned.  So unless better vaccine's come out, isn't the booster thing going to be an issue for a while?  Unless Covid keeps mutating into less lethal strains.

    I guess too.. even if protection has waned, your body must at least remember some of the way to fight the virus, so maybe it's not quite as bad as never been vaccinated or infected.
    Aren't we all prepared for an annual shot, like the flu?  That strain changes yearly and annual shots are recommended.  I think this will be the same.  

    yah, but at this rate it's a shot every 6 months, not annually.  The vaccines seeem to lose of a lot of effectiveness by 6 months :(
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,656
    Zod said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    Data seems limited, but most things I've read seem to indicate both the vaccine's and natural immunity wane.  Moderna seems to be the most robust, but it still wanes.   Plus the vaccines are getting more and more obsolete.  They were designed for the original strain, so their ability to prevent infection has greatly been reduced, but their ability to prevent bad cases of covid is still strong.

    So this would seem to be an ongoing problem unless vaccine's improve.  After about 6 months vaccine and natural immunity has greatly waned.  So unless better vaccine's come out, isn't the booster thing going to be an issue for a while?  Unless Covid keeps mutating into less lethal strains.

    I guess too.. even if protection has waned, your body must at least remember some of the way to fight the virus, so maybe it's not quite as bad as never been vaccinated or infected.
    Aren't we all prepared for an annual shot, like the flu?  That strain changes yearly and annual shots are recommended.  I think this will be the same.  

    yah, but at this rate it's a shot every 6 months, not annually.  The vaccines seeem to lose of a lot of effectiveness by 6 months :(
    Like influenza,  wouldn't you expect that it becomes seasonal?
  • ZodZod Posts: 10,578
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    Data seems limited, but most things I've read seem to indicate both the vaccine's and natural immunity wane.  Moderna seems to be the most robust, but it still wanes.   Plus the vaccines are getting more and more obsolete.  They were designed for the original strain, so their ability to prevent infection has greatly been reduced, but their ability to prevent bad cases of covid is still strong.

    So this would seem to be an ongoing problem unless vaccine's improve.  After about 6 months vaccine and natural immunity has greatly waned.  So unless better vaccine's come out, isn't the booster thing going to be an issue for a while?  Unless Covid keeps mutating into less lethal strains.

    I guess too.. even if protection has waned, your body must at least remember some of the way to fight the virus, so maybe it's not quite as bad as never been vaccinated or infected.
    Aren't we all prepared for an annual shot, like the flu?  That strain changes yearly and annual shots are recommended.  I think this will be the same.  

    yah, but at this rate it's a shot every 6 months, not annually.  The vaccines seeem to lose of a lot of effectiveness by 6 months :(
    Like influenza,  wouldn't you expect that it becomes seasonal?

    I would hope, but we seem to get several waves of covid every year, and the vaccines were designed to fight the one 2 years ago, and they run out of juice after 6 months.  hopefully things keep getting better so we get to that point :)
  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    Data seems limited, but most things I've read seem to indicate both the vaccine's and natural immunity wane.  Moderna seems to be the most robust, but it still wanes.   Plus the vaccines are getting more and more obsolete.  They were designed for the original strain, so their ability to prevent infection has greatly been reduced, but their ability to prevent bad cases of covid is still strong.

    So this would seem to be an ongoing problem unless vaccine's improve.  After about 6 months vaccine and natural immunity has greatly waned.  So unless better vaccine's come out, isn't the booster thing going to be an issue for a while?  Unless Covid keeps mutating into less lethal strains.

    I guess too.. even if protection has waned, your body must at least remember some of the way to fight the virus, so maybe it's not quite as bad as never been vaccinated or infected.
    Aren't we all prepared for an annual shot, like the flu?  That strain changes yearly and annual shots are recommended.  I think this will be the same.  

    yah, but at this rate it's a shot every 6 months, not annually.  The vaccines seeem to lose of a lot of effectiveness by 6 months :(
    Like influenza,  wouldn't you expect that it becomes seasonal?
    If the current data says that being vaccinated or vaccinated plus boosted by todays standards will keep you from the hospital/death, what is the point of getting another boost?  Don't get me wrong if the data shows that there will be a significant drop in protection from death/hospitalization I will be going to get another booster for sure.  I'm just confused as to why anyone would continue getting shots if they are protected against death and hospitalization.
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,353
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    Data seems limited, but most things I've read seem to indicate both the vaccine's and natural immunity wane.  Moderna seems to be the most robust, but it still wanes.   Plus the vaccines are getting more and more obsolete.  They were designed for the original strain, so their ability to prevent infection has greatly been reduced, but their ability to prevent bad cases of covid is still strong.

