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  • From CNN...

    Prosecutor: Suspect's parents left school without son after being told of his behavior morning of shooting

    Oakland County, Michigan, Prosecutor Karen McDonald outlined some of the key events that took place on the day of the shooting.

    A teacher of shooting suspect, Ethan Crumbley, found a note on his desk on the morning of the shooting that "alarmed her to the point she took a picture of it on her cell phone."

    She said the note included a drawing of a semiautomatic handgun pointing at the words, "the thoughts won't stop, help me." The note also included a section with a drawing of a bullet with the words "blood everywhere."

    The parents of the suspect "were immediately summoned" to the school, McDonald said. The prosecutor noted that the suspect altered the note before it was retrieved by a counselor.

    "At the meeting James and Jennifer Crumbley were shown the drawing and were advised that they were required to get the — their son into counseling within 48 hours," she said.

    The prosecutor said the parents "failed to ask their son if he had his gun with him or where his gun was located and failed to inspect his backpack for the presence of the gun which he had with him."

    The parents resisted the idea of their son leaving the school at that time and they left the school without him, she added. He was returned to the classroom.

    Jesus, if a school immediately summons you and tells you that you need to get your son into counseling within 48 hours, why the f would you leave your kid at school?

    Why the fuck would you give your 15 year old son a semi-automatic hand gun?
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 6,508
    edited December 2021

    From CNN...

    Prosecutor: Suspect's parents left school without son after being told of his behavior morning of shooting

    Oakland County, Michigan, Prosecutor Karen McDonald outlined some of the key events that took place on the day of the shooting.

    A teacher of shooting suspect, Ethan Crumbley, found a note on his desk on the morning of the shooting that "alarmed her to the point she took a picture of it on her cell phone."

    She said the note included a drawing of a semiautomatic handgun pointing at the words, "the thoughts won't stop, help me." The note also included a section with a drawing of a bullet with the words "blood everywhere."

    The parents of the suspect "were immediately summoned" to the school, McDonald said. The prosecutor noted that the suspect altered the note before it was retrieved by a counselor.

    "At the meeting James and Jennifer Crumbley were shown the drawing and were advised that they were required to get the — their son into counseling within 48 hours," she said.

    The prosecutor said the parents "failed to ask their son if he had his gun with him or where his gun was located and failed to inspect his backpack for the presence of the gun which he had with him."

    The parents resisted the idea of their son leaving the school at that time and they left the school without him, she added. He was returned to the classroom.

    Jesus, if a school immediately summons you and tells you that you need to get your son into counseling within 48 hours, why the f would you leave your kid at school?

    Why the fuck would you give your 15 year old son a semi-automatic hand gun?

    ...and I bet his parents didn't have him vaccinated either!


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    Police are searching for Michigan school shooting suspect's parents

    Police are currently searching for Michigan school shooting suspect Ethan Crumbley’s parents just hours before they are scheduled to be arraigned on involuntary manslaughter charges, according to authorities.

    The county prosecutor said his father bought the gun four days before it was used in the shooting. The suspect was with him and later posted on social media about the gun, calling it "my new beauty."

    (4) Police are searching for Michigan school shooting suspect's parents (cnn.com)

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  • Odds they end up at the Bundy Ranch?

    Police are searching for Michigan school shooting suspect's parents

    Police are currently searching for Michigan school shooting suspect Ethan Crumbley’s parents just hours before they are scheduled to be arraigned on involuntary manslaughter charges, according to authorities.

    The county prosecutor said his father bought the gun four days before it was used in the shooting. The suspect was with him and later posted on social media about the gun, calling it "my new beauty."

    (4) Police are searching for Michigan school shooting suspect's parents (cnn.com)

    Once again a woman prosecutor doing a kick ass job, sounding confident, using common sense.  Maybe we need to have women take over a lot more than we’re allowed. 
  • Odds they end up at the Bundy Ranch?

    Police are searching for Michigan school shooting suspect's parents

    Police are currently searching for Michigan school shooting suspect Ethan Crumbley’s parents just hours before they are scheduled to be arraigned on involuntary manslaughter charges, according to authorities.

