Ohana Festival Merch

Saltzy23

100 Pacer said:

Saltzy23 said:

I'D RATHER BE said:

Saltzy23 said:

If the regular ones are selling for $500-$600 on eBay, who even knows what this one will go for.

I'm not implying that maybe there was some funny business here, but I'm NOt NOT saying it either.

This crap has to stop. Artist drops are now impossible. I was right on with in in my cart and everything and it sold out instantly. It has to be bots getting them.

Or the artists slipping them out the back door.

These are not exactly regulated securities.

It's gotta be hard to sell for $100, when you know it's gonna be worth like 15X that amount on the secondary market.

I'll tell you right now, if I was the artist, I would do it myself.

Not trying to belittle your disappointment but Ian wouldn’t do that. He wouldn’t risk future work.

Come on man.  How would anyone ever know if these artists were leaking a few of these AP prints to 3rd parties and getting a cut of any secondary market sales?  You think this shit is audited?  And if so, by whom?

And even if it WAS audited, they are not really doing anything illegal. Again, these are not regulated in any way whatsoever.

I am a big watch guy, and this shit happens all the time.  Dealers that by contract need to sell watches for MSRP leak some of the high dollar models out the back door to grey market dealers that give them a cut of the secondary market sale.

Again, I'm not saying it IS happening, but to just blindly assume it's not is naïve.

I'D RATHER BE

SHZA said:

I'D RATHER BE said:

Saltzy23 said:

If the regular ones are selling for $500-$600 on eBay, who even knows what this one will go for.

I'm not implying that maybe there was some funny business here, but I'm NOt NOT saying it either.

This crap has to stop. Artist drops are now impossible. I was right on with in in my cart and everything and it sold out instantly. It has to be bots getting them.

Eh, only 25 available with hundreds or thousands of people trying. Simple math that most aren't going to score. Doesn't have to be bots 

You seem to get almost all the drops. What's your secret?

Giventofly2031

I see nothing has changed around here 

lmckenney24

I'D RATHER BE said:

SHZA said:

I'D RATHER BE said:

Saltzy23 said:

If the regular ones are selling for $500-$600 on eBay, who even knows what this one will go for.

I'm not implying that maybe there was some funny business here, but I'm NOt NOT saying it either.

This crap has to stop. Artist drops are now impossible. I was right on with in in my cart and everything and it sold out instantly. It has to be bots getting them.

Eh, only 25 available with hundreds or thousands of people trying. Simple math that most aren't going to score. Doesn't have to be bots 

You seem to get almost all the drops. What's your secret?

The refreSHZA will never divulge his secrets haha

Guy Dudebro

Saltzy23 said:

I'D RATHER BE said:

Saltzy23 said:

If the regular ones are selling for $500-$600 on eBay, who even knows what this one will go for.

I'm not implying that maybe there was some funny business here, but I'm NOt NOT saying it either.

This crap has to stop. Artist drops are now impossible. I was right on with in in my cart and everything and it sold out instantly. It has to be bots getting them.

Or the artists slipping them out the back door.

These are not exactly regulated securities.

It's gotta be hard to sell for $100, when you know it's gonna be worth like 15X that amount on the secondary market.

I'll tell you right now, if I was the artist, I would do it myself.

I guess nobody has ever noticed Emek’s Wishlist or whatever he calls it? Ol The prints/decks belong to the artist. It’s how he gets paid. He can release a few or all. Why would he release 25 decks for $2500? 

droptheleash9

Why don't artists just charge a higher price for their APs if they know it's going to be in hot demand? I think everyone would rather the money go to the artist than people trying to make a quick buck off of someone else's work.

As for artists selling right to third parties/posting on auction sites, this definitely happens.

Gern Blansten

droptheleash9 said:

Why don't artists just charge a higher price for their APs if they know it's going to be in hot demand? I think everyone would rather the money go to the artist than people trying to make a quick buck off of someone else's work.

As for artists selling right to third parties/posting on auction sites, this definitely happens.

That part baffles me as well.  It must be some sort of contractual thing with PJ but that doesn't even make sense because PJ really isn't benefiting from keeping artist sales low.

Why doesn't the artist just sell as many signed APs as ordered?  We benefit, artist benefits, PJ benefits, etc.

Baffling I say

Saltzy23

Gern Blansten said:

droptheleash9 said:

Why don't artists just charge a higher price for their APs if they know it's going to be in hot demand? I think everyone would rather the money go to the artist than people trying to make a quick buck off of someone else's work.

As for artists selling right to third parties/posting on auction sites, this definitely happens.

That part baffles me as well.  It must be some sort of contractual thing with PJ but that doesn't even make sense because PJ really isn't benefiting from keeping artist sales low.

Why doesn't the artist just sell as many signed APs as ordered?  We benefit, artist benefits, PJ benefits, etc.

Baffling I say

Meh, that would destroy a lot of the value, which let's face it, is important when we are talking about art.

I just think they need to raise the sales price.