    So this would seem to be an ongoing problem unless vaccine's improve.  After about 6 months vaccine and natural immunity has greatly waned.  So unless better vaccine's come out, isn't the booster thing going to be an issue for a while?  Unless Covid keeps mutating into less lethal strains.

    I guess too.. even if protection has waned, your body must at least remember some of the way to fight the virus, so maybe it's not quite as bad as never been vaccinated or infected.
    Aren't we all prepared for an annual shot, like the flu?  That strain changes yearly and annual shots are recommended.  I think this will be the same.  

    yah, but at this rate it's a shot every 6 months, not annually.  The vaccines seeem to lose of a lot of effectiveness by 6 months :(
    Like influenza,  wouldn't you expect that it becomes seasonal?
    If the current data says that being vaccinated or vaccinated plus boosted by todays standards will keep you from the hospital/death, what is the point of getting another boost?  Don't get me wrong if the data shows that there will be a significant drop in protection from death/hospitalization I will be going to get another booster for sure.  I'm just confused as to why anyone would continue getting shots if they are protected against death and hospitalization.
    I’m guessing the immunity fades and the virus changes enough to where eventually it’s ineffective. I don’t think they know which point or how long until hospitalization and death is a serious risk again, but at some point it would be. Once a year doesn’t seem like an unrealistic prediction.
  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,103
    edited March 2022
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    Data seems limited, but most things I've read seem to indicate both the vaccine's and natural immunity wane.  Moderna seems to be the most robust, but it still wanes.   Plus the vaccines are getting more and more obsolete.  They were designed for the original strain, so their ability to prevent infection has greatly been reduced, but their ability to prevent bad cases of covid is still strong.

    So this would seem to be an ongoing problem unless vaccine's improve.  After about 6 months vaccine and natural immunity has greatly waned.  So unless better vaccine's come out, isn't the booster thing going to be an issue for a while?  Unless Covid keeps mutating into less lethal strains.

    I guess too.. even if protection has waned, your body must at least remember some of the way to fight the virus, so maybe it's not quite as bad as never been vaccinated or infected.
    Aren't we all prepared for an annual shot, like the flu?  That strain changes yearly and annual shots are recommended.  I think this will be the same.  

    yah, but at this rate it's a shot every 6 months, not annually.  The vaccines seeem to lose of a lot of effectiveness by 6 months :(
    Like influenza,  wouldn't you expect that it becomes seasonal?
    If the current data says that being vaccinated or vaccinated plus boosted by todays standards will keep you from the hospital/death, what is the point of getting another boost?  Don't get me wrong if the data shows that there will be a significant drop in protection from death/hospitalization I will be going to get another booster for sure.  I'm just confused as to why anyone would continue getting shots if they are protected against death and hospitalization.
    For me, it's also about my role in minimizing spread...i.e., I don't want to catch it at all, even if it's not potentially deadly. Unless you (the greater "you") can tell me why it's problematic to continue to get the shot, I see no reason not to. I go to the dentist twice a year and that's far more annoying and uncomfortable.
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  • OnWis97 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    Data seems limited, but most things I've read seem to indicate both the vaccine's and natural immunity wane.  Moderna seems to be the most robust, but it still wanes.   Plus the vaccines are getting more and more obsolete.  They were designed for the original strain, so their ability to prevent infection has greatly been reduced, but their ability to prevent bad cases of covid is still strong.

    So this would seem to be an ongoing problem unless vaccine's improve.  After about 6 months vaccine and natural immunity has greatly waned.  So unless better vaccine's come out, isn't the booster thing going to be an issue for a while?  Unless Covid keeps mutating into less lethal strains.

