So speaking of spicy what cities that have not been hit in awhile would you love to see get the arena show treatment this spring/fall?
Louisville!
I agree.
PJ management have said twice that they’re never playing Louisville because they don’t like the ticketing practices of the arena.
What do they do differently? I can’t imagine it could be worse than TM for the Earthings tour.
Maybe it’s not a Live Nation venue?
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Will this be the year where the setlist variability starts to decrease? I don’t think they’ll do 30+ song nights regularly anymore. The sets are all going to be Gigaton heavy. Between that, the 5-7 hits they play every night, plus the inevitable covers and Earthling songs that’ll find their way onto the setlist, how much variety can we expect?
I was thinking about this too. Especially seeing how static these Earthling shows have been (including Dirty Frank). Plus the SHN and Ohana sets weren't remarkably different, granted festival sets. With that said - Ed was talking about PJ's setlists on Smartless and he seems very aware that a number of people catch half a dozen+ shows on tour because of the variety of experience. I would expect sets to be Gigaton heavy but still quite unique and yes probably fewer 30+ marathons
I seriously doubt that there will be any Earthling songs on the PJ setlists. Maybe in a few years, but not now.
I agree. Not too many of these songs I’d want to replace with a PJ song during a show. Not that I dislike the album, maybe PJ playing it would make me like it more
Not trying to drag the thread down but interesting reading the fan views who felt like Josh’s absence made a significant impact from Chicago N1 to N2 on quality of songs and setlist.
DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
So speaking of spicy what cities that have not been hit in awhile would you love to see get the arena show treatment this spring/fall?
Louisville!
I agree.
PJ management have said twice that they’re never playing Louisville because they don’t like the ticketing practices of the arena.
What do they do differently? I can’t imagine it could be worse than TM for the Earthings tour.
They’ve probably got really, really good seats that go to University of Louisville season ticket holders that they don’t wanna give to 10c. I’ve got a friend who’s a Predators season ticket holder and he gets 10th row to any concert at the arena. When PJ announced the Nashville show the best he could get was upper deck behind the stage.
Ed’s comment of “see you in the summer” at the end of his second Chicago show makes me think it’s Wrigley again. Always seemed likely but now it feels like a certainty. If the UC was the plan, as originally thought for the second leg of 2020, we’d expect that to be a Fall show. I really hope UC doesn’t get the axe. Wrigley is fun but getting repetitive.
Ed’s comment of “see you in the summer” at the end of his second Chicago show makes me think it’s Wrigley again. Always seemed likely but now it feels like a certainty. If the UC was the plan, as originally thought for the second leg of 2020, we’d expect that to be a Fall show. I really hope UC doesn’t get the axe. Wrigley is fun but getting repetitive.
I never read much into Ed's comments at the ends of shows.
"I'm a lucky man, to count on both hands the [shows I've done]. Some folks just have one, others they got none..."
Ed’s comment of “see you in the summer” at the end of his second Chicago show makes me think it’s Wrigley again. Always seemed likely but now it feels like a certainty. If the UC was the plan, as originally thought for the second leg of 2020, we’d expect that to be a Fall show. I really hope UC doesn’t get the axe. Wrigley is fun but getting repetitive.
I never read much into Ed's comments at the ends of shows.
Very true usually but when was the last time he said something along the lines of see you in a couple of months? This is not like he is saying see you next year like he sometimes does and more specific to a season in the same calendar year. Has to mean Wrigley to me is happening.
Ed’s comment of “see you in the summer” at the end of his second Chicago show makes me think it’s Wrigley again. Always seemed likely but now it feels like a certainty. If the UC was the plan, as originally thought for the second leg of 2020, we’d expect that to be a Fall show. I really hope UC doesn’t get the axe. Wrigley is fun but getting repetitive.
I never read much into Ed's comments at the ends of shows.
Very true usually but when was the last time he said something along the lines of see you in a couple of months? This is not like he is saying see you next year like he sometimes does and more specific to a season in the same calendar year. Has to mean Wrigley to me is happening.
I've heard him say, "See you tomorrow" at night 2 of 2, and I'm pretty sure Fenway 2016 he said, "See you in the fall."
"I'm a lucky man, to count on both hands the [shows I've done]. Some folks just have one, others they got none..."
Yeah, I wouldn’t read entirely to much into what Ed said. Then again, Jeff got interviewed by Preston and Steve on WMMR a few weeks back and he kept saying they have a bunch of stuff “penciled in” for the US this year and that they were finalizing some stuff, and that Ed is basically testing the waters. But after the announcement of the Baltimore show, it makes me think that maybe the dates are finalized they are just waiting to announce them. Possibly after the Earthlings tour. Who knows though you can never tell with PJ.
