When will we hear anything about tour rescheduling?
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tish said:10LordsALeaping said:Weston1283 said:Matts3221 said:NewJPage said:Zod said:NewJPage said:pjhawks said:NewJPage said:Seeing how the numbers are blowing up again in a lot of places, I wouldn't hold my breath. I for one would rather they get back in the studio as they are clearly in no rush, which I totally understand.I though I read that pfizer (and I suppose by proxy) Moderna, were something like 88 or 87% effective against Delta (two weeks after the 2nd shot)? It's the Astrazeneca that' is 60 something percent, but that one wasn't used in America?I think it was always known that vaccine people could be asymptomatic, but still spread the virus.This is going to make tough decisions. Do you do concerts for only people with vaccines, do you say fuck it, and play them anyway, and the people not getting vaccines can do as they will.. I dunno. If the vaccines aren't able to return to normal, at what point do we give up?
As for your 2nd point, covid is likely here forever. If we can get the deniers on board it will make things semi normal.
A lot of scientist are questioning the Israel numbers and want a peer reviewed study on the delta variant study of 63% effectiveness but for some reason Israel is not share the data.I want to see more evidence , also cases rising can be seen as an issue in the south and thru Texas with very low vaccination rates. 33% of all new cases are coming from just five states ( Florida , Louisiana , Arkansas , Missouri and Nevada. I think right now we are getting ahead of ourselves. My state saw an uptick in cases last week , our whole state went from 177 cases to 186 cases so increases of less than 10 in a single state is not like the winter when 200K cases a day were coming in.
Not to say we don't have a while too go but I also think as or right now the Delta variant is something I am only concerned about with unvaccinated , I still wear a mask when I grocery shop and I had both Pfizer shots in April.
Maybe being in New England is different as I think all of our states are in the top 10 of vaccinated residents.
Unfortunately, the media is making it sound way worse than it actually is (not surprising)
Again, the case numbers and death numbers for us being completely open for 6 weeks should make everyone feel great about coronavirus. We are moving and continue to move forward with this, regardless of what the media says. Let me know when we get back to even approaching the December-January numbers and ill come back here, say we f****d up and that I was wrong.I like how "the media" is being blamed. People should be scared because as this goes on more variants will pop up and it will be because of the unvaccinated.If any media should shoulder the blame it's Fox news, OAN, and other conservative outlets for downplaying this death disaster.
Are bands going to move forward with having crowds "fully vaccinated" when booster shots are the norm? What is our role and ethical obligation to other countries who are NOT getting vaccines when we move in to round three?
Very good point, its so upsetting to see humans begging for the vaccine yet here in the states , it basically comes down to who you voted for. I know that there are about 33% of republican's that have gotten the vaccine. It really is wild and basically a middle finger to science.0 -
Matts3221 said:tish said:10LordsALeaping said:Weston1283 said:Matts3221 said:NewJPage said:Zod said:NewJPage said:pjhawks said:NewJPage said:Seeing how the numbers are blowing up again in a lot of places, I wouldn't hold my breath. I for one would rather they get back in the studio as they are clearly in no rush, which I totally understand.I though I read that pfizer (and I suppose by proxy) Moderna, were something like 88 or 87% effective against Delta (two weeks after the 2nd shot)? It's the Astrazeneca that' is 60 something percent, but that one wasn't used in America?I think it was always known that vaccine people could be asymptomatic, but still spread the virus.This is going to make tough decisions. Do you do concerts for only people with vaccines, do you say fuck it, and play them anyway, and the people not getting vaccines can do as they will.. I dunno. If the vaccines aren't able to return to normal, at what point do we give up?
As for your 2nd point, covid is likely here forever. If we can get the deniers on board it will make things semi normal.
A lot of scientist are questioning the Israel numbers and want a peer reviewed study on the delta variant study of 63% effectiveness but for some reason Israel is not share the data.I want to see more evidence , also cases rising can be seen as an issue in the south and thru Texas with very low vaccination rates. 33% of all new cases are coming from just five states ( Florida , Louisiana , Arkansas , Missouri and Nevada. I think right now we are getting ahead of ourselves. My state saw an uptick in cases last week , our whole state went from 177 cases to 186 cases so increases of less than 10 in a single state is not like the winter when 200K cases a day were coming in.
Not to say we don't have a while too go but I also think as or right now the Delta variant is something I am only concerned about with unvaccinated , I still wear a mask when I grocery shop and I had both Pfizer shots in April.
Maybe being in New England is different as I think all of our states are in the top 10 of vaccinated residents.
Unfortunately, the media is making it sound way worse than it actually is (not surprising)
Again, the case numbers and death numbers for us being completely open for 6 weeks should make everyone feel great about coronavirus. We are moving and continue to move forward with this, regardless of what the media says. Let me know when we get back to even approaching the December-January numbers and ill come back here, say we f****d up and that I was wrong.I like how "the media" is being blamed. People should be scared because as this goes on more variants will pop up and it will be because of the unvaccinated.If any media should shoulder the blame it's Fox news, OAN, and other conservative outlets for downplaying this death disaster.