    The county prosecutor said his father bought the gun four days before it was used in the shooting. The suspect was with him and later posted on social media about the gun, calling it "my new beauty."

    (4) Police are searching for Michigan school shooting suspect's parents (cnn.com)

    Once again a woman prosecutor doing a kick ass job, sounding confident, using common sense.  Maybe we need to have women take over a lot more than we’re allowed. 
    Couldn't agree more.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 24,978
    social media posts from both shooter AND his mother with the same pic of the gun and mags in an open case.

    his stating "my new beauty"  hers stating "his early xmas present"
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 5,725
    mickeyrat said:
    social media posts from both shooter AND his mother with the same pic of the gun and mags in an open case.

    his stating "my new beauty"  hers stating "his early xmas present"
    That’s hot. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 24,978
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  • dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 19,998
    Neat. 

    They should get the Shirley Jackson treatment from the friends and family of the deceased children. 

    But more than likely, they’ll be out on bail and maybe running for office before we know it. 
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 5,725
    Did I miss this?!! Holy fuck dude. Good old fashioned  Father vs son free for all match. 

  • Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 717
    edited December 2021
    I’m not sticking up for this kid, but wow those parents. That kid never had a chance

    parents were never going to get him the help he obviously needed. Now you’ve got a kid with probably serious mental issues, being tried as an adult.

    no excuse for what he did, but I’m more mad at the parents. 

    Running away when your child is in custody tells you all you need to know 
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 5,725
    I’m not sticking up for this kid, but wow those parents. That kid never had a chance

    parents were never going to get him the help he obviously needed. Now you’ve got a kid with probably serious mental issues, being tried as an adult.

    no excuse for what he did, but I’m more mad at the parents. 

    Running away when your child is in custody tells you all you need to know 
    Oh hell yea. The parents are dogshit. The father allegedly gets mad his son has a gun so he…… gets his gun and engages in a shoot out with him. Makes a lot of sense. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 24,978
    nicknyr15 said:
    I’m not sticking up for this kid, but wow those parents. That kid never had a chance

    parents were never going to get him the help he obviously needed. Now you’ve got a kid with probably serious mental issues, being tried as an adult.

    no excuse for what he did, but I’m more mad at the parents. 

    Running away when your child is in custody tells you all you need to know 
    Oh hell yea. The parents are dogshit. The father allegedly gets mad his son has a gun so he…… gets his gun and engages in a shoot out with him. Makes a lot of sense. 

    they were talking about the school shooters parents on michigan.

    not your video.
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 5,725
    mickeyrat said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    I’m not sticking up for this kid, but wow those parents. That kid never had a chance

    parents were never going to get him the help he obviously needed. Now you’ve got a kid with probably serious mental issues, being tried as an adult.

    no excuse for what he did, but I’m more mad at the parents. 

    Running away when your child is in custody tells you all you need to know 
    Oh hell yea. The parents are dogshit. The father allegedly gets mad his son has a gun so he…… gets his gun and engages in a shoot out with him. Makes a lot of sense. 

    they were talking about the school shooters parents on michigan.

    not your video.
    Ohhh thank you. I still maintain that stance. They’re dogshit too. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 24,978
    nicknyr15 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    I’m not sticking up for this kid, but wow those parents. That kid never had a chance

    parents were never going to get him the help he obviously needed. Now you’ve got a kid with probably serious mental issues, being tried as an adult.

    no excuse for what he did, but I’m more mad at the parents. 

    Running away when your child is in custody tells you all you need to know 
    Oh hell yea. The parents are dogshit. The father allegedly gets mad his son has a gun so he…… gets his gun and engages in a shoot out with him. Makes a lot of sense. 

    they were talking about the school shooters parents on michigan.

    not your video.
    Ohhh thank you. I still maintain that stance. They’re dogshit too. 

    figured.....
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 9,631
    dankind said:
    Neat. 

    They should get the Shirley Jackson treatment from the friends and family of the deceased children. 

