PJ fans in 12 step Recovery

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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    suboxone
    anyone have any experience with this drug?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,359
    chadwick wrote:
    suboxone
    anyone have any experience with this drug?
    no experience but I understand it can go a long way to help get through opiate withdrawal.
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  • bambam87
    bambam87 Posts: 545
    I know the answer isn't a simple one, but how can u help somebody that doesn't want to be helped?
    just had to physically remove my brother from my parents house...again
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,359
    bambam87 wrote:
    I know the answer isn't a simple one, but how can u help somebody that doesn't want to be helped?
    just had to physically remove my brother from my parents house...again
    You can't really. What you can do that may in the end help is to protect yourselves from him by cutting him off for you all. Difficult to do but as lnong as he has a soft spot to land nothing likely to change.

    Look into Alanon at least online, you and your parents may get some dire3ction and help for yourselves on how to better deal with him.


    I vote cut him loose. Best thing that happend FOR me. To him it will seem like TO him but if he gets moving in a different direction that veiwpoint will probably change
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mydogmookieblaylock
    mydogmookieblaylock Posts: 2,996
    they handed me Ed's wine at LA night 2 - i was a little confused and shocked but handed it back and said i don't drink anymore -- got some shit from a couple people about how i should at least taste it - at which point i explained "one taste and by morning it will be hookers and blow in Vegas"
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,359
    mydogmookieblaylock wrote:
    they handed me Ed's wine at LA night 2 - i was a little confused and shocked but handed it back and said i don't drink anymore -- got some shit from a couple people about how i should at least taste it - at which point i explained "one taste and by morning it will be hookers and blow in Vegas"
    Good for you on both the experience and your decision. I really like that answer too!!
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • bambam87
    bambam87 Posts: 545
    mickeyrat wrote:
    bambam87 wrote:
    I know the answer isn't a simple one, but how can u help somebody that doesn't want to be helped?
    just had to physically remove my brother from my parents house...again
    You can't really. What you can do that may in the end help is to protect yourselves from him by cutting him off for you all. Difficult to do but as lnong as he has a soft spot to land nothing likely to change.

    Look into Alanon at least online, you and your parents may get some dire3ction and help for yourselves on how to better deal with him.


    I vote cut him loose. Best thing that happend FOR me. To him it will seem like TO him but if he gets moving in a different direction that veiwpoint will probably change


    yea, kinda knew the answer I guess.

    I cut him off months ago when he laughed about alanon. think my parents just got to there breaking point last night. he doesn't live there, but got thrown out of his gf's and doesn't have any friends...or a job. so I guess this should be the rock bottom moment....
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,359
    Might be one. Sounds like he's in a right good spot for it.

    Good luck to your family. Happy to listen or help anyway I can.
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,359
    Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays to everyone. Hope your day was filled with love and laughter.
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,359
    And they say change is good..........
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,359
    mickeyrat said:

    And they say change is good..........

    And yes, yes it is. Little did I know 8 years ago today, that on the 18th I would make a decision that has changed my life in ways I could not even imagine. Man........what a ride its been so far!!!!
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    mickeyrat said:

    mickeyrat said:

    And they say change is good..........

    And yes, yes it is. Little did I know 8 years ago today, that on the 18th I would make a decision that has changed my life in ways I could not even imagine. Man........what a ride its been so far!!!!
    Congrats on 8 years! That is awesome!



    =D> :) <:-P
  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    edited April 2014
    I knew there had to be a FOB (and FOB offshoot) thread on here!!

    Hi - I'm Nancy and I've been in recovery for 17 years, 5 months, 1 week and 6 days, by the grace of God (i'm not religious, but i cannot speak about sobriety without adding that or 'godwilling' when talking about an upcoming anniversary. It just feels wrong. I am spiritual, i think we kind of have to be.). It took about 3 years, the end of a marriage, the end of an awesome career and a 1995 tour of Northeastern Rehabs/Psych Wards before the rooms got me (I have always thought WAY too much, so it was during a time of tragedy, when my mind was numb that, instead of turning to the bottle, I surrendered, without thought).

    I always looked at people who had more than a couple of years, when i was trying to get more than a day or two in a row together, and I thought that they were all lying. I could not believe that someone would actually remain sober for that long. I just thought that once i got passed how bad things had gotten, I would be able to go back to being 'normal'. Thankfully, that bit of denial went away quickly.

