How long before Ed postpones his tour?

Eddieshometown

Chicago is being cautious.  They now require proof of vaccination or negative test for eating in doors and most entertainment venues.  We will see if that helps.  I keep hearing cloth masks don’t help much.

OceansJenny

nicknyr15 said:

Prices coming down for Beacon. Seems I’ll be able to get in, of course if these dates actually go forward. 

Yes I have been watching this too! Only a matter of time.

NewJPage

hihobibo said:

It's a cycle. In the summer, FL was being bashed because of the high number of cases. Now it's happening up north. As more people go indoors (in the hot Florida summers and cold northern winters) the cases will increase.

We need to stop being so reactionary and use common sense to learn how to live with this on going pandemic. 

Florida cases are up 818% over the past 2 weeks, 2nd highest in the US

Patrick_Sea3

CROJAM95 said:

Omicron will pass in a few weeks

once holiday madness over

game on

It’s not going to pass in a few weeks, Delta didn’t pass in a few weeks, the best we can hope for that Omicron takes over and is less severe.

3days

Florida just set a record for their new cases in a single day, worse than before we had any vaccine. This wave could very well be less severe and short lived. Even so, it still holds potential to overwhelm hospitals, and directly or indirectly kill thousands. 

Music is important. I'm looking forward to these shows. If the shows get postponed due to safety concerns, so be it. Some things are more important.

Merkin Baller

3days said:

Florida just set a record for their new cases in a single day, worse than before we had any vaccine. This wave could very well be less severe and short lived. Even so, it still holds potential to overwhelm hospitals, and directly or indirectly kill thousands. 

Music is important. I'm looking forward to these shows. If the shows get postponed due to safety concerns, so be it. Some things are more important.

Same for MA & NY. January's going to be crazy. 

static111

If the shows get cancelled, do Platinum tickets only get refunded at face value?

TH113769

Per data models which have been very accurate in the past, omicron has peaked in NYC as of toady (12/27) and will peak nationwide as of 1/9/22.  The tour is not getting postponed.  The stock market, which is always forward looking, is at all time highs projecting minimal economic slowing.  Live Nation stock is through the roof - if there was going to be some mass tour cancellations it would be reflected in their stock price. I really feel bad for all the doomsday people who watch certain news networks 24 X 7 who were the same people saying even Ohana wouldn't happen.  Look at data on outcomes (versus cases), especially if you are vaccinated, and if you still think you should live in your basement well that is your right, but the health threat of this virus to vaccinated and boosted people so extremely minimal its time to use some common sense and not let certain government officials who have a vested interest in keeping people scared.  Again, for those who want to stay home, please do - more tickets and better seats for me.  Happy New Year and cheers to seeing at least 20 PJ / ED shows in 2022!

3days

TH113769 said:

Per data models which have been very accurate in the past, omicron has peaked in NYC as of toady (12/27) and will peak nationwide as of 1/9/22.  The tour is not getting postponed.  The stock market, which is always forward looking, is at all time highs projecting minimal economic slowing.  Live Nation stock is through the roof - if there was going to be some mass tour cancellations it would be reflected in their stock price. I really feel bad for all the doomsday people who watch certain news networks 24 X 7 who were the same people saying even Ohana wouldn't happen.  Look at data on outcomes (versus cases), especially if you are vaccinated, and if you still think you should live in your basement well that is your right, but the health threat of this virus to vaccinated and boosted people so extremely minimal its time to use some common sense and not let certain government officials who have a vested interest in keeping people scared.  Again, for those who want to stay home, please do - more tickets and better seats for me.  Happy New Year and cheers to seeing at least 20 PJ / ED shows in 2022!

Happy New Year! I hope you're right, and that it will mitigate in 8 weeks or less. I also hope that the tour works out.
However, being cautious doesn't necessarily mean hiding in one's basement. I go to work. I spent Christmas with family. I go to the grocery store. I run errands. I don't even have a basement. What I've chosen to do is not hang out in crowded bars, restaurants, theaters, etc while the pandemic is spiking. I've also chosen to wear a mask in public places, and maintain distance from people when possible.
I can't speak to the vested interest of public officials, except that they seem to have a vested interest in the economy returning to a pre pandemic state. Most local officials seem to not want to have ominously high COVID numbers in their areas. 