    I guess too.. even if protection has waned, your body must at least remember some of the way to fight the virus, so maybe it's not quite as bad as never been vaccinated or infected.
    Aren't we all prepared for an annual shot, like the flu?  That strain changes yearly and annual shots are recommended.  I think this will be the same.  

    yah, but at this rate it's a shot every 6 months, not annually.  The vaccines seeem to lose of a lot of effectiveness by 6 months :(
    Like influenza,  wouldn't you expect that it becomes seasonal?
    If the current data says that being vaccinated or vaccinated plus boosted by todays standards will keep you from the hospital/death, what is the point of getting another boost?  Don't get me wrong if the data shows that there will be a significant drop in protection from death/hospitalization I will be going to get another booster for sure.  I'm just confused as to why anyone would continue getting shots if they are protected against death and hospitalization.
    For me, it's also about my role in minimizing spread...i.e., I don't want to catch it at all, even if it's not potentially deadly. Unless you (the greater "you") can tell me why it's problematic to continue to get the shot, I see no reason not to. I go to the dentist twice a year and that's far more annoying and uncomfortable.
    tell me about it. been 3 times in the last month (regular check up, then jaw pain, then follow up-apparently SSRI's can cause TMJ! WTF!!)
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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,133
    OnWis97 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    Data seems limited, but most things I've read seem to indicate both the vaccine's and natural immunity wane.  Moderna seems to be the most robust, but it still wanes.   Plus the vaccines are getting more and more obsolete.  They were designed for the original strain, so their ability to prevent infection has greatly been reduced, but their ability to prevent bad cases of covid is still strong.

    So this would seem to be an ongoing problem unless vaccine's improve.  After about 6 months vaccine and natural immunity has greatly waned.  So unless better vaccine's come out, isn't the booster thing going to be an issue for a while?  Unless Covid keeps mutating into less lethal strains.

    I guess too.. even if protection has waned, your body must at least remember some of the way to fight the virus, so maybe it's not quite as bad as never been vaccinated or infected.
    Aren't we all prepared for an annual shot, like the flu?  That strain changes yearly and annual shots are recommended.  I think this will be the same.  

    yah, but at this rate it's a shot every 6 months, not annually.  The vaccines seeem to lose of a lot of effectiveness by 6 months :(
    Like influenza,  wouldn't you expect that it becomes seasonal?
    If the current data says that being vaccinated or vaccinated plus boosted by todays standards will keep you from the hospital/death, what is the point of getting another boost?  Don't get me wrong if the data shows that there will be a significant drop in protection from death/hospitalization I will be going to get another booster for sure.  I'm just confused as to why anyone would continue getting shots if they are protected against death and hospitalization.
    For me, it's also about my role in minimizing spread...i.e., I don't want to catch it at all, even if it's not potentially deadly. Unless you (the greater "you") can tell me why it's problematic to continue to get the shot, I see no reason not to. I go to the dentist twice a year and that's far more annoying and uncomfortable.
    tell me about it. been 3 times in the last month (regular check up, then jaw pain, then follow up-apparently SSRI's can cause TMJ! WTF!!)
    That explains a lot. Then the TMJ exacerbates my tinnitus :( 
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  • benjs said:
    OnWis97 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    Data seems limited, but most things I've read seem to indicate both the vaccine's and natural immunity wane.  Moderna seems to be the most robust, but it still wanes.   Plus the vaccines are getting more and more obsolete.  They were designed for the original strain, so their ability to prevent infection has greatly been reduced, but their ability to prevent bad cases of covid is still strong.

    So this would seem to be an ongoing problem unless vaccine's improve.  After about 6 months vaccine and natural immunity has greatly waned.  So unless better vaccine's come out, isn't the booster thing going to be an issue for a while?  Unless Covid keeps mutating into less lethal strains.

