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I'm not following you. I'm in San Diego, a county of over 3 million people. Local numbers had been excellent, now they are bad again, 90% of reported cases are among the unvaccinated. 70% of people age 12 and up are fully vaccinated, more than 80% are partially vaccinated. Positivity rate has gone from 1% to about 7%, hospitalizations and ICU admissions and community outbreaks are up.
So -- I didn't say anything about ventilators. Or Israel. So I'm confused.
80% efficacy is GREAT. But, since people who were at high-risk (and were thus first to be vaccinated) remain at high risk despite being vaccinated, those of us with immunocompromised people in our lives pay attention to things like reduced vaccine efficacy against variants. Our family member has resumed taking precautions as if they were unvaccinated; if you and yours are not high-risk, there's no need to lose sleep over 80% vs 90%.
And while I'm generally a cynical person, and the noise and constantly changing narrative is frustrating, I really don't believe that what is coming out of credible sources right now is spin to benefit any particular person/ party. And yes, I do consider the CDC to be a pretty credible source.
There has been discussion of the need for a booster shot basically since the first vaccines were announced. Is that a money grab? I don't know -- I don't consider the annual flu shot to be a money grab; I consider it a way to avoid being sick as a dog for a week or two. What I see are signs of an ongoing discussion behind the scenes about the need for boosters, who might need them and how often. I believe this virus will be endemic, so I personally see nothing sketchy in talk of boosters.
The virus still is new. And it is changing. As the science changes, policy changes, and it is incumbent on us to be able to adapt to those changes. Is there still a lot of noise? Yes. But you can reduce that by getting information from credible sources. I get mine from the CDC, The Atlantic, published research.
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Well looks like father in law 71 double pfizer has covid. Flu symptoms for 2 days so far.
Hoping it’s only mild and he stays out of hospital like vaccine claims.
He has smoked since he was12 . True Italian style. So we will see how well the vaccine works on smokers of many years. So far coping at home. But early days
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I'm not following you. I'm in San Diego, a county of over 3 million people. Local numbers had been excellent, now they are bad again, 90% of reported cases are among the unvaccinated. 70% of people age 12 and up are fully vaccinated, more than 80% are partially vaccinated. Positivity rate has gone from 1% to about 7%, hospitalizations and ICU admissions and community outbreaks are up.
So -- I didn't say anything about ventilators. Or Israel. So I'm confused.
80% efficacy is GREAT. But, since people who were at high-risk (and were thus first to be vaccinated) remain at high risk despite being vaccinated, those of us with immunocompromised people in our lives pay attention to things like reduced vaccine efficacy against variants. Our family member has resumed taking precautions as if they were unvaccinated; if you and yours are not high-risk, there's no need to lose sleep over 80% vs 90%.
And while I'm generally a cynical person, and the noise and constantly changing narrative is frustrating, I really don't believe that what is coming out of credible sources right now is spin to benefit any particular person/ party. And yes, I do consider the CDC to be a pretty credible source.
There has been discussion of the need for a booster shot basically since the first vaccines were announced. Is that a money grab? I don't know -- I don't consider the annual flu shot to be a money grab; I consider it a way to avoid being sick as a dog for a week or two. What I see are signs of an ongoing discussion behind the scenes about the need for boosters, who might need them and how often. I believe this virus will be endemic, so I personally see nothing sketchy in talk of boosters.
The virus still is new. And it is changing. As the science changes, policy changes, and it is incumbent on us to be able to adapt to those changes. Is there still a lot of noise? Yes. But you can reduce that by getting information from credible sources. I get mine from the CDC, The Atlantic, published research.
If a booster is needed for the highest at risk then so be it, From what I’ve read recently it seems plausible. Especially since it will be built to fight the Delta variant which is clearly looking like the winner of the variant race. 70% fully vaccinated is not enough to prevent a pretty serious surge, especially when you consider those unvaccinated are often in concentrated areas or flat out oblivious to the whole thing. My frustration from the CDC is how they manipulate or just sit on it data. They’ve been using data out India lately to make ridiculous projections. India, a country using an entirely different vaccine and with a demographic nothing like the US. Not to mention the CDC sat on data which proved outdoor infection was basically null for two months. Oh and they have still yet to publish pediatric numbers, which I can only assume is because kids just aren’t getting sick but when can we actually come to this conclusion? It’s a joke and a lot of Americans have lost trust in them and most local health agencies as well. There is so much misinformation flying around out their from completely illegitimate sources right now and I’m not talking about the CDC. I’m talking about right wing sources who twist the CDC’s confusing guidance and use it against them to spread misinformation about vaccines, etc. The CDC and WHO have made so many blunders at this point I’m surprised things aren’t worse, at least we got 60% of the country vaccinated.
