So wait, the whole thing hinges on the verb used in Dr. Andersson's email...from Feb of 2020? Did anyone ask the doctor what he meant by the verb "disproved" and whether it was inarticulate emailing or to be taken literally?
Second, we all said here that we are willing to let the US gov't research and determine the origin. I don't think anyone has a personal stake in where it originated. At the end of the day, it left a million Americans dead, regardless of whether it was lab or not. If it was a lab, it becomes a geopolitical issue, not a medical or science one.
Wait, why should we wait US gov to tell us what happened??.. huge difference if it comes from lab..
In the US, that's our primary resource of trust. It's not like I have the data and access to classified information to make a sound judgment. I don't use You Tube and untethered speculation to inform my opinions. Should I wait for the Greek gov't to render an opinion? Will that be coming soon?
Υοu should definitely not waiting the Greek gov..lol..we don't trust them, you shouldn't either.. but your gov is so trustworthy??..the global super power who tell us what happened??.. and of course you mean the gov with specific president, right??..
What choice do you have? These people on the internet don't follow the scientific process. They don't have access to intelligence, confidential or secret information. If the British gov't made a determination, that would have some influence on me as well, same with the French. That doesn't mean I think they are 100% trustworthy or right all the time. But the alternative is some yahoo on You Tube. How is that better?
I mean, I think this really does get at a larger issue - we have a serious trust crisis. If we don't trust institutions, each other, the scientists, the controversialists, the media - do we just ignore experts and go our own ways and somehow hope for the best?
Can anyone stop this train?
I trust Fox news to give me the fair and balanced news everyday. That's how I know Kari Lake is the right gov of Arizona. And there is no such thing a lawsuit by Dominion against Fox.
Obviously I know this is a joke, but you have to recognize that for some people, every word of what you wrote is true.
Sadly I do. They have been radicalized. The interesting thing is that the gov't is no more diabolical than it ever was, in fact it is likely to be significantly more transparent. But we trusted them until Vietnam went wrong, and the Pentagon Papers, followed by Watergate, the Church committee, etc.
I don't have a solution to your question other than attempting to hold gov officials accountable through oversight and elections. The concept of a gov lying to the people is as old as civilization. It's not a harbinger of the downfall of society.
Sad indeed.
And not only have these people been radicalized, many have been beguiled to the point of delusion in believing the lies they are fed. Their being duped very much illustrates a number of things including a lack of a quality education, an pervasive inability to use critical thinking, and a tendency for masses of people to follow charismatic "leaders".
And like you say, they don't trust government. Instead, they prefer blind acceptance of those marginal radical authoritarian "leaders" whom they believe care for their them and have concern for their own good. History is repeating itself yet again.
Karl Marx clearly died his mustache.
Looks alive and well to me.
Fake news.
He Died Suddenly ™️ after taking the Moderna booster.
No, he died suddenly from covid after 4 Moderna boosters. Funnier and more probable.
So wait, the whole thing hinges on the verb used in Dr. Andersson's email...from Feb of 2020? Did anyone ask the doctor what he meant by the verb "disproved" and whether it was inarticulate emailing or to be taken literally?
Second, we all said here that we are willing to let the US gov't research and determine the origin. I don't think anyone has a personal stake in where it originated. At the end of the day, it left a million Americans dead, regardless of whether it was lab or not. If it was a lab, it becomes a geopolitical issue, not a medical or science one.
Wait, why should we wait US gov to tell us what happened??.. huge difference if it comes from lab..
In the US, that's our primary resource of trust. It's not like I have the data and access to classified information to make a sound judgment. I don't use You Tube and untethered speculation to inform my opinions. Should I wait for the Greek gov't to render an opinion? Will that be coming soon?
Υοu should definitely not waiting the Greek gov..lol..we don't trust them, you shouldn't either.. but your gov is so trustworthy??..the global super power who tell us what happened??.. and of course you mean the gov with specific president, right??..
What choice do you have? These people on the internet don't follow the scientific process. They don't have access to intelligence, confidential or secret information. If the British gov't made a determination, that would have some influence on me as well, same with the French. That doesn't mean I think they are 100% trustworthy or right all the time. But the alternative is some yahoo on You Tube. How is that better?
