I gotta say... all this talk about how vaccine passports are causing 'division' in our society.
The province of Alberta.... a province that did away with all restrictions on July 1st... finally admitted that the pandemic is far from over and that their hospitals are filling up too much once again predominantly with the unvaccinated.
So therefore... restrictions are back. (no shit) Mask mandates are back. (no shit)
And this one really gets me...
They are offering $100 to anyone who gets vaccinated who are not yet.
That means.... to the lazy, immoral, dumb, irresponsible people who did not bother getting a vaccine can now get $100 for doing what 70% of the population already did.
Rewarding the morons.
You want to talk about division in society? I can't wait to hear the blow back about this from people who did the right thing from the start and got the vaccine as soon as possible.
It's a weird time for sure. As of next Wednesday, all state employees in MN need to have shown proof of vaccination or submit weekly Covid tests that are negative. The kicker is that we as the employer need to pay for the tests, allow leave time to get tested during work hours and reimburse mileage if applicable. On the other side, I get why the state is paying for it because they created the work mandates, but all this is doing is divided people more. Now everyone is going to know exactly who is and isn't vaccinated based on who's leaving to get tested every Wednesday. My staff who are vaccinated are annoyed because they're basically giving incentives to the unvaccinated (paying for testing and time off to get tested). I told them they get the health benefit of being vaccinated, but I don't think that really makes it seem fair to them. It's just a giant mess.
I'll admit.. I'm somewhat of an asshole.
When the thought crossed my mind that at least I had the piece of mind of being a good person compared to those who may get $100... that thought lasted about a second and then after that all I could then think about was how badly I would want to beat the shit out of anyone who got money to get vaccinated.
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I gotta say... all this talk about how vaccine passports are causing 'division' in our society.
The province of Alberta.... a province that did away with all restrictions on July 1st... finally admitted that the pandemic is far from over and that their hospitals are filling up too much once again predominantly with the unvaccinated.
So therefore... restrictions are back. (no shit) Mask mandates are back. (no shit)
And this one really gets me...
They are offering $100 to anyone who gets vaccinated who are not yet.
That means.... to the lazy, immoral, dumb, irresponsible people who did not bother getting a vaccine can now get $100 for doing what 70% of the population already did.
Rewarding the morons.
You want to talk about division in society? I can't wait to hear the blow back about this from people who did the right thing from the start and got the vaccine as soon as possible.
I understand the frustration from those already vaccinated, particularly for anyone that could really use $100. That said, if it works, then great. I mean, it probably won't because it would take a lot of people getting vaccinated, but every bit helps.
Government money gets distributed in funny ways. Most of us think it goes disproportionally to the poor; but in many ways (extending roads to wealthy suburbs, as one example), that's not true (not that I can speak for Canada). So, now some of it is going to reward morons. I don't disagree but it's something I, as someone who was vaccinated as soon as he could, can live with, even if it's pathetic that it even has be be considered.
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They tried financial incentives ($100, entry into a lottery to win a million dollars) here in the US; when the carrot quit working, people started trying the stick. So Delta Airlines will be charging unvaccinated employees a fee, and I think corporations will be moving to covid-related surcharges on company health insurance plans for unvaccinated employees.
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I gotta say... all this talk about how vaccine passports are causing 'division' in our society.
The province of Alberta.... a province that did away with all restrictions on July 1st... finally admitted that the pandemic is far from over and that their hospitals are filling up too much once again predominantly with the unvaccinated.
So therefore... restrictions are back. (no shit) Mask mandates are back. (no shit)
And this one really gets me...
They are offering $100 to anyone who gets vaccinated who are not yet.
That means.... to the lazy, immoral, dumb, irresponsible people who did not bother getting a vaccine can now get $100 for doing what 70% of the population already did.
Rewarding the morons.
You want to talk about division in society? I can't wait to hear the blow back about this from people who did the right thing from the start and got the vaccine as soon as possible.
manitoba did it right when they announced the vaccine lottery; it was retroactive to people who had already been vaccinated. since you had to register your appointment with your health card, it was on record and easy to do.
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Fake news but headlines sell. Media fear selling good for business.
lol so you don’t believe that all the idiots out there are going out and taking the animal deworming meds? Cause that sure as shit is happening!