    But more than likely, they’ll be out on bail and maybe running for office before we know it. 
    Or gigs as talking heads on foQsnooze,  oan, newsmax, or infowars
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 10,739

    U.S. congressman posts family Christmas picture with guns, days after school shooting


    Just a normal American…

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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 10,739
    If the school officials had called the cops like YOU SHOULD DO in situations like this then everyone is likely alive, a 15 year old kid would be getting help needed (hopefully) and families aren’t grieving.  The school fucked up…

    you can blame the Neanderthal parents if people choose…but calling the parents over qualified law enforcement to deal with this situation showed a serious lack of judgement by the school…

    Expecting all parents to show good judgement is ludicrous.  The only qualification in being a parent is the ability to have sex.  I expect school board staff to be wiser than parents…
    Give Peas A Chance…
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  • Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 717
    edited December 2021
    If the school officials had called the cops like YOU SHOULD DO in situations like this then everyone is likely alive, a 15 year old kid would be getting help needed (hopefully) and families aren’t grieving.  The school fucked up…

    you can blame the Neanderthal parents if people choose…but calling the parents over qualified law enforcement to deal with this situation showed a serious lack of judgement by the school…

    Expecting all parents to show good judgement is ludicrous.  The only qualification in being a parent is the ability to have sex.  I expect school board staff to be wiser than parents…
    The problem with that is there is a huge segment in society who want the parents to have complete control of what their kids learn and how a school operates. School boards are getting overrun with these kinds of people 

    Had the school forced the kid out of school (That day they asked the parents to remove their kid and the parents said no). The school would get slammed for having an “agenda” having a liberal bias etc. 

    since nothing would have happened the school couldn’t show they made the right decision 

    schools are in an impossible position especially in places like Michigan. School boards control the school district and the boards are more frequently made up of  untrained parents and people who want to dictate policy and curriculum  to education professionals 
    Post edited by Cropduster-80 on
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 10,739
    If the school officials had called the cops like YOU SHOULD DO in situations like this then everyone is likely alive, a 15 year old kid would be getting help needed (hopefully) and families aren’t grieving.  The school fucked up…

    you can blame the Neanderthal parents if people choose…but calling the parents over qualified law enforcement to deal with this situation showed a serious lack of judgement by the school…

    Expecting all parents to show good judgement is ludicrous.  The only qualification in being a parent is the ability to have sex.  I expect school board staff to be wiser than parents…
    The problem with that is there is a huge segment in society who want the parents to have complete control of what their kids learn and how a school operates. School boards are getting overrun with these kinds of people 

    Had the school forced the kid out of school (That day they asked the parents to remove their kid and the parents said no). The school would get slammed for having an “agenda” having a liberal bias etc. 

    since nothing would have happened the school couldn’t show they made the right decision 

    schools are in an impossible position especially in places like Michigan. School boards control the school district and the boards are more frequently made up of  untrained parents and people who want to dictate policy and curriculum  to education professionals 
    Tell that to the 4 dead and the numerous injured plus the emotional scarring caused to the survivors, first responders..

    Hurt feelings heal.  Dead is dead.  That’s why you call the police.  They have no emotional attachment to the situation.

    These school officials fucked up and it cost peoples lives and they sent the kid back to class and never checked his back pack…

    The school administrators should be terminated…hopefully the school board is sued into the ground.


    Give Peas A Chance…
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 24,978
    If the school officials had called the cops like YOU SHOULD DO in situations like this then everyone is likely alive, a 15 year old kid would be getting help needed (hopefully) and families aren’t grieving.  The school fucked up…

    you can blame the Neanderthal parents if people choose…but calling the parents over qualified law enforcement to deal with this situation showed a serious lack of judgement by the school…

    Expecting all parents to show good judgement is ludicrous.  The only qualification in being a parent is the ability to have sex.  I expect school board staff to be wiser than parents…
    The problem with that is there is a huge segment in society who want the parents to have complete control of what their kids learn and how a school operates. School boards are getting overrun with these kinds of people 

    Had the school forced the kid out of school (That day they asked the parents to remove their kid and the parents said no). The school would get slammed for having an “agenda” having a liberal bias etc. 

    since nothing would have happened the school couldn’t show they made the right decision 

    schools are in an impossible position especially in places like Michigan. School boards control the school district and the boards are more frequently made up of  untrained parents and people who want to dictate policy and curriculum  to education professionals 
    Tell that to the 4 dead and the numerous injured plus the emotional scarring caused to the survivors, first responders..

