America's Gun Violence #2

Gern Blansten

static111 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Poncier said:

mickeyrat said:

having a dead shooter makes it that much harder to understand motivations specific to that shooter. Cant really compile an accurate data set to begin to address the various reasons.

So I'm curious where you guys land on whats effectively the DP without due process?

But do you stand by and let a shooter continue his rampage in hopes of getting him alive to understand his motive, or do you stop him? 

SIR PLEASE STOP SHOOTING EVERYONE AND TELL US WHY YOU ARE DOING THIS!!!

Lol. I imagined Steve Martin as the Jerk

HE HATES THOSE CANS

static111

Gern Blansten said:

static111 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Poncier said:

mickeyrat said:

having a dead shooter makes it that much harder to understand motivations specific to that shooter. Cant really compile an accurate data set to begin to address the various reasons.

So I'm curious where you guys land on whats effectively the DP without due process?

But do you stand by and let a shooter continue his rampage in hopes of getting him alive to understand his motive, or do you stop him? 

SIR PLEASE STOP SHOOTING EVERYONE AND TELL US WHY YOU ARE DOING THIS!!!

Lol. I imagined Steve Martin as the Jerk

HE HATES THOSE CANS

Literally my favorite part of that movie and probably the funniest scene of any movie ever, to me at least.

Gern Blansten

static111 said:

Gern Blansten said:

static111 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Poncier said:

mickeyrat said:

having a dead shooter makes it that much harder to understand motivations specific to that shooter. Cant really compile an accurate data set to begin to address the various reasons.

So I'm curious where you guys land on whats effectively the DP without due process?

But do you stand by and let a shooter continue his rampage in hopes of getting him alive to understand his motive, or do you stop him? 

SIR PLEASE STOP SHOOTING EVERYONE AND TELL US WHY YOU ARE DOING THIS!!!

Lol. I imagined Steve Martin as the Jerk

HE HATES THOSE CANS

Literally my favorite part of that movie and probably the funniest scene of any movie ever, to me at least.

Have you watched The Lonely Guy and Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid?

Hilarious movies

Lerxst1992

Only the best

Yahoo News

Ex-Trump Doc Ronny Jackson Shoots Himself in Foot With Ill-Timed Video on Guns

5 hours ago

mace1229

static111 said:

Gern Blansten said:

static111 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Poncier said:

mickeyrat said:

having a dead shooter makes it that much harder to understand motivations specific to that shooter. Cant really compile an accurate data set to begin to address the various reasons.

So I'm curious where you guys land on whats effectively the DP without due process?

But do you stand by and let a shooter continue his rampage in hopes of getting him alive to understand his motive, or do you stop him? 

SIR PLEASE STOP SHOOTING EVERYONE AND TELL US WHY YOU ARE DOING THIS!!!

Lol. I imagined Steve Martin as the Jerk

HE HATES THOSE CANS

Literally my favorite part of that movie and probably the funniest scene of any movie ever, to me at least.

Close call between that, the  “I have a special purpose!!” and “I just need this remote. I don’t need anything else.”

Gern Blansten

mace1229 said:

static111 said:

Gern Blansten said:

static111 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Poncier said:

mickeyrat said:

having a dead shooter makes it that much harder to understand motivations specific to that shooter. Cant really compile an accurate data set to begin to address the various reasons.

So I'm curious where you guys land on whats effectively the DP without due process?

But do you stand by and let a shooter continue his rampage in hopes of getting him alive to understand his motive, or do you stop him? 

SIR PLEASE STOP SHOOTING EVERYONE AND TELL US WHY YOU ARE DOING THIS!!!

Lol. I imagined Steve Martin as the Jerk

HE HATES THOSE CANS

Literally my favorite part of that movie and probably the funniest scene of any movie ever, to me at least.

Close call between that, the  “I have a special purpose!!” and “I just need this remote. I don’t need anything else.”

Bring us some fresh wine...no more of that old stuff

Gern Blansten

Funniest part of The Jerk (in my opinion) was the cat juggling video. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dReADO0NYg

static111

Gern Blansten said:

static111 said:

Gern Blansten said:

static111 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Poncier said:

mickeyrat said:

having a dead shooter makes it that much harder to understand motivations specific to that shooter. Cant really compile an accurate data set to begin to address the various reasons.