I'm not following you. I'm in San Diego, a county of over 3 million people. Local numbers had been excellent, now they are bad again, 90% of reported cases are among the unvaccinated. 70% of people age 12 and up are fully vaccinated, more than 80% are partially vaccinated. Positivity rate has gone from 1% to about 7%, hospitalizations and ICU admissions and community outbreaks are up.
So -- I didn't say anything about ventilators. Or Israel. So I'm confused.
80% efficacy is GREAT. But, since people who were at high-risk (and were thus first to be vaccinated) remain at high risk despite being vaccinated, those of us with immunocompromised people in our lives pay attention to things like reduced vaccine efficacy against variants. Our family member has resumed taking precautions as if they were unvaccinated; if you and yours are not high-risk, there's no need to lose sleep over 80% vs 90%.
And while I'm generally a cynical person, and the noise and constantly changing narrative is frustrating, I really don't believe that what is coming out of credible sources right now is spin to benefit any particular person/ party. And yes, I do consider the CDC to be a pretty credible source.
There has been discussion of the need for a booster shot basically since the first vaccines were announced. Is that a money grab? I don't know -- I don't consider the annual flu shot to be a money grab; I consider it a way to avoid being sick as a dog for a week or two. What I see are signs of an ongoing discussion behind the scenes about the need for boosters, who might need them and how often. I believe this virus will be endemic, so I personally see nothing sketchy in talk of boosters.
The virus still is new. And it is changing. As the science changes, policy changes, and it is incumbent on us to be able to adapt to those changes. Is there still a lot of noise? Yes. But you can reduce that by getting information from credible sources. I get mine from the CDC, The Atlantic, published research.
If a booster is needed for the highest at risk then so be it, From what I’ve read recently it seems plausible. Especially since it will be built to fight the Delta variant which is clearly looking like the winner of the variant race. 70% fully vaccinated is not enough to prevent a pretty serious surge, especially when you consider those unvaccinated are often in concentrated areas or flat out oblivious to the whole thing. My frustration from the CDC is how they manipulate or just sit on it data. They’ve been using data out India lately to make ridiculous projections. India, a country using an entirely different vaccine and with a demographic nothing like the US. Not to mention the CDC sat on data which proved outdoor infection was basically null for two months. Oh and they have still yet to publish pediatric numbers, which I can only assume is because kids just aren’t getting sick but when can we actually come to this conclusion? It’s a joke and a lot of Americans have lost trust in them and most local health agencies as well. There is so much misinformation flying around out their from completely illegitimate sources right now and I’m not talking about the CDC. I’m talking about right wing sources who twist the CDC’s confusing guidance and use it against them to spread misinformation about vaccines, etc. The CDC and WHO have made so many blunders at this point I’m surprised things aren’t worse, at least we got 60% of the country vaccinated.
being a once in a lifetime global pandemic, I'm going to give these agencies some leeway.
Alberta is taking its cues from Florida....people who test positive no longer have to self isolate.
Ford has been a waste of space in Ontario and Kenney seems just as useless over there in the west. It's scary how close we're getting to the movie Idocrasy becoming fact and not fiction.
The weird thing about leadership I'm seeing is a complete lack of a backbone and brain just for the purpose of votes. If enough people in a jurisdiction thought that jumping off a bridge would be good thing, the leader would blindly endorse it and encourage it instead of saying "Look... for whatever reason, you think jumping off that bridge is good... but I'm here to tell you... it's not and please don't."
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Alberta is taking its cues from Florida....people who test positive no longer have to self isolate.
Ford has been a waste of space in Ontario and Kenney seems just as useless over there in the west. It's scary how close we're getting to the movie Idocrasy becoming fact and not fiction.
The weird thing about leadership I'm seeing is a complete lack of a backbone and brain just for the purpose of votes. If enough people in a jurisdiction thought that jumping off a bridge would be good thing, the leader would blindly endorse it and encourage it instead of saying "Look... for whatever reason, you think jumping off that bridge is good... but I'm here to tell you... it's not and please don't."
I would say from what im seeing in real life. Double vax wont stop you getting the worst ill you may have felt. Ok you may not die but please take delta seriously.
