I have no problem putting a piece of cloth over my face if it’s in the interest of protecting the immune compromised or those who want but can’t get a vaccine, because it’s a minor inconvenience at best.
My goodness, imagine if some of you came of age during WWII or Vietnam & got drafted? What we’re being asked to do for our country right now doesn’t even compare.
Get some perspective in your lives.
If that happened today 1/2 the country would think it's a conspiracy. The draft most likely will never happen again because of Vietnam though.
Miss my point more.
I put it in perspective in todays way of thinking. What point did I miss?
The point that the sacrifice modern day Americans are being asked to make for the well being of the country is nothing compared to that of past generations of Americans.
That type of sacrifice would make 1/2 the country think it's a conspiracy is what I was getting at, just look at the mask thing now. We as a country could most likely never do what they did back then, I am in agreement with that.
What you were getting at is a pivot and ignores my point that Americans today are incapable of saying "hey, it's not like I'm being asked to go storm the beach of Normandy, all I'm being asked to do is put on a mask".
That is the perspective I was getting at in my post that wasn't at all confusing, but congratulations on making it so.
Well done.
I got that and looked at it another way, a pivot as you say. My point was in having to give up that much would make 1/2 the country think it's a conspiracy not so much up to the task.
I agreed with you and viewed it another way I don't understand what is wrong with that?
If you think these responses have been in agreement w/ my initial comment, you should probably revisit your understanding of what it means to agree with someone.
I have what else I meant to say in my head and it made absolute sense. Reading this made me realize that I did not...
I have a lot going on in my brain and I make short sentences forgetting that I did not convey everything else.
My apologies. I agree with you but had my addition to it
This is the cover of today’s post here in NY. This is typically a right leaning newspaper.
Take what you will from it. Can anyone debunk them numbers? Are they right?
'typically a right leaning newspaper' is an understatement
The numbers are right. It's the conclusion that is wrong.
The conclusion is opinion….right or wrong. The numbers are facts. We’ve been told to follow the science, look at the numbers, look at the data…..when does it end? I just don’t get it.
So what do you take from those numbers? How do you follow the science?
Do you get vaccinated?
Only about 50% of the population of the US is vaccinated. This is why there is still reason for very serious measures to be taken...
Fully vaccinated here, entire family is. I only know a few that aren’t. It’s their call at this point. The science and numbers show vaccines work. We are a free society, you can’t have it both ways. Freedom to speak your mind, freedom to worship a god of your choice, freedom of the press and freedom to choose if you want to get vaccinated or not. The doom and gloom needs to stop. If you want to play with your life and choose not to that’s on you. We don’t need media constantly throwing despair in our face 24/7 any longer.
However, the consequence of one's choice not to vaccinate is not limited to that individual.
Some people want to drive drunk, but this fascist country with all it's rules & laws won't let them.
Don't tread on me!!!!!!!
This is a great parallel. Imagine if you had to pass a breathalyzer test to start your car? Every car, not just the person who is forced to after multiple DUIs.
#1, I think this is a good idea.
#2, people would lose their fucking minds. "What happened to our freedom?!"
DUI's make county's/cities money. Plus if you had to pay for said breathalizer in your car I think you should be pissed.
Because DUIs are profitable? 30 people die each day in the US from alcohol-related car crashes. Money is not more important than saving lives.
Please by all means look into it.
I'm well-versed, thanks. I am confused as to your position. Are you against this proposal because DUIs are profitable?
Putting a breathalizer in every car would cost me money. I don't want to pay for that in every car. Why? I don't drink and drive. Stay out of my pocket and don't force that on me.
This is the cover of today’s post here in NY. This is typically a right leaning newspaper.
Take what you will from it. Can anyone debunk them numbers? Are they right?
'typically a right leaning newspaper' is an understatement
The numbers are right. It's the conclusion that is wrong.
The conclusion is opinion….right or wrong. The numbers are facts. We’ve been told to follow the science, look at the numbers, look at the data…..when does it end? I just don’t get it.
So what do you take from those numbers? How do you follow the science?
Do you get vaccinated?
Only about 50% of the population of the US is vaccinated. This is why there is still reason for very serious measures to be taken...
Fully vaccinated here, entire family is. I only know a few that aren’t. It’s their call at this point. The science and numbers show vaccines work. We are a free society, you can’t have it both ways. Freedom to speak your mind, freedom to worship a god of your choice, freedom of the press and freedom to choose if you want to get vaccinated or not. The doom and gloom needs to stop. If you want to play with your life and choose not to that’s on you. We don’t need media constantly throwing despair in our face 24/7 any longer.
However, the consequence of one's choice not to vaccinate is not limited to that individual.
Some people want to drive drunk, but this fascist country with all it's rules & laws won't let them.
Don't tread on me!!!!!!!
This is a great parallel. Imagine if you had to pass a breathalyzer test to start your car? Every car, not just the person who is forced to after multiple DUIs.
#1, I think this is a good idea.
#2, people would lose their fucking minds. "What happened to our freedom?!"
DUI's make county's/cities money. Plus if you had to pay for said breathalizer in your car I think you should be pissed.
Because DUIs are profitable? 30 people die each day in the US from alcohol-related car crashes. Money is not more important than saving lives.
Please by all means look into it.
I'm well-versed, thanks. I am confused as to your position. Are you against this proposal because DUIs are profitable?
Putting a breathalizer in every car would cost me money. I don't want to pay for that in every car. Why? I don't drink and drive. Stay out of my pocket and don't force that on me.
That is my view.
A small price to pay to ensure the safety of all.
*thread integrity: That is the same response I would give to anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers.
This is the cover of today’s post here in NY. This is typically a right leaning newspaper.
Take what you will from it. Can anyone debunk them numbers? Are they right?
'typically a right leaning newspaper' is an understatement
The numbers are right. It's the conclusion that is wrong.
The conclusion is opinion….right or wrong. The numbers are facts. We’ve been told to follow the science, look at the numbers, look at the data…..when does it end? I just don’t get it.
So what do you take from those numbers? How do you follow the science?
Do you get vaccinated?
Only about 50% of the population of the US is vaccinated. This is why there is still reason for very serious measures to be taken...