    I guess too.. even if protection has waned, your body must at least remember some of the way to fight the virus, so maybe it's not quite as bad as never been vaccinated or infected.
    Aren't we all prepared for an annual shot, like the flu?  That strain changes yearly and annual shots are recommended.  I think this will be the same.  

    yah, but at this rate it's a shot every 6 months, not annually.  The vaccines seeem to lose of a lot of effectiveness by 6 months :(
    Like influenza,  wouldn't you expect that it becomes seasonal?
    If the current data says that being vaccinated or vaccinated plus boosted by todays standards will keep you from the hospital/death, what is the point of getting another boost?  Don't get me wrong if the data shows that there will be a significant drop in protection from death/hospitalization I will be going to get another booster for sure.  I'm just confused as to why anyone would continue getting shots if they are protected against death and hospitalization.
    For me, it's also about my role in minimizing spread...i.e., I don't want to catch it at all, even if it's not potentially deadly. Unless you (the greater "you") can tell me why it's problematic to continue to get the shot, I see no reason not to. I go to the dentist twice a year and that's far more annoying and uncomfortable.
    tell me about it. been 3 times in the last month (regular check up, then jaw pain, then follow up-apparently SSRI's can cause TMJ! WTF!!)
    That explains a lot. Then the TMJ exacerbates my tinnitus :( 
    totally bizarre, tinnitus just started up for me in January, out of the blue, prior to me starting up my SSRI's again. mostly it happens at night when I lie down (and it's not a quiet thing-we have a dehumidifier running 24/7 that can get quite noisy, and it seems to actually make it worse). 

    so I'm wondering if I already ground my teeth because of my sleep apnea (fuck I have a lot of issues lol), and that's what caused the tinnitus, and then the TMJ just made everything worse once I started my SSRI's. 

    but I quit my SSRI's immediately upon reading that, (but also because of some GI issues that were going on 5 weeks that should have been done after week 2). 

    so I'm really hoping my tinnitus goes away. Mind you, I do find that what I read was kinda true; even though it's loud, it doesn't stress me out as much as it did in the beginning. 
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  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,715
    benjs said:
    OnWis97 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    Data seems limited, but most things I've read seem to indicate both the vaccine's and natural immunity wane.  Moderna seems to be the most robust, but it still wanes.   Plus the vaccines are getting more and more obsolete.  They were designed for the original strain, so their ability to prevent infection has greatly been reduced, but their ability to prevent bad cases of covid is still strong.

    So this would seem to be an ongoing problem unless vaccine's improve.  After about 6 months vaccine and natural immunity has greatly waned.  So unless better vaccine's come out, isn't the booster thing going to be an issue for a while?  Unless Covid keeps mutating into less lethal strains.

    I guess too.. even if protection has waned, your body must at least remember some of the way to fight the virus, so maybe it's not quite as bad as never been vaccinated or infected.
    Aren't we all prepared for an annual shot, like the flu?  That strain changes yearly and annual shots are recommended.  I think this will be the same.  

    yah, but at this rate it's a shot every 6 months, not annually.  The vaccines seeem to lose of a lot of effectiveness by 6 months :(
    Like influenza,  wouldn't you expect that it becomes seasonal?
    If the current data says that being vaccinated or vaccinated plus boosted by todays standards will keep you from the hospital/death, what is the point of getting another boost?  Don't get me wrong if the data shows that there will be a significant drop in protection from death/hospitalization I will be going to get another booster for sure.  I'm just confused as to why anyone would continue getting shots if they are protected against death and hospitalization.
    For me, it's also about my role in minimizing spread...i.e., I don't want to catch it at all, even if it's not potentially deadly. Unless you (the greater "you") can tell me why it's problematic to continue to get the shot, I see no reason not to. I go to the dentist twice a year and that's far more annoying and uncomfortable.
    tell me about it. been 3 times in the last month (regular check up, then jaw pain, then follow up-apparently SSRI's can cause TMJ! WTF!!)
    That explains a lot. Then the TMJ exacerbates my tinnitus :( 
    totally bizarre, tinnitus just started up for me in January, out of the blue, prior to me starting up my SSRI's again. mostly it happens at night when I lie down (and it's not a quiet thing-we have a dehumidifier running 24/7 that can get quite noisy, and it seems to actually make it worse). 

    so I'm wondering if I already ground my teeth because of my sleep apnea (fuck I have a lot of issues lol), and that's what caused the tinnitus, and then the TMJ just made everything worse once I started my SSRI's. 

    but I quit my SSRI's immediately upon reading that, (but also because of some GI issues that were going on 5 weeks that should have been done after week 2). 

    so I'm really hoping my tinnitus goes away. Mind you, I do find that what I read was kinda true; even though it's loud, it doesn't stress me out as much as it did in the beginning. 
    Take a look at Wellbutrin and maybe even Cymbalta.  I have CFS, Bruxism, TMJ, Tinnitus, etc.  and they both help me. 
  • benjs said:
    OnWis97 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Zod said:
    Data seems limited, but most things I've read seem to indicate both the vaccine's and natural immunity wane.  Moderna seems to be the most robust, but it still wanes.   Plus the vaccines are getting more and more obsolete.  They were designed for the original strain, so their ability to prevent infection has greatly been reduced, but their ability to prevent bad cases of covid is still strong.

