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  • So, should Kyle Rittenhouse be allowed to legally purchase and own firearms?
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  • JB16057
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    So, should Kyle Rittenhouse be allowed to legally purchase and own firearms?
    Yes, of course. Not only that but he's going to have a boatload of money after he sues everyone for defamation. Can you think of a better way to spend those millions$$$?
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,609
    So, should Kyle Rittenhouse be allowed to legally purchase and own firearms?
    Yep. He's official guilty of nothing. Maybe he'll see consequences for the next body(s) he chalks up.
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  • JB16057
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    Here's a better question, should Alec Baldwin be allowed to legally purchase guns? According to the newest lawsuit, Alec was never supposed to fire the gun. https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/18/entertainment/rust-film-set-shooting-lawsuit-script-supervisor/index.html



  • mickeyrat
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  • mace1229
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    I live in Aurora. I teach just outside of Aurora. The violence in schools, even towards teachers, is out of control and the admin refuses to even acknowledge or do anything.
  • Guess they should have hired a firearms expert to ensure their safety?

    2-Year-Old Fatally Shoots Father With Rifle in Accident (msn.com)
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  • Can’t legally possess a sawed off shotgun but it’s legal to possess a handgun that can fire shotgun shells. Makes perfect sense.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/22/politics/loaded-firearm-january-6-charged-mark-mazza/index.html

    Never mind threatening the life of the speaker of the house. Just a tourist there for the history.
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  • mickeyrat
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    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyrat said:
    If I remember my hunting rules correctly that can't be used to hunt with if the barrel is short on them.

    S&W made a 500 pistol for hunting.  The thing is a street howitzer.
  • tbergs
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    edited November 2021
    JB16057 said:
    Here's a better question, should Alec Baldwin be allowed to legally purchase guns? According to the newest lawsuit, Alec was never supposed to fire the gun. https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/18/entertainment/rust-film-set-shooting-lawsuit-script-supervisor/index.html



    Make it about left and right all your want, guns still fucking suck. But you keep cheering on Rittenhouse and seeking Baldwin's hide. Very comparable. I hope Rittenhouse is civilly sued for wrongful death until his ears bleed. All these asshats that want to celebrate a murderer can help pay the families of the dead too. Baldwin or the movie studio will also get their asses sued, rightfully so.

    Completely normal to be really upset about that one and not the other one though. All gun fatalities suck, but I'm going to lean towards being more concerned about the intentional one's where the shooter willfully carried a semi-auto rifle into a hostile environment looking for trouble.


    It's a hopeless situation...
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    tbergs said:
    JB16057 said:
    Here's a better question, should Alec Baldwin be allowed to legally purchase guns? According to the newest lawsuit, Alec was never supposed to fire the gun. https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/18/entertainment/rust-film-set-shooting-lawsuit-script-supervisor/index.html



    Make it about left and right all your want, guns still fucking suck. But you keep cheering on Rittenhouse and seeking Baldwin's hide. Very comparable. I hope Rittenhouse is civilly sued for wrongful death until his ears bleed. All these asshats that want to celebrate a murderer can help pay the families of the dead too. Baldwin or the movie studio will also get their asses sued, rightfully so.

    Completely normal to be really upset about that one and not the other one though. All gun fatalities suck, but I'm going to lean towards being more concerned about the intentional one's where the shooter willfully carried a semi-auto rifle into a hostile environment looking for trouble.

    I do agree with you that guns still suck but self defense is legal. I don't think Rittenhouse should have been there either but he had every right to be there. If our leaders allow rioting like we saw last summer, this will continue to happen. One side will not allow this kind of chaos without pushing back. If the rioting wasn't allowed, Rittenhouse never would have been there.
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    JB16057 said:
    tbergs said:
    JB16057 said:
    Here's a better question, should Alec Baldwin be allowed to legally purchase guns? According to the newest lawsuit, Alec was never supposed to fire the gun. https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/18/entertainment/rust-film-set-shooting-lawsuit-script-supervisor/index.html



    Make it about left and right all your want, guns still fucking suck. But you keep cheering on Rittenhouse and seeking Baldwin's hide. Very comparable. I hope Rittenhouse is civilly sued for wrongful death until his ears bleed. All these asshats that want to celebrate a murderer can help pay the families of the dead too. Baldwin or the movie studio will also get their asses sued, rightfully so.