Fully vaccinated here, entire family is. I only know a few that aren’t. It’s their call at this point. The science and numbers show vaccines work. We are a free society, you can’t have it both ways. Freedom to speak your mind, freedom to worship a god of your choice, freedom of the press and freedom to choose if you want to get vaccinated or not. The doom and gloom needs to stop. If you want to play with your life and choose not to that’s on you. We don’t need media constantly throwing despair in our face 24/7 any longer.
However, the consequence of one's choice not to vaccinate is not limited to that individual.
Some people want to drive drunk, but this fascist country with all it's rules & laws won't let them.
Don't tread on me!!!!!!!
This is a great parallel. Imagine if you had to pass a breathalyzer test to start your car? Every car, not just the person who is forced to after multiple DUIs.
#1, I think this is a good idea.
#2, people would lose their fucking minds. "What happened to our freedom?!"
DUI's make county's/cities money. Plus if you had to pay for said breathalizer in your car I think you should be pissed.
Because DUIs are profitable? 30 people die each day in the US from alcohol-related car crashes. Money is not more important than saving lives.
Please by all means look into it.
I'm well-versed, thanks. I am confused as to your position. Are you against this proposal because DUIs are profitable?
Putting a breathalizer in every car would cost me money. I don't want to pay for that in every car. Why? I don't drink and drive. Stay out of my pocket and don't force that on me.
That is my view.
A small price to pay to ensure the safety of all.
*thread integrity: That is the same response I would give to anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers.
Wearing a mask is much different than having to pay for a box in my vehicle that doesn't need to be in there.
Edit: It's also government interfering where they shouldn't be. For that I would say make all cars not exceed over 65mph too. See how that goes over.
This is the cover of today’s post here in NY. This is typically a right leaning newspaper.
Take what you will from it. Can anyone debunk them numbers? Are they right?
'typically a right leaning newspaper' is an understatement
The numbers are right. It's the conclusion that is wrong.
The conclusion is opinion….right or wrong. The numbers are facts. We’ve been told to follow the science, look at the numbers, look at the data…..when does it end? I just don’t get it.
So what do you take from those numbers? How do you follow the science?
Do you get vaccinated?
Only about 50% of the population of the US is vaccinated. This is why there is still reason for very serious measures to be taken...
Fully vaccinated here, entire family is. I only know a few that aren’t. It’s their call at this point. The science and numbers show vaccines work. We are a free society, you can’t have it both ways. Freedom to speak your mind, freedom to worship a god of your choice, freedom of the press and freedom to choose if you want to get vaccinated or not. The doom and gloom needs to stop. If you want to play with your life and choose not to that’s on you. We don’t need media constantly throwing despair in our face 24/7 any longer.
However, the consequence of one's choice not to vaccinate is not limited to that individual.
Some people want to drive drunk, but this fascist country with all it's rules & laws won't let them.
Don't tread on me!!!!!!!
This is a great parallel. Imagine if you had to pass a breathalyzer test to start your car? Every car, not just the person who is forced to after multiple DUIs.
#1, I think this is a good idea.
#2, people would lose their fucking minds. "What happened to our freedom?!"
DUI's make county's/cities money. Plus if you had to pay for said breathalizer in your car I think you should be pissed.
Because DUIs are profitable? 30 people die each day in the US from alcohol-related car crashes. Money is not more important than saving lives.
Please by all means look into it.
I'm well-versed, thanks. I am confused as to your position. Are you against this proposal because DUIs are profitable?
Putting a breathalizer in every car would cost me money. I don't want to pay for that in every car. Why? I don't drink and drive. Stay out of my pocket and don't force that on me.
That is my view.
That's right... it's totally unnecessary. Not only that. and the device installed can be deactivated. So essentially it would be pointless. In Ontario semis are governed to 105 KMS...lol. I see plenty of Ontario plated trucks on the 401 exceeding 105 quite easily. Why? Because the chip has been replaced.
I have no problem putting a piece of cloth over my face if it’s in the interest of protecting the immune compromised or those who want but can’t get a vaccine, because it’s a minor inconvenience at best.
My goodness, imagine if some of you came of age during WWII or Vietnam & got drafted? What we’re being asked to do for our country right now doesn’t even compare.
Get some perspective in your lives.
If that happened today 1/2 the country would think it's a conspiracy. The draft most likely will never happen again because of Vietnam though.
Miss my point more.
I put it in perspective in todays way of thinking. What point did I miss?
The point that the sacrifice modern day Americans are being asked to make for the well being of the country is nothing compared to that of past generations of Americans.
That type of sacrifice would make 1/2 the country think it's a conspiracy is what I was getting at, just look at the mask thing now. We as a country could most likely never do what they did back then, I am in agreement with that.
What you were getting at is a pivot and ignores my point that Americans today are incapable of saying "hey, it's not like I'm being asked to go storm the beach of Normandy, all I'm being asked to do is put on a mask".
That is the perspective I was getting at in my post that wasn't at all confusing, but congratulations on making it so.
Well done.
I got that and looked at it another way, a pivot as you say. My point was in having to give up that much would make 1/2 the country think it's a conspiracy not so much up to the task.
I agreed with you and viewed it another way I don't understand what is wrong with that?
If you think these responses have been in agreement w/ my initial comment, you should probably revisit your understanding of what it means to agree with someone.
I have what else I meant to say in my head and it made absolute sense. Reading this made me realize that I did not...
I have a lot going on in my brain and I make short sentences forgetting that I did not convey everything else.
My apologies. I agree with you but had my addition to it
All good - I didn't think you were being facetious, or at least don't expect it out of you... I believe your posts are made in good faith... enjoy your weekend, my man.
This is the cover of today’s post here in NY. This is typically a right leaning newspaper.
Take what you will from it. Can anyone debunk them numbers? Are they right?
'typically a right leaning newspaper' is an understatement
The numbers are right. It's the conclusion that is wrong.
The conclusion is opinion….right or wrong. The numbers are facts. We’ve been told to follow the science, look at the numbers, look at the data…..when does it end? I just don’t get it.
So what do you take from those numbers? How do you follow the science?
Do you get vaccinated?
Only about 50% of the population of the US is vaccinated. This is why there is still reason for very serious measures to be taken...
