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- Fox, M. (2017, March 16). Trump Budget Cuts to Scientific, Medical Research Would Have ‘Devastating’ Effect: Experts. Retrieved from https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/trump-budget-cuts-scientific-medical-research-will-have-devastating-effect-n734401
- Begley, S. (2010, August 5). Some Pharmaceutical Clinical Trial Results are Buried, Study Shows. Retrieved from https://www.newsweek.com/some-pharmaceutical-clinical-trial-results-are-buried-study-shows-71561
- NIH. (2017). Budget. Retrieved from https://www.nih.gov/about-nih/what-we-do/budget#note
- Als-Nielsen, B. et al. (2003). Association of funding and conclusions in randomized drug trials: a reflection of treatment effect or adverse events? Retrieved from https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12928469
- Anderson, R. (2014). Pharmaceutical industry gets high on fat profits. Retrieved from https://www.bbc.com/news/business-28212223
- U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. (2014). Examination of Clinical Trial Costs And Barriers For Drug Development. Retrieved from https://aspe.hhs.gov/reports/examination-clinical-trial-costs-barriers-drug-development-0
- Carome, MD, Michael A. Personal Interview. 9 June 2017.
- Chopra, AM, S. S. (2003). Industry Funding of Clinical trials: Benefit or Bias? Retrieved from https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/196846
- Cormack, L. (2017). Big pharma funding biases drug trials in favour of a sponsor’s product: review. Retrieved from https://www.smh.com.au/healthcare/big-pharma-funding-biases-drug-trials-in-favour-of-a-sponsors-product-review-20170220-gugr0d.html
- Ehrhardt, S. et al. (2015). Trends in National Institutes of Health Funding for Clinical Trials Registered in ClinicalTrials.gov. Retrieved from https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2475454
- Herper, M. (2005). David Graham On The Vioxx Verdict. Retrieved from: https://www.forbes.com/2005/08/19/merck-vioxx-graham_cx_mh_0819graham.html
- Joober, R. et al. (2012). Publication bias: What are the challenges and can they be overcome? Retrieved from https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3341407/
- Lundh, A. et al. (2017). Industry sponsorship and research outcome. Retrieved from https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28207928/
- Sandle, T. (2015). Most clinical trials today are funded by Big Pharma. Retrieved from https://www.digitaljournal.com/tech-science/most-clinical-trials-today-are-funded-by-big-pharma/article/452974
- Tomes, MBA, Madris. Personal Interview. 9 June 2017.
- Van Praet, N. (2014). The new drug dilemma: Does big pharma have a duty to humankind – or its shareholders? Retrieved from https://financialpost.com/investing/the-new-drug-dilemma-does-big-pharma-have-a-moral-duty-to-humankind-or-its-shareholders
- Weintraub, A. (2016). Why Big Pharma Gets A Failing Grade On Clinical Trial Transparency. Retrieved from https://www.forbes.com/sites/arleneweintraub/2016/08/17/why-big-pharma-gets-a-failing-grade-on-clinical-trial-transparency/#437150406cbd
- Whoriskey, P. (2012). As drug industry’s influence over research grows, so does the potential for bias. Retrieved from https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/as-drug-industrys-influence-over-research-grows-so-does-the-potential-for-bias/2012/11/24/bb64d596-1264-11e2-be82-c3411b7680a9_story.html?utm_term=.8c554c8d6336
- Peart, K.N. (2003, January 21). Financial Conflicts of Interest Can Influence Biomedical Research Outcomes, Yale Researchers Show. Retrieved from https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/2999/
- Perry, S. (2012, July 31). Private-sector physicians run clinical trials mostly for the money, study finds. Retrieved from https://www.minnpost.com/second-opinion/2012/07/private-sector-physicians-run-clinical-trials-mostly-money-study-finds/
- Fisher, J.A. & Kalbaugh, C.A. (2012). United States Private-Sector Physicians and Pharmaceutical Contract Research: A Quantitative Study. Retrieved from https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1001271
- Wolford, B. (2014, November 13). Big Pharma Plays Hide-the-Ball with Data. Retrieved from https://www.newsweek.com/2014/11/21/medical-science-has-data-problem-284066.html
- Szalavitz, M. (2011). The Seroquel Scandal: A Minnesota Psychiatrist's Ethical Lapses Are Suspected. Retrieved from https://healthland.time.com/2011/02/03/the-seroquel-scandal-a-minnesota-psychiatrists-ethical-lapses-are-suspected/
0 - Fox, M. (2017, March 16). Trump Budget Cuts to Scientific, Medical Research Would Have ‘Devastating’ Effect: Experts. Retrieved from https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/trump-budget-cuts-scientific-medical-research-will-have-devastating-effect-n734401