UPDATE: Northeastern Hospital System Sequoyah issued a statement: Although Dr. Jason McElyea is not an employee of NHS Sequoyah, he is affiliated with a medical staffing group that provides coverage for our emergency room. With that said, Dr. McElyea has not worked at our Sallisaw location in over 2 months. NHS Sequoyah has not treated any patients due to complications related to taking ivermectin. This includes not treating any patients for ivermectin overdose. All patients who have visited our emergency room have received medical attention as appropriate. Our hospital has not had to turn away any patients seeking emergency care. We want to reassure our community that our staff is working hard to provide quality healthcare to all patients. We appreciate the opportunity to clarify this issue and as always, we value our community’s support.”
Fake news but headlines sell. Media fear selling good for business.
lol so you don’t believe that all the idiots out there are going out and taking the animal deworming meds? Cause that sure as shit is happening!
I don’t believe that article at all was my point given its fake. If you do well then they accomplished their goal.
Ok I can understand that but it doesn’t negate the fact that idiots are buying the animal meds by the loads and getting sick and then taking up space in emergency rooms already full of Delta patients..
Fake news but headlines sell. Media fear selling good for business.
lol so you don’t believe that all the idiots out there are going out and taking the animal deworming meds? Cause that sure as shit is happening!
I don’t believe that article at all was my point given its fake. If you do well then they accomplished their goal.
Ok I can understand that but it doesn’t negate the fact that idiots are buying the animal meds by the loads and getting sick and then taking up space in emergency rooms already full of Delta patients..
That first article was proven false, no patients there were even seen for dewormer overdose, let alone clogging up the hospitals. It doesn’t sound like it’s that big of an issue as people are making it out to be. In Florida only 27 reported cases. 27 cases in all of Florida for August. Less than 1 a day. That doesn’t make it any less stupid. But anyone claiming they’re taking valuable space just isn’t accurate. And if we’re honest, Florida probably has one of the highest instances.
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Vaccine snob’ travelers head to Guam for sun, sea — and shots By Lyric Li September 03 at 5:00 AM ET TUMON, Guam — Passport: check. Coronavirus test: negative. Temperature: normal. Wearing an N95 mask and face shield, Jimmy Lin lugged his bag full of instant noodles and beachwear out of Guam’s modest airport one recent afternoon. “It feels kind of surreal being here,” said the 37-year-old from Taiwan, who owns a ski resort in Japan that he hasn’t visited since early 2020 because of travel restrictions. “I used to travel abroad at least every other month, and then suddenly the world was closed on me.” Like thousands of Asian tourists who have visited this American outpost in the Pacific since early this summer, Lin was in Guam to get his preferred coronavirus shots — Pfizer-BioNTech’s messenger-RNA doses — under a vaccine tourism initiative designed to offset pandemic losses. [Barbados wants you to work from its beaches during the pandemic] While an increasing number of tourism-reliant countries, such as Italy and Thailand, recognize vaccination records for travel, a vacation abroad remains off-limits for millions of the unvaccinated. Enter Guam, a U.S. territory with ample vaccine supplies and no quarantine restrictions, where more than 80 percent of the eligible population is fully vaccinated. For residents of Taiwan, South Korea and elsewhere, three weeks on a tropical island plus the chance to get doubly dosed equal an opportunity they can’t always get at home because of supply shortages and access issues. “I’m a vaccine snob,” said Lin, who got his first Pfizer shot on Aug. 3 through Guam’s government-sponsored “vacation and vaccination,” or AirV&V;, program, paying $100 for one dose. “Here in Guam I can choose the vaccine I want at an affordable price, but back in Taiwan, all I could do was wait for whatever is available, at who knows when.” Around the world, tourism-dependent places have come up with creative ideas to try to jump-start business devastated by the pandemic. Some have sought to lure digital nomads or allowed visitors to quarantine in resorts. Others have tried travel bubbles that have collapsed when new outbreaks have flared. And while Guam’s AirV&V; initiative can go only a small way to redeeming lost tourist dollars — more than 1.6 million international visitors graced these shores in 2019 — businesses say it’s worth a shot.
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Is there anyone from Australia on here anymore? We just got done talking to our friend in Melbourne and they are dealing out some pretty hard consequences if you don’t wear a mask.
Oh and I was feeling like crap the next day of my 2nd shot. I was in bed at 230 and slept in a pool of sweat for the next 4 hours. Everything went away by 7 and I had an adult beverage by 9.
I haven’t felt that shitty in many years. Glad it’s hopefully over with for me now.