    Hurt feelings heal.  Dead is dead.  That’s why you call the police.  They have no emotional attachment to the situation.

    These school officials fucked up and it cost peoples lives and they sent the kid back to class and never checked his back pack…

    The school administrators should be terminated…hopefully the school board is sued into the ground.


    the school had knowledge of the drawings.

    the parents had knowledge of the newly purchased weapon that both the kid and the mom posted on social media stating it was the kids, each using the same picture on their individual posts.

    think the parents shared that little tidbit of informaton?

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 24,978
    meanwhile, out in Colorado.....



      
    Teen shootings in Denver suburb renew focus on gun violence
    By COLLEEN SLEVIN
    11 mins ago

    DENVER (AP) — It was lunchtime on a mild day in the sprawling Denver suburb of Aurora when a truck full of teens pulled into a high school parking lot where students were gathered, and gunfire rang out.

    Three were wounded as others ran in fear.

    One of the boys charged in the Nov. 19 shooting later told investigators he brought his armed friends to an expected gang fight because “it’s the way it is in this town,” court documents said.

    The shooting was one of several involving teenagers within a two-week span that have placed renewed attention on a long-running problem of gun violence and gangs in the state’s third largest city, where the police department has been under scrutiny for its treatment of Black residents. Activists and officials say easy access to guns is contributing to the problem, which has also been exacerbated by the pandemic and its effect particularly on the mental health of minority teens in the city.

    Across the United States, shootings involving children and teenagers have increased in recent years, including 2021. A March report from the Children’s Defense Fund found child and teen shooting deaths reached a 19-year high in 2017 and have remained elevated. Black children and teenagers were four times more likely than whites to be fatally shot.

    Aurora has seen an increase in Black and Latino families and immigrants from around the world as Denver has grown more expensive in recent years. These families of color have been hit harder health-wise but also economically by the COVID-19 pandemic, contributing to mental health problems, said Maisha Fields, an activist who works with youth and families in the city of about 379,000.

    The Nov. 19 shooting started with an argument in the parking lot at Hinkley High School after the truckload of boys arrived. After the initial shots were fired, the pickup drove away, with at least two teens pointing guns from the windows, sending students running in fear, according to police.

    Three 16-year-olds were later charged, including the boy who spoke to investigators about the gang fight.

    Fields, who is also vice president for organizing for the Brady gun control advocacy group, said the teen's attitude about the need to be armed gave her chills. It reminded her of the callousness that led to her brother, Javad Marshall-Fields, and his fiancee, Vivian Wolfe, being shot and killed in Aurora in 2005 as he was preparing to testify against a man charged in the fatal shooting of his friend at a concert.

    Jason McBride, a violence prevention expert who works with teens for the Struggle of Love Foundation in Denver and Aurora, and Aurora City Council member Angela Lawson both said teens have showed them Snapchat posts, where messages disappear, offering guns for sale.

    McBride thinks gangs are to blame for much of the problem — not necessarily the organized Crips and Bloods as in previous years, but smaller, loosely affiliated groups of teens who may not be associated with a particular neighborhood but who get into disputes on social media.

    Some also create their own untraceable guns using a 3-D printer or by buying and assembling parts purchased online, McBride said.

    Generational trauma caused by seeing relatives killed in shootings has also normalized them, he said. And being kept away from school, an escape from problems at home, has strained the mental health of some teens.

    McBride said a 16-year-old recently told him he would use bullets if he got into a fight so he would not have to worry about messing up his clothes.

    “That’s the head space our kids are in,” he said.

    While shootings involving teens are not a new problem in Aurora, ones on or near school grounds are unusual, said Kyla Armstrong-Romero, who was president of the city’s school board until stepping down last week after newly elected members took office. She said she hopes the attention given to the shootings near schools will ignite more interest in the work that needs to be done to prevent teen gun violence, which she said has often been underfunded.

    Lawson agrees that social media fights and the effect of students being required to stay home last year have contributed to the violence. But she thinks gangs are only part of the reason for shootings.

