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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    There was a healthy 44 year old that passed away from COVID about 2 weeks ago that I was friends with. I just spoke with someone that knew him and his family really well. The whole family, Mom, Dad & Sisters(and their families) got COVID. Laugh at it if you want to, but the whole family took Ivermectin and recovered. He was the only one that didn't take it and he passed away. He got submitted to the hospital and was given Remdesivir and his kidneys shut down just a couple days later.

    It's strange how COVID attacks some so badly and then other don't feel a thing. I'm not saying that Ivermectin is a miracle drug or that it even helps with COVID. I am not a doctor so I don't have a clue. What I do know is that his family all recovered. His parents are in their 70s and his sisters are in their 30s.

    None of them were vaccinated. Had he been vaccinated, I'm pretty sure he would have survived. I didn't trust doctors before COVID and I don't trust them now. We can all read stories all day long about other people but I know this is how it went down for this family.
    Right but this is why you don't make social and medical decisions based on anecdotes. 

    And the thing about ivectrum is two fold: first,  it was not clinically tested for COVID so it would irresponsible for the FDA to recommend such a thing.  Second,  people were self medicating and taking animal level doses,  not human. 
    I totally get that but I was just stating a story that I personally know happened. I have heard of some people taking animal level doses but none of this family ended up in the hospital due to COVID or taking too much Ivermectin. Once again, I'm not saying this is why they survived and he didn't.  It was super sad to see this guy pass away because he was a good dude.
    How did they get the drug?  Was it prescribed or given in human dose?
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited October 2021
    JB16057 said:
    There was a healthy 44 year old that passed away from COVID about 2 weeks ago that I was friends with. I just spoke with someone that knew him and his family really well. The whole family, Mom, Dad & Sisters(and their families) got COVID. Laugh at it if you want to, but the whole family took Ivermectin and recovered. He was the only one that didn't take it and he passed away. He got submitted to the hospital and was given Remdesivir and his kidneys shut down just a couple days later.

    It's strange how COVID attacks some so badly and then other don't feel a thing. I'm not saying that Ivermectin is a miracle drug or that it even helps with COVID. I am not a doctor so I don't have a clue. What I do know is that his family all recovered. His parents are in their 70s and his sisters are in their 30s.

    None of them were vaccinated. Had he been vaccinated, I'm pretty sure he would have survived. I didn't trust doctors before COVID and I don't trust them now. We can all read stories all day long about other people but I know this is how it went down for this family.
    I’m starting to wonder if those claiming the Ivermectin works had an underlying parasite (worm) issue in their guts to begin with. It would make sense that treating an immune system compromising parasite could help you better handle a virus, right?  Maybe that is the real correlation, ha

    https://www.luminexcorp.com/blog/are-parasites-the-cause-of-excessive-tiredness-leaky-gut-syndrome-and-other-mystery-illnesses/

    “Inflammation caused by a parasitic infection can send the immune system into overdrive. More than two-thirds of the human immune system is located in the wall of the small intestine. When activated, regulatory proteins such as interleukins, other cytokines and dendritic cells are set in motion. They carry out the inflammatory response throughout the body, affecting the joints, eyes, lungs and giving rise to fatigue.”
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  • JB16057
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    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    There was a healthy 44 year old that passed away from COVID about 2 weeks ago that I was friends with. I just spoke with someone that knew him and his family really well. The whole family, Mom, Dad & Sisters(and their families) got COVID. Laugh at it if you want to, but the whole family took Ivermectin and recovered. He was the only one that didn't take it and he passed away. He got submitted to the hospital and was given Remdesivir and his kidneys shut down just a couple days later.

    It's strange how COVID attacks some so badly and then other don't feel a thing. I'm not saying that Ivermectin is a miracle drug or that it even helps with COVID. I am not a doctor so I don't have a clue. What I do know is that his family all recovered. His parents are in their 70s and his sisters are in their 30s.

    None of them were vaccinated. Had he been vaccinated, I'm pretty sure he would have survived. I didn't trust doctors before COVID and I don't trust them now. We can all read stories all day long about other people but I know this is how it went down for this family.
    Right but this is why you don't make social and medical decisions based on anecdotes. 