    So this would seem to be an ongoing problem unless vaccine's improve.  After about 6 months vaccine and natural immunity has greatly waned.  So unless better vaccine's come out, isn't the booster thing going to be an issue for a while?  Unless Covid keeps mutating into less lethal strains.

    I guess too.. even if protection has waned, your body must at least remember some of the way to fight the virus, so maybe it's not quite as bad as never been vaccinated or infected.
    Aren't we all prepared for an annual shot, like the flu?  That strain changes yearly and annual shots are recommended.  I think this will be the same.  

    yah, but at this rate it's a shot every 6 months, not annually.  The vaccines seeem to lose of a lot of effectiveness by 6 months :(
    Like influenza,  wouldn't you expect that it becomes seasonal?
    If the current data says that being vaccinated or vaccinated plus boosted by todays standards will keep you from the hospital/death, what is the point of getting another boost?  Don't get me wrong if the data shows that there will be a significant drop in protection from death/hospitalization I will be going to get another booster for sure.  I'm just confused as to why anyone would continue getting shots if they are protected against death and hospitalization.
    For me, it's also about my role in minimizing spread...i.e., I don't want to catch it at all, even if it's not potentially deadly. Unless you (the greater "you") can tell me why it's problematic to continue to get the shot, I see no reason not to. I go to the dentist twice a year and that's far more annoying and uncomfortable.
    tell me about it. been 3 times in the last month (regular check up, then jaw pain, then follow up-apparently SSRI's can cause TMJ! WTF!!)
    That explains a lot. Then the TMJ exacerbates my tinnitus :( 
    totally bizarre, tinnitus just started up for me in January, out of the blue, prior to me starting up my SSRI's again. mostly it happens at night when I lie down (and it's not a quiet thing-we have a dehumidifier running 24/7 that can get quite noisy, and it seems to actually make it worse). 

    so I'm wondering if I already ground my teeth because of my sleep apnea (fuck I have a lot of issues lol), and that's what caused the tinnitus, and then the TMJ just made everything worse once I started my SSRI's. 

    but I quit my SSRI's immediately upon reading that, (but also because of some GI issues that were going on 5 weeks that should have been done after week 2). 

    so I'm really hoping my tinnitus goes away. Mind you, I do find that what I read was kinda true; even though it's loud, it doesn't stress me out as much as it did in the beginning. 
    Take a look at Wellbutrin and maybe even Cymbalta.  I have CFS, Bruxism, TMJ, Tinnitus, etc.  and they both help me. 
    Thanks. I’ll check with my doc (and have to check if those are available in Canada)
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    Latest version of omicron accounts for most new infections in many parts of the U.S., genomics testing shows  https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/03/22/omicron-ba2-us-dominant/ 
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      FDA expected to authorize second coronavirus booster for 50 and older

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,503
    ending gov paid for testing seems smart.....


    UK hits record COVID-19 levels; nearly 5 million infected
    By SYLVIA HUI
    Today

    LONDON (AP) — The prevalence of COVID-19 in the U.K. has reached record levels, with about 1 in 13 people estimated to be infected with the virus in the past week, according to the latest figures from Britain's official statistics agency.

    Some 4.9 million people were estimated to have the coronavirus in the week ending March 26, up from 4.3 million recorded in the previous week, the Office for National Statistics said Friday. The latest surge is driven by the more transmissible omicron variant BA.2, which is the dominant variant across the U.K.

    Hospitalizations and death rates are again rising, although the number of people dying with COVID-19 is still relatively low compared with earlier this year. Nonetheless, the latest estimates suggest that the steep climb in new infections since late February, when British Prime Minister Boris Johnson scrapped all remaining coronavirus restrictions in England, has continued well into March.