    The city’s original anti-gang program ended after its funding — fines from drivers caught on camera going through red lights — disappeared when voters eliminated the cameras in 2018. In April, the city started a new youth violence prevention program funded by an increase in the marijuana sales tax. However, only three of the planned six positions, including one outreach worker, have been filled, Lawson said.

    With a $1.1 million budget, the city is in the process of recruiting for the remaining positions, city spokesperson Ryan Luby said. Some of the funding will also support community-led efforts, he said.

    Teens in the city also need a dedicated place they can go, possibly one of the city’s recreation centers, where they can participate in organized activities, get access to services including mental health counseling and just talk to others, Lawson said.

    Stemming the violence though will also require help from parents, police and the wider community, she said.

    “It’s all hands on deck,” Lawson said.


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    I think I'll move to Australia


  • If the school officials had called the cops like YOU SHOULD DO in situations like this then everyone is likely alive, a 15 year old kid would be getting help needed (hopefully) and families aren’t grieving.  The school fucked up…

    you can blame the Neanderthal parents if people choose…but calling the parents over qualified law enforcement to deal with this situation showed a serious lack of judgement by the school…

    Expecting all parents to show good judgement is ludicrous.  The only qualification in being a parent is the ability to have sex.  I expect school board staff to be wiser than parents…
    The problem with that is there is a huge segment in society who want the parents to have complete control of what their kids learn and how a school operates. School boards are getting overrun with these kinds of people 

    Had the school forced the kid out of school (That day they asked the parents to remove their kid and the parents said no). The school would get slammed for having an “agenda” having a liberal bias etc. 

    since nothing would have happened the school couldn’t show they made the right decision 

    schools are in an impossible position especially in places like Michigan. School boards control the school district and the boards are more frequently made up of  untrained parents and people who want to dictate policy and curriculum  to education professionals 
    Tell that to the 4 dead and the numerous injured plus the emotional scarring caused to the survivors, first responders..

    Hurt feelings heal.  Dead is dead.  That’s why you call the police.  They have no emotional attachment to the situation.

    These school officials fucked up and it cost peoples lives and they sent the kid back to class and never checked his back pack…

    The school administrators should be terminated…hopefully the school board is sued into the ground.


    The parents fucked up. Full stop. The dad bought the gun for the kid. Had he not done that, everybody would be alive. And if more “responsible” gun owners kept their guns secure, a whole shit ton of other ‘Muricans would be alive.
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 5,725
    If the school officials had called the cops like YOU SHOULD DO in situations like this then everyone is likely alive, a 15 year old kid would be getting help needed (hopefully) and families aren’t grieving.  The school fucked up…

    you can blame the Neanderthal parents if people choose…but calling the parents over qualified law enforcement to deal with this situation showed a serious lack of judgement by the school…

    Expecting all parents to show good judgement is ludicrous.  The only qualification in being a parent is the ability to have sex.  I expect school board staff to be wiser than parents…
    The problem with that is there is a huge segment in society who want the parents to have complete control of what their kids learn and how a school operates. School boards are getting overrun with these kinds of people 

    Had the school forced the kid out of school (That day they asked the parents to remove their kid and the parents said no). The school would get slammed for having an “agenda” having a liberal bias etc. 

    since nothing would have happened the school couldn’t show they made the right decision 

    schools are in an impossible position especially in places like Michigan. School boards control the school district and the boards are more frequently made up of  untrained parents and people who want to dictate policy and curriculum  to education professionals 
    Tell that to the 4 dead and the numerous injured plus the emotional scarring caused to the survivors, first responders..

    Hurt feelings heal.  Dead is dead.  That’s why you call the police.  They have no emotional attachment to the situation.

    These school officials fucked up and it cost peoples lives and they sent the kid back to class and never checked his back pack…

    The school administrators should be terminated…hopefully the school board is sued into the ground.