    And the thing about ivectrum is two fold: first,  it was not clinically tested for COVID so it would irresponsible for the FDA to recommend such a thing.  Second,  people were self medicating and taking animal level doses,  not human. 
    I totally get that but I was just stating a story that I personally know happened. I have heard of some people taking animal level doses but none of this family ended up in the hospital due to COVID or taking too much Ivermectin. Once again, I'm not saying this is why they survived and he didn't.  It was super sad to see this guy pass away because he was a good dude.
    How did they get the drug?  Was it prescribed or given in human dose?
    I know it was prescribed and I'm assuming they took a human dose but I don't know. I'm not advocating that this was the reason they survived and he didn't. I just thought it was interesting.

    The same family friend that told me about them was talking about someone else who is in the hospital right now and not doing so well. His family was somehow able to get Ivermectin shipped to them from Germany. They are sneaking it into him at the hospital now. Not sure if he is taking the animal dose or not.

    I know another person that is taking Ivermectin daily. She is a total Liberal and doesn't want to take the vaccine but for some reason will take Ivermectin daily....
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    PJPOWER said:
    More and more information coming out linking COVID-19 and Alzheimer’s disease.  The correlations seem to point to specific proteins linked to both Alzheimer’s and severe cases of COVID-19.  From what I gather, it seems like if you are someone susceptible to Alzheimer’s (due to this protein), your chances of getting a severe case of COVID-19 are also higher.  
    Wouldn’t it be great if this science leads to the prevention of both, COVID-19 and Alzheimer’s!  If you have ever known anyone that lived several years with Alzheimer’s, you know how much of a blessing it would be to have a way to prevent it…
    Here is a bit of info, but very technical.  
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7571527/

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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited October 2021
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    There was a healthy 44 year old that passed away from COVID about 2 weeks ago that I was friends with. I just spoke with someone that knew him and his family really well. The whole family, Mom, Dad & Sisters(and their families) got COVID. Laugh at it if you want to, but the whole family took Ivermectin and recovered. He was the only one that didn't take it and he passed away. He got submitted to the hospital and was given Remdesivir and his kidneys shut down just a couple days later.

    It's strange how COVID attacks some so badly and then other don't feel a thing. I'm not saying that Ivermectin is a miracle drug or that it even helps with COVID. I am not a doctor so I don't have a clue. What I do know is that his family all recovered. His parents are in their 70s and his sisters are in their 30s.

    None of them were vaccinated. Had he been vaccinated, I'm pretty sure he would have survived. I didn't trust doctors before COVID and I don't trust them now. We can all read stories all day long about other people but I know this is how it went down for this family.
    Right but this is why you don't make social and medical decisions based on anecdotes. 

    And the thing about ivectrum is two fold: first,  it was not clinically tested for COVID so it would irresponsible for the FDA to recommend such a thing.  Second,  people were self medicating and taking animal level doses,  not human. 
    I totally get that but I was just stating a story that I personally know happened. I have heard of some people taking animal level doses but none of this family ended up in the hospital due to COVID or taking too much Ivermectin. Once again, I'm not saying this is why they survived and he didn't.  It was super sad to see this guy pass away because he was a good dude.
    How did they get the drug?  Was it prescribed or given in human dose?
    I know it was prescribed and I'm assuming they took a human dose but I don't know. I'm not advocating that this was the reason they survived and he didn't. I just thought it was interesting.

    The same family friend that told me about them was talking about someone else who is in the hospital right now and not doing so well. His family was somehow able to get Ivermectin shipped to them from Germany. They are sneaking it into him at the hospital now. Not sure if he is taking the animal dose or not.

    I know another person that is taking Ivermectin daily. She is a total Liberal and doesn't want to take the vaccine but for some reason will take Ivermectin daily....
    Taking ivermectin daily (especially under their own reconnaissance) and sneaking it into the hospital for someone already on who-knows-what doesn’t sound like sane, sound/rational ideas in the least.
    I think some people will try anything once they get to the point that they are really sick in hopes of a miracle, since there is not a ton that can be done at that point.

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    OnWis97 said:
    My cynical gut reaction to this pill was "oh good, another thing for people to rage against."  And that might be right. My cursory skimming tells me that the pill is effective soon after diagnosis and NOT after shit starts to hit the fan.