Fully vaccinated here, entire family is. I only know a few that aren’t. It’s their call at this point. The science and numbers show vaccines work. We are a free society, you can’t have it both ways. Freedom to speak your mind, freedom to worship a god of your choice, freedom of the press and freedom to choose if you want to get vaccinated or not. The doom and gloom needs to stop. If you want to play with your life and choose not to that’s on you. We don’t need media constantly throwing despair in our face 24/7 any longer.
However, the consequence of one's choice not to vaccinate is not limited to that individual.
Some people want to drive drunk, but this fascist country with all it's rules & laws won't let them.
Don't tread on me!!!!!!!
This is a great parallel. Imagine if you had to pass a breathalyzer test to start your car? Every car, not just the person who is forced to after multiple DUIs.
#1, I think this is a good idea.
#2, people would lose their fucking minds. "What happened to our freedom?!"
DUI's make county's/cities money. Plus if you had to pay for said breathalizer in your car I think you should be pissed.
Because DUIs are profitable? 30 people die each day in the US from alcohol-related car crashes. Money is not more important than saving lives.
Please by all means look into it.
I'm well-versed, thanks. I am confused as to your position. Are you against this proposal because DUIs are profitable?
Putting a breathalizer in every car would cost me money. I don't want to pay for that in every car. Why? I don't drink and drive. Stay out of my pocket and don't force that on me.
That is my view.
A small price to pay to ensure the safety of all.
*thread integrity: That is the same response I would give to anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers.
Wearing a mask is much different than having to pay for a box in my vehicle that doesn't need to be in there.
Edit: It's also government interfering where they shouldn't be. For that I would say make all cars not exceed over 65mph too. See how that goes over.
Public safety is not a concern for the government? Why then are air bags federally mandated? I don't purposely get into car wrecks. Government quit interfering!!!
Also, your argument is a slippery slope and fearmongering. Same how some fear their bibles and guns will be taken by the door-to-door vaccine effort.
This is the cover of today’s post here in NY. This is typically a right leaning newspaper.
Take what you will from it. Can anyone debunk them numbers? Are they right?
'typically a right leaning newspaper' is an understatement
The numbers are right. It's the conclusion that is wrong.
The conclusion is opinion….right or wrong. The numbers are facts. We’ve been told to follow the science, look at the numbers, look at the data…..when does it end? I just don’t get it.
So what do you take from those numbers? How do you follow the science?
Do you get vaccinated?
Only about 50% of the population of the US is vaccinated. This is why there is still reason for very serious measures to be taken...
Fully vaccinated here, entire family is. I only know a few that aren’t. It’s their call at this point. The science and numbers show vaccines work. We are a free society, you can’t have it both ways. Freedom to speak your mind, freedom to worship a god of your choice, freedom of the press and freedom to choose if you want to get vaccinated or not. The doom and gloom needs to stop. If you want to play with your life and choose not to that’s on you. We don’t need media constantly throwing despair in our face 24/7 any longer.
However, the consequence of one's choice not to vaccinate is not limited to that individual.
Some people want to drive drunk, but this fascist country with all it's rules & laws won't let them.
Don't tread on me!!!!!!!
This is a great parallel. Imagine if you had to pass a breathalyzer test to start your car? Every car, not just the person who is forced to after multiple DUIs.
#1, I think this is a good idea.
#2, people would lose their fucking minds. "What happened to our freedom?!"
DUI's make county's/cities money. Plus if you had to pay for said breathalizer in your car I think you should be pissed.
Because DUIs are profitable? 30 people die each day in the US from alcohol-related car crashes. Money is not more important than saving lives.
Please by all means look into it.
I'm well-versed, thanks. I am confused as to your position. Are you against this proposal because DUIs are profitable?
Putting a breathalizer in every car would cost me money. I don't want to pay for that in every car. Why? I don't drink and drive. Stay out of my pocket and don't force that on me.
That is my view.
A small price to pay to ensure the safety of all.
*thread integrity: That is the same response I would give to anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers.
Wearing a mask is much different than having to pay for a box in my vehicle that doesn't need to be in there.
Edit: It's also government interfering where they shouldn't be. For that I would say make all cars not exceed over 65mph too. See how that goes over.
Public safety is not a concern for the government? Why then are air bags federally mandated? I don't purposely get into car wrecks. Government quit interfering!!!
Also, your argument is a slippery slope and fearmongering. Same how some fear their bibles and guns will be taken by the door-to-door vaccine effort.
Govt is good for certain things, not everything. If you want them to tell you how to live and breathe that's fine. Not me. Not sure how it's fearmongering?
There is a certain point where you can think for yourself and not harm others without the govt telling you or making laws for it.
This is the cover of today’s post here in NY. This is typically a right leaning newspaper.
Take what you will from it. Can anyone debunk them numbers? Are they right?
'typically a right leaning newspaper' is an understatement
The numbers are right. It's the conclusion that is wrong.
The conclusion is opinion….right or wrong. The numbers are facts. We’ve been told to follow the science, look at the numbers, look at the data…..when does it end? I just don’t get it.
So what do you take from those numbers? How do you follow the science?
Do you get vaccinated?
Only about 50% of the population of the US is vaccinated. This is why there is still reason for very serious measures to be taken...
Fully vaccinated here, entire family is. I only know a few that aren’t. It’s their call at this point. The science and numbers show vaccines work. We are a free society, you can’t have it both ways. Freedom to speak your mind, freedom to worship a god of your choice, freedom of the press and freedom to choose if you want to get vaccinated or not. The doom and gloom needs to stop. If you want to play with your life and choose not to that’s on you. We don’t need media constantly throwing despair in our face 24/7 any longer.
However, the consequence of one's choice not to vaccinate is not limited to that individual.
Some people want to drive drunk, but this fascist country with all it's rules & laws won't let them.
Don't tread on me!!!!!!!
This is a great parallel. Imagine if you had to pass a breathalyzer test to start your car? Every car, not just the person who is forced to after multiple DUIs.
#1, I think this is a good idea.
#2, people would lose their fucking minds. "What happened to our freedom?!"
DUI's make county's/cities money. Plus if you had to pay for said breathalizer in your car I think you should be pissed.