    Completely normal to be really upset about that one and not the other one though. All gun fatalities suck, but I'm going to lean towards being more concerned about the intentional one's where the shooter willfully carried a semi-auto rifle into a hostile environment looking for trouble.

    I do agree with you that guns still suck but self defense is legal. I don't think Rittenhouse should have been there either but he had every right to be there. If our leaders allow rioting like we saw last summer, this will continue to happen. One side will not allow this kind of chaos without pushing back. If the rioting wasn't allowed, Rittenhouse never would have been there.
    One side will not allow property damage without loss of life?

    Well, then the best thing is for the rioters to show up armed and ready for vigilantes, I guess.
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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    dankind said:
    JB16057 said:
    tbergs said:
    JB16057 said:
    Here's a better question, should Alec Baldwin be allowed to legally purchase guns? According to the newest lawsuit, Alec was never supposed to fire the gun. https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/18/entertainment/rust-film-set-shooting-lawsuit-script-supervisor/index.html



    Make it about left and right all your want, guns still fucking suck. But you keep cheering on Rittenhouse and seeking Baldwin's hide. Very comparable. I hope Rittenhouse is civilly sued for wrongful death until his ears bleed. All these asshats that want to celebrate a murderer can help pay the families of the dead too. Baldwin or the movie studio will also get their asses sued, rightfully so.

    Completely normal to be really upset about that one and not the other one though. All gun fatalities suck, but I'm going to lean towards being more concerned about the intentional one's where the shooter willfully carried a semi-auto rifle into a hostile environment looking for trouble.

    I do agree with you that guns still suck but self defense is legal. I don't think Rittenhouse should have been there either but he had every right to be there. If our leaders allow rioting like we saw last summer, this will continue to happen. One side will not allow this kind of chaos without pushing back. If the rioting wasn't allowed, Rittenhouse never would have been there.
    One side will not allow property damage without loss of life?

    Well, then the best thing is for the rioters to show up armed and ready for vigilantes, I guess.
    There were plenty of rioters there with guns. I never said one side will not allow property damage without loss of life. Rittenhouse didn't kill anyone because they were destroying property. He shot them because they attacked him.
  • mace1229
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    dankind said:
    JB16057 said:
    tbergs said:
    JB16057 said:
    Here's a better question, should Alec Baldwin be allowed to legally purchase guns? According to the newest lawsuit, Alec was never supposed to fire the gun. https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/18/entertainment/rust-film-set-shooting-lawsuit-script-supervisor/index.html



    Make it about left and right all your want, guns still fucking suck. But you keep cheering on Rittenhouse and seeking Baldwin's hide. Very comparable. I hope Rittenhouse is civilly sued for wrongful death until his ears bleed. All these asshats that want to celebrate a murderer can help pay the families of the dead too. Baldwin or the movie studio will also get their asses sued, rightfully so.

    Completely normal to be really upset about that one and not the other one though. All gun fatalities suck, but I'm going to lean towards being more concerned about the intentional one's where the shooter willfully carried a semi-auto rifle into a hostile environment looking for trouble.

    I do agree with you that guns still suck but self defense is legal. I don't think Rittenhouse should have been there either but he had every right to be there. If our leaders allow rioting like we saw last summer, this will continue to happen. One side will not allow this kind of chaos without pushing back. If the rioting wasn't allowed, Rittenhouse never would have been there.
    One side will not allow property damage without loss of life?

    Well, then the best thing is for the rioters to show up armed and ready for vigilantes, I guess.
    You really think that’s the best option? Better than not burning down local businesses?
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,005
    next time i am going to a protest i am going to be armed to the teeth and will try to protect a building that does not need protecting. cos its my ryyyyghts.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    JB16057 said:
    tbergs said:
    JB16057 said:
    Here's a better question, should Alec Baldwin be allowed to legally purchase guns? According to the newest lawsuit, Alec was never supposed to fire the gun. https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/18/entertainment/rust-film-set-shooting-lawsuit-script-supervisor/index.html



    Make it about left and right all your want, guns still fucking suck. But you keep cheering on Rittenhouse and seeking Baldwin's hide. Very comparable. I hope Rittenhouse is civilly sued for wrongful death until his ears bleed. All these asshats that want to celebrate a murderer can help pay the families of the dead too. Baldwin or the movie studio will also get their asses sued, rightfully so.