So I'm curious where you guys land on whats effectively the DP without due process?

But do you stand by and let a shooter continue his rampage in hopes of getting him alive to understand his motive, or do you stop him? 

SIR PLEASE STOP SHOOTING EVERYONE AND TELL US WHY YOU ARE DOING THIS!!!

Lol. I imagined Steve Martin as the Jerk

HE HATES THOSE CANS

Literally my favorite part of that movie and probably the funniest scene of any movie ever, to me at least.

Have you watched The Lonely Guy and Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid?

Hilarious movies

I will have to check those out. 

gimmesometruth27

Lerxst1992 said:

Only the best

Yahoo News

Ex-Trump Doc Ronny Jackson Shoots Himself in Foot With Ill-Timed Video on Guns

5 hours ago

"come take it."

man, maybe that dude should just hand in his gun since he clearly isn't responsible enough to wield it.

nicknyr15

3 Days in NYC
26 shot
3 dead 

Zero protests. 

Gern Blansten

https://www.wrtv.com/news/local-news/crime/what-we-know-about-the-armed-civilian-who-killed-greenwood-gunman?fbclid=IwAR23mHov8kp_FQNERFFrICI5-HyqH6CDPWkcrQtt_NiSJYk2rCbfx1Gfo0g

Greenwood, IN gunman was 20....kid that shot him was 22

crazy shit

There can't be enough credit given to Dicken. He could have ran but he didn't. It sounds like the gunman was prepared to take out a lot of people.

According to Greenwood Police Chief James Ison, Dicken was shopping at the mall with his girlfriend.

At 5:57 p.m., less than two minutes after the gunfire began, Dicken engaged with the gunman.

“I will say his actions were nothing short of heroic. He engaged the gunman from quite a distance with a handgun,” Ison said. "(He) was very tactically sound as he moved to close in on the suspect, he was also motioning for people to exit behind him. He has no police training and no military background.”

tbergs

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.wrtv.com/news/local-news/crime/what-we-know-about-the-armed-civilian-who-killed-greenwood-gunman?fbclid=IwAR23mHov8kp_FQNERFFrICI5-HyqH6CDPWkcrQtt_NiSJYk2rCbfx1Gfo0g

Greenwood, IN gunman was 20....kid that shot him was 22

crazy shit

There can't be enough credit given to Dicken. He could have ran but he didn't. It sounds like the gunman was prepared to take out a lot of people.

According to Greenwood Police Chief James Ison, Dicken was shopping at the mall with his girlfriend.

At 5:57 p.m., less than two minutes after the gunfire began, Dicken engaged with the gunman.

“I will say his actions were nothing short of heroic. He engaged the gunman from quite a distance with a handgun,” Ison said. "(He) was very tactically sound as he moved to close in on the suspect, he was also motioning for people to exit behind him. He has no police training and no military background.”

Clearly he'll be the cover boy for the NRA and anything gun related for a long time. Nothing will change now.

tbergs

nicknyr15 said:

3 Days in NYC
26 shot
3 dead 

Zero protests. 

Not sure what you're getting at. Is any of this new and does anything ever actually change? People are exhausted and deflated. 

tempo_n_groove

tbergs said:

nicknyr15 said:

3 Days in NYC
26 shot
3 dead 

Zero protests. 

Not sure what you're getting at. Is any of this new and does anything ever actually change? People are exhausted and deflated. 

Well yes, the incidents that are happening are new.  People don't seem to care one way or the other and go and target parties to shoot up the place.  These used to be rare occurrences and now they are every weekend in broad daylight, not at 2am.

Mayor Adams is trying I know but he has a big mess to clean up.  The insane were running the asylum here for a while...

tempo_n_groove

tbergs said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.wrtv.com/news/local-news/crime/what-we-know-about-the-armed-civilian-who-killed-greenwood-gunman?fbclid=IwAR23mHov8kp_FQNERFFrICI5-HyqH6CDPWkcrQtt_NiSJYk2rCbfx1Gfo0g

Greenwood, IN gunman was 20....kid that shot him was 22

crazy shit

There can't be enough credit given to Dicken. He could have ran but he didn't. It sounds like the gunman was prepared to take out a lot of people.