Because DUIs are profitable? 30 people die each day in the US from alcohol-related car crashes. Money is not more important than saving lives.
Please by all means look into it.
I'm well-versed, thanks. I am confused as to your position. Are you against this proposal because DUIs are profitable?
Putting a breathalizer in every car would cost me money. I don't want to pay for that in every car. Why? I don't drink and drive. Stay out of my pocket and don't force that on me.
That is my view.
A small price to pay to ensure the safety of all.
*thread integrity: That is the same response I would give to anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers.
Wearing a mask is much different than having to pay for a box in my vehicle that doesn't need to be in there.
Edit: It's also government interfering where they shouldn't be. For that I would say make all cars not exceed over 65mph too. See how that goes over.
Public safety is not a concern for the government? Why then are air bags federally mandated? I don't purposely get into car wrecks. Government quit interfering!!!
Also, your argument is a slippery slope and fearmongering. Same how some fear their bibles and guns will be taken by the door-to-door vaccine effort.
Govt is good for certain things, not everything. If you want them to tell you how to live and breathe that's fine. Not me. Not sure how it's fearmongering?
There is a certain point where you can think for yourself and not harm others without the govt telling you or making laws for it.
The government does not dictate how I live my life. My choices are driven by my morals and values. They just so happen to align with the law. I don't need a law to tell me not to steal or drink and drive or wear a mask. I freely make those choices. Freedom requires responsibility. Some have demonstrated their lack of responsibility, thus the need for law.
Also, a slippery slope argument is a logical fallacy which promotes fearmongering.
This is the cover of today’s post here in NY. This is typically a right leaning newspaper.
Take what you will from it. Can anyone debunk them numbers? Are they right?
'typically a right leaning newspaper' is an understatement
The numbers are right. It's the conclusion that is wrong.
The conclusion is opinion….right or wrong. The numbers are facts. We’ve been told to follow the science, look at the numbers, look at the data…..when does it end? I just don’t get it.
So what do you take from those numbers? How do you follow the science?
Do you get vaccinated?
Only about 50% of the population of the US is vaccinated. This is why there is still reason for very serious measures to be taken...
Fully vaccinated here, entire family is. I only know a few that aren’t. It’s their call at this point. The science and numbers show vaccines work. We are a free society, you can’t have it both ways. Freedom to speak your mind, freedom to worship a god of your choice, freedom of the press and freedom to choose if you want to get vaccinated or not. The doom and gloom needs to stop. If you want to play with your life and choose not to that’s on you. We don’t need media constantly throwing despair in our face 24/7 any longer.
However, the consequence of one's choice not to vaccinate is not limited to that individual.
Some people want to drive drunk, but this fascist country with all it's rules & laws won't let them.
Don't tread on me!!!!!!!
This is a great parallel. Imagine if you had to pass a breathalyzer test to start your car? Every car, not just the person who is forced to after multiple DUIs.
#1, I think this is a good idea.
#2, people would lose their fucking minds. "What happened to our freedom?!"
DUI's make county's/cities money. Plus if you had to pay for said breathalizer in your car I think you should be pissed.
Because DUIs are profitable? 30 people die each day in the US from alcohol-related car crashes. Money is not more important than saving lives.
Please by all means look into it.
I'm well-versed, thanks. I am confused as to your position. Are you against this proposal because DUIs are profitable?
Putting a breathalizer in every car would cost me money. I don't want to pay for that in every car. Why? I don't drink and drive. Stay out of my pocket and don't force that on me.
That is my view.
A small price to pay to ensure the safety of all.
*thread integrity: That is the same response I would give to anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers.
Wearing a mask is much different than having to pay for a box in my vehicle that doesn't need to be in there.
Edit: It's also government interfering where they shouldn't be. For that I would say make all cars not exceed over 65mph too. See how that goes over.
Public safety is not a concern for the government? Why then are air bags federally mandated? I don't purposely get into car wrecks. Government quit interfering!!!
Also, your argument is a slippery slope and fearmongering. Same how some fear their bibles and guns will be taken by the door-to-door vaccine effort.
Govt is good for certain things, not everything. If you want them to tell you how to live and breathe that's fine. Not me. Not sure how it's fearmongering?
There is a certain point where you can think for yourself and not harm others without the govt telling you or making laws for it.
The government does not dictate how I live my life. My choices are driven by my morals and values. They just so happen to align with the law. I don't need a law to tell me not to steal or drink and drive or wear a mask. I freely make those choices. Freedom requires responsibility. Some have demonstrated their lack of responsibility, thus the need for law.
Also, a slippery slope argument is a logical fallacy which promotes fearmongering.
When a car self drives I expect to not have to pay insurance premiums so I am all for it.
This is the cover of today’s post here in NY. This is typically a right leaning newspaper.
Take what you will from it. Can anyone debunk them numbers? Are they right?
'typically a right leaning newspaper' is an understatement
The numbers are right. It's the conclusion that is wrong.
The conclusion is opinion….right or wrong. The numbers are facts. We’ve been told to follow the science, look at the numbers, look at the data…..when does it end? I just don’t get it.
So what do you take from those numbers? How do you follow the science?
Do you get vaccinated?
Only about 50% of the population of the US is vaccinated. This is why there is still reason for very serious measures to be taken...
Fully vaccinated here, entire family is. I only know a few that aren’t. It’s their call at this point. The science and numbers show vaccines work. We are a free society, you can’t have it both ways. Freedom to speak your mind, freedom to worship a god of your choice, freedom of the press and freedom to choose if you want to get vaccinated or not. The doom and gloom needs to stop. If you want to play with your life and choose not to that’s on you. We don’t need media constantly throwing despair in our face 24/7 any longer.
However, the consequence of one's choice not to vaccinate is not limited to that individual.
Some people want to drive drunk, but this fascist country with all it's rules & laws won't let them.
Don't tread on me!!!!!!!
This is a great parallel. Imagine if you had to pass a breathalyzer test to start your car? Every car, not just the person who is forced to after multiple DUIs.
#1, I think this is a good idea.
#2, people would lose their fucking minds. "What happened to our freedom?!"
DUI's make county's/cities money. Plus if you had to pay for said breathalizer in your car I think you should be pissed.
