America's Gun Violence #2

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,329
    Just practicing for when they can take an AR15 to high school.

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/20/us/illinois-child-shooting-2-injured/index.html
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,258
    Just practicing for when they can take an AR15 to high school.

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/20/us/illinois-child-shooting-2-injured/index.html
    good toddler with a gun.

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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,053
    Nailed 2 people with 1 shot. That kid is a marksman.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,645


    Get ready for lots of this...GOP politicians constantly pushing anti 2A bullshit gets these people thinking a gun solves everything
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,329


    Get ready for lots of this...GOP politicians constantly pushing anti 2A bullshit gets these people thinking a gun solves everything
    Someone with an AR15 should have busted a few caps in his ass. Where would it have gone had the folks who were shooting with their phone, shot with guns? Yee ha, ‘Murica!
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,258

     
    School shooter asks for mercy from life sentence; teacher, principal want him to stay in prison
    By Jeffrey Collins
    Today

    COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — A school shooter serving a life sentence without parole for killing a first grader on a South Carolina playground when he was 14 is asking a judge to lessen his sentence so he can eventually get out of prison.

    Jesse Osborne's lawyer asked Judge Lawton McIntosh on Monday to reconsider his sentence so Osborne, now 21, could have some hope of freedom in his 50s or 60s.

    Attorney Frank Eppes said the judge didn't fully consider a psychologist's report that Osborne's lashed out because of abuse and can be rehabilitated.

    “Give Jesse some hope to live with,” Eppes said at a televised court hearing.

    Osborne himself asked for a chance at life outside a prison cell, apologizing to the family of 6-year-old Jacob Hall who he killed and everyone at the school that day.

    “I would just like to say sorry to every single one of them. Because my evil actions hurt their lives,” Osborne said. “I’m just going to try to better myself in the Department of Corrections the rest of my life.

    But the teacher whose class was having recess, the parent of a wounded child, the father of the student celebrating his birthday, the superintendent who saw the bloodstained class rug and the school principal all said at Monday's hearing at the Anderson County Courthouse that they don't want to ever see Osborne out of prison.

    Principal Denise Fredericks recognized Osborne as he paced outside Townville Elementary School with a backpack full of ammunition for 12 minutes after his gun jammed before police arrived to arrest him. Osborne had been a student there for seven years.

    “I do wish Jesse a life where he can wake up, breathe, eat, work, be productive — but not outside the walls of a prison,” Fredericks said. “In my opinion, his current sentence is still so, so much more merciful than the sentence he gave to Jacob and our school family.”

    Prosecutors said Hall's family didn't wish to speak in court but want Osborne to never be released from prison.

    Osborne is serving two life sentences after pleading guilty. Before opening fire at the school on Sept. 28, 2016, he shot and killed his father while he slept in a recliner, kissed his rabbit and other pets goodbye, then stole his dad's truck and drove to his former elementary school, according to Osborne's confession.

    Osborne crashed his truck into the school fence and fired at the first grade class celebrating a classmate's birthday at recess. Hall bled to death from a gunshot to his leg. Two other student and a teacher suffered minor injuries.

    Uneaten cupcakes with the Batman logo could still be seen on the ground inside police tape hours after the shooting.

    “My son hates his birthday now,” father Jeff Bernard told the judge.

    Prosecutors said Osborne wanted to kill dozens but he was carrying the wrong ammunition and his gun jammed after every shot.

    “He didn’t stop because he wanted to. The gun jammed. Thank God the gun jammed,” Fredericks said.

    Osborne's lawyer said a video call he had open to a group chat with people who knew his plan showed him sobbing, upset and ready to give up after the first shots.

    Osborne is asking the judge to consider a supplemental report from a psychologist that disagrees with prosecution experts who testified at Osborne's original sentencing that he is a dangerous and pathological liar with no remorse.

    Osborne's brain was sill developing in his teens. The psychiatrists cited by the defense said he has shown guilt and grief and responded to treatment during the nearly seven years since his arrest on school grounds.

    Osborne's lawyer suggested a 30-year minimum sentence for the two counts of murder, followed by 15 years for shooting at the other children and then lifetime monitoring by GPS after he is released from prison with one review after 10 years.

    McIntosh asked for a detailed report from the defense expert in the next month and told prosecutors they would have at least 10 days to respond.

    A number of students never returned to the school after the shooting. Some haven't returned to any school. A popped balloon ended a school dance in tears. Recess is still filled with anxiety, said teacher Meghan Hollingsworth, whose class was celebrating the birthday that day. Her child was in kindergarten just down the hall.

    "The screams of children having fun sends a panic through me as I look to see who is screaming and see if they are OK," she said.

    She asked the judge to think about a sign in her first grade classroom and uphold his life sentence handed down more than three years ago,

    “You are free to choose, but you are not free from the consequences of your choices,” it reads.