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Alberta is taking its cues from Florida....people who test positive no longer have to self isolate.
We're basically going to stop testing too. If you get sick you're either going to have to go to a doctor to get a test or emergency. I'm sure clinics are thrilled to have sick people coming to them for testing.
Well looks like father in law 71 double pfizer has covid. Flu symptoms for 2 days so far.
Hoping it’s only mild and he stays out of hospital like vaccine claims.
He has smoked since he was12 . True Italian style. So we will see how well the vaccine works on smokers of many years. So far coping at home. But early days
Well I totally get the Italian thing….my father in law started at that age as well!
I'm not following you. I'm in San Diego, a county of over 3 million people. Local numbers had been excellent, now they are bad again, 90% of reported cases are among the unvaccinated. 70% of people age 12 and up are fully vaccinated, more than 80% are partially vaccinated. Positivity rate has gone from 1% to about 7%, hospitalizations and ICU admissions and community outbreaks are up.
So -- I didn't say anything about ventilators. Or Israel. So I'm confused.
80% efficacy is GREAT. But, since people who were at high-risk (and were thus first to be vaccinated) remain at high risk despite being vaccinated, those of us with immunocompromised people in our lives pay attention to things like reduced vaccine efficacy against variants. Our family member has resumed taking precautions as if they were unvaccinated; if you and yours are not high-risk, there's no need to lose sleep over 80% vs 90%.
And while I'm generally a cynical person, and the noise and constantly changing narrative is frustrating, I really don't believe that what is coming out of credible sources right now is spin to benefit any particular person/ party. And yes, I do consider the CDC to be a pretty credible source.
There has been discussion of the need for a booster shot basically since the first vaccines were announced. Is that a money grab? I don't know -- I don't consider the annual flu shot to be a money grab; I consider it a way to avoid being sick as a dog for a week or two. What I see are signs of an ongoing discussion behind the scenes about the need for boosters, who might need them and how often. I believe this virus will be endemic, so I personally see nothing sketchy in talk of boosters.
The virus still is new. And it is changing. As the science changes, policy changes, and it is incumbent on us to be able to adapt to those changes. Is there still a lot of noise? Yes. But you can reduce that by getting information from credible sources. I get mine from the CDC, The Atlantic, published research.
If a booster is needed for the highest at risk then so be it, From what I’ve read recently it seems plausible. Especially since it will be built to fight the Delta variant which is clearly looking like the winner of the variant race. 70% fully vaccinated is not enough to prevent a pretty serious surge, especially when you consider those unvaccinated are often in concentrated areas or flat out oblivious to the whole thing. My frustration from the CDC is how they manipulate or just sit on it data. They’ve been using data out India lately to make ridiculous projections. India, a country using an entirely different vaccine and with a demographic nothing like the US. Not to mention the CDC sat on data which proved outdoor infection was basically null for two months. Oh and they have still yet to publish pediatric numbers, which I can only assume is because kids just aren’t getting sick but when can we actually come to this conclusion? It’s a joke and a lot of Americans have lost trust in them and most local health agencies as well. There is so much misinformation flying around out their from completely illegitimate sources right now and I’m not talking about the CDC. I’m talking about right wing sources who twist the CDC’s confusing guidance and use it against them to spread misinformation about vaccines, etc. The CDC and WHO have made so many blunders at this point I’m surprised things aren’t worse, at least we got 60% of the country vaccinated.
being a once in a lifetime global pandemic, I'm going to give these agencies some leeway.
I agree with you….cut them and the whole process a break for gods sake. Doctors, nurses, scientists, have been busting their asses for a year and a 1/2….they deserve to be respected and I don’t agree at all that “so many blunders” have been made. I think they’ve all done a great job with something they’ve never dealt with. Be thankful and respectful please.
Alberta is taking its cues from Florida....people who test positive no longer have to self isolate.
We're basically going to stop testing too. If you get sick you're either going to have to go to a doctor to get a test or emergency. I'm sure clinics are thrilled to have sick people coming to them for testing.
yeah I read the health minister say alberta is basically going to start treating covid like the fucking flu. FFS
I'm not following you. I'm in San Diego, a county of over 3 million people. Local numbers had been excellent, now they are bad again, 90% of reported cases are among the unvaccinated. 70% of people age 12 and up are fully vaccinated, more than 80% are partially vaccinated. Positivity rate has gone from 1% to about 7%, hospitalizations and ICU admissions and community outbreaks are up.