Are bands going to move forward with having crowds "fully vaccinated" when booster shots are the norm? What is our role and ethical obligation to other countries who are NOT getting vaccines when we move in to round three?
Very good point, its so upsetting to see humans begging for the vaccine yet here in the states , it basically comes down to who you voted for. I know that there are about 33% of republican's that have gotten the vaccine. It really is wild and basically a middle finger to science.
This is probably a question for a different thread and likely a different message board, but I don't understand why so many Republicans in the U.S. are against getting the vaccination. The Republican who was the president in the previous administration seemed to be all for it based on his "Operation Warp Speed" which helped get the vaccines developed in the first place. Normally, the supporters of the previous president follow and agree with him on basically everything (almost blindly). Why are they choosing to resist getting a vaccine which his administration was so instrumental in having developed?0 -
This is probably a question for a different thread and likely a different message board, but I don't understand why so many Republicans in the U.S. are against getting the vaccination. The Republican who was the president in the previous administration seemed to be all for it based on his "Operation Warp Speed" which helped get the vaccines developed in the first place. Normally, the supporters of the previous president follow and agree with him on basically everything (almost blindly). Why are they choosing to resist getting a vaccine which his administration was so instrumental in having developed?
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rey said:Matts3221 said:tish said:10LordsALeaping said:Weston1283 said:Matts3221 said:NewJPage said:Zod said:NewJPage said:pjhawks said:NewJPage said:Seeing how the numbers are blowing up again in a lot of places, I wouldn't hold my breath. I for one would rather they get back in the studio as they are clearly in no rush, which I totally understand.I though I read that pfizer (and I suppose by proxy) Moderna, were something like 88 or 87% effective against Delta (two weeks after the 2nd shot)? It's the Astrazeneca that' is 60 something percent, but that one wasn't used in America?I think it was always known that vaccine people could be asymptomatic, but still spread the virus.This is going to make tough decisions. Do you do concerts for only people with vaccines, do you say fuck it, and play them anyway, and the people not getting vaccines can do as they will.. I dunno. If the vaccines aren't able to return to normal, at what point do we give up?
As for your 2nd point, covid is likely here forever. If we can get the deniers on board it will make things semi normal.
A lot of scientist are questioning the Israel numbers and want a peer reviewed study on the delta variant study of 63% effectiveness but for some reason Israel is not share the data.I want to see more evidence , also cases rising can be seen as an issue in the south and thru Texas with very low vaccination rates. 33% of all new cases are coming from just five states ( Florida , Louisiana , Arkansas , Missouri and Nevada. I think right now we are getting ahead of ourselves. My state saw an uptick in cases last week , our whole state went from 177 cases to 186 cases so increases of less than 10 in a single state is not like the winter when 200K cases a day were coming in.
Not to say we don't have a while too go but I also think as or right now the Delta variant is something I am only concerned about with unvaccinated , I still wear a mask when I grocery shop and I had both Pfizer shots in April.
Maybe being in New England is different as I think all of our states are in the top 10 of vaccinated residents.
Unfortunately, the media is making it sound way worse than it actually is (not surprising)
Again, the case numbers and death numbers for us being completely open for 6 weeks should make everyone feel great about coronavirus. We are moving and continue to move forward with this, regardless of what the media says. Let me know when we get back to even approaching the December-January numbers and ill come back here, say we f****d up and that I was wrong.I like how "the media" is being blamed. People should be scared because as this goes on more variants will pop up and it will be because of the unvaccinated.If any media should shoulder the blame it's Fox news, OAN, and other conservative outlets for downplaying this death disaster.
Are bands going to move forward with having crowds "fully vaccinated" when booster shots are the norm? What is our role and ethical obligation to other countries who are NOT getting vaccines when we move in to round three?
Very good point, its so upsetting to see humans begging for the vaccine yet here in the states , it basically comes down to who you voted for. I know that there are about 33% of republican's that have gotten the vaccine. It really is wild and basically a middle finger to science.
This is probably a question for a different thread and likely a different message board, but I don't understand why so many Republicans in the U.S. are against getting the vaccination. The Republican who was the president in the previous administration seemed to be all for it based on his "Operation Warp Speed" which helped get the vaccines developed in the first place. Normally, the supporters of the previous president follow and agree with him on basically everything (almost blindly). Why are they choosing to resist getting a vaccine which his administration was so instrumental in having developed?
Honestly I think if Trump just did a PSA showing that he and his entire family have also gotten in and they ran it on FOX / Newsmax / OANN than you may get some of his people to get the vaccine as well.That said he made sure no photographs were in the room when he and his wife got both their shots. I know he spoke once about getting it but still said it was up to the people.
Jackass is getting his own supports to die this upcoming winter. Sorry OP to go off topic
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cblock4life said:It seems to me that most of you are in your late 30’s to early 50’s. I may be totally wrong, it’s just a guess. I think I saw a breakdown of members and there weren’t many over 55, but you’ve got to know that at 58, 59, 60 years things don’t work the same. I don’t care if you’re in the best shape ever….why is it no one takes their age into account? Unless you’re around their age (I am) you might not realize how they may feel everyday. Yes, once we get moving we’re fine but nothing about your body at 60 is the same anymore. My brain still thinks I’m thirty but my body is 60!