    The parents fucked up. Full stop. The dad bought the gun for the kid. Had he not done that, everybody would be alive. And if more “responsible” gun owners kept their guns secure, a whole shit ton of other ‘Muricans would be alive.
    According to the sheriff, they’re showing no remorse in jail either. Poor kid probably never had a chance. 
  • nicknyr15 said:
    If the school officials had called the cops like YOU SHOULD DO in situations like this then everyone is likely alive, a 15 year old kid would be getting help needed (hopefully) and families aren’t grieving.  The school fucked up…

    you can blame the Neanderthal parents if people choose…but calling the parents over qualified law enforcement to deal with this situation showed a serious lack of judgement by the school…

    Expecting all parents to show good judgement is ludicrous.  The only qualification in being a parent is the ability to have sex.  I expect school board staff to be wiser than parents…
    The problem with that is there is a huge segment in society who want the parents to have complete control of what their kids learn and how a school operates. School boards are getting overrun with these kinds of people 

    Had the school forced the kid out of school (That day they asked the parents to remove their kid and the parents said no). The school would get slammed for having an “agenda” having a liberal bias etc. 

    since nothing would have happened the school couldn’t show they made the right decision 

    schools are in an impossible position especially in places like Michigan. School boards control the school district and the boards are more frequently made up of  untrained parents and people who want to dictate policy and curriculum  to education professionals 
    Tell that to the 4 dead and the numerous injured plus the emotional scarring caused to the survivors, first responders..

    Hurt feelings heal.  Dead is dead.  That’s why you call the police.  They have no emotional attachment to the situation.

    These school officials fucked up and it cost peoples lives and they sent the kid back to class and never checked his back pack…

    The school administrators should be terminated…hopefully the school board is sued into the ground.


    The parents fucked up. Full stop. The dad bought the gun for the kid. Had he not done that, everybody would be alive. And if more “responsible” gun owners kept their guns secure, a whole shit ton of other ‘Muricans would be alive.
    According to the sheriff, they’re showing no remorse in jail either. Poor kid probably never had a chance. 
    Watch their defiance lead to armed supporters showing up at trial.
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  • nicknyr15 said:
    If the school officials had called the cops like YOU SHOULD DO in situations like this then everyone is likely alive, a 15 year old kid would be getting help needed (hopefully) and families aren’t grieving.  The school fucked up…

    you can blame the Neanderthal parents if people choose…but calling the parents over qualified law enforcement to deal with this situation showed a serious lack of judgement by the school…

    Expecting all parents to show good judgement is ludicrous.  The only qualification in being a parent is the ability to have sex.  I expect school board staff to be wiser than parents…
    The problem with that is there is a huge segment in society who want the parents to have complete control of what their kids learn and how a school operates. School boards are getting overrun with these kinds of people 

    Had the school forced the kid out of school (That day they asked the parents to remove their kid and the parents said no). The school would get slammed for having an “agenda” having a liberal bias etc. 

    since nothing would have happened the school couldn’t show they made the right decision 

    schools are in an impossible position especially in places like Michigan. School boards control the school district and the boards are more frequently made up of  untrained parents and people who want to dictate policy and curriculum  to education professionals 
    Tell that to the 4 dead and the numerous injured plus the emotional scarring caused to the survivors, first responders..

    Hurt feelings heal.  Dead is dead.  That’s why you call the police.  They have no emotional attachment to the situation.

    These school officials fucked up and it cost peoples lives and they sent the kid back to class and never checked his back pack…

    The school administrators should be terminated…hopefully the school board is sued into the ground.


    The parents fucked up. Full stop. The dad bought the gun for the kid. Had he not done that, everybody would be alive. And if more “responsible” gun owners kept their guns secure, a whole shit ton of other ‘Muricans would be alive.
    According to the sheriff, they’re showing no remorse in jail either. Poor kid probably never had a chance. 
    Watch their defiance lead to armed supporters showing up at trial.
    They will just shift their focus from the lockdown protests which transitioned to the racial justice counter protests, to the election protests, to the vaccine protests.  They have a gap in their schedule between now and the inevitable midterm protests 

     so yes, count on it.  Any excuse to have a parade down the middle of the street with assault rifles. 

    I would be shocked if it didn’t happen 
  • Dude is holding a SAW.  Wifey is holding a Tommy Gun and the daughter has an uzi.  That’s some crazy stuff.
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