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Point being?AW124797 said:Here. From the above for our source seekers...- Fox, M. (2017, March 16). Trump Budget Cuts to Scientific, Medical Research Would Have ‘Devastating’ Effect: Experts. Retrieved from https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/trump-budget-cuts-scientific-medical-research-will-have-devastating-effect-n734401
- Begley, S. (2010, August 5). Some Pharmaceutical Clinical Trial Results are Buried, Study Shows. Retrieved from https://www.newsweek.com/some-pharmaceutical-clinical-trial-results-are-buried-study-shows-71561
- NIH. (2017). Budget. Retrieved from https://www.nih.gov/about-nih/what-we-do/budget#note
- Als-Nielsen, B. et al. (2003). Association of funding and conclusions in randomized drug trials: a reflection of treatment effect or adverse events? Retrieved from https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12928469
- Anderson, R. (2014). Pharmaceutical industry gets high on fat profits. Retrieved from https://www.bbc.com/news/business-28212223
- U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. (2014). Examination of Clinical Trial Costs And Barriers For Drug Development. Retrieved from https://aspe.hhs.gov/reports/examination-clinical-trial-costs-barriers-drug-development-0
- Carome, MD, Michael A. Personal Interview. 9 June 2017.
- Chopra, AM, S. S. (2003). Industry Funding of Clinical trials: Benefit or Bias? Retrieved from https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/196846
- Cormack, L. (2017). Big pharma funding biases drug trials in favour of a sponsor’s product: review. Retrieved from https://www.smh.com.au/healthcare/big-pharma-funding-biases-drug-trials-in-favour-of-a-sponsors-product-review-20170220-gugr0d.html
- Ehrhardt, S. et al. (2015). Trends in National Institutes of Health Funding for Clinical Trials Registered in ClinicalTrials.gov. Retrieved from https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2475454
- Herper, M. (2005). David Graham On The Vioxx Verdict. Retrieved from: https://www.forbes.com/2005/08/19/merck-vioxx-graham_cx_mh_0819graham.html
- Joober, R. et al. (2012). Publication bias: What are the challenges and can they be overcome? Retrieved from https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3341407/
- Lundh, A. et al. (2017). Industry sponsorship and research outcome. Retrieved from https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28207928/
- Sandle, T. (2015). Most clinical trials today are funded by Big Pharma. Retrieved from https://www.digitaljournal.com/tech-science/most-clinical-trials-today-are-funded-by-big-pharma/article/452974
- Tomes, MBA, Madris. Personal Interview. 9 June 2017.
- Van Praet, N. (2014). The new drug dilemma: Does big pharma have a duty to humankind – or its shareholders? Retrieved from https://financialpost.com/investing/the-new-drug-dilemma-does-big-pharma-have-a-moral-duty-to-humankind-or-its-shareholders
- Weintraub, A. (2016). Why Big Pharma Gets A Failing Grade On Clinical Trial Transparency. Retrieved from https://www.forbes.com/sites/arleneweintraub/2016/08/17/why-big-pharma-gets-a-failing-grade-on-clinical-trial-transparency/#437150406cbd
- Whoriskey, P. (2012). As drug industry’s influence over research grows, so does the potential for bias. Retrieved from https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/as-drug-industrys-influence-over-research-grows-so-does-the-potential-for-bias/2012/11/24/bb64d596-1264-11e2-be82-c3411b7680a9_story.html?utm_term=.8c554c8d6336
- Peart, K.N. (2003, January 21). Financial Conflicts of Interest Can Influence Biomedical Research Outcomes, Yale Researchers Show. Retrieved from https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/2999/
- Perry, S. (2012, July 31). Private-sector physicians run clinical trials mostly for the money, study finds. Retrieved from https://www.minnpost.com/second-opinion/2012/07/private-sector-physicians-run-clinical-trials-mostly-money-study-finds/
- Fisher, J.A. & Kalbaugh, C.A. (2012). United States Private-Sector Physicians and Pharmaceutical Contract Research: A Quantitative Study. Retrieved from https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1001271
- Wolford, B. (2014, November 13). Big Pharma Plays Hide-the-Ball with Data. Retrieved from https://www.newsweek.com/2014/11/21/medical-science-has-data-problem-284066.html
- Szalavitz, M. (2011). The Seroquel Scandal: A Minnesota Psychiatrist's Ethical Lapses Are Suspected. Retrieved from https://healthland.time.com/2011/02/03/the-seroquel-scandal-a-minnesota-psychiatrists-ethical-lapses-are-suspected/
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How do you think your link applies to the Covid vaccine? And can you define ‘Big Pharma”? What’s the threshold?AW124797 said:
Do you work for big pharma by any chance? Serious question. Or Pfizer shareholder, perhaps?Halifax2TheMax said:If you want to learn, consider the source from which will teach you. To claim some of the related heart issues haven’t been reported upon or that it’s not allowed, is well, poppycock.