According to Greenwood Police Chief James Ison, Dicken was shopping at the mall with his girlfriend.

At 5:57 p.m., less than two minutes after the gunfire began, Dicken engaged with the gunman.

“I will say his actions were nothing short of heroic. He engaged the gunman from quite a distance with a handgun,” Ison said. "(He) was very tactically sound as he moved to close in on the suspect, he was also motioning for people to exit behind him. He has no police training and no military background.”

Clearly he'll be the cover boy for the NRA and anything gun related for a long time. Nothing will change now.

The reason you carry is for the "what if" moments like this.  I am in no way celebrating it but that is why you train and carry.

Gern Blansten

tempo_n_groove said:

tbergs said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.wrtv.com/news/local-news/crime/what-we-know-about-the-armed-civilian-who-killed-greenwood-gunman?fbclid=IwAR23mHov8kp_FQNERFFrICI5-HyqH6CDPWkcrQtt_NiSJYk2rCbfx1Gfo0g

Greenwood, IN gunman was 20....kid that shot him was 22

crazy shit

There can't be enough credit given to Dicken. He could have ran but he didn't. It sounds like the gunman was prepared to take out a lot of people.

According to Greenwood Police Chief James Ison, Dicken was shopping at the mall with his girlfriend.

At 5:57 p.m., less than two minutes after the gunfire began, Dicken engaged with the gunman.

“I will say his actions were nothing short of heroic. He engaged the gunman from quite a distance with a handgun,” Ison said. "(He) was very tactically sound as he moved to close in on the suspect, he was also motioning for people to exit behind him. He has no police training and no military background.”

Clearly he'll be the cover boy for the NRA and anything gun related for a long time. Nothing will change now.

The reason you carry is for the "what if" moments like this.  I am in no way celebrating it but that is why you train and carry.

I agree...but I hope we don't get too comfortable with this

What if the good guy had accidentally shot 1-2 people and killed them? What if the cops showed up right when the good guy was shooting at the bad guy and the cops took him down?

Do we really want the solution to be people taking the law into their own hands? Fuck no.

static111

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

tbergs said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.wrtv.com/news/local-news/crime/what-we-know-about-the-armed-civilian-who-killed-greenwood-gunman?fbclid=IwAR23mHov8kp_FQNERFFrICI5-HyqH6CDPWkcrQtt_NiSJYk2rCbfx1Gfo0g

Greenwood, IN gunman was 20....kid that shot him was 22

crazy shit

There can't be enough credit given to Dicken. He could have ran but he didn't. It sounds like the gunman was prepared to take out a lot of people.

According to Greenwood Police Chief James Ison, Dicken was shopping at the mall with his girlfriend.

At 5:57 p.m., less than two minutes after the gunfire began, Dicken engaged with the gunman.

“I will say his actions were nothing short of heroic. He engaged the gunman from quite a distance with a handgun,” Ison said. "(He) was very tactically sound as he moved to close in on the suspect, he was also motioning for people to exit behind him. He has no police training and no military background.”

Clearly he'll be the cover boy for the NRA and anything gun related for a long time. Nothing will change now.

The reason you carry is for the "what if" moments like this.  I am in no way celebrating it but that is why you train and carry.

I agree...but I hope we don't get too comfortable with this

What if the good guy had accidentally shot 1-2 people and killed them? What if the cops showed up right when the good guy was shooting at the bad guy and the cops took him down?

Do we really want the solution to be people taking the law into their own hands? Fuck no.