Because DUIs are profitable? 30 people die each day in the US from alcohol-related car crashes. Money is not more important than saving lives.
Please by all means look into it.
I'm well-versed, thanks. I am confused as to your position. Are you against this proposal because DUIs are profitable?
Putting a breathalizer in every car would cost me money. I don't want to pay for that in every car. Why? I don't drink and drive. Stay out of my pocket and don't force that on me.
That is my view.
A small price to pay to ensure the safety of all.
*thread integrity: That is the same response I would give to anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers.
Wearing a mask is much different than having to pay for a box in my vehicle that doesn't need to be in there.
Edit: It's also government interfering where they shouldn't be. For that I would say make all cars not exceed over 65mph too. See how that goes over.
Public safety is not a concern for the government? Why then are air bags federally mandated? I don't purposely get into car wrecks. Government quit interfering!!!
Also, your argument is a slippery slope and fearmongering. Same how some fear their bibles and guns will be taken by the door-to-door vaccine effort.
Govt is good for certain things, not everything. If you want them to tell you how to live and breathe that's fine. Not me. Not sure how it's fearmongering?
There is a certain point where you can think for yourself and not harm others without the govt telling you or making laws for it.
The government does not dictate how I live my life. My choices are driven by my morals and values. They just so happen to align with the law. I don't need a law to tell me not to steal or drink and drive or wear a mask. I freely make those choices. Freedom requires responsibility. Some have demonstrated their lack of responsibility, thus the need for law.
Also, a slippery slope argument is a logical fallacy which promotes fearmongering.
When a car self drives I expect to not have to pay insurance premiums so I am all for it.
This is the cover of today’s post here in NY. This is typically a right leaning newspaper.
Take what you will from it. Can anyone debunk them numbers? Are they right?
'typically a right leaning newspaper' is an understatement
The numbers are right. It's the conclusion that is wrong.
The conclusion is opinion….right or wrong. The numbers are facts. We’ve been told to follow the science, look at the numbers, look at the data…..when does it end? I just don’t get it.
So what do you take from those numbers? How do you follow the science?
Do you get vaccinated?
Only about 50% of the population of the US is vaccinated. This is why there is still reason for very serious measures to be taken...
Fully vaccinated here, entire family is. I only know a few that aren’t. It’s their call at this point. The science and numbers show vaccines work. We are a free society, you can’t have it both ways. Freedom to speak your mind, freedom to worship a god of your choice, freedom of the press and freedom to choose if you want to get vaccinated or not. The doom and gloom needs to stop. If you want to play with your life and choose not to that’s on you. We don’t need media constantly throwing despair in our face 24/7 any longer.
However, the consequence of one's choice not to vaccinate is not limited to that individual.
Some people want to drive drunk, but this fascist country with all it's rules & laws won't let them.
Don't tread on me!!!!!!!
This is a great parallel. Imagine if you had to pass a breathalyzer test to start your car? Every car, not just the person who is forced to after multiple DUIs.
#1, I think this is a good idea.
#2, people would lose their fucking minds. "What happened to our freedom?!"
DUI's make county's/cities money. Plus if you had to pay for said breathalizer in your car I think you should be pissed.
Because DUIs are profitable? 30 people die each day in the US from alcohol-related car crashes. Money is not more important than saving lives.
Please by all means look into it.
I'm well-versed, thanks. I am confused as to your position. Are you against this proposal because DUIs are profitable?
Putting a breathalizer in every car would cost me money. I don't want to pay for that in every car. Why? I don't drink and drive. Stay out of my pocket and don't force that on me.
That is my view.
A small price to pay to ensure the safety of all.
*thread integrity: That is the same response I would give to anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers.
Wearing a mask is much different than having to pay for a box in my vehicle that doesn't need to be in there.
Edit: It's also government interfering where they shouldn't be. For that I would say make all cars not exceed over 65mph too. See how that goes over.
Public safety is not a concern for the government? Why then are air bags federally mandated? I don't purposely get into car wrecks. Government quit interfering!!!
Also, your argument is a slippery slope and fearmongering. Same how some fear their bibles and guns will be taken by the door-to-door vaccine effort.
Govt is good for certain things, not everything. If you want them to tell you how to live and breathe that's fine. Not me. Not sure how it's fearmongering?
There is a certain point where you can think for yourself and not harm others without the govt telling you or making laws for it.
The government does not dictate how I live my life. My choices are driven by my morals and values. They just so happen to align with the law. I don't need a law to tell me not to steal or drink and drive or wear a mask. I freely make those choices. Freedom requires responsibility. Some have demonstrated their lack of responsibility, thus the need for law.
Also, a slippery slope argument is a logical fallacy which promotes fearmongering.
When a car self drives I expect to not have to pay insurance premiums so I am all for it.
Like the all-new Toyota Corona.
*Tryin' real hard to maintain thread integrity.
We went on a tangent. it's healthy to have conversations.
Toyota made a Corona years ago. Not sure if you were being funny or not but they really did, lol!
This is the cover of today’s post here in NY. This is typically a right leaning newspaper.
Take what you will from it. Can anyone debunk them numbers? Are they right?
'typically a right leaning newspaper' is an understatement
The numbers are right. It's the conclusion that is wrong.
The conclusion is opinion….right or wrong. The numbers are facts. We’ve been told to follow the science, look at the numbers, look at the data…..when does it end? I just don’t get it.
So what do you take from those numbers? How do you follow the science?
Do you get vaccinated?
Only about 50% of the population of the US is vaccinated. This is why there is still reason for very serious measures to be taken...
Fully vaccinated here, entire family is. I only know a few that aren’t. It’s their call at this point. The science and numbers show vaccines work. We are a free society, you can’t have it both ways. Freedom to speak your mind, freedom to worship a god of your choice, freedom of the press and freedom to choose if you want to get vaccinated or not. The doom and gloom needs to stop. If you want to play with your life and choose not to that’s on you. We don’t need media constantly throwing despair in our face 24/7 any longer.
However, the consequence of one's choice not to vaccinate is not limited to that individual.
Some people want to drive drunk, but this fascist country with all it's rules & laws won't let them.
Don't tread on me!!!!!!!
