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  • Celticskemba8Celticskemba8 Posts: 333
    PJNB said:
    woolyman said:
    Ontario just dropped the proof of vax policy as of march 1...... also - FULL capacity - march 1!!!!
    That is awesome! Really hope this is the last time we have to talk about this and there is no need to flip flop on restrictions down the road again. 
    Elton John cancelled his Toronto shows too early!

    Lets do it PJ!
  • Weston1283Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 4,806
    45 minutes until we try again next Monday at 1 PM
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 91,011
    woolyman said:
    PJNB said:
    woolyman said:
    Ontario just dropped the proof of vax policy as of march 1...... also - FULL capacity - march 1!!!!
    That is awesome! Really hope this is the last time we have to talk about this and there is no need to flip flop on restrictions down the road again. 
    AMEN!!!
    Quebec is going full on March 14 I believe.............

    DATES, DATES! 

    With Canada now good - come on PJ :)


  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,424
    Weston1283 said:
    45 minutes until we try again next Monday at 1 PM

    Doesn't really feel like today does it...  

    I would imagine we would get one or two hints on social media at the very least. Maybe Stay Tuned is all we are getting though. 
  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,946
    Friday, 2/25 or Tuesday, 3/1 are my guesses.
  • Hawk123Hawk123 Posts: 2,026
    edited February 2022
    woolyman said:
    Ontario just dropped the proof of vax policy as of march 1...... also - FULL capacity - march 1!!!!
    Great news
  • JojoRiceJojoRice Posts: 4,203
    I still think it's after Ed's tour finishes up.  
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,424
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    They are allowing 30 days for refunds. 

    Lets go PJ your next! 
  • Weston1283Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 4,806
    PJNB said:
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    They are allowing 30 days for refunds. 

    Lets go PJ your next! 
    Nice!

    Original Gigaton shows announced 9 and a half weeks before start of tour.  We’re 11 weeks from May.  If we don’t hear something by the 28th, I won’t know what to think
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  • RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 4,874
    Weston1283 said:
    PJNB said:
    May be an image of text

    They are allowing 30 days for refunds. 

    Lets go PJ your next! 
    Nice!

    Original Gigaton shows announced 9 and a half weeks before start of tour.  We’re 11 weeks from May.  If we don’t hear something by the 28th, I won’t know what to think
    I would think that means they announce in March :)
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  • given2fly23given2fly23 Posts: 5,902
    Can't believe RATM had to push half their tour to early 2023.  Tells me that venue availability/routing is definitely an issue.  Holding tickets for Alpine, United Center x 2 and Detroit x 2.

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  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Posts: 3,392
    PJNB said:
    May be an image of text

    They are allowing 30 days for refunds. 

    Lets go PJ your next! 
    Yeah MSG held!!
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  • MakeUSmileMakeUSmile Posts: 1,128
    Oh man. 
    can you feel this world with your heart and not your brain?
  • HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 5,112
    edited February 2022
    I take that postponement as good news. Quick turnaround on new dates. Maybe the May shows end around the 15th-20th so they have a few weeks open to reschedule any shows that are postponed for a positive test. 

    Edit: Hopefully it’s about Josh or a band member, not just a crew member. Can’t be postponing for one crew member testing positive 
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  • RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 4,874
    HailHailVitalogy said:
    I take that postponement as good news. Quick turnaround on new dates. Maybe the May shows end around the 15th-20th so they have a few weeks open to reschedule any shows that are postponed for a positive test. 

    Edit: Hopefully it’s about Josh or a band member, not just a crew member. Can’t be postponing for one crew member testing positive 
    Crew members are people too! 
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  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Posts: 3,392
    Well that extends the EV tour which theoretically extends when the PJ tour will be announced. 

    If they haven’t already, management will need to sit down and factor in anticipated postponements to the tour schedule. That may further delay the announcement.

    I hope whoever is sick is doing well and recovers quickly!
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,831
    RatherStarved said:
    HailHailVitalogy said:
    I take that postponement as good news. Quick turnaround on new dates. Maybe the May shows end around the 15th-20th so they have a few weeks open to reschedule any shows that are postponed for a positive test. 