    The figures came on the same day the government ended free rapid COVID-19 tests for most people in England, under Johnson's “living with COVID” plan. People who do not have health conditions that make them more vulnerable to the virus now need to pay for tests to find out if they are infected.

    “The government's ‘living with COVID’ strategy of removing any mitigations, isolation, free testing and a considerable slice of our surveillance amounts to nothing more than ignoring this virus going forwards,” said Stephen Griffin, associate professor at the University of Leeds' medical school.

    “Such unchecked prevalence endangers the protection afforded by our vaccines,” he said. “Our vaccines are excellent, but they are not silver bullets and ought not to be left to bear the brunt of COVID in isolation.”

    More than 67% of people 12 years old and above in the U.K. have been vaccinated and had their booster or a third dose of the coronavirus vaccine. Beginning Saturday, parents can also book a low-dose vaccine for children between 5 to 12 years old in England.

    James Naismith, a biology professor at the University of Oxford, said he believed that except for those who are completely shielded or not susceptible to the virus, most people in the country would likely be infected with the BA.2 variant by the summer.

    “This is literally living with the virus by being infected with it," he said.

    ___

    Follow all AP stories on the coronavirus pandemic at https://apnews.com/hub/coronavirus-pandemic.


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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,779
    mickeyrat said:
    ending gov paid for testing seems smart.....


    UK hits record COVID-19 levels; nearly 5 million infected
    By SYLVIA HUI
    Today

    LONDON (AP) — The prevalence of COVID-19 in the U.K. has reached record levels, with about 1 in 13 people estimated to be infected with the virus in the past week, according to the latest figures from Britain's official statistics agency.

    Some 4.9 million people were estimated to have the coronavirus in the week ending March 26, up from 4.3 million recorded in the previous week, the Office for National Statistics said Friday. The latest surge is driven by the more transmissible omicron variant BA.2, which is the dominant variant across the U.K.

    Hospitalizations and death rates are again rising, although the number of people dying with COVID-19 is still relatively low compared with earlier this year. Nonetheless, the latest estimates suggest that the steep climb in new infections since late February, when British Prime Minister Boris Johnson scrapped all remaining coronavirus restrictions in England, has continued well into March.

    The figures came on the same day the government ended free rapid COVID-19 tests for most people in England, under Johnson's “living with COVID” plan. People who do not have health conditions that make them more vulnerable to the virus now need to pay for tests to find out if they are infected.

    “The government's ‘living with COVID’ strategy of removing any mitigations, isolation, free testing and a considerable slice of our surveillance amounts to nothing more than ignoring this virus going forwards,” said Stephen Griffin, associate professor at the University of Leeds' medical school.

    “Such unchecked prevalence endangers the protection afforded by our vaccines,” he said. “Our vaccines are excellent, but they are not silver bullets and ought not to be left to bear the brunt of COVID in isolation.”

    More than 67% of people 12 years old and above in the U.K. have been vaccinated and had their booster or a third dose of the coronavirus vaccine. Beginning Saturday, parents can also book a low-dose vaccine for children between 5 to 12 years old in England.

    James Naismith, a biology professor at the University of Oxford, said he believed that except for those who are completely shielded or not susceptible to the virus, most people in the country would likely be infected with the BA.2 variant by the summer.

    “This is literally living with the virus by being infected with it," he said.

    ___

    Follow all AP stories on the coronavirus pandemic at https://apnews.com/hub/coronavirus-pandemic.


    This country again fails 
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,619
    mickeyrat said:
    ending gov paid for testing seems smart.....


    UK hits record COVID-19 levels; nearly 5 million infected
    By SYLVIA HUI
    Today

    LONDON (AP) — The prevalence of COVID-19 in the U.K. has reached record levels, with about 1 in 13 people estimated to be infected with the virus in the past week, according to the latest figures from Britain's official statistics agency.

    Some 4.9 million people were estimated to have the coronavirus in the week ending March 26, up from 4.3 million recorded in the previous week, the Office for National Statistics said Friday. The latest surge is driven by the more transmissible omicron variant BA.2, which is the dominant variant across the U.K.