This is a great parallel. Imagine if you had to pass a breathalyzer test to start your car? Every car, not just the person who is forced to after multiple DUIs.
#1, I think this is a good idea.
#2, people would lose their fucking minds. "What happened to our freedom?!"
DUI's make county's/cities money. Plus if you had to pay for said breathalizer in your car I think you should be pissed.
Because DUIs are profitable? 30 people die each day in the US from alcohol-related car crashes. Money is not more important than saving lives.
Please by all means look into it.
I'm well-versed, thanks. I am confused as to your position. Are you against this proposal because DUIs are profitable?
Putting a breathalizer in every car would cost me money. I don't want to pay for that in every car. Why? I don't drink and drive. Stay out of my pocket and don't force that on me.
That is my view.
A small price to pay to ensure the safety of all.
*thread integrity: That is the same response I would give to anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers.
Wearing a mask is much different than having to pay for a box in my vehicle that doesn't need to be in there.
Edit: It's also government interfering where they shouldn't be. For that I would say make all cars not exceed over 65mph too. See how that goes over.
Public safety is not a concern for the government? Why then are air bags federally mandated? I don't purposely get into car wrecks. Government quit interfering!!!
Also, your argument is a slippery slope and fearmongering. Same how some fear their bibles and guns will be taken by the door-to-door vaccine effort.
Govt is good for certain things, not everything. If you want them to tell you how to live and breathe that's fine. Not me. Not sure how it's fearmongering?
There is a certain point where you can think for yourself and not harm others without the govt telling you or making laws for it.
The government does not dictate how I live my life. My choices are driven by my morals and values. They just so happen to align with the law. I don't need a law to tell me not to steal or drink and drive or wear a mask. I freely make those choices. Freedom requires responsibility. Some have demonstrated their lack of responsibility, thus the need for law.
Also, a slippery slope argument is a logical fallacy which promotes fearmongering.
"The government does not dictate how I live my life. My choices are driven by my morals and values. They just so happen to align with the law."
This is the cover of today’s post here in NY. This is typically a right leaning newspaper.
Take what you will from it. Can anyone debunk them numbers? Are they right?
'typically a right leaning newspaper' is an understatement
The numbers are right. It's the conclusion that is wrong.
The conclusion is opinion….right or wrong. The numbers are facts. We’ve been told to follow the science, look at the numbers, look at the data…..when does it end? I just don’t get it.
So what do you take from those numbers? How do you follow the science?
Do you get vaccinated?
Only about 50% of the population of the US is vaccinated. This is why there is still reason for very serious measures to be taken...
Fully vaccinated here, entire family is. I only know a few that aren’t. It’s their call at this point. The science and numbers show vaccines work. We are a free society, you can’t have it both ways. Freedom to speak your mind, freedom to worship a god of your choice, freedom of the press and freedom to choose if you want to get vaccinated or not. The doom and gloom needs to stop. If you want to play with your life and choose not to that’s on you. We don’t need media constantly throwing despair in our face 24/7 any longer.
However, the consequence of one's choice not to vaccinate is not limited to that individual.
Some people want to drive drunk, but this fascist country with all it's rules & laws won't let them.
Don't tread on me!!!!!!!
This is a great parallel. Imagine if you had to pass a breathalyzer test to start your car? Every car, not just the person who is forced to after multiple DUIs.
#1, I think this is a good idea.
#2, people would lose their fucking minds. "What happened to our freedom?!"
DUI's make county's/cities money. Plus if you had to pay for said breathalizer in your car I think you should be pissed.
Because DUIs are profitable? 30 people die each day in the US from alcohol-related car crashes. Money is not more important than saving lives.
Please by all means look into it.
I'm well-versed, thanks. I am confused as to your position. Are you against this proposal because DUIs are profitable?
Putting a breathalizer in every car would cost me money. I don't want to pay for that in every car. Why? I don't drink and drive. Stay out of my pocket and don't force that on me.
That is my view.
A small price to pay to ensure the safety of all.
*thread integrity: That is the same response I would give to anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers.
Wearing a mask is much different than having to pay for a box in my vehicle that doesn't need to be in there.
Edit: It's also government interfering where they shouldn't be. For that I would say make all cars not exceed over 65mph too. See how that goes over.
Public safety is not a concern for the government? Why then are air bags federally mandated? I don't purposely get into car wrecks. Government quit interfering!!!
Also, your argument is a slippery slope and fearmongering. Same how some fear their bibles and guns will be taken by the door-to-door vaccine effort.
Govt is good for certain things, not everything. If you want them to tell you how to live and breathe that's fine. Not me. Not sure how it's fearmongering?
There is a certain point where you can think for yourself and not harm others without the govt telling you or making laws for it.
The government does not dictate how I live my life. My choices are driven by my morals and values. They just so happen to align with the law. I don't need a law to tell me not to steal or drink and drive or wear a mask. I freely make those choices. Freedom requires responsibility. Some have demonstrated their lack of responsibility, thus the need for law.
Also, a slippery slope argument is a logical fallacy which promotes fearmongering.
When a car self drives I expect to not have to pay insurance premiums so I am all for it.
Like the all-new Toyota Corona.
*Tryin' real hard to maintain thread integrity.
We went on a tangent. it's healthy to have conversations.
Toyota made a Corona years ago. Not sure if you were being funny or not but they really did, lol!
Ha! I forgot they made a Corona. I was doing a word play off of Corolla.
This is the cover of today’s post here in NY. This is typically a right leaning newspaper.
Take what you will from it. Can anyone debunk them numbers? Are they right?
'typically a right leaning newspaper' is an understatement
The numbers are right. It's the conclusion that is wrong.
The conclusion is opinion….right or wrong. The numbers are facts. We’ve been told to follow the science, look at the numbers, look at the data…..when does it end? I just don’t get it.
So what do you take from those numbers? How do you follow the science?
Do you get vaccinated?
Only about 50% of the population of the US is vaccinated. This is why there is still reason for very serious measures to be taken...
