Pearl Jam albums in Dolby Atmos surround

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  • bjmjpl
    bjmjpl Posts: 135
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    KISS Destroyer is coming out in Atmos on a bluray disc:


    This is awesome, the more the better, this is really picking up some steam... 

    Total game changer 
  • strilo
    strilo Portland OR Posts: 496
    Never got into KISS.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    strilo said:
    Never got into KISS.
    Who ever could.

    But you should try their "Unmasked" album from 1980. Thank me later.


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • AO253126
    AO253126 Posts: 366
    strilo said:
    You cannot stream or download the Atmos content from Apple without subscribing to Apple Music. 
    Thank you.
  • strilo
    strilo Portland OR Posts: 496
    Does anyone have Tidal to say for sure if the Atmos or 360 mixes are available there?
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    strilo said:
    Does anyone have Tidal to say for sure if the Atmos or 360 mixes are available there?
    The last comment I read weeks back was the PJ stuff wasn't up there yet. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    Wait, so there is a different vocal track on Release?!
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • foriginalsin
    foriginalsin Posts: 715
    edited September 2021
    strilo said:
    Does anyone have Tidal to say for sure if the Atmos or 360 mixes are available there?
    I have tidal, and the only available versions for No Code and Ten are the Sony Reality 360 versions on my iphone. They still do not have the Atmos mixes on there. On the TV app which supports Dolby Atmos, (and I have listened to several other albums of different artists in Atmos, Automatic for the people etc), I still cannot find the atmos mixes.
  • strilo
    strilo Portland OR Posts: 496
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Wait, so there is a different vocal track on Release?!
    Yes. They appear to have used a vocal recording from 2013 instead of the 1991 original. It's an odd choice, IMHO, but I don't mind it. I only listen to the Atmos mix when I am sitting at my home theater system. In headphones, I still prefer Redux, which has the original vocal performance from Ed.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    edited September 2021
    strilo said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Wait, so there is a different vocal track on Release?!
    Yes. They appear to have used a vocal recording from 2013 instead of the 1991 original. It's an odd choice, IMHO, but I don't mind it. I only listen to the Atmos mix when I am sitting at my home theater system. In headphones, I still prefer Redux, which has the original vocal performance from Ed.
    Is it really the audio from the Out of the Furnace-soundtrack version? So he sings "Oh dear Rod" instead of "Oh dear Dad" at like 3 minutes into the song? 

    Bizarre if they changed the vocals. Whether it's on purpose or a fuck up. This is like the Who you are-situation. I have a feeling Pearl Jam doesn't keep that good track of their stuff....


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  • strilo
    strilo Portland OR Posts: 496
    Yes that's exactly it. It's the Out of the Furnace version for sure. He says Oh dear Rod.
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    Who's Rod? 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    edited September 2021
    2-feign-reluctance said:
    Who's Rod? 
    "Casey Affleck as Rodney Baze Jr."

    Hopefully someone in Eddies life also (For sure it must be)?

    Or is the new ATMOS version of Release stuck with referencing a movie that came and went in 2013...

    ITS NOT EVEN CERTIFIED FRESH ON ROTTEN TOMATOES



    A nightmare on elm street is though. Praise the lord.


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  • strilo
    strilo Portland OR Posts: 496
    I assumed it was his brother. Didn't he have a brother who died?
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  • dobyblue
    dobyblue Posts: 84
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    KISS Destroyer is coming out in Atmos on a bluray disc:


    This is really what we need more of, not necessarily at that price point though. Blu-ray gives you lossless TrueHD/Atmos whereas streaming Atmos is always lossy DD+/Atmos. Lossless on Apple only refers to stereo tracks.

    When comparing Steven Wilson’s Future Bites I found my Blu-ray ($25) sounded notably better than the Tidal Atmos version, and my Bob Marley Legend 5.1 BD sounded better than the Tidal Atmos version, all in terms of fidelity.

    There are many Atmos mixes of studio music on BD now, sadly none of Pearl Jam’s have made it. I would snap up BD releases of No Code and Ten for $30/ea in a heartbeat.

    Tragically Hip’s Road Apples has an Atmos BD coming out next month, Loreena McKenna’s The Visit also, and I just ordered the Steven Wilson Atmos mix of the 1975 Gentle Giant album on CD+BD for $26.
  • dobyblue
    dobyblue Posts: 84
    bazzer said:
    strilo said:
    I find Atmos in headphones to be largely pointless and silly. The only real benefit to me is if the Atmos mix itself has benefited from some overall improvement in fidelity. Many times when doing these mixes, they go back to the original source multitracks and do new high resolution transfers which can make things sound better, cleaner, less hiss, etc. Other than that sort of general sound quality improvement, I find Atmos in headphones do not really accomplish any sort of significant "3D" sound. I just think you need a surround sound system in order to do that. And No Code or Ten in Atmos on a 5.1 system (and more) IS a game changing experience for both albums. 
    But, you do only have two ears?
    That’s for hearing though, the correct analogy would be does real life sound come at you only from two points like headphones Project or from all around you like an Atmos system comes closer to representing. Listening to a movie in 2.0, if gunfire is coming from behind you it will not sound that way from a L/R stereo system. With surround the sound will be broadcast from behind you etc
  • bazzer
    bazzer Posts: 3,126
    edited October 2021
    dobyblue said:
    bazzer said:
    strilo said:
    I find Atmos in headphones to be largely pointless and silly. The only real benefit to me is if the Atmos mix itself has benefited from some overall improvement in fidelity. Many times when doing these mixes, they go back to the original source multitracks and do new high resolution transfers which can make things sound better, cleaner, less hiss, etc. Other than that sort of general sound quality improvement, I find Atmos in headphones do not really accomplish any sort of significant "3D" sound. I just think you need a surround sound system in order to do that. And No Code or Ten in Atmos on a 5.1 system (and more) IS a game changing experience for both albums. 
    But, you do only have two ears?
    That’s for hearing though, the correct analogy would be does real life sound come at you only from two points like headphones Project or from all around you like an Atmos system comes closer to representing. Listening to a movie in 2.0, if gunfire is coming from behind you it will not sound that way from a L/R stereo system. With surround the sound will be broadcast from behind you etc
    Sure, but wherever the sound comes from, it gets to your brain via a hole on either side of your head for most people. Therefore the sound should be able to be modelled as two (almost) point sources.

    If you could perfectly capture the sound as it arrived at each ear and then perfectly reproduce that, how would it sound different? And if you can't do it perfectly, how close is "good enough"?
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  • bjmjpl
    bjmjpl Posts: 135
    No tidal Atmos still? Going to cancel tidal I guess and move to Apple music just for this... Sigh 
  • strilo
    strilo Portland OR Posts: 496
    Ten Club sent an email mentioning Vs. and Lightning Bolt have anniversaries in October. Did anyone else immediately wonder if that means those two albums might be next to get Atmos mixes released?
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  • desolatejoy
    desolatejoy London Posts: 351
    strilo said:
    Ten Club sent an email mentioning Vs. and Lightning Bolt have anniversaries in October. Did anyone else immediately wonder if that means those two albums might be next to get Atmos mixes released?
    Let’s hope so…can you imagine how good Indifference will sound in DA?! 🤯
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