I think no one takes their age into account (me being one of them) is because they are all seemingly active recording and out there doing other things. Also age has nothing to do with letting your fans know tour status for 2022. I think the band is very much on the back burner for a certain member & only participates at this point out of obligation but what the hell do I know. I am just some rando on a fansite. As others have said before, they are very much a part time band & have been since the conclusion of the Avocado tour. The days of following them around all summer are gone.
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I'd be willing to bet that most of the republicans who are telling people not to get vaccinated actually did get vaccinated themselves. It's all about owning the libs and trying to look tough.
If Trump had even pretended to care about Covid, he'd still be president. It's gross to think about but it's true.
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Rescheduled show speculation---->Covid---->Trump. The natural evolution of threads in 2021.
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bbiggs said:Rescheduled show speculation---->Covid---->Trump. The natural evolution of threads in 2021.Boston '06
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bbiggs said:Rescheduled show speculation---->Covid---->Trump. The natural evolution of threads in 2021.Yeah, it's too bad his general ineptitude & blatant disregard led to all of this. Because it did. And most of us are still shellshocked from it all. Especially since we're not out of the woods yet. How selfish of us.The tour will get rescheduled. There will be some new shows. And because it IS all related, we need to be patient & vigilant. In all things.
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When they actually play the rescheduled shows doesn't matter to me as much as just finding out when they will be. My expectation for a while has been Spring of '22, so I have been purposely not been scheduling or committing to anything for the Spring. The only exception is we have a high school student council trip to Chicago in the Spring that I am chaperoning to plan for, with a date to be determined in the Fall. It would be great to know when PJ is playing so we can schedule the student council trip without worrying about it conflicting with the concert in St Louis and possibly Nashville. We also found out over the weekend that we have a grandkid due at the end of February. An announcement would be great.0
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lowbudgetlush said:cblock4life said:It seems to me that most of you are in your late 30’s to early 50’s. I may be totally wrong, it’s just a guess. I think I saw a breakdown of members and there weren’t many over 55, but you’ve got to know that at 58, 59, 60 years things don’t work the same. I don’t care if you’re in the best shape ever….why is it no one takes their age into account? Unless you’re around their age (I am) you might not realize how they may feel everyday. Yes, once we get moving we’re fine but nothing about your body at 60 is the same anymore. My brain still thinks I’m thirty but my body is 60!
I think no one takes their age into account (me being one of them) is because they are all seemingly active recording and out there doing other things. Also age has nothing to do with letting your fans know tour status for 2022. I think the band is very much on the back burner for a certain member & only participates at this point out of obligation but what the hell do I know. I am just some rando on a fansite. As others have said before, they are very much a part time band & have been since the conclusion of the Avocado tour. The days of following them around all summer are gone.0 -
JeBurkhardt said:When they actually play the rescheduled shows doesn't matter to me as much as just finding out when they will be. My expectation for a while has been Spring of '22, so I have been purposely not been scheduling or committing to anything for the Spring. The only exception is we have a high school student council trip to Chicago in the Spring that I am chaperoning to plan for, with a date to be determined in the Fall. It would be great to know when PJ is playing so we can schedule the student council trip without worrying about it conflicting with the concert in St Louis and possibly Nashville. We also found out over the weekend that we have a grandkid due at the end of February. An announcement would be great.0
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I should also add, while most Anti Vax folk are raging Trumpers, not all are
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hihobibo said:This is probably a question for a different thread and likely a different message board, but I don't understand why so many Republicans in the U.S. are against getting the vaccination. The Republican who was the president in the previous administration seemed to be all for it based on his "Operation Warp Speed" which helped get the vaccines developed in the first place. Normally, the supporters of the previous president follow and agree with him on basically everything (almost blindly). Why are they choosing to resist getting a vaccine which his administration was so instrumental in having developed?
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You all can argue about vax; anti vax; Delta variant; etc. all you want; I have $500+ tied into an airline ticket to LA; I want to know if these shows are going to be rescheduled and if so, will it be before the end of the year. I also have $350+ tied up in concert tickets. AA gave me an extension after the 2020 cancellation; initially until the end of 2020; I contacted AA and was told all tickets would be honored until December 31, 2021. I don't know that they will give me another extension. So if PJ doesn't announce the LA shows before December 31, 2021; I guess I'll be going to Spring Training in 2022. I do love Clearwater, FL and my Phils.Don't come closer or I'll have to go0
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The waiting (for postponed show dates or confirmation of no fall tour or random Seattle 30th anniversary shows or peace of mind that Ohana will definitely happen) drove me mad…0
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rey said:
Why are they choosing to resist getting a vaccine which his administration was so instrumental in having developed?
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10LordsALeaping said:People who won't get the vaccine shouldn't be allowed to go to large public events. Why allow ignorant and stupid behavior. It's those who won't get the vaccine that are variant factories.There is a decent chance it was at a large public event, maybe concerts, sports, or christian churches where an abnormal amount of those people are not vaccinated.Thank you Mike!!!
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