36 out of a million. Both heart conditions can also be caused by influenza or another type of vaccine or viral infection. Again, consider the source from which you get your information to learn from.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html
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I didn't realize Neil had a brother who did research on pharma nor that this stuff was researched and reported on, never mind being discussed. Silly me.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Go Beavers said:
How do you think your link applies to the Covid vaccine? And can you define ‘Big Pharma”? What’s the threshold?AW124797 said:
Do you work for big pharma by any chance? Serious question. Or Pfizer shareholder, perhaps?Halifax2TheMax said:If you want to learn, consider the source from which will teach you. To claim some of the related heart issues haven’t been reported upon or that it’s not allowed, is well, poppycock.
36 out of a million. Both heart conditions can also be caused by influenza or another type of vaccine or viral infection. Again, consider the source from which you get your information to learn from.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html
https://www.drugwatch.com/featured/clinical-trials-and-hidden-data/
These are the same criminals that pushed vioxx, escalated oxy and sprinkled fentanyl into prescription drugs here and there. How can we trust them with covid vaccine studies if they do the research themselves?Post edited by AW124797 on0 -
Can't wait to welcome him back on Spotify.Halifax2TheMax said:I didn't realize Neil had a brother who did research on pharma nor that this stuff was researched and reported on, never mind being discussed. Silly me.0 -
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Can't wait to welcome him back on Spotify.Halifax2TheMax said:I didn't realize Neil had a brother who did research on pharma nor that this stuff was researched and reported on, never mind being discussed. Silly me.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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I don't. What happened there?Halifax2TheMax said:
No and no. Do you have a link to the gateway pundit about the basketball player?AW124797 said:
Do you work for big pharma by any chance? Serious question. Or Pfizer shareholder, perhaps?Halifax2TheMax said:If you want to learn, consider the source from which will teach you. To claim some of the related heart issues haven’t been reported upon or that it’s not allowed, is well, poppycock.
36 out of a million. Both heart conditions can also be caused by influenza or another type of vaccine or viral infection. Again, consider the source from which you get your information to learn from.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html
https://www.drugwatch.com/featured/clinical-trials-and-hidden-data/0 -
Moderna hadn’t put anything out prior to Covid, and it was Merck who was fudging the data on Vioxx. I don’t know who was sprinkling fentanyl in prescription drugs.AW124797 said:Go Beavers said:
How do you think your link applies to the Covid vaccine? And can you define ‘Big Pharma”? What’s the threshold?AW124797 said:
Do you work for big pharma by any chance? Serious question. Or Pfizer shareholder, perhaps?Halifax2TheMax said:If you want to learn, consider the source from which will teach you. To claim some of the related heart issues haven’t been reported upon or that it’s not allowed, is well, poppycock.
36 out of a million. Both heart conditions can also be caused by influenza or another type of vaccine or viral infection. Again, consider the source from which you get your information to learn from.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html
https://www.drugwatch.com/featured/clinical-trials-and-hidden-data/
These are the same criminals that pushed vioxx, escalated oxy and sprinkled fentanyl into prescription drugs here and there. How can we trust them with covid vaccine studies if they do the research themselves?0 -
My bad, confused you with another poster. See the top of the page.AW124797 said:
I don't. What happened there?Halifax2TheMax said:
No and no. Do you have a link to the gateway pundit about the basketball player?AW124797 said:
Do you work for big pharma by any chance? Serious question. Or Pfizer shareholder, perhaps?Halifax2TheMax said:If you want to learn, consider the source from which will teach you. To claim some of the related heart issues haven’t been reported upon or that it’s not allowed, is well, poppycock.