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2006: Camden 1
2008: Washington DC
2009: Philly 1, Philly 2, Philly 3, Philly 4
2013: Philly 1, Philly 2, Baltimore
2016: Philly 1, Philly 2,
2017: Temple of The Dog Philly 2
Ed’s comment of “see you in the summer” at the end of his second Chicago show makes me think it’s Wrigley again. Always seemed likely but now it feels like a certainty. If the UC was the plan, as originally thought for the second leg of 2020, we’d expect that to be a Fall show. I really hope UC doesn’t get the axe. Wrigley is fun but getting repetitive.
I never read much into Ed's comments at the ends of shows.
Very true usually but when was the last time he said something along the lines of see you in a couple of months? This is not like he is saying see you next year like he sometimes does and more specific to a season in the same calendar year. Has to mean Wrigley to me is happening.
I've heard him say, "See you tomorrow" at night 2 of 2, and I'm pretty sure Fenway 2016 he said, "See you in the fall."
Lol thats awesome. Eddie being Eddie for sure. Ok I give this 10% weight of actually meaning something and if it happens it is just a coincidence.
When they played Hamilton 2011 I’m pretty sure I heard Ed say “see you in March 2020” at the end of the show.
However I may have imagined that.
1996.....Toronto 2005.....Hamilton 2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton 2013.....London, Buffalo 2014.....Detroit 2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1 2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2 2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto 2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2 2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2 2025.....????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Ed’s comment of “see you in the summer” at the end of his second Chicago show makes me think it’s Wrigley again. Always seemed likely but now it feels like a certainty. If the UC was the plan, as originally thought for the second leg of 2020, we’d expect that to be a Fall show. I really hope UC doesn’t get the axe. Wrigley is fun but getting repetitive.
Interesting, I'm sure that is right. Hard to complain too much since they've hit Chicago as much or more than any other city over the last decade. But Wrigley is a terrible concert venue. Hopefully I will be able to swing travel to an arena show or two.
Isn’t it possible he was saying this in reference to him attending a Cubs game over the summer?
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I just watched it on YouTube. He says “ see you this summer at Wrigley FIeld On Friday August 12th, where we will open with Can”t Deny Me”
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Ed’s comment of “see you in the summer” at the end of his second Chicago show makes me think it’s Wrigley again. Always seemed likely but now it feels like a certainty. If the UC was the plan, as originally thought for the second leg of 2020, we’d expect that to be a Fall show. I really hope UC doesn’t get the axe. Wrigley is fun but getting repetitive.
Call me crazy but I think they might play lollapallooza. Which is CHI in the summer
Isn’t it possible he was saying this in reference to him attending a Cubs game over the summer?
or just "See you all this summer" as in we are touring and etc.. not specific to the city just the tour. Either way its a good thing.
I think this is the most likely. That said, he could have been hinting at a Chicago show this summer, I just don't like seeing people get their hopes up based on reading into a comment at the end of a show.
"I'm a lucky man, to count on both hands the [shows I've done]. Some folks just have one, others they got none..."
Speaking of getting hopes up, here's my prediction fit three dates based on nothing but my own pessimism:
Toronto May 4th Nashville May 21st St Louis May 23rd (these last two might swap)
These are the 3 shows we have tickets to. My wife is getting her Masters. Last class is May 4th, graduation is May 22nd. So, I'm calling it right now that we won't be able to make it to any of them.
"I'm a lucky man, to count on both hands the [shows I've done]. Some folks just have one, others they got none..."
Speaking of getting hopes up, here's my prediction fit three dates based on nothing but my own pessimism:
Toronto May 4th Nashville May 21st St Louis May 23rd (these last two might swap)
These are the 3 shows we have tickets to. My wife is getting her Masters. Last class is May 4th, graduation is May 22nd. So, I'm calling it right now that we won't be able to make it to any of them.
Nope
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Ed’s comment of “see you in the summer” at the end of his second Chicago show makes me think it’s Wrigley again. Always seemed likely but now it feels like a certainty. If the UC was the plan, as originally thought for the second leg of 2020, we’d expect that to be a Fall show. I really hope UC doesn’t get the axe. Wrigley is fun but getting repetitive.
I never read much into Ed's comments at the ends of shows.
Very true usually but when was the last time he said something along the lines of see you in a couple of months? This is not like he is saying see you next year like he sometimes does and more specific to a season in the same calendar year. Has to mean Wrigley to me is happening.
I've heard him say, "See you tomorrow" at night 2 of 2, and I'm pretty sure Fenway 2016 he said, "See you in the fall."