DEGBTI

TH113769 said:

Per data models which have been very accurate in the past, omicron has peaked in NYC as of toady (12/27) and will peak nationwide as of 1/9/22.  The tour is not getting postponed.  The stock market, which is always forward looking, is at all time highs projecting minimal economic slowing.  Live Nation stock is through the roof - if there was going to be some mass tour cancellations it would be reflected in their stock price. I really feel bad for all the doomsday people who watch certain news networks 24 X 7 who were the same people saying even Ohana wouldn't happen.  Look at data on outcomes (versus cases), especially if you are vaccinated, and if you still think you should live in your basement well that is your right, but the health threat of this virus to vaccinated and boosted people so extremely minimal its time to use some common sense and not let certain government officials who have a vested interest in keeping people scared.  Again, for those who want to stay home, please do - more tickets and better seats for me.  Happy New Year and cheers to seeing at least 20 PJ / ED shows in 2022!

nice post, I agree 100%. Thanks for posting!

Go Animal

Not sure if the whole tour will get cancelled/postponed, but I can see the tour dates shifted in reverse order, or the NY/NJ shows postponed all together. That's not doom & gloom: that's reality.

Tim Simmons

TH113769 said:

 use some common sense and not let certain government officials who have a vested interest in keeping people scared.  

The rest of your post is logical and true, but this is always a silly and cynical take.

TH113769

Tim Simmons said:

TH113769 said:

 use some common sense and not let certain government officials who have a vested interest in keeping people scared.  

The rest of your post is logical and true, but this is always a silly and cynical take.

At a minimum it would be nice if our government officials would give us factual data about the virus so people can make informed decisions given their own risk profile.  

THEBIBLEISTEN

The govt has a vested interest in keeping people scared? Your post is cringey at best. Maybe the reason the pandemic is going strong is because of these mass gatherings and people being in these indoor tight spaces. I’m glad your happy about having better seats at a show, but there is bigger priorities right now, like trying to keep people alive. Your post comes across as ignorant. You got fools using fake vaccine cards and don’t give 2 shits if they infect anyone. 

WesC

TH113769 said:

Per data models which have been very accurate in the past, omicron has peaked in NYC as of toady (12/27) and will peak nationwide as of 1/9/22.  The tour is not getting postponed.  The stock market, which is always forward looking, is at all time highs projecting minimal economic slowing.  Live Nation stock is through the roof - if there was going to be some mass tour cancellations it would be reflected in their stock price. I really feel bad for all the doomsday people who watch certain news networks 24 X 7 who were the same people saying even Ohana wouldn't happen.  Look at data on outcomes (versus cases), especially if you are vaccinated, and if you still think you should live in your basement well that is your right, but the health threat of this virus to vaccinated and boosted people so extremely minimal its time to use some common sense and not let certain government officials who have a vested interest in keeping people scared.  Again, for those who want to stay home, please do - more tickets and better seats for me.  Happy New Year and cheers to seeing at least 20 PJ / ED shows in 2022!

Well said.  I don't think this post is "cringey" or "ignorant".  It's crazy that people can't have a different opinion about something without being attacked personally.  Now that's ignorant, in my opinion.

hihobibo

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

The govt has a vested interest in keeping people scared? 

The government controls their citizens in many ways, fear being one of them. I don't care what country you live in, never fully trust your government. In the US, this current "celebrity" status of our government officials is troubling, and the way people are blindly following party lines is scary. THINK for yourselves, and much like a documentary, don't believe everything the entertainment news feeds you. 

I have been to indoor and outdoor events, amusement parks, vacations, airports, and go to work in an office every day, have my kids participate in school, and shop in stores, and I follow the common sense things that has been consistent through the pandemic: wear my mask indoors, give people space, and wash my hands. I got the vaccines, and I have never felt like I have been exposed to the virus because I take these precautions. 

So go to these shows, have fun, and do what makes you feel safe. If that means staying home, then do it. But life comes at you once, so don't live in fear because your "leaders" told you to do something. You know how this works by now, its been two years. 

TH113769

hihobibo said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

The govt has a vested interest in keeping people scared? 

The government controls their citizens in many ways, fear being one of them. I don't care what country you live in, never fully trust your government. In the US, this current "celebrity" status of our government officials is troubling, and the way people are blindly following party lines is scary. THINK for yourselves, and much like a documentary, don't believe everything the entertainment news feeds you. 