36 out of a million. Both heart conditions can also be caused by influenza or another type of vaccine or viral infection. Again, consider the source from which you get your information to learn from.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html
https://www.drugwatch.com/featured/clinical-trials-and-hidden-data/
Appears the basketball player was 1 of 36 of 1,000,000, which, apparently, is evidence of mass occurrences, according to some, and that you can’t talk about it, or something like that.Post edited by Halifax2TheMax on09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Very well said..I have been saying this for three years now..with zero information as they have already admitted they forced the world to make the vaccine..any critical thought was baptized a conspiracy theory..anyone who expressed an opposing opinion was marginalized..doctors and scientists all over the world were vilified.. shame on our society..OnWis97 said:
Could this be one? https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/air-force-offensive-lineman-hunter-brown-21-dies-after-suffering-medical-emergency/23scidoo said:
The one million question..HughFreakingDillon said:are these collapsing athletes happening more often, or just now being reported more?
Of course, just reading this, we don't know what happened. And it's seemingly impossible to get reliable news on just about anything.
Here's what I know: Vaccine injuries are a thing. Some people were forced (or essentially forced with their livelihoods on the line) to take the shot.
Here's what I think: The risks were underplayed and therefore poorly understood. Probably a combination of greedy big pharma, politicians in big pharma's pocket, media that was 1) duped by them and 2) scarred to be viewed as fearmongers, a well-meaning societal fervor leading to a bit of hastiness, and maybe even backlash to the anti-vaxxers.
The existence of the vaccinations is good. I really believe that. But too many people went (or were forced) into it without a good understanding of the risks. That said, I think a lot of folks also didn't understand the risks of actually getting covid and favored a bigger risk over a smaller risk. But they needed to be able to make that choice, good or bad, on their own and some weren't. I cannot really blame someone who never wanted to get it and then had their quality of life compromised (or a family member die) after being forced for being really upset and lashing out.
In this day and age, correct/good/accurate/honest information is harder to come by than ever but we were duped. Myself included...sure, maybe I could have looked harder into it, but when all I hear is "It's going to kill you" and "they're safe" I chose to trust the less fear-mongering people and those that seemed (and maybe even were) less politically motivated. But there should have been a lot more "they're generally safe, but..." from them.Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
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Somewhere in USA..
Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
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@lastexitlondon what can you tell us about Dr. Aseem Malhotra ans what happened to Andrew Bridgen??Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
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For those saying the media doesn't allow conversations promoting vaccine skepticism or concern, have you ever heard of Jon Stewart or Apple?
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I had to google what happened as i dont really watch news to often but it says he tweeted something about a cardiologist saying it was like the holocaust which is ridiculous so he got suspended which i agree with, you cant say stuff like that. As for dr.aseem again i had to google him but seems he started out advocating the vaccines and now he thinks it causes more harm and we are better off concentrating on obesity and diabetes as the answer to covid outcomes.23scidoo said:@lastexitlondon what can you tell us about Dr. Aseem Malhotra ans what happened to Andrew Bridgen??
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There’s a good level of historical revisionism happening with both anti-vaxxers and people with vaccine regrets.benjs said:For those saying the media doesn't allow conversations promoting vaccine skepticism or concern, have you ever heard of Jon Stewart or Apple?https://youtu.be/MLdw4stSgNU0 -
Who’s they?23scidoo said:
Very well said..I have been saying this for three years now..with zero information as they have already admitted they forced the world to make the vaccine..any critical thought was baptized a conspiracy theory..anyone who expressed an opposing opinion was marginalized..doctors and scientists all over the world were vilified.. shame on our society..OnWis97 said:
Could this be one? https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/air-force-offensive-lineman-hunter-brown-21-dies-after-suffering-medical-emergency/23scidoo said:
The one million question..HughFreakingDillon said:are these collapsing athletes happening more often, or just now being reported more?
Of course, just reading this, we don't know what happened. And it's seemingly impossible to get reliable news on just about anything.
Here's what I know: Vaccine injuries are a thing. Some people were forced (or essentially forced with their livelihoods on the line) to take the shot.
Here's what I think: The risks were underplayed and therefore poorly understood. Probably a combination of greedy big pharma, politicians in big pharma's pocket, media that was 1) duped by them and 2) scarred to be viewed as fearmongers, a well-meaning societal fervor leading to a bit of hastiness, and maybe even backlash to the anti-vaxxers.
The existence of the vaccinations is good. I really believe that. But too many people went (or were forced) into it without a good understanding of the risks. That said, I think a lot of folks also didn't understand the risks of actually getting covid and favored a bigger risk over a smaller risk. But they needed to be able to make that choice, good or bad, on their own and some weren't. I cannot really blame someone who never wanted to get it and then had their quality of life compromised (or a family member die) after being forced for being really upset and lashing out.
