America's Gun Violence #2

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,953
    Clearly, more guns are the answer. They make everywhere and everyone so much safer. Sure do wish there were way more available with no restrictions.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,953
    More guns. That’s what this nation needs, more guns. Surely more guns will make us safer.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/14/us/milwaukee-shooting-nba-game/index.html
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,916
    So scary.  It can happen anywhere, any time. 
  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,715
    edited May 2022
    When’s the last time a black man walked into a predominantly white establishment shot and killed white people? 

    Maybe it’s just the white folks who need some gun restrictions.  

    So sad
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,780
    An 18 year old that full of hate, man, what the fuck? And he live streamed it. Don't let this pile of shit get any spotlight besides the announcement of his concurrent life sentences. Lets also take a look in to the influences that brought him to his hate filled views and punish them as well.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,780
    Also sounds like he wasn't from the area. Maybe his hero is Kyle Rittenhouse.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,744
    When’s the last time a black man walked into a predominantly white establishment shot and killed white people? 

    Maybe it’s just the white folks who need some gun restrictions.  

    So sad
    Cue the responses about black people killing each other in Chicago and other major cities with Democrat governments.

    But yes its usually white guys doing the mass shootings
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,614
    Trump…the gift that keeps on giving.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,417
    This country is fucked the division is palpable & disgusting the only ones found these mass shootings are white angry supremacy supporters their country is being taken away so let’s just get rid of folks who are not like them! Fuck me im done! 
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    When’s the last time a black man walked into a predominantly white establishment shot and killed white people? 

    Maybe it’s just the white folks who need some gun restrictions.  

    So sad
    Cue the responses about black people killing each other in Chicago and other major cities with Democrat governments.

    But yes its usually white guys doing the mass shootings
    republicans are already citing the one instance where a black man drove through a crowded street and killed a few people. like that is the same thing as the weekly mass shootings by white men.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    This country is fucked the division is palpable & disgusting the only ones found these mass shootings are white angry supremacy supporters their country is being taken away so let’s just get rid of folks who are not like them! Fuck me im done! 
    we are not the united states of america. we are now the divided tribes of america.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,744
    When’s the last time a black man walked into a predominantly white establishment shot and killed white people? 

    Maybe it’s just the white folks who need some gun restrictions.  

    So sad
    Cue the responses about black people killing each other in Chicago and other major cities with Democrat governments.

    But yes its usually white guys doing the mass shootings
    republicans are already citing the one instance where a black man drove through a crowded street and killed a few people. like that is the same thing as the weekly mass shootings by white men.
    The white guys with guns are afraid of being replaced 
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,417
    When’s the last time a black man walked into a predominantly white establishment shot and killed white people? 

    Maybe it’s just the white folks who need some gun restrictions.  

    So sad
    Cue the responses about black people killing each other in Chicago and other major cities with Democrat governments.

    But yes its usually white guys doing the mass shootings
    republicans are already citing the one instance where a black man drove through a crowded street and killed a few people. like that is the same thing as the weekly mass shootings by white men.
    The white guys with guns are afraid of being replaced 
    Unreal! There’s not a lot that will make me say yeah I wanna retire and spend the rest of my life in this country! I’m 61 getting ready to retire in two years and I’m def thinking about getting the fuck out of here! Yep they’ve won they want  minorities out of here I’ll have no problem leaving and taking my ass back to Chile..
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  • BF89905BF89905 Posts: 1,416
    I came across this in the news tonight - threw off my night as I'm trying to get work done. From the Toronto area..... this is sad and downright scary stuff. We're going backwards as humans..... the hate and callousness is so unsettling and rising.
    'Be safe, empathetic, and kind to people.
  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    Brought to you by the GQP



    You are subhuman at this point if you vote GQP.  Just facts now
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,404
    When’s the last time a black man walked into a predominantly white establishment shot and killed white people? 

    Maybe it’s just the white folks who need some gun restrictions.  

    So sad
    Cue the responses about black people killing each other in Chicago and other major cities with Democrat governments.

    But yes its usually white guys doing the mass shootings
    republicans are already citing the one instance where a black man drove through a crowded street and killed a few people. like that is the same thing as the weekly mass shootings by white men.
    Embarrassing watching both sides’ supporters keeping score. Like any of that should matter. 
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,947
    When’s the last time a black man walked into a predominantly white establishment shot and killed white people? 

    Maybe it’s just the white folks who need some gun restrictions.  

    So sad
    Cue the responses about black people killing each other in Chicago and other major cities with Democrat governments.

    But yes its usually white guys doing the mass shootings
    republicans are already citing the one instance where a black man drove through a crowded street and killed a few people. like that is the same thing as the weekly mass shootings by white men.
    The white guys with guns are afraid of being replaced 

    Yeah, New York Times mentioned this:
    "Around the same time, a manifesto attributed to him appeared online, repeatedly invoking the racist idea that white Americans were at risk of being replaced by people of color. The view is known as “replacement theory” and was once linked to the far-right fringe, but it has become increasingly mainstream."

    That bolded part is what I found even more disturbing.  If that be true, WTF is going to become of this country?  The thought makes me sick.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,744
    brianlux said:
    When’s the last time a black man walked into a predominantly white establishment shot and killed white people? 

    Maybe it’s just the white folks who need some gun restrictions.  

    So sad
    Cue the responses about black people killing each other in Chicago and other major cities with Democrat governments.

    But yes its usually white guys doing the mass shootings
    republicans are already citing the one instance where a black man drove through a crowded street and killed a few people. like that is the same thing as the weekly mass shootings by white men.
    The white guys with guns are afraid of being replaced 

    Yeah, New York Times mentioned this:
    "Around the same time, a manifesto attributed to him appeared online, repeatedly invoking the racist idea that white Americans were at risk of being replaced by people of color. The view is known as “replacement theory” and was once linked to the far-right fringe, but it has become increasingly mainstream."