    I was interested in mydogmookieblaylock's story of being handed the bottle at a show and the ensuing details. I am new to the board, but not to PJ. I have never seen them live, which is something I am going to remedy as soon as possible. And I've thought about that exact situation; being handed a bottle and not seeming like an ungrateful asshole. Thanks for your story.

    Life has been very difficult lately - I've lost my dad & brother in sobriety; but my sister who has always been there to school me on real life at pivotal points, who finally got pregnant the day i had my son and then they had another child - so we have been raising our kids together since they are all 1 year apart; the person who i could tell anything or just say one word and understood volumes and who i also fought with like two bull-headed Irish women can do; my dear sister Patty died in September - one day we were down the shore (Jersey) and two months later she was dead of cancer. My son, who i raised as a single mother for 15 years, and who has brought me more joy than i can ever explain, started high school and began to see his father. Simply put, it's illegal and so detrimental. We have no relationship, his life is spinning out of control and he has special needs which are not being met. I am his sole legal parent and have tried everything before going to the court, so as not to screw him up more. But I have no other recourse now.

    The two situations have brought me to my knees in much the same way drinking did. Difference being, I can remember everything and (frequently) make good choices. I have also acted out of sheer raw emotion, which is not a very sober thing to do.

    I haven't been to a meeting in a long time, i can list excuses, but i fell out of the routine while raising my son and it really is something that becomes habit - either going or not going I went daily for 10 years and then a couple times a week, but about 5 years ago I went to a meeting, shared about my brother and never went back.. I can feel my emotions taking control of my actions and reactions more and more. I am in desperate need of restoration of sanity. So I found you guys, posted this and I'm calling a friend and hitting a meeting this weekend. I know that feeling, when leaving a meeting, where being overwhelmed has been lifted, and I don't know why i've waited so long (laziness, false pride?). Doesn't matter - i can only go forward, thank God.

    On a PJ related note - I've been listening to Present Tense a lot lately - kick myself in the ass to get my life back on track. Or as i saw in a video - EV described the song as being 'scared alive'. I completely get that - I'm sick of existing and not living - i've been here before and i deserve more, we all do.

    Thanks for giving me a forum to share, I hope i followed the rules of this thread. I'd be interested to know if people attend meetings together while travelling to shows. I've done that before while travelling for music, vacation, work, etc. Anything that you can enlighten me with is always appreciated.

    Oops, almost forgot to congratulate mickeyrat on 8 years! Good for you! =D>



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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    what about when ed hands a nondrinker a bottle of wine, that person pours a few swigs of the wine over their head? i think that is what i'd do.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,359
    pass it on and pull out my 24 hour medallion and toss it to Ed. Then point to Mike and say I'm like him.
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    chadwick said:

    what about when ed hands a nondrinker a bottle of wine, that person pours a few swigs of the wine over their head? i think that is what i'd do.

    I would probably wind up pissing someone off - i don't think i could pull that off in an appropriate way - but i know someone could. Thanks.
    mickeyrat said:

    pass it on and pull out my 24 hour medallion and toss it to Ed. Then point to Mike and say I'm like him.

    That is a great idea, you've obviously thought about this. I would just have to remember not to pass the coin, hand Ed the bottle and point to Ed telling Mike 'I'm just like him'. :D Thanks.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,359
    I have to say, it lifts the spirit. Today a poster on the boards is celebrating 60 days. Not going to out them as its there choice to post in here or not. Have been in regular contact via PM. Its been important to my sobriety helping as I am able. Another former poster in here is coming up on 5 years in Sept!!!!

    And to think, I only wanted to know if there were folks like me here. Had no clue some might be inspired to look at themselves and make a positive change for themselves.
    Am immensely grateful for the ways in which HP can work.

    trips me the fuck out!!!!
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    If you read this, congrats on 60 days. That is something to be proud of. =D>
  • whispering hands
    whispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    This is the thread I was originally looking for, thanks for the redirect Hobbes!
    Nov. 5 makes four months for me! Can't wait to see what sober life holds!
  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    whispering hands said:

    This is the thread I was originally looking for, thanks for the redirect Hobbes!
    Nov. 5 makes four months for me! Can't wait to see what sober life holds!

    Congrats on 4 months :-bd

    Sooo... anything special happen today? Sarcasm! I know you quit your job today. Fuck them! Keep taking those punches. You have 4 months of sobriety! That is fucking awesome!

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