In this day and age, correct/good/accurate/honest information is harder to come by than ever but we were duped. Myself included...sure, maybe I could have looked harder into it, but when all I hear is "It's going to kill you" and "they're safe" I chose to trust the less fear-mongering people and those that seemed (and maybe even were) less politically motivated. But there should have been a lot more "they're generally safe, but..." from them.0 -
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/authorities-drugmaker-paid-off-doctors-lied-insurance-companies/story?id=61488372Go Beavers said:
Moderna hadn’t put anything out prior to Covid, and it was Merck who was fudging the data on Vioxx. I don’t know who was sprinkling fentanyl in prescription drugs.AW124797 said:Go Beavers said:
How do you think your link applies to the Covid vaccine? And can you define ‘Big Pharma”? What’s the threshold?AW124797 said:
Do you work for big pharma by any chance? Serious question. Or Pfizer shareholder, perhaps?Halifax2TheMax said:If you want to learn, consider the source from which will teach you. To claim some of the related heart issues haven’t been reported upon or that it’s not allowed, is well, poppycock.
36 out of a million. Both heart conditions can also be caused by influenza or another type of vaccine or viral infection. Again, consider the source from which you get your information to learn from.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html
https://www.drugwatch.com/featured/clinical-trials-and-hidden-data/
These are the same criminals that pushed vioxx, escalated oxy and sprinkled fentanyl into prescription drugs here and there. How can we trust them with covid vaccine studies if they do the research themselves?
And the one from yesterday is pretty interesting:
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The second link is interesting. Insys doesn’t have anything to do with the Covid vaccine though.AW124797 said:
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/authorities-drugmaker-paid-off-doctors-lied-insurance-companies/story?id=61488372Go Beavers said:
Moderna hadn’t put anything out prior to Covid, and it was Merck who was fudging the data on Vioxx. I don’t know who was sprinkling fentanyl in prescription drugs.AW124797 said:Go Beavers said:
How do you think your link applies to the Covid vaccine? And can you define ‘Big Pharma”? What’s the threshold?AW124797 said:
Do you work for big pharma by any chance? Serious question. Or Pfizer shareholder, perhaps?Halifax2TheMax said:If you want to learn, consider the source from which will teach you. To claim some of the related heart issues haven’t been reported upon or that it’s not allowed, is well, poppycock.
36 out of a million. Both heart conditions can also be caused by influenza or another type of vaccine or viral infection. Again, consider the source from which you get your information to learn from.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html
https://www.drugwatch.com/featured/clinical-trials-and-hidden-data/
These are the same criminals that pushed vioxx, escalated oxy and sprinkled fentanyl into prescription drugs here and there. How can we trust them with covid vaccine studies if they do the research themselves?
And the one from yesterday is pretty interesting:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/11/health/moderna-bivalent-transparency/index.html0 -
I may be wrong, but I think the point that AW124797 means to be inferring with the other article is that the motivating goal for Pharma companies is profits over people at any cost?Go Beavers said:
The second link is interesting. Insys doesn’t have anything to do with the Covid vaccine though.AW124797 said:
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/authorities-drugmaker-paid-off-doctors-lied-insurance-companies/story?id=61488372Go Beavers said:
Moderna hadn’t put anything out prior to Covid, and it was Merck who was fudging the data on Vioxx. I don’t know who was sprinkling fentanyl in prescription drugs.AW124797 said:Go Beavers said:
How do you think your link applies to the Covid vaccine? And can you define ‘Big Pharma”? What’s the threshold?AW124797 said:
Do you work for big pharma by any chance? Serious question. Or Pfizer shareholder, perhaps?Halifax2TheMax said:If you want to learn, consider the source from which will teach you. To claim some of the related heart issues haven’t been reported upon or that it’s not allowed, is well, poppycock.
36 out of a million. Both heart conditions can also be caused by influenza or another type of vaccine or viral infection. Again, consider the source from which you get your information to learn from.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html
https://www.drugwatch.com/featured/clinical-trials-and-hidden-data/
These are the same criminals that pushed vioxx, escalated oxy and sprinkled fentanyl into prescription drugs here and there. How can we trust them with covid vaccine studies if they do the research themselves?
And the one from yesterday is pretty interesting:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/11/health/moderna-bivalent-transparency/index.htmlScio me nihil scire
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