I mean, I think this really does get at a larger issue - we have a serious trust crisis. If we don't trust institutions, each other, the scientists, the controversialists, the media - do we just ignore experts and go our own ways and somehow hope for the best?
Can anyone stop this train?
I trust Fox news to give me the fair and balanced news everyday. That's how I know Kari Lake is the right gov of Arizona. And there is no such thing a lawsuit by Dominion against Fox.
Obviously I know this is a joke, but you have to recognize that for some people, every word of what you wrote is true.
Sadly I do. They have been radicalized. The interesting thing is that the gov't is no more diabolical than it ever was, in fact it is likely to be significantly more transparent. But we trusted them until Vietnam went wrong, and the Pentagon Papers, followed by Watergate, the Church committee, etc.
I don't have a solution to your question other than attempting to hold gov officials accountable through oversight and elections. The concept of a gov lying to the people is as old as civilization. It's not a harbinger of the downfall of society.
Sad indeed.
And not only have these people been radicalized, many have been beguiled to the point of delusion in believing the lies they are fed. Their being duped very much illustrates a number of things including a lack of a quality education, an pervasive inability to use critical thinking, and a tendency for masses of people to follow charismatic "leaders".
And like you say, they don't trust government. Instead, they prefer blind acceptance of those marginal radical authoritarian "leaders" whom they believe care for their them and have concern for their own good. History is repeating itself yet again.
Karl Marx clearly died his mustache.
Looks alive and well to me.
Fake news.
He Died Suddenly ™️ after taking the Moderna booster.
No, he died suddenly from covid after 4 Moderna boosters. Funnier and more probable.
So wait, the whole thing hinges on the verb used in Dr. Andersson's email...from Feb of 2020? Did anyone ask the doctor what he meant by the verb "disproved" and whether it was inarticulate emailing or to be taken literally?
Second, we all said here that we are willing to let the US gov't research and determine the origin. I don't think anyone has a personal stake in where it originated. At the end of the day, it left a million Americans dead, regardless of whether it was lab or not. If it was a lab, it becomes a geopolitical issue, not a medical or science one.
Wait, why should we wait US gov to tell us what happened??.. huge difference if it comes from lab..
In the US, that's our primary resource of trust. It's not like I have the data and access to classified information to make a sound judgment. I don't use You Tube and untethered speculation to inform my opinions. Should I wait for the Greek gov't to render an opinion? Will that be coming soon?
Υοu should definitely not waiting the Greek gov..lol..we don't trust them, you shouldn't either.. but your gov is so trustworthy??..the global super power who tell us what happened??.. and of course you mean the gov with specific president, right??..
What choice do you have? These people on the internet don't follow the scientific process. They don't have access to intelligence, confidential or secret information. If the British gov't made a determination, that would have some influence on me as well, same with the French. That doesn't mean I think they are 100% trustworthy or right all the time. But the alternative is some yahoo on You Tube. How is that better?
I mean, I think this really does get at a larger issue - we have a serious trust crisis. If we don't trust institutions, each other, the scientists, the controversialists, the media - do we just ignore experts and go our own ways and somehow hope for the best?
Can anyone stop this train?
I trust Fox news to give me the fair and balanced news everyday. That's how I know Kari Lake is the right gov of Arizona. And there is no such thing a lawsuit by Dominion against Fox.
Obviously I know this is a joke, but you have to recognize that for some people, every word of what you wrote is true.
Sadly I do. They have been radicalized. The interesting thing is that the gov't is no more diabolical than it ever was, in fact it is likely to be significantly more transparent. But we trusted them until Vietnam went wrong, and the Pentagon Papers, followed by Watergate, the Church committee, etc.
I don't have a solution to your question other than attempting to hold gov officials accountable through oversight and elections. The concept of a gov lying to the people is as old as civilization. It's not a harbinger of the downfall of society.
Sad indeed.
And not only have these people been radicalized, many have been beguiled to the point of delusion in believing the lies they are fed. Their being duped very much illustrates a number of things including a lack of a quality education, an pervasive inability to use critical thinking, and a tendency for masses of people to follow charismatic "leaders".