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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,053
    ^ I see a pretty simple solution to letting him out of prison.
    Release him the same day Jacob Hall rises from the dead.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,907


    Get ready for lots of this...GOP politicians constantly pushing anti 2A bullshit gets these people thinking a gun solves everything
    Someone with an AR15 should have busted a few caps in his ass. Where would it have gone had the folks who were shooting with their phone, shot with guns? Yee ha, ‘Murica!
    It will def happen shootouts at drive through burger joints too! Give me my cheeseburger before I put a cap in your arse 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,907


    Get ready for lots of this...GOP politicians constantly pushing anti 2A bullshit gets these people thinking a gun solves everything
    Someone with an AR15 should have busted a few caps in his ass. Where would it have gone had the folks who were shooting with their phone, shot with guns? Yee ha, ‘Murica!
    But Mickey is the problem 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,258


    Get ready for lots of this...GOP politicians constantly pushing anti 2A bullshit gets these people thinking a gun solves everything
    Someone with an AR15 should have busted a few caps in his ass. Where would it have gone had the folks who were shooting with their phone, shot with guns? Yee ha, ‘Murica!
    But Mickey is the problem 

    No I am not
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,645


    Had to have been the ham and cheese
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,053
    Nah, you only whip out the gun for pepperoni pizza flavor.
    Ham & cheese is strictly a stab-able offense.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,907
    mickeyrat said:


    Get ready for lots of this...GOP politicians constantly pushing anti 2A bullshit gets these people thinking a gun solves everything
    Someone with an AR15 should have busted a few caps in his ass. Where would it have gone had the folks who were shooting with their phone, shot with guns? Yee ha, ‘Murica!
    But Mickey is the problem 

    No I am not
    😂😂😂 no not you Mickey unless you have big ears and a tail 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,258
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,645
    mickeyrat said:
    christ...how in the fuck did the kid get the gun.

    This is just like the shooting that happened in my hood a few years ago. Google Noblesville West Middle School shooting. The kid left the room, got his gun from his locker, came back and started shooting. Luckily the teacher was all over it but the little girl he was targeting did get shot.

    This shit is no different than the seat belt laws. When gov't finally steps in and says that we are basically too stupid to protect ourselves so they create laws to protect us. The gun nuts can cry all they want about the 2A but shit like this will get us closer to licensing and registration.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,329
    mickeyrat said:
    christ...how in the fuck did the kid get the gun.

    This is just like the shooting that happened in my hood a few years ago. Google Noblesville West Middle School shooting. The kid left the room, got his gun from his locker, came back and started shooting. Luckily the teacher was all over it but the little girl he was targeting did get shot.

    This shit is no different than the seat belt laws. When gov't finally steps in and says that we are basically too stupid to protect ourselves so they create laws to protect us. The gun nuts can cry all they want about the 2A but shit like this will get us closer to licensing and registration.
    A “responsible” gun owner, duh.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,645
    edited May 2023
    mickeyrat said:
    christ...how in the fuck did the kid get the gun.

    This is just like the shooting that happened in my hood a few years ago. Google Noblesville West Middle School shooting. The kid left the room, got his gun from his locker, came back and started shooting. Luckily the teacher was all over it but the little girl he was targeting did get shot.

    This shit is no different than the seat belt laws. When gov't finally steps in and says that we are basically too stupid to protect ourselves so they create laws to protect us. The gun nuts can cry all they want about the 2A but shit like this will get us closer to licensing and registration.
    A “responsible” gun owner, duh.
    yep...same shit with the local shooter. Parent's kept the guns in an unlocked gun safe and he had free reign to take them without them even noticing. The parents were sued but I can't remember the outcome or if the case has even been settled yet.
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,645
    I just realized that our school shooting was five years ago today....crazy


    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,907
    I just realized that our school shooting was five years ago today....crazy


    Shit parenting 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,329
    Good lord. You go Tejas. Just give the kids .38s, tell them to defend themselves and be done with it.

    Winnie-the-Pooh book teaches kids to ‘run, hide, fight’ in a shooting

    When Cindy Campos’s 5-year-old son came back from school, he eagerly pulled from his bag a book he’d been given at school. He wanted to read it right away.

    Campos took the book and froze. On the bright red cover, next to an illustration of Winnie-the-Pooh, were the words “Run Hide Fight.”

    She skimmed through the pages and found it was an instructional book intended to teach children — in rhyming lines rendered in curly font — what to do in a school shooting.

    “Danger is scary, but our legendary friends Pooh and his crew are here to help us through,” reads one page.

    “If danger finds us, don’t stay, run away,” reads another, accompanied by a drawing of the characters Kanga and Roo in boxing gloves. “If we can’t get away, we have to FIGHT with all our might.”

    The distribution of the books around May 15, which was first reported by the Oak Cliff Advocate, sparked a wave of concern from parents in Campos’s Dallas school district, she told The Washington Post. Campos, whose children attend Leslie A. Stemmons Elementary School, found another copy of the book in her first-grade son’s bag and later learned from a teacher that the books had been issued by their school.

    Campos criticized the decision to distribute the books without informing parents and questioned the school district’s “tone deaf” timing, just over a week before the anniversary of the school shooting that killed 19 schoolchildren and two teachers in Uvalde, Tex. More than anything, she said, the surreal image of Winnie-the-Pooh telling her children to hide and fight felt like an infuriating sign of acceptance in a country that has endured hundreds of school shootings.