I also heard him say we'll never NOT place Boise again, and they proceeded to skip Boise on every single tour since
Speaking of getting hopes up, here's my prediction fit three dates based on nothing but my own pessimism:
Toronto May 4th Nashville May 21st St Louis May 23rd (these last two might swap)
These are the 3 shows we have tickets to. My wife is getting her Masters. Last class is May 4th, graduation is May 22nd. So, I'm calling it right now that we won't be able to make it to any of them.
Nope
Could still be on the 23rd, with St Louis on the 21st. I hope I'm wrong, I'm just gearing up for this to avoid crushing disappointment.
"I'm a lucky man, to count on both hands the [shows I've done]. Some folks just have one, others they got none..."
It really makes no sense to me to not do all the rescheduled dates at once in April and May. Cases have sharply dropped, and mandates are getting lifted. Who knows where the fuck we will be in the Fall
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Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
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"He made the deal with the devil, we get to play with him.
He goes to hell, of course. We're going to heaven."
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"He made the deal with the devil, we get to play with him.
He goes to hell, of course. We're going to heaven."
2006: Camden 1
2008: Washington DC
2009: Philly 1, Philly 2, Philly 3, Philly 4
2013: Philly 1, Philly 2, Baltimore
2016: Philly 1, Philly 2,
2017: Temple of The Dog Philly 2
2005.....Hamilton
2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
2013.....London, Buffalo
2014.....Detroit
2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
2025.....????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
10.08.00 Alpine Valley
09.23.02 Chicago
06.18.03 Chicago | 06.21.03 Alpine Valley
10.03.04 Grand Rapids
10.05.05 Chicago
05.16.06 Chicago | 05.17.06 Chicago | 06.29.06 Milwaukee
08.02.07 Chicago | 08.05.07 Chicago
08.23.09 Chicago | 08.24.09 Chicago
05.07.10 Noblesville | 05.09.10 Cleveland
09.03.11 Alpine Valley | 09.04.11 Alpine Valley
07.19.13 Chicago
10.17.14 Moline
08.20.16 Chicago
08.18.18 Chicago
09.18.22 St. Louis
09.05.23 Chicago
2005.....Hamilton
2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
2013.....London, Buffalo
2014.....Detroit
2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
2025.....????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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Hartford 10.02.96 | Mansfield 2 09.16.98 | Mansfield 1 08.29.00 | Mansfield 1 07.02.03 | Mansfield 3 07.11.03 | Boston 2 05.25.06 | Tampa 04.11.16 | Fenway 1 08.05.16 | Fenway 2 08.07.16 | Fenway 1 09.02.18 | Fenway 2 09.04.18 | Baltimore 03.28.20 | Hamilton 09.06.22 | Toronto 09.08.22 | Nashville 09.16.22 | St Louis 09.18.22 | Baltimore 09.12.24 | Fenway 1 09.15.24 | Fenway 2 09.17.24
"He made the deal with the devil, we get to play with him.
He goes to hell, of course. We're going to heaven."
Toronto May 4th
Nashville May 21st
St Louis May 23rd (these last two might swap)
These are the 3 shows we have tickets to. My wife is getting her Masters. Last class is May 4th, graduation is May 22nd. So, I'm calling it right now that we won't be able to make it to any of them.
Hartford 10.02.96 | Mansfield 2 09.16.98 | Mansfield 1 08.29.00 | Mansfield 1 07.02.03 | Mansfield 3 07.11.03 | Boston 2 05.25.06 | Tampa 04.11.16 | Fenway 1 08.05.16 | Fenway 2 08.07.16 | Fenway 1 09.02.18 | Fenway 2 09.04.18 | Baltimore 03.28.20 | Hamilton 09.06.22 | Toronto 09.08.22 | Nashville 09.16.22 | St Louis 09.18.22 | Baltimore 09.12.24 | Fenway 1 09.15.24 | Fenway 2 09.17.24
"He made the deal with the devil, we get to play with him.
He goes to hell, of course. We're going to heaven."
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
I also heard him say we'll never NOT place Boise again, and they proceeded to skip Boise on every single tour since
Hartford 10.02.96 | Mansfield 2 09.16.98 | Mansfield 1 08.29.00 | Mansfield 1 07.02.03 | Mansfield 3 07.11.03 | Boston 2 05.25.06 | Tampa 04.11.16 | Fenway 1 08.05.16 | Fenway 2 08.07.16 | Fenway 1 09.02.18 | Fenway 2 09.04.18 | Baltimore 03.28.20 | Hamilton 09.06.22 | Toronto 09.08.22 | Nashville 09.16.22 | St Louis 09.18.22 | Baltimore 09.12.24 | Fenway 1 09.15.24 | Fenway 2 09.17.24
"He made the deal with the devil, we get to play with him.
He goes to hell, of course. We're going to heaven."