And like you say, they don't trust government. Instead, they prefer blind acceptance of those marginal radical authoritarian "leaders" whom they believe care for their them and have concern for their own good. History is repeating itself yet again.
Karl Marx clearly died his mustache.
Looks alive and well to me.
Fake news.
It Dyed Suddenly ™️ after taking the Moderna booster.
So wait, the whole thing hinges on the verb used in Dr. Andersson's email...from Feb of 2020? Did anyone ask the doctor what he meant by the verb "disproved" and whether it was inarticulate emailing or to be taken literally?
Second, we all said here that we are willing to let the US gov't research and determine the origin. I don't think anyone has a personal stake in where it originated. At the end of the day, it left a million Americans dead, regardless of whether it was lab or not. If it was a lab, it becomes a geopolitical issue, not a medical or science one.
Wait, why should we wait US gov to tell us what happened??.. huge difference if it comes from lab..
In the US, that's our primary resource of trust. It's not like I have the data and access to classified information to make a sound judgment. I don't use You Tube and untethered speculation to inform my opinions. Should I wait for the Greek gov't to render an opinion? Will that be coming soon?
Υοu should definitely not waiting the Greek gov..lol..we don't trust them, you shouldn't either.. but your gov is so trustworthy??..the global super power who tell us what happened??.. and of course you mean the gov with specific president, right??..
What choice do you have? These people on the internet don't follow the scientific process. They don't have access to intelligence, confidential or secret information. If the British gov't made a determination, that would have some influence on me as well, same with the French. That doesn't mean I think they are 100% trustworthy or right all the time. But the alternative is some yahoo on You Tube. How is that better?
I mean, I think this really does get at a larger issue - we have a serious trust crisis. If we don't trust institutions, each other, the scientists, the controversialists, the media - do we just ignore experts and go our own ways and somehow hope for the best?
Can anyone stop this train?
I trust Fox news to give me the fair and balanced news everyday. That's how I know Kari Lake is the right gov of Arizona. And there is no such thing a lawsuit by Dominion against Fox.
Obviously I know this is a joke, but you have to recognize that for some people, every word of what you wrote is true.
Sadly I do. They have been radicalized. The interesting thing is that the gov't is no more diabolical than it ever was, in fact it is likely to be significantly more transparent. But we trusted them until Vietnam went wrong, and the Pentagon Papers, followed by Watergate, the Church committee, etc.
I don't have a solution to your question other than attempting to hold gov officials accountable through oversight and elections. The concept of a gov lying to the people is as old as civilization. It's not a harbinger of the downfall of society.
Sad indeed.
And not only have these people been radicalized, many have been beguiled to the point of delusion in believing the lies they are fed. Their being duped very much illustrates a number of things including a lack of a quality education, an pervasive inability to use critical thinking, and a tendency for masses of people to follow charismatic "leaders".
And like you say, they don't trust government. Instead, they prefer blind acceptance of those marginal radical authoritarian "leaders" whom they believe care for their them and have concern for their own good. History is repeating itself yet again.
Karl Marx clearly died his mustache.
Looks alive and well to me.
Fake news.
It Dyed Suddenly ™️ after taking the Moderna booster.
So wait, the whole thing hinges on the verb used in Dr. Andersson's email...from Feb of 2020? Did anyone ask the doctor what he meant by the verb "disproved" and whether it was inarticulate emailing or to be taken literally?
Second, we all said here that we are willing to let the US gov't research and determine the origin. I don't think anyone has a personal stake in where it originated. At the end of the day, it left a million Americans dead, regardless of whether it was lab or not. If it was a lab, it becomes a geopolitical issue, not a medical or science one.
Wait, why should we wait US gov to tell us what happened??.. huge difference if it comes from lab..
In the US, that's our primary resource of trust. It's not like I have the data and access to classified information to make a sound judgment. I don't use You Tube and untethered speculation to inform my opinions. Should I wait for the Greek gov't to render an opinion? Will that be coming soon?