    “It’s kind of like a slap in the face,” Campos said. “‘Hey! It’s normal now. Have a book about it.’”

    A spokesperson for the Dallas Independent School District wrote that the district faces a “reality … no different than any other school district in America” with regard to the risk of school shootings.

    “Recently a booklet was sent home so parents could discuss with their children how to stay safe in such cases,” the spokesperson said. “Unfortunately, we did not provide parents any guide or context. We apologize for the confusion and are thankful to parents who reached out to assist us in being better partners.”

    Campos said that she couldn’t avoid discussing the topic of shootings with her two sons, ages 5 and 7, after the mass killing at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde last year. But they’re still too young to fully grapple with the subject.

    “They’re thinking, ‘Oh, it’s kind of like my Nerf gun,’” Campos said. “I’m trying to tell them, in a ‘cute, but it’s going to be okay’ way, that it’s not. And I don’t even know how to do that as a parent. It’s not in the parenting books.”

    Campos’s youngest son, who’s now in prekindergarten, didn’t realize the subject of the book he handed to his mother, either. When Campos sat down with him to read it later that evening, she said he still hadn’t grasped the severity of the book’s warnings. That they were delivered by Winnie-the-Pooh didn’t seem to help.

    “You can’t, like, hide in a honey pot,” Campos said. “It just felt very pretend. To him, he’s thinking, this isn’t about guns.”

    The Winnie-the-Pooh book, titled “Stay Safe,” was published by Praetorian Consulting, a company that provides security training to businesses and schools. Its website advertises the book as part of a K-6 curriculum developed by police officers and teachers to teach safety during school intrusions in an “age-appropriate format.” It can use Winnie-the-Pooh and the rest of A.A. Milne’s cast of animal characters because they entered the public domain in 2022, the site adds.

    “It is our belief that, as with other school safety strategies like fire-drills, pedestrian safety and stranger-danger, the concepts of Run, Hide, Fight must be discussed regularly with students of all ages,” Praetorian Consulting’s website reads.

    Praetorian Consulting did not immediately respond to a request for comment Thursday evening.

    Campos said she didn’t make a complaint to her school or the district but discussed the book with her prekindergarten son’s teacher, who told her that she’d been given the book as one of many the school routinely gives to students to read. After reading the book with her son, Campos shared her concerns in a community Facebook group and found several other parents and teachers who were also alarmed, she said, including those from other schools in the Dallas Independent School District.

    California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D), who has disparaged gun laws in red states like Texas, joined the criticism on social media.

    “Winnie the Pooh is now teaching Texas kids about active shooters because the elected officials do not have the courage to keep our kids safe and pass common sense gun safety laws,” he said in a tweet.

    Daniel Campos, Campos’s brother, said the thought of his nephews confronting the reality of school shootings in a Winnie-the-Pooh book was frustrating — all the more so, he added, as the anniversary of the Uvalde shooting passes and in the absence of stricter gun laws.

    “The best they can do is give a children’s book and hope for the best,” he said.

    Roughly two weeks after Campos’s son first brought it home, the Winnie-the-Pooh book is still on her son’s shelf. Soon, she will have to continue grappling with the question of how to explain its message to her son.

    “He wants to read it again,” Campos said. “I’m pretty sure because I cried. To them, it’s like, something made mommy cry. What’s going on?”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/05/26/winnie-pooh-school-shooting-book/


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    The news related to shootings has, itself, become like a rapid fire automatic weapon,
    And now for the news: shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting shooting......















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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,907
    Weekend full of gun violence throughout the nation of guns! Did we reach the 100 victims threshold? 
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,579
    Sobering stuff. 

    https://www.propublica.org/article/ryan-busse-explains-roots-of-us-gun-violence

    Former Gun Company Executive Explains Roots of America’s Gun Violence Epidemic

    by Corey G. JohnsonJune 2, 10:10 a.m. EDT

    Ryan Busse once worked for a major gun-maker. He now warns about the danger of growing radicalization in the industry.


    “What caused the radicalization?

    It was a combination of factors. After Columbine in 1999, the National Rifle Association in very well-publicized meetings now, thanks to sleuthing and digging by reporters at NPR, we now have tapes of the meetings where they literally said, are we going to be part of the solution here? Or maybe we can use these things to drum up hate and fear in our members? We might even be able to use them to drive membership. And they chose the latter. They perfected that system for about seven or eight years, getting their feet underneath them. They figured out it can drive politics. And then an explosion hit. That explosion was the future Black president leading in the polls in 2007. And then Barack Obama won in 2008. So you have this sort of uncapping of hate and conspiracy, much of it racially driven, that the NRA was tapping into. Prior to 2007, people in the United States never purchased more than 7 million guns in a single year. By the time Barack Obama left office, the United States was purchasing almost 17 million guns a year. And so I think it’s impossible to discount the degree to which Obama’s presidency lit this whole thing on fire.”

  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,907
    😂😂 17 million in 2016 what’s it up to now? 
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