So -- I didn't say anything about ventilators. Or Israel. So I'm confused.
80% efficacy is GREAT. But, since people who were at high-risk (and were thus first to be vaccinated) remain at high risk despite being vaccinated, those of us with immunocompromised people in our lives pay attention to things like reduced vaccine efficacy against variants. Our family member has resumed taking precautions as if they were unvaccinated; if you and yours are not high-risk, there's no need to lose sleep over 80% vs 90%.
And while I'm generally a cynical person, and the noise and constantly changing narrative is frustrating, I really don't believe that what is coming out of credible sources right now is spin to benefit any particular person/ party. And yes, I do consider the CDC to be a pretty credible source.
There has been discussion of the need for a booster shot basically since the first vaccines were announced. Is that a money grab? I don't know -- I don't consider the annual flu shot to be a money grab; I consider it a way to avoid being sick as a dog for a week or two. What I see are signs of an ongoing discussion behind the scenes about the need for boosters, who might need them and how often. I believe this virus will be endemic, so I personally see nothing sketchy in talk of boosters.
The virus still is new. And it is changing. As the science changes, policy changes, and it is incumbent on us to be able to adapt to those changes. Is there still a lot of noise? Yes. But you can reduce that by getting information from credible sources. I get mine from the CDC, The Atlantic, published research.
If a booster is needed for the highest at risk then so be it, From what I’ve read recently it seems plausible. Especially since it will be built to fight the Delta variant which is clearly looking like the winner of the variant race. 70% fully vaccinated is not enough to prevent a pretty serious surge, especially when you consider those unvaccinated are often in concentrated areas or flat out oblivious to the whole thing. My frustration from the CDC is how they manipulate or just sit on it data. They’ve been using data out India lately to make ridiculous projections. India, a country using an entirely different vaccine and with a demographic nothing like the US. Not to mention the CDC sat on data which proved outdoor infection was basically null for two months. Oh and they have still yet to publish pediatric numbers, which I can only assume is because kids just aren’t getting sick but when can we actually come to this conclusion? It’s a joke and a lot of Americans have lost trust in them and most local health agencies as well. There is so much misinformation flying around out their from completely illegitimate sources right now and I’m not talking about the CDC. I’m talking about right wing sources who twist the CDC’s confusing guidance and use it against them to spread misinformation about vaccines, etc. The CDC and WHO have made so many blunders at this point I’m surprised things aren’t worse, at least we got 60% of the country vaccinated.
being a once in a lifetime global pandemic, I'm going to give these agencies some leeway.
I agree with you….cut them and the whole process a break for gods sake. Doctors, nurses, scientists, have been busting their asses for a year and a 1/2….they deserve to be respected and I don’t agree at all that “so many blunders” have been made. I think they’ve all done a great job with something they’ve never dealt with. Be thankful and respectful please.
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We're back to mandatory masks in my pocket of BC. High cases of unvaccinated 20s, 30s.
I started sporting them last 2 trips in mall. Was fun while it lasted!
Yep even though I’m vaccinated I’m going into all indoor places sporting a mask, it did feel really good to feel like it was back to normal!
That is going to be us too with masks. Our county has a 31% fully vaccinated rate. I had a doctor's appointment yesterday and she said that there are more and more positive tests and a few hospitalizations. Her opinion was that the next month or so is going to be a wake up call for people in my area that have dismissed the virus.
This is the cover of today’s post here in NY. This is typically a right leaning newspaper.
Take what you will from it. Can anyone debunk them numbers? Are they right?
'typically a right leaning newspaper' is an understatement
The numbers are right. It's the conclusion that is wrong.
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This is the cover of today’s post here in NY. This is typically a right leaning newspaper.
Take what you will from it. Can anyone debunk them numbers? Are they right?
'typically a right leaning newspaper' is an understatement
The numbers are right. It's the conclusion that is wrong.
The conclusion is opinion….right or wrong. The numbers are facts. We’ve been told to follow the science, look at the numbers, look at the data…..when does it end? I just don’t get it.
This is the cover of today’s post here in NY. This is typically a right leaning newspaper.
Take what you will from it. Can anyone debunk them numbers? Are they right?
'typically a right leaning newspaper' is an understatement
The numbers are right. It's the conclusion that is wrong.
The conclusion is opinion….right or wrong. The numbers are facts. We’ve been told to follow the science, look at the numbers, look at the data…..when does it end? I just don’t get it.