Fully vaccinated here, entire family is. I only know a few that aren’t. It’s their call at this point. The science and numbers show vaccines work. We are a free society, you can’t have it both ways. Freedom to speak your mind, freedom to worship a god of your choice, freedom of the press and freedom to choose if you want to get vaccinated or not. The doom and gloom needs to stop. If you want to play with your life and choose not to that’s on you. We don’t need media constantly throwing despair in our face 24/7 any longer.
However, the consequence of one's choice not to vaccinate is not limited to that individual.
Some people want to drive drunk, but this fascist country with all it's rules & laws won't let them.
Don't tread on me!!!!!!!
This is a great parallel. Imagine if you had to pass a breathalyzer test to start your car? Every car, not just the person who is forced to after multiple DUIs.
#1, I think this is a good idea.
#2, people would lose their fucking minds. "What happened to our freedom?!"
DUI's make county's/cities money. Plus if you had to pay for said breathalizer in your car I think you should be pissed.
Because DUIs are profitable? 30 people die each day in the US from alcohol-related car crashes. Money is not more important than saving lives.
Please by all means look into it.
I'm well-versed, thanks. I am confused as to your position. Are you against this proposal because DUIs are profitable?
Putting a breathalizer in every car would cost me money. I don't want to pay for that in every car. Why? I don't drink and drive. Stay out of my pocket and don't force that on me.
That is my view.
A small price to pay to ensure the safety of all.
*thread integrity: That is the same response I would give to anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers.
Wearing a mask is much different than having to pay for a box in my vehicle that doesn't need to be in there.
Edit: It's also government interfering where they shouldn't be. For that I would say make all cars not exceed over 65mph too. See how that goes over.
Public safety is not a concern for the government? Why then are air bags federally mandated? I don't purposely get into car wrecks. Government quit interfering!!!
Also, your argument is a slippery slope and fearmongering. Same how some fear their bibles and guns will be taken by the door-to-door vaccine effort.
Govt is good for certain things, not everything. If you want them to tell you how to live and breathe that's fine. Not me. Not sure how it's fearmongering?
There is a certain point where you can think for yourself and not harm others without the govt telling you or making laws for it.
The government does not dictate how I live my life. My choices are driven by my morals and values. They just so happen to align with the law. I don't need a law to tell me not to steal or drink and drive or wear a mask. I freely make those choices. Freedom requires responsibility. Some have demonstrated their lack of responsibility, thus the need for law.
Also, a slippery slope argument is a logical fallacy which promotes fearmongering.
"The government does not dictate how I live my life. My choices are driven by my morals and values. They just so happen to align with the law."
This is sarcasm, right? It has to be a joke.
There was a time in my life where I thought I was funny. I'm not sure anymore. Please enlighten me.
This is the cover of today’s post here in NY. This is typically a right leaning newspaper.
Take what you will from it. Can anyone debunk them numbers? Are they right?
'typically a right leaning newspaper' is an understatement
The numbers are right. It's the conclusion that is wrong.
The conclusion is opinion….right or wrong. The numbers are facts. We’ve been told to follow the science, look at the numbers, look at the data…..when does it end? I just don’t get it.
So what do you take from those numbers? How do you follow the science?
Do you get vaccinated?
Only about 50% of the population of the US is vaccinated. This is why there is still reason for very serious measures to be taken...
Fully vaccinated here, entire family is. I only know a few that aren’t. It’s their call at this point. The science and numbers show vaccines work. We are a free society, you can’t have it both ways. Freedom to speak your mind, freedom to worship a god of your choice, freedom of the press and freedom to choose if you want to get vaccinated or not. The doom and gloom needs to stop. If you want to play with your life and choose not to that’s on you. We don’t need media constantly throwing despair in our face 24/7 any longer.
However, the consequence of one's choice not to vaccinate is not limited to that individual.
Some people want to drive drunk, but this fascist country with all it's rules & laws won't let them.
Don't tread on me!!!!!!!
This is a great parallel. Imagine if you had to pass a breathalyzer test to start your car? Every car, not just the person who is forced to after multiple DUIs.
#1, I think this is a good idea.
#2, people would lose their fucking minds. "What happened to our freedom?!"
DUI's make county's/cities money. Plus if you had to pay for said breathalizer in your car I think you should be pissed.
Because DUIs are profitable? 30 people die each day in the US from alcohol-related car crashes. Money is not more important than saving lives.
Please by all means look into it.
I'm well-versed, thanks. I am confused as to your position. Are you against this proposal because DUIs are profitable?
Putting a breathalizer in every car would cost me money. I don't want to pay for that in every car. Why? I don't drink and drive. Stay out of my pocket and don't force that on me.
That is my view.
A small price to pay to ensure the safety of all.
*thread integrity: That is the same response I would give to anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers.
Wearing a mask is much different than having to pay for a box in my vehicle that doesn't need to be in there.
Edit: It's also government interfering where they shouldn't be. For that I would say make all cars not exceed over 65mph too. See how that goes over.
Public safety is not a concern for the government? Why then are air bags federally mandated? I don't purposely get into car wrecks. Government quit interfering!!!
Also, your argument is a slippery slope and fearmongering. Same how some fear their bibles and guns will be taken by the door-to-door vaccine effort.
Govt is good for certain things, not everything. If you want them to tell you how to live and breathe that's fine. Not me. Not sure how it's fearmongering?
There is a certain point where you can think for yourself and not harm others without the govt telling you or making laws for it.
The government does not dictate how I live my life. My choices are driven by my morals and values. They just so happen to align with the law. I don't need a law to tell me not to steal or drink and drive or wear a mask. I freely make those choices. Freedom requires responsibility. Some have demonstrated their lack of responsibility, thus the need for law.
Also, a slippery slope argument is a logical fallacy which promotes fearmongering.
"The government does not dictate how I live my life. My choices are driven by my morals and values. They just so happen to align with the law."
This is sarcasm, right? It has to be a joke.
There was a time in my life where I thought I was funny. I'm not sure anymore. Please enlighten me.
Well it’s a societal question. If there wasn’t a law, would your parents have taught you not to steal anyway? Impossible to answer. Our laws reflect our values as a society and culture. You’re a product of that.
In the uk we now have the highest number of 15-24 year old hospitalised that we have ever had from covid. This shit is relentless and please take delta seriously. 1 in 65 people here currently has covid. Thats Fuckin mental. Including a large proportion of my partners family all double vaxxed
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This is the cover of today’s post here in NY. This is typically a right leaning newspaper.