    Completely normal to be really upset about that one and not the other one though. All gun fatalities suck, but I'm going to lean towards being more concerned about the intentional one's where the shooter willfully carried a semi-auto rifle into a hostile environment looking for trouble.

    I do agree with you that guns still suck but self defense is legal. I don't think Rittenhouse should have been there either but he had every right to be there. If our leaders allow rioting like we saw last summer, this will continue to happen. One side will not allow this kind of chaos without pushing back. If the rioting wasn't allowed, Rittenhouse never would have been there.
    Capitol siege, anyone? LOL
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    tbergs said:
    JB16057 said:
    Here's a better question, should Alec Baldwin be allowed to legally purchase guns? According to the newest lawsuit, Alec was never supposed to fire the gun. https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/18/entertainment/rust-film-set-shooting-lawsuit-script-supervisor/index.html



    Make it about left and right all your want, guns still fucking suck. But you keep cheering on Rittenhouse and seeking Baldwin's hide. Very comparable. I hope Rittenhouse is civilly sued for wrongful death until his ears bleed. All these asshats that want to celebrate a murderer can help pay the families of the dead too. Baldwin or the movie studio will also get their asses sued, rightfully so.

    Completely normal to be really upset about that one and not the other one though. All gun fatalities suck, but I'm going to lean towards being more concerned about the intentional one's where the shooter willfully carried a semi-auto rifle into a hostile environment looking for trouble.


    Looks like Rittenhouse is ramping up the libel lawsuits and the interviews are starting, so he’ll probably be able to afford any civil lawsuits that come his way.   
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    mace1229 said:
    dankind said:
    JB16057 said:
    tbergs said:
    JB16057 said:
    Here's a better question, should Alec Baldwin be allowed to legally purchase guns? According to the newest lawsuit, Alec was never supposed to fire the gun. https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/18/entertainment/rust-film-set-shooting-lawsuit-script-supervisor/index.html



    Make it about left and right all your want, guns still fucking suck. But you keep cheering on Rittenhouse and seeking Baldwin's hide. Very comparable. I hope Rittenhouse is civilly sued for wrongful death until his ears bleed. All these asshats that want to celebrate a murderer can help pay the families of the dead too. Baldwin or the movie studio will also get their asses sued, rightfully so.

    Completely normal to be really upset about that one and not the other one though. All gun fatalities suck, but I'm going to lean towards being more concerned about the intentional one's where the shooter willfully carried a semi-auto rifle into a hostile environment looking for trouble.

    I do agree with you that guns still suck but self defense is legal. I don't think Rittenhouse should have been there either but he had every right to be there. If our leaders allow rioting like we saw last summer, this will continue to happen. One side will not allow this kind of chaos without pushing back. If the rioting wasn't allowed, Rittenhouse never would have been there.
    One side will not allow property damage without loss of life?

    Well, then the best thing is for the rioters to show up armed and ready for vigilantes, I guess.
    You really think that’s the best option? Better than not burning down local businesses?
    Yes. Why limit it to options, though? We can do burn down buildings AND kill rednecks in self-defense. 

    God bless America!
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,609
    JB16057 said:
    tbergs said:
    JB16057 said:
    Here's a better question, should Alec Baldwin be allowed to legally purchase guns? According to the newest lawsuit, Alec was never supposed to fire the gun. https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/18/entertainment/rust-film-set-shooting-lawsuit-script-supervisor/index.html



    Make it about left and right all your want, guns still fucking suck. But you keep cheering on Rittenhouse and seeking Baldwin's hide. Very comparable. I hope Rittenhouse is civilly sued for wrongful death until his ears bleed. All these asshats that want to celebrate a murderer can help pay the families of the dead too. Baldwin or the movie studio will also get their asses sued, rightfully so.

    Completely normal to be really upset about that one and not the other one though. All gun fatalities suck, but I'm going to lean towards being more concerned about the intentional one's where the shooter willfully carried a semi-auto rifle into a hostile environment looking for trouble.

    I do agree with you that guns still suck but self defense is legal. I don't think Rittenhouse should have been there either but he had every right to be there. If our leaders allow rioting like we saw last summer, this will continue to happen. One side will not allow this kind of chaos without pushing back. If the rioting wasn't allowed, Rittenhouse never would have been there.
    And that's probably a big piece of why Kyle's a hero. Cops need to be able to continue to kill black people not only with no legal consequences but with no community response. Let's scare them into staying home.
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