At this point - who knows? All those people who said 'it's just the flu' were kinda right.
We were unable to stop CV19 because people refused to take basic measures protect themselves, their friends, their families, or their neighbors.
Now, we'll be stuck with evolving variants reoccurring every year. I suspect there will be an annual flu shot, and CV19 shot for years to come.
One good thing that came out of this, was our ability to safely & quickly develop mRNA vaccines. If only we could convince people to get them.
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This is the cover of today’s post here in NY. This is typically a right leaning newspaper.
Take what you will from it. Can anyone debunk them numbers? Are they right?
'typically a right leaning newspaper' is an understatement
The numbers are right. It's the conclusion that is wrong.
The conclusion is opinion….right or wrong. The numbers are facts. We’ve been told to follow the science, look at the numbers, look at the data…..when does it end? I just don’t get it.
So what do you take from those numbers? How do you follow the science?
Do you get vaccinated?
Only about 50% of the population of the US is vaccinated. This is why there is still reason for very serious measures to be taken...
This is the cover of today’s post here in NY. This is typically a right leaning newspaper.
Take what you will from it. Can anyone debunk them numbers? Are they right?
'typically a right leaning newspaper' is an understatement
The numbers are right. It's the conclusion that is wrong.
The conclusion is opinion….right or wrong. The numbers are facts. We’ve been told to follow the science, look at the numbers, look at the data…..when does it end? I just don’t get it.
So what do you take from those numbers? How do you follow the science?
Do you get vaccinated?
Only about 50% of the population of the US is vaccinated. This is why there is still reason for very serious measures to be taken...
Fully vaccinated here, entire family is. I only know a few that aren’t. It’s their call at this point. The science and numbers show vaccines work. We are a free society, you can’t have it both ways. Freedom to speak your mind, freedom to worship a god of your choice, freedom of the press and freedom to choose if you want to get vaccinated or not. The doom and gloom needs to stop. If you want to play with your life and choose not to that’s on you. We don’t need media constantly throwing despair in our face 24/7 any longer.
This is the cover of today’s post here in NY. This is typically a right leaning newspaper.
Take what you will from it. Can anyone debunk them numbers? Are they right?
'typically a right leaning newspaper' is an understatement
The numbers are right. It's the conclusion that is wrong.
The conclusion is opinion….right or wrong. The numbers are facts. We’ve been told to follow the science, look at the numbers, look at the data…..when does it end? I just don’t get it.
So what do you take from those numbers? How do you follow the science?
Do you get vaccinated?
Only about 50% of the population of the US is vaccinated. This is why there is still reason for very serious measures to be taken...
Fully vaccinated here, entire family is. I only know a few that aren’t. It’s their call at this point. The science and numbers show vaccines work. We are a free society, you can’t have it both ways. Freedom to speak your mind, freedom to worship a god of your choice, freedom of the press and freedom to choose if you want to get vaccinated or not. The doom and gloom needs to stop. If you want to play with your life and choose not to that’s on you. We don’t need media constantly throwing despair in our face 24/7 any longer.
I am glad all of your family is beyond the age of 12. Not all of us can say that. I believe there are close to 50 million people in the US who are under the age of 12 and not eligible to receive the vaccine.
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The weird thing about leadership I'm seeing is a complete lack of a backbone and brain just for the purpose of votes. If enough people in a jurisdiction thought that jumping off a bridge would be good thing, the leader would blindly endorse it and encourage it instead of saying "Look... for whatever reason, you think jumping off that bridge is good... but I'm here to tell you... it's not and please don't."
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'typically a right leaning newspaper' is an understatement
The numbers are right. It's the conclusion that is wrong.
https://www.npr.org/2021/07/10/1014374383/covid-19-coronavirus-pandemic-when-its-over
The question of when the crisis will be over is a layered one — with different answers from local, national and global perspectives.
At this point - who knows? All those people who said 'it's just the flu' were kinda right.
We were unable to stop CV19 because people refused to take basic measures protect themselves, their friends, their families, or their neighbors.
Now, we'll be stuck with evolving variants reoccurring every year. I suspect there will be an annual flu shot, and CV19 shot for years to come.
One good thing that came out of this, was our ability to safely & quickly develop mRNA vaccines. If only we could convince people to get them.
I asked about the numbers though to make sure they were actually correct as more of you are into it very deeply.
Thank you for the responses.