    That bolded part is what I found even more disturbing.  If that be true, WTF is going to become of this country?  The thought makes me sick.

  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,086
    edited May 2022
    “Mentally Ill.”

    It’s a great way to downplay racism and protect the guns in only two words. Very efficient.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,424
    OnWis97 said:
    “Mentally Ill.”

    It’s a great way to downplay racism and protect the guns in only two words. Very efficient.
    It is true that mental health is an issue. But you are right in that some use it as the shiny object to move the attention away from the guns…and racism.

    Not to mention, if you are in government and want to blame or talk about mental health being the issue and then you do nothing to help it….you are part of the problem.




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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,424
    Smellyman said:
    Brought to you by the GQP



    You are subhuman at this point if you vote GQP.  Just facts now
    This kinda shit pisses me off though. Usually comes from the right…but more and more coming from the left
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,947
    Smellyman said:
    Brought to you by the GQP



    You are subhuman at this point if you vote GQP.  Just facts now
    This kinda shit pisses me off though. Usually comes from the right…but more and more coming from the left

    Yet is it not true the the Republican party in general has embraced all things Trump/QAnon/Radical right?
    We just got our mail in ballots for the June primaries and I told my wife that without a single doubt or hesitation, I will vote strictly Democratic party-line.  I generally do anyway but at least will give Republicans some consideration.  Not this time.  No way.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,715
    brianlux said:
    Smellyman said:
    Brought to you by the GQP



    You are subhuman at this point if you vote GQP.  Just facts now
    This kinda shit pisses me off though. Usually comes from the right…but more and more coming from the left

    Yet is it not true the the Republican party in general has embraced all things Trump/QAnon/Radical right?
    We just got our mail in ballots for the June primaries and I told my wife that without a single doubt or hesitation, I will vote strictly Democratic party-line.  I generally do anyway but at least will give Republicans some consideration.  Not this time.  No way.
    I was never one to hit the whole party button either and I’m struggling with what to do this election.  
  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,715
    brianlux said:
    When’s the last time a black man walked into a predominantly white establishment shot and killed white people? 

    Maybe it’s just the white folks who need some gun restrictions.  

    So sad
    Cue the responses about black people killing each other in Chicago and other major cities with Democrat governments.

    But yes its usually white guys doing the mass shootings
    republicans are already citing the one instance where a black man drove through a crowded street and killed a few people. like that is the same thing as the weekly mass shootings by white men.
    The white guys with guns are afraid of being replaced 

    Yeah, New York Times mentioned this:
    "Around the same time, a manifesto attributed to him appeared online, repeatedly invoking the racist idea that white Americans were at risk of being replaced by people of color. The view is known as “replacement theory” and was once linked to the far-right fringe, but it has become increasingly mainstream."

    That bolded part is what I found even more disturbing.  If that be true, WTF is going to become of this country?  The thought makes me sick.

    I’m not on Twitter but sometimes when you all post something from there us non participants can see others posts for a bit…..what a cesspool.  Made me sick to my stomach.  How do y’all read that crap day after day.

    I’m thinking that we were never really one united people. Not during wars, 911….never.  It feels like the racism has festered in hiding for centuries, taught to most from very young ages.  If all our elders were such a “great (the best according to most) generation” then how are we so filled with rage and hatred when it’s those people who raised us?  

    I don’t know how or if this ever gets resolved.  
  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,715
    More guns. That’s what this nation needs, more guns. Surely more guns will make us safer.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/14/us/milwaukee-shooting-nba-game/index.html
    I know it’s definitely not a laughing matter but your comments are outstanding and amusing 
  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,086
    brianlux said:
    Smellyman said:
    Brought to you by the GQP



    You are subhuman at this point if you vote GQP.  Just facts now
    This kinda shit pisses me off though. Usually comes from the right…but more and more coming from the left

    Yet is it not true the the Republican party in general has embraced all things Trump/QAnon/Radical right?
    We just got our mail in ballots for the June primaries and I told my wife that without a single doubt or hesitation, I will vote strictly Democratic party-line.  I generally do anyway but at least will give Republicans some consideration.  Not this time.  No way.
    I was never one to hit the whole party button either and I’m struggling with what to do this election.  
    “Vote blue, no matter who…”

    10 years ago I would have found that infuriating. Now  I live it.  I don’t feel like I have the luxury to examine stances and issues with the threat to vote 3rd.  Now it’s about maintaining the republic.  I once voted 3rd for Governor.  The GQP candidate in my state is nuts and I won’t even consider that voting for anyone but the incumbent Dem.
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,916
    Wonder what the parents were doing with all of this.  Clearly there were warning signs.  

    The internet.  So much disgusting stuff out there.  Without it this kid very likely  doesn’t do what he does.  
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    Wonder what the parents were doing with all of this.  Clearly there were warning signs.  

    The internet.  So much disgusting stuff out there.  Without it this kid very likely  doesn’t do what he does.  
    i read earlier that the parents are cooperating with police. there was a warning sign in june 2021 when the shooter threatened to do voilent acts at a high school graduation. he was sent for a mental health evaluation but i guess he passed that and was released.

    it isn't just the internet. tucker carlson endorses the replacement theory, as to actually sitting members of congress. 

    we have an information crisis in the country, in the sense that too many people are being fed bs conspiracy theories and outright lies and when confronted with the truth they simply refuse to believe it. we are in dangerous territory in this country.

    if the past is any predictor, this kind of thing will happen again and again and again.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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