    Based on the irrationale for vaccine hesitancy (unproven, new, not 100% effective, I'm not a sheep, I'm young and healthy, 99% survival rate, risking health/life out of spite), consistency would lead many of the same people to not take this pill. That said, a covid diagnosis might make it seem a bit more real and maybe many would decide that the smart move is to take it.

    I hope this thing pans out but I admit the likely reduction in vaccinations is concerning. I'd rather avoid covid than get it and cure it.
    this is why I think they will. so many stories of people with covid being admitted to ICU saying "I wish I had taken the vaccine". Now, I assume it would be too late for the pill at that point too. Who knows how the minds of these folks work. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    From WaPo.

    She lived a life of adventure that spanned two continents. She fell in love with a World War II fighter pilot, barely escaped Europe ahead of Benito Mussolini’s fascists, ground steel for the U.S. war effort and advocated for her disabled daughter in a far less enlightened time. She was, her daughter said, someone who didn’t make a habit of giving up.

    And then this month, at age 105, Primetta Giacopini’s life ended the way it began — in a pandemic.

    “I think my mother would have been around quite a bit longer” if she hadn’t contracted COVID, her 61-year-old daughter, Dorene Giacopini, said. “She was a fighter. She had a hard life and her attitude always was … basically, all Americans who were not around for World War II were basically spoiled brats.”

    Primetta Giacopini’s mother, Pasquina Fei, died in Connecticut of the flu in 1918 at age 25. That flu pandemic killed about 675,000 Americans — a death toll eclipsed this month by the 2020-21 coronavirus pandemic.

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  • Smellyman
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    LOL.  These clowns hopefully don't take it and get forced out.  The more morons are outed the better.

    President Biden's vaccine mandate is being challenged in a lawsuit filed by four active-duty US Air Force officers, a Secret Service agent, a Border Patrol agent, and four other federal employees or contractors. The lawsuit claimed that "convicted serial killers who have been sentenced to death receive more respect" than citizens who are required to take vaccines.



  • mickeyrat
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    Smellyman said:
    LOL.  These clowns hopefully don't take it and get forced out.  The more morons are outed the better.

    President Biden's vaccine mandate is being challenged in a lawsuit filed by four active-duty US Air Force officers, a Secret Service agent, a Border Patrol agent, and four other federal employees or contractors. The lawsuit claimed that "convicted serial killers who have been sentenced to death receive more respect" than citizens who are required to take vaccines.




    yrs, it IS so disrespectful to want to keep you and those around you alive. Meanwhile we do plan to kill those folks...

    respect.
    air force guys have ZERO recourse. You take whats given or get the fuck out.
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  • oftenreading
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    Preliminary data on use of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in kids 5-11 has been submitted to Health Canada for review, with the expectation that the full submission will be completed mid-October. The dose used was one third the adult dose.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pfizer-kids-vaccine-data-1.6197758?cmp=rss
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  • JB16057
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    I just found out that our county is running out of tests and it is a big issue. They were conserving tests last week but now we are at a dangerous level of not having enough tests. I live in Washington State and we've been one of the most strict when it comes to COVID rules and here we are, numbers are higher than ever and we have very little supply of tests in my county.

    If my kids say out loud that they have a sore throat at school, they get taken out of the school and can't return until we get an official negative test from the local Health Department. This should be interesting. I live in a rural county and have been lucky enough to not have a huge outbreak. Before last week the highest 1 day positive testing total was around 45. Friday the positive test total was 97 and now we're running out of tests.
  • Meltdown99
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    people are now allowed to dance in bars and weddings in my neck of the woods…lmfao.  Real life footloose taking place…what a fucking joke
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,781

    I have to watch Footloose again, I don't remember the part about the global pandemic that killed millions. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    edited October 2021
    Merkin Baller said:

    I have to watch Footloose again, I don't remember the part about the global pandemic that killed millions. 
    Kevin Bacon as Dr. Fauci. 
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  • Poncier
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    Merkin Baller said:

    I have to watch Footloose again, I don't remember the part about the global pandemic that killed millions. 
    They were all killed playing chicken on tractors.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Poncier said:
    Merkin Baller said:

    I have to watch Footloose again, I don't remember the part about the global pandemic that killed millions. 
    They were all killed playing chicken on tractors.
    As is their right.
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  • Poncier
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    This weekend we rock Portland
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    Covid confetti!
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    dankind said:
    Covid confetti!
    COVfetti?
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