    Edit: Hopefully it’s about Josh or a band member, not just a crew member. Can’t be postponing for one crew member testing positive 
    Crew members are people too! 
    Obviously was referring to being able to produce the show.  Would think that someone in the area has experience to run lights or sound for someone on the crew.

    If asymptomatic I think the show should go on and just socially distance.  People are going to be catching Covid for next ten years if not longer.  I don’t know any facts but just stating my opinion if asymptomatic.  This isn’t a job where you can take a sick day for the sniffles (again, only commenting if there are no symptoms).  Thousands have paid for tickets and travel.

  • Douglas12373Douglas12373 Posts: 220
    Given the explicit comments about this being a test run for PJ...anyone else feeling more pessimistic about seeing them at all this year?
  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,946
    Douglas12373 said:
    Given the explicit comments about this being a test run for PJ...anyone else feeling more pessimistic about seeing them at all this year?
    No.

  • ComeToTXComeToTX Posts: 7,730
    Douglas12373 said:
    Given the explicit comments about this being a test run for PJ...anyone else feeling more pessimistic about seeing them at all this year?
    I’m sure they realized after 2 years of this that it was a possibility. 
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,405
    HailHailVitalogy said:
    I take that postponement as good news. Quick turnaround on new dates. Maybe the May shows end around the 15th-20th so they have a few weeks open to reschedule any shows that are postponed for a positive test. 

    Edit: Hopefully it’s about Josh or a band member, not just a crew member. Can’t be postponing for one crew member testing positive 
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  • D-RodD-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,833
    Are they obligated to Covid testing or are they mandated too?   Regardless of the answer now it could be totally different in May.  
        We don’t rapid test for the flu.  And yes I know it’s completely different but eventually we will treat it as such. 
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  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,946
    I'm not sure what protocol is for touring musicians these days, but not testing unless someone is symptomatic would be a good way to approach this. 
  • RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 4,874
    OceansJenny said:
    Well that extends the EV tour which theoretically extends when the PJ tour will be announced. 

    If they haven’t already, management will need to sit down and factor in anticipated postponements to the tour schedule. That may further delay the announcement.

    I hope whoever is sick is doing well and recovers quickly!
    I wonder if somehow it could move up the PJ announcement? Like if they were going to announce after EV Seattle maybe now they do so before EV Seattle? One can dream… 
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  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Posts: 3,392
    Kiss had a guitar tech die due to what was described as lax Covid protocols during their tour. Talk about a sure fire way for PJ to hang it up. 

    Our opinion doesn’t matter - they will continue to do what they feel is best to keep everyone safe.
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  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,444
    One thing is for sure - a lot less people will want to travel to shows with their travel plans seemingly always up in the air with postponements and cancellations around every corner 
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  • tschavtschav Posts: 2,830
    drakeheuer14 said:
    One thing is for sure - a lot less people will want to travel to shows with their travel plans seemingly always up in the air with postponements and cancellations around every corner 
    ^ Not that the band necessarily would plan around the traveling fan schedule, but I bet that is a consideration on attendance impacts to their bottom line (merch sales, concessions, etc). 
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,424
    edited February 2022
    May cases will be a lot more calm. Eddie just had it so he should be safe from catching it again and we do not know if anyone else in the band has had it yet or not. I do not see this hurting any announcement for PJ in the future. 
  • Evel KEvel K Posts: 526
    I used the venue open dates method and got all of them squeezed into May. Anyone want to see the list? Unverified, zero inside intel and purely speculative. 
    Things were different then
  • KL159781KL159781 Posts: 118
    D-Rod said:
    Are they obligated to Covid testing or are they mandated too?   Regardless of the answer now it could be totally different in May.  
        We don’t rapid test for the flu.  And yes I know it’s completely different but eventually we will treat it as such. 
    It’s the unions behind this requiring daily testing of each performer and crew member. There is no just ignoring if someone is asymptomatic and carrying on as normal as suggested, until entire changes within the industry allow for it.
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