I would have dropped $500 on this skateboard today, and directly where the artist would get the profit.

If these guys AREN'T leaking a few, it's gonna be infuriating to see your art, that you charged $100 for, selling for many many multiples that amount on eBay.

Again, I'm not even against it.  If it was me, I would absolutely do it myself.

KM73780

The challenge and the rush are all part of the fun

lmckenney24

KM73780 said:

The challenge and the rush are all part of the fun

I agree with that, 100%

SHZA

I'D RATHER BE said:

SHZA said:

I'D RATHER BE said:

Saltzy23 said:

If the regular ones are selling for $500-$600 on eBay, who even knows what this one will go for.

I'm not implying that maybe there was some funny business here, but I'm NOt NOT saying it either.

This crap has to stop. Artist drops are now impossible. I was right on with in in my cart and everything and it sold out instantly. It has to be bots getting them.

Eh, only 25 available with hundreds or thousands of people trying. Simple math that most aren't going to score. Doesn't have to be bots 

You seem to get almost all the drops. What's your secret?

I strike out as much as anyone especially if it's a small run like this. I completely forgot about this drop. I'm sure bots play a role but some are scoring without bots through a combination of practice and luck 

KM73780

I’ve never scored something 25 or less. 50 or 100 available, I’m pretty confident I can land. 

rlic80

Encore Weekend Ames Bros poster available via official PJ store now.

2021 PEARL JAM OHANA 10/2 POSTER

https://shop.pearljam.com/collections/featured/products/2021-pearl-jam-ohana-10-2-poster

Saltzy23

Sold out.

AHHHHH!!!!!

lmckenney24

Saltzy23 said:

Sold out.

AHHHHH!!!!!

Did you miss it?

Saltzy23

lmckenney24 said:

Saltzy23 said:

Sold out.

AHHHHH!!!!!

Did you miss it?

Guess.

lmckenney24

Saltzy23 said:

lmckenney24 said:

Saltzy23 said:

Sold out.

AHHHHH!!!!!

Did you miss it?

Guess.

LOL, so thats a yes?

apirk72

I am not going to pretend about knowing art world or even really understand it, but I would think that if an artists art went for insane amount on secondary markets that would be incredibly valuable to the artist, maybe more so then selling them for more.  

SHZA

Saltzy23 said:

Gern Blansten said:

droptheleash9 said:

Why don't artists just charge a higher price for their APs if they know it's going to be in hot demand? I think everyone would rather the money go to the artist than people trying to make a quick buck off of someone else's work.

As for artists selling right to third parties/posting on auction sites, this definitely happens.

That part baffles me as well.  It must be some sort of contractual thing with PJ but that doesn't even make sense because PJ really isn't benefiting from keeping artist sales low.

Why doesn't the artist just sell as many signed APs as ordered?  We benefit, artist benefits, PJ benefits, etc.

Baffling I say

Meh, that would destroy a lot of the value, which let's face it, is important when we are talking about art.

I just think they need to raise the sales price.

I would have dropped $500 on this skateboard today, and directly where the artist would get the profit.

If these guys AREN'T leaking a few, it's gonna be infuriating to see your art, that you charged $100 for, selling for many many multiples that amount on eBay.

Again, I'm not even against it.  If it was me, I would absolutely do it myself.

You are right about larger editions killing the value but the same would be true of jacking up the price. The demand would plummet at $500. Insane demand creates buzz for the next drop.

Giventofly2031

Giventofly2031

^^ not for sale 

demetrios

Giventofly2031 said:

100 Pacer

👏 

JB56195

Just a quick question.  Does anyone have any idea why some artists like Ames have 100 AP, 80 variants, and a handful of GID for Ohana while Ian Williams has 100 AP variants of the festival show.  Why not let him sell variants and APs?  Only helps the artist, doesn't hurt overall poster sales, makes a few more fans happy and, and doesn't hurt the band.

Klausen and Munk has had both APs and variants for shows in the past so it can't just be Barry's relationship with the band.

lotsalemon

Giventofly2031 said:

^^ not for sale 

congrats!

Saltzy23

@lmckenney24 is a man amongst men.

Saltzy23

Giventofly2031 said:

Whoa.

RS65573

Giventofly2031 said:

^^ not for sale 

Score of the day! Glad someone got it. Congrats man.

lmckenney24

Saltzy23 said:

@lmckenney24 is a man amongst men.
 

on2legs

JB56195 said:

Just a quick question.  Does anyone have any idea why some artists like Ames have 100 AP, 80 variants, and a handful of GID for Ohana while Ian Williams has 100 AP variants of the festival show.  Why not let him sell variants and APs?  Only helps the artist, doesn't hurt overall poster sales, makes a few more fans happy and, and doesn't hurt the band.

Klausen and Munk has had both APs and variants for shows in the past so it can't just be Barry's relationship with the band.

It’s up to the band.  I’m assuming since Ames is the OG for PJ posters, they get the best deal.