    Hospitalizations and death rates are again rising, although the number of people dying with COVID-19 is still relatively low compared with earlier this year. Nonetheless, the latest estimates suggest that the steep climb in new infections since late February, when British Prime Minister Boris Johnson scrapped all remaining coronavirus restrictions in England, has continued well into March.

    The figures came on the same day the government ended free rapid COVID-19 tests for most people in England, under Johnson's “living with COVID” plan. People who do not have health conditions that make them more vulnerable to the virus now need to pay for tests to find out if they are infected.

    “The government's ‘living with COVID’ strategy of removing any mitigations, isolation, free testing and a considerable slice of our surveillance amounts to nothing more than ignoring this virus going forwards,” said Stephen Griffin, associate professor at the University of Leeds' medical school.

    “Such unchecked prevalence endangers the protection afforded by our vaccines,” he said. “Our vaccines are excellent, but they are not silver bullets and ought not to be left to bear the brunt of COVID in isolation.”

    More than 67% of people 12 years old and above in the U.K. have been vaccinated and had their booster or a third dose of the coronavirus vaccine. Beginning Saturday, parents can also book a low-dose vaccine for children between 5 to 12 years old in England.

    James Naismith, a biology professor at the University of Oxford, said he believed that except for those who are completely shielded or not susceptible to the virus, most people in the country would likely be infected with the BA.2 variant by the summer.

    “This is literally living with the virus by being infected with it," he said.

    ___

    Follow all AP stories on the coronavirus pandemic at https://apnews.com/hub/coronavirus-pandemic.


    This country again fails 

    The US?
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,886
    mickeyrat said:
    ending gov paid for testing seems smart.....


    UK hits record COVID-19 levels; nearly 5 million infected
    By SYLVIA HUI
    Today

    LONDON (AP) — The prevalence of COVID-19 in the U.K. has reached record levels, with about 1 in 13 people estimated to be infected with the virus in the past week, according to the latest figures from Britain's official statistics agency.

    Some 4.9 million people were estimated to have the coronavirus in the week ending March 26, up from 4.3 million recorded in the previous week, the Office for National Statistics said Friday. The latest surge is driven by the more transmissible omicron variant BA.2, which is the dominant variant across the U.K.

    Hospitalizations and death rates are again rising, although the number of people dying with COVID-19 is still relatively low compared with earlier this year. Nonetheless, the latest estimates suggest that the steep climb in new infections since late February, when British Prime Minister Boris Johnson scrapped all remaining coronavirus restrictions in England, has continued well into March.

    The figures came on the same day the government ended free rapid COVID-19 tests for most people in England, under Johnson's “living with COVID” plan. People who do not have health conditions that make them more vulnerable to the virus now need to pay for tests to find out if they are infected.

    “The government's ‘living with COVID’ strategy of removing any mitigations, isolation, free testing and a considerable slice of our surveillance amounts to nothing more than ignoring this virus going forwards,” said Stephen Griffin, associate professor at the University of Leeds' medical school.

    “Such unchecked prevalence endangers the protection afforded by our vaccines,” he said. “Our vaccines are excellent, but they are not silver bullets and ought not to be left to bear the brunt of COVID in isolation.”

    More than 67% of people 12 years old and above in the U.K. have been vaccinated and had their booster or a third dose of the coronavirus vaccine. Beginning Saturday, parents can also book a low-dose vaccine for children between 5 to 12 years old in England.

    James Naismith, a biology professor at the University of Oxford, said he believed that except for those who are completely shielded or not susceptible to the virus, most people in the country would likely be infected with the BA.2 variant by the summer.

    “This is literally living with the virus by being infected with it," he said.

    ___

    Follow all AP stories on the coronavirus pandemic at https://apnews.com/hub/coronavirus-pandemic.


    This country again fails 

    The US?
    Britain.
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,779
    Uk yes. Piss  poor 
    brixton 93
    astoria 06
    albany 06
    hartford 06
    reading 06
    barcelona 06
    paris 06
    wembley 07
    dusseldorf 07
    nijmegen 07

    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,925
    I just realized I have gone days and weeks without even thinking about COVID-19.   Maybe saw someone with a mask but that is probably the only reason it comes to mind.  Hopefully this thing turns into th leg flu quickly and can be managed.
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