I have been to indoor and outdoor events, amusement parks, vacations, airports, and go to work in an office every day, have my kids participate in school, and shop in stores, and I follow the common sense things that has been consistent through the pandemic: wear my mask indoors, give people space, and wash my hands. I got the vaccines, and I have never felt like I have been exposed to the virus because I take these precautions. 

So go to these shows, have fun, and do what makes you feel safe. If that means staying home, then do it. But life comes at you once, so don't live in fear because your "leaders" told you to do something. You know how this works by now, its been two years. 

Fauci definitely has a vested interest and the big pharma lobby has major influence in DC.  Politicians also love control, and once you have control its very hard to give that up.  The government should be mass publicizing the data on outcomes by age group, vax status, and pre-existing conditions, therefore people can decide their own risk with real data.  There should also be a discussion on how healthy lifestyles greatly mitigate the severity of Covid.  Instead it is get vaccinated or "death and destruction awaits you" (actual White House statement).  I'm double vaxed plus boosted (and very pro-vax), but that statement from our government is just not true and made to instill fear.  

THEBIBLEISTEN

WesC said:

TH113769 said:

Per data models which have been very accurate in the past, omicron has peaked in NYC as of toady (12/27) and will peak nationwide as of 1/9/22.  The tour is not getting postponed.  The stock market, which is always forward looking, is at all time highs projecting minimal economic slowing.  Live Nation stock is through the roof - if there was going to be some mass tour cancellations it would be reflected in their stock price. I really feel bad for all the doomsday people who watch certain news networks 24 X 7 who were the same people saying even Ohana wouldn't happen.  Look at data on outcomes (versus cases), especially if you are vaccinated, and if you still think you should live in your basement well that is your right, but the health threat of this virus to vaccinated and boosted people so extremely minimal its time to use some common sense and not let certain government officials who have a vested interest in keeping people scared.  Again, for those who want to stay home, please do - more tickets and better seats for me.  Happy New Year and cheers to seeing at least 20 PJ / ED shows in 2022!

Well said.  I don't think this post is "cringey" or "ignorant".  It's crazy that people can't have a different opinion about something without being attacked personally.  Now that's ignorant, in my opinion.

Who was personally attacked? Read my post again. Read and comprehend then reply. 

Lost In Ohio

Honestly, what I want to know is where the hell this "people are still hiding in their basement" mindset is coming from. OANN? Fox? InfoWars?

I've been out and about for the vast majority of the year in crowds.

Yes. We were supposed to stay home last year. Is this just another case of conservatives being behind the times? Many of them were the ones who got upset when Hillary wore pants and who get upset with things like gender-neutral lifestyles. So maybe it is conservative hype that "OMGZ! People are still scaredy-cats!"

Because everyone was a bit protective. Last fucking year.

NewJPage

TH113769 said:

hihobibo said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

The govt has a vested interest in keeping people scared? 

The government controls their citizens in many ways, fear being one of them. I don't care what country you live in, never fully trust your government. In the US, this current "celebrity" status of our government officials is troubling, and the way people are blindly following party lines is scary. THINK for yourselves, and much like a documentary, don't believe everything the entertainment news feeds you. 

I have been to indoor and outdoor events, amusement parks, vacations, airports, and go to work in an office every day, have my kids participate in school, and shop in stores, and I follow the common sense things that has been consistent through the pandemic: wear my mask indoors, give people space, and wash my hands. I got the vaccines, and I have never felt like I have been exposed to the virus because I take these precautions. 

So go to these shows, have fun, and do what makes you feel safe. If that means staying home, then do it. But life comes at you once, so don't live in fear because your "leaders" told you to do something. You know how this works by now, its been two years. 

Fauci definitely has a vested interest and the big pharma lobby has major influence in DC.  Politicians also love control, and once you have control its very hard to give that up.  The government should be mass publicizing the data on outcomes by age group, vax status, and pre-existing conditions, therefore people can decide their own risk with real data.  There should also be a discussion on how healthy lifestyles greatly mitigate the severity of Covid.  Instead it is get vaccinated or "death and destruction awaits you" (actual White House statement).  I'm double vaxed plus boosted (and very pro-vax), but that statement from our government is just not true and made to instill fear.  

All of that info is published by the government, and that is not an "actual White House statement."