Take what you will from it. Can anyone debunk them numbers? Are they right?
'typically a right leaning newspaper' is an understatement
The numbers are right. It's the conclusion that is wrong.
The conclusion is opinion….right or wrong. The numbers are facts. We’ve been told to follow the science, look at the numbers, look at the data…..when does it end? I just don’t get it.
So what do you take from those numbers? How do you follow the science?
Do you get vaccinated?
Only about 50% of the population of the US is vaccinated. This is why there is still reason for very serious measures to be taken...
Fully vaccinated here, entire family is. I only know a few that aren’t. It’s their call at this point. The science and numbers show vaccines work. We are a free society, you can’t have it both ways. Freedom to speak your mind, freedom to worship a god of your choice, freedom of the press and freedom to choose if you want to get vaccinated or not. The doom and gloom needs to stop. If you want to play with your life and choose not to that’s on you. We don’t need media constantly throwing despair in our face 24/7 any longer.
However, the consequence of one's choice not to vaccinate is not limited to that individual.
Some people want to drive drunk, but this fascist country with all it's rules & laws won't let them.
Don't tread on me!!!!!!!
This is a great parallel. Imagine if you had to pass a breathalyzer test to start your car? Every car, not just the person who is forced to after multiple DUIs.
#1, I think this is a good idea.
#2, people would lose their fucking minds. "What happened to our freedom?!"
DUI's make county's/cities money. Plus if you had to pay for said breathalizer in your car I think you should be pissed.
Because DUIs are profitable? 30 people die each day in the US from alcohol-related car crashes. Money is not more important than saving lives.
Please by all means look into it.
I'm well-versed, thanks. I am confused as to your position. Are you against this proposal because DUIs are profitable?
Putting a breathalizer in every car would cost me money. I don't want to pay for that in every car. Why? I don't drink and drive. Stay out of my pocket and don't force that on me.
That is my view.
A small price to pay to ensure the safety of all.
*thread integrity: That is the same response I would give to anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers.
Wearing a mask is much different than having to pay for a box in my vehicle that doesn't need to be in there.
Edit: It's also government interfering where they shouldn't be. For that I would say make all cars not exceed over 65mph too. See how that goes over.
Public safety is not a concern for the government? Why then are air bags federally mandated? I don't purposely get into car wrecks. Government quit interfering!!!
Also, your argument is a slippery slope and fearmongering. Same how some fear their bibles and guns will be taken by the door-to-door vaccine effort.
Govt is good for certain things, not everything. If you want them to tell you how to live and breathe that's fine. Not me. Not sure how it's fearmongering?
There is a certain point where you can think for yourself and not harm others without the govt telling you or making laws for it.
The government does not dictate how I live my life. My choices are driven by my morals and values. They just so happen to align with the law. I don't need a law to tell me not to steal or drink and drive or wear a mask. I freely make those choices. Freedom requires responsibility. Some have demonstrated their lack of responsibility, thus the need for law.
Also, a slippery slope argument is a logical fallacy which promotes fearmongering.
"The government does not dictate how I live my life. My choices are driven by my morals and values. They just so happen to align with the law."
This is sarcasm, right? It has to be a joke.
There was a time in my life where I thought I was funny. I'm not sure anymore. Please enlighten me.
Well it’s a societal question. If there wasn’t a law, would your parents have taught you not to steal anyway? Impossible to answer. Our laws reflect our values as a society and culture. You’re a product of that.
Whether my values are a product of the law does not alter my original statement. Some cry foul at government overreach or interference, be it breathalyzers or mask mandates. I would be happy to pay for a breathalyzer in my car if it meant the safety of all. I do wear a mask for the safety of myself and others. The government isn't telling me I have to, I want to. Maybe I'm a sheep.
In the uk we now have the highest number of 15-24 year old hospitalised that we have ever had from covid. This shit is relentless and please take delta seriously. 1 in 65 people here currently has covid. Thats Fuckin mental. Including a large proportion of my partners family all double vaxxed
For every doom and gloom story I’m going to try and find a positive one to counter…. No judging on the original post just want to spread some good news as well….
No they are not falling at all. Prof Spector says the real time data is 60.000 a day Its not doom and gloom its reality and fact. Im seeing It with my eyes not reading misinformation
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Testing here is much less due to schools no longer open and having twice weekly tests. So less testing less official cases. The zoe symptom app tracks real time symptomatic cases
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No they are not falling at all. Prof Spector says the real time data is 60.000 a day Its not doom and gloom its reality and fact. Im seeing It with my eyes not reading misinformation
The UK covid site says 7 day rolling positivity rate is 333.1 per 100,000 people (as of July 25th). Your stated rate of 1 in 65 people would be over 4.5x that figure. I agree that it's a very serious situation, but is there data that we're missing?
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I have a lot going on in my brain and I make short sentences forgetting that I did not convey everything else.
My apologies. I agree with you but had my addition to it
That is my view.
*thread integrity: That is the same response I would give to anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers.
Edit: It's also government interfering where they shouldn't be. For that I would say make all cars not exceed over 65mph too. See how that goes over.
All good - I didn't think you were being facetious, or at least don't expect it out of you... I believe your posts are made in good faith... enjoy your weekend, my man.
Also, your argument is a slippery slope and fearmongering. Same how some fear their bibles and guns will be taken by the door-to-door vaccine effort.
Maybe gets a sponsor as well.
There is a certain point where you can think for yourself and not harm others without the govt telling you or making laws for it.
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Also, a slippery slope argument is a logical fallacy which promotes fearmongering.
*Tryin' real hard to maintain thread integrity.
Toyota made a Corona years ago. Not sure if you were being funny or not but they really did, lol!
"The government does not dictate how I live my life. My choices are driven by my morals and values. They just so happen to align with the law."
This is sarcasm, right? It has to be a joke.
And, agreed. Conversations are healthy.
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https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/07/28/uk-covid-cases-are-falling-despite-the-easing-of-lockdowns-surprising-the-experts.html
Its not doom and gloom its reality and fact. Im seeing It with my eyes not reading misinformation
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https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/