Υοu should definitely not waiting the Greek gov..lol..we don't trust them, you shouldn't either.. but your gov is so trustworthy??..the global super power who tell us what happened??.. and of course you mean the gov with specific president, right??..
What choice do you have? These people on the internet don't follow the scientific process. They don't have access to intelligence, confidential or secret information. If the British gov't made a determination, that would have some influence on me as well, same with the French. That doesn't mean I think they are 100% trustworthy or right all the time. But the alternative is some yahoo on You Tube. How is that better?
I mean, I think this really does get at a larger issue - we have a serious trust crisis. If we don't trust institutions, each other, the scientists, the controversialists, the media - do we just ignore experts and go our own ways and somehow hope for the best?
Can anyone stop this train?
I trust Fox news to give me the fair and balanced news everyday. That's how I know Kari Lake is the right gov of Arizona. And there is no such thing a lawsuit by Dominion against Fox.
Obviously I know this is a joke, but you have to recognize that for some people, every word of what you wrote is true.
Sadly I do. They have been radicalized. The interesting thing is that the gov't is no more diabolical than it ever was, in fact it is likely to be significantly more transparent. But we trusted them until Vietnam went wrong, and the Pentagon Papers, followed by Watergate, the Church committee, etc.
I don't have a solution to your question other than attempting to hold gov officials accountable through oversight and elections. The concept of a gov lying to the people is as old as civilization. It's not a harbinger of the downfall of society.
Sad indeed.
And not only have these people been radicalized, many have been beguiled to the point of delusion in believing the lies they are fed. Their being duped very much illustrates a number of things including a lack of a quality education, an pervasive inability to use critical thinking, and a tendency for masses of people to follow charismatic "leaders".
And like you say, they don't trust government. Instead, they prefer blind acceptance of those marginal radical authoritarian "leaders" whom they believe care for their them and have concern for their own good. History is repeating itself yet again.
Karl Marx clearly died his mustache.
Looks alive and well to me.
Fake news.
He Died Suddenly ™️ after taking the Moderna booster.
No, he died suddenly from covid after 4 Moderna boosters. Funnier and more probable.
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from a guy who's "leadership" at cdc led to the most basic lab protocols not being followed leading to the initial covid test kits by cdc on his watch being contaminated.
he sold out any credibility by sucking fucksticks ass.
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This exchange is what's called innuendo. This isnt anywhere near "proof". It isn't proof that it came from a lab, that Fauci knew or that a research grant influenced anyone. It's innuendo.
NEWSFLASH: most of us didn’t discredit the theory of a lab leak; we acknowledged it was always a possibility; what we decried was the notion of a “purposeful” lab leak. But yes, of course, that was and is always a possibility, just not the prevailing one.
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NEWSFLASH: most of us didn’t discredit the theory of a lab leak; we acknowledged it was always a possibility; what we decried was the notion of a “purposeful” lab leak. But yes, of course, that was and is always a possibility, just not the prevailing one.
and the result is the same, close to 7 million dead
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
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I really want to get the latest booster and yet I really don't.
My only reason not to is that at 71+, I'm trying to keep moving. I walk every day (only missed 6 days last year, none this year)- walks average one to one and a half miles, sometimes two or three. I hate the idea of missing a walk day!
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NEWSFLASH: most of us didn’t discredit the theory of a lab leak; we acknowledged it was always a possibility; what we decried was the notion of a “purposeful” lab leak. But yes, of course, that was and is always a possibility, just not the prevailing one.
Oh really???..i remember otherwise..
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NEWSFLASH: most of us didn’t discredit the theory of a lab leak; we acknowledged it was always a possibility; what we decried was the notion of a “purposeful” lab leak. But yes, of course, that was and is always a possibility, just not the prevailing one.
and the result is the same, close to 7 million dead
7 million dead from terrorist attack you mean..
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64891745
https://oversight.house.gov/release/covid-origins-hearing-wrap-up-facts-science-evidence-point-to-a-wuhan-lab-leak/
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Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
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This exchange is what's called innuendo. This isnt anywhere near "proof". It isn't proof that it came from a lab, that Fauci knew or that a research grant influenced anyone. It's innuendo.
-EV 8/14/93
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..