If we live in a society where the only way to feel safe and secure is carrying in case an incident occurs, or choosing not to go out, I would say it is time to reinvent society.

tempo_n_groove

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

tbergs said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.wrtv.com/news/local-news/crime/what-we-know-about-the-armed-civilian-who-killed-greenwood-gunman?fbclid=IwAR23mHov8kp_FQNERFFrICI5-HyqH6CDPWkcrQtt_NiSJYk2rCbfx1Gfo0g

Greenwood, IN gunman was 20....kid that shot him was 22

crazy shit

There can't be enough credit given to Dicken. He could have ran but he didn't. It sounds like the gunman was prepared to take out a lot of people.

According to Greenwood Police Chief James Ison, Dicken was shopping at the mall with his girlfriend.

At 5:57 p.m., less than two minutes after the gunfire began, Dicken engaged with the gunman.

“I will say his actions were nothing short of heroic. He engaged the gunman from quite a distance with a handgun,” Ison said. "(He) was very tactically sound as he moved to close in on the suspect, he was also motioning for people to exit behind him. He has no police training and no military background.”

Clearly he'll be the cover boy for the NRA and anything gun related for a long time. Nothing will change now.

The reason you carry is for the "what if" moments like this.  I am in no way celebrating it but that is why you train and carry.

I agree...but I hope we don't get too comfortable with this

What if the good guy had accidentally shot 1-2 people and killed them? What if the cops showed up right when the good guy was shooting at the bad guy and the cops took him down?

Do we really want the solution to be people taking the law into their own hands? Fuck no.

static111 said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

tbergs said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.wrtv.com/news/local-news/crime/what-we-know-about-the-armed-civilian-who-killed-greenwood-gunman?fbclid=IwAR23mHov8kp_FQNERFFrICI5-HyqH6CDPWkcrQtt_NiSJYk2rCbfx1Gfo0g

Greenwood, IN gunman was 20....kid that shot him was 22

crazy shit

There can't be enough credit given to Dicken. He could have ran but he didn't. It sounds like the gunman was prepared to take out a lot of people.

According to Greenwood Police Chief James Ison, Dicken was shopping at the mall with his girlfriend.

At 5:57 p.m., less than two minutes after the gunfire began, Dicken engaged with the gunman.

“I will say his actions were nothing short of heroic. He engaged the gunman from quite a distance with a handgun,” Ison said. "(He) was very tactically sound as he moved to close in on the suspect, he was also motioning for people to exit behind him. He has no police training and no military background.”

Clearly he'll be the cover boy for the NRA and anything gun related for a long time. Nothing will change now.

The reason you carry is for the "what if" moments like this.  I am in no way celebrating it but that is why you train and carry.

I agree...but I hope we don't get too comfortable with this

What if the good guy had accidentally shot 1-2 people and killed them? What if the cops showed up right when the good guy was shooting at the bad guy and the cops took him down?

Do we really want the solution to be people taking the law into their own hands? Fuck no.

If we live in a society where the only way to feel safe and secure is carrying in case an incident occurs, or choosing not to go out, I would say it is time to reinvent society.

You are both 100% correct.

TJ25487

tbergs said:

nicknyr15 said:

3 Days in NYC
26 shot
3 dead 

Zero protests. 

Not sure what you're getting at. Is any of this new and does anything ever actually change? People are exhausted and deflated. 

I think what he meant is that the media does not want to cover the day to day shootings in the inner cities, only the mass shootings that they can quickly sensationalize for political benefit. Nothing new. 

Halifax2TheMax

TJ25487 said:

tbergs said:

nicknyr15 said:

3 Days in NYC
26 shot
3 dead 

Zero protests. 

Not sure what you're getting at. Is any of this new and does anything ever actually change? People are exhausted and deflated. 

I think what he meant is that the media does not want to cover the day to day shootings in the inner cities, only the mass shootings that they can quickly sensationalize for political benefit. Nothing new. 

The media does cover the rash of shootings in large cities like Chicago and NYC though. I’ve heard about NYC and despite the “press” they’re still below the previous years YTD numbers. Up, but not equal or surpassing. Summer always sees a spike. I’m no where near either city but it’s been reported on where I live.

Maybe the OP can organize a take back the streets anti-gun violence March?

Problem really is that it’s every damn day in ‘Murica and everywhere, not just NYC, Chicago or Houston. We accept it as the price of freedumb.