Got my second jab today. If nothing else, I’m just glad my life will be easier for attending events, traveling, etc. My wife is a nurse and it’s interesting to hear that a few of her coworkers will be refusing the shot and might lose their job because of it as her system is requiring it by the end of November.
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Got my second jab today. If nothing else, I’m just glad my life will be easier for attending events, traveling, etc. My wife is a nurse and it’s interesting to hear that a few of her coworkers will be refusing the shot and might lose their job because of it as her system is requiring it by the end of November.
Curious for the few of you who are just getting your second shot. What was the hold up? I’m not essential and have been fully vaccinated since March.
Got my second jab today. If nothing else, I’m just glad my life will be easier for attending events, traveling, etc. My wife is a nurse and it’s interesting to hear that a few of her coworkers will be refusing the shot and might lose their job because of it as her system is requiring it by the end of November.
Curious for the few of you who are just getting your second shot. What was the hold up? I’m not essential and have been fully vaccinated since March.
I had covid at the beginning of the summer and was advised to wait a bit before getting the vaccine.
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expect some preferred to wait for formal approval by fda.....
others I expect chose to just wait and see if some side effects came outside of the timeframe used for studies in getting the emergency use approval.
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I'll admit.. I'm somewhat of an asshole.
When the thought crossed my mind that at least I had the piece of mind of being a good person compared to those who may get $100... that thought lasted about a second and then after that all I could then think about was how badly I would want to beat the shit out of anyone who got money to get vaccinated.
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Government money gets distributed in funny ways. Most of us think it goes disproportionally to the poor; but in many ways (extending roads to wealthy suburbs, as one example), that's not true (not that I can speak for Canada). So, now some of it is going to reward morons. I don't disagree but it's something I, as someone who was vaccinated as soon as he could, can live with, even if it's pathetic that it even has be be considered.
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So these states are really going to just let the cards fall where they may ha!
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A primary care doctor in Florida sent a letter to patients informing them that she will not allow anyone unvaccinated to be treated in person.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/vaccine-tourism-guam-covid/2021/09/03/87d76158-09ef-11ec-a7c8-61bb7b3bf628_story.html
By Lyric Li
September 03 at 5:00 AM ET
TUMON, Guam — Passport: check. Coronavirus test: negative. Temperature: normal.
Wearing an N95 mask and face shield, Jimmy Lin lugged his bag full of instant noodles and beachwear out of Guam’s modest airport one recent afternoon.
“It feels kind of surreal being here,” said the 37-year-old from Taiwan, who owns a ski resort in Japan that he hasn’t visited since early 2020 because of travel restrictions. “I used to travel abroad at least every other month, and then suddenly the world was closed on me.”
Like thousands of Asian tourists who have visited this American outpost in the Pacific since early this summer, Lin was in Guam to get his preferred coronavirus shots — Pfizer-BioNTech’s messenger-RNA doses — under a vaccine tourism initiative designed to offset pandemic losses.
[Barbados wants you to work from its beaches during the pandemic]
While an increasing number of tourism-reliant countries, such as Italy and Thailand, recognize vaccination records for travel, a vacation abroad remains off-limits for millions of the unvaccinated. Enter Guam, a U.S. territory with ample vaccine supplies and no quarantine restrictions, where more than 80 percent of the eligible population is fully vaccinated. For residents of Taiwan, South Korea and elsewhere, three weeks on a tropical island plus the chance to get doubly dosed equal an opportunity they can’t always get at home because of supply shortages and access issues.
“I’m a vaccine snob,” said Lin, who got his first Pfizer shot on Aug. 3 through Guam’s government-sponsored “vacation and vaccination,” or AirV&V;, program, paying $100 for one dose. “Here in Guam I can choose the vaccine I want at an affordable price, but back in Taiwan, all I could do was wait for whatever is available, at who knows when.”
Around the world, tourism-dependent places have come up with creative ideas to try to jump-start business devastated by the pandemic. Some have sought to lure digital nomads or allowed visitors to quarantine in resorts. Others have tried travel bubbles that have collapsed when new outbreaks have flared.
And while Guam’s AirV&V; initiative can go only a small way to redeeming lost tourist dollars — more than 1.6 million international visitors graced these shores in 2019 — businesses say it’s worth a shot.
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I haven’t felt that shitty in many years. Glad it’s hopefully over with for me now.
Thats your immune system doing what it should.
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