When will we hear anything about tour rescheduling?

jdahline

I can't believe we haven't gotten a single communication about tour reschedule. I get that it's a massive endeavor, but most other shows I had tickets to have not only set expectations, but most have issued new dates.

When we gonna hear about this? Anything?

CC9172

I think we can expect the schedule that was in 2020 since a lot of us held onto our tickets. When will they announce it? Probably when all the dates are scheduled.

RatherStarved

Nobody knows when they will break the silence but there were observations on another thread about dates in March 2022 being the likely outcome based on some inferences around Ticketmaster searches.  

PureandEasy

It would certainly be welcome if they announced rescheduled dates prior to the end of the year; some of us have been holding on to airline tickets that are due to expire at the end of 2021.  I don't know that I can get AA to extend my tickets beyond 2021.  I believe I'm good as long as I schedule flights before December 31, 2021.  I still have TM tix to both LA shows.  If these are not announced by the end of the year, I will plan another vacation and probably have to sell my LA tix.  

on2legs

PureandEasy said:

It would certainly be welcome if they announced rescheduled dates prior to the end of the year; some of us have been holding on to airline tickets that are due to expire at the end of 2021.  I don't know that I can get AA to extend my tickets beyond 2021.  I believe I'm good as long as I schedule flights before December 31, 2021.  I still have TM tix to both LA shows.  If these are not announced by the end of the year, I will plan another vacation and probably have to sell my LA tix.  

The airline situation is a legitimate concern.  You may want to email that info to the ten club… you never know but it might cause them to make an announcement sooner rather later knowing so many people are probably in a similar position with the way fans travel for these shows.  Here’s hoping you get some news soon so you can book your flights. 

ComeToTX

It’s definitely silly at this point. 

NewJPage

Seeing how the numbers are blowing up again in a lot of places, I wouldn't hold my breath. I for one would rather they get back in the studio as they are clearly in no rush, which I totally understand. 

pjhawks

NewJPage said:

Seeing how the numbers are blowing up again in a lot of places, I wouldn't hold my breath. I for one would rather they get back in the studio as they are clearly in no rush, which I totally understand. 

Except almost all new cases in America are those not vaccinated. Just require vaccinations for entry and reschedule the dates

NewJPage

pjhawks said:

NewJPage said:

Seeing how the numbers are blowing up again in a lot of places, I wouldn't hold my breath. I for one would rather they get back in the studio as they are clearly in no rush, which I totally understand. 

Except almost all new cases in America are those not vaccinated. Just require vaccinations for entry and reschedule the dates

Vaccine is 63% effective against Delta, which is what is spreading like crazy. #s of vaccinated that are covid + is increasing substantially. Still quite effective against hospitalization/death, but vaccinated are spreading covid

Zod

NewJPage said:

pjhawks said:

NewJPage said:

Seeing how the numbers are blowing up again in a lot of places, I wouldn't hold my breath. I for one would rather they get back in the studio as they are clearly in no rush, which I totally understand. 

Except almost all new cases in America are those not vaccinated. Just require vaccinations for entry and reschedule the dates

Vaccine is 63% effective against Delta, which is what is spreading like crazy. #s of vaccinated that are covid + is increasing substantially. Still quite effective against hospitalization/death, but vaccinated are spreading covid

I though I read that pfizer (and I suppose by proxy) Moderna, were something like 88 or 87% effective against Delta (two weeks after the 2nd shot)?  It's the Astrazeneca that' is 60 something percent, but that one wasn't used in America?

I think it was always known that vaccine people could be asymptomatic, but still spread the virus.

This is going to make tough decisions.  Do you do concerts for only people with vaccines, do you say fuck it, and play them anyway, and the people not getting vaccines can do as they will..  I dunno.   If the vaccines aren't able to return to normal, at what point do we give up?

NewJPage

Zod said:

NewJPage said:

pjhawks said:

NewJPage said:

Seeing how the numbers are blowing up again in a lot of places, I wouldn't hold my breath. I for one would rather they get back in the studio as they are clearly in no rush, which I totally understand. 

Except almost all new cases in America are those not vaccinated. Just require vaccinations for entry and reschedule the dates

Vaccine is 63% effective against Delta, which is what is spreading like crazy. #s of vaccinated that are covid + is increasing substantially. Still quite effective against hospitalization/death, but vaccinated are spreading covid

I though I read that pfizer (and I suppose by proxy) Moderna, were something like 88 or 87% effective against Delta (two weeks after the 2nd shot)?  It's the Astrazeneca that' is 60 something percent, but that one wasn't used in America?

I think it was always known that vaccine people could be asymptomatic, but still spread the virus.

This is going to make tough decisions.  Do you do concerts for only people with vaccines, do you say fuck it, and play them anyway, and the people not getting vaccines can do as they will..  I dunno.   If the vaccines aren't able to return to normal, at what point do we give up?

Israel is at 63% and it used Pfizer. 42 states are seeing increasing cases...give it a week and it will be all 50.

As for your 2nd point, covid is likely here forever. If we can get the deniers on board it will make things semi normal. 

chiefnjk

jdahline said:

I can't believe we haven't gotten a single communication about tour reschedule. I get that it's a massive endeavor, but most other shows I had tickets to have not only set expectations, but most have issued new dates.

When we gonna hear about this? Anything?

PJNB

NewJPage said:

Zod said:

NewJPage said:

pjhawks said:

NewJPage said:

Seeing how the numbers are blowing up again in a lot of places, I wouldn't hold my breath. I for one would rather they get back in the studio as they are clearly in no rush, which I totally understand. 

Except almost all new cases in America are those not vaccinated. Just require vaccinations for entry and reschedule the dates

Vaccine is 63% effective against Delta, which is what is spreading like crazy. #s of vaccinated that are covid + is increasing substantially. Still quite effective against hospitalization/death, but vaccinated are spreading covid

I though I read that pfizer (and I suppose by proxy) Moderna, were something like 88 or 87% effective against Delta (two weeks after the 2nd shot)?  It's the Astrazeneca that' is 60 something percent, but that one wasn't used in America?

I think it was always known that vaccine people could be asymptomatic, but still spread the virus.

This is going to make tough decisions.  Do you do concerts for only people with vaccines, do you say fuck it, and play them anyway, and the people not getting vaccines can do as they will..  I dunno.   If the vaccines aren't able to return to normal, at what point do we give up?

Israel is at 63% and it used Pfizer. 42 states are seeing increasing cases...give it a week and it will be all 50.

As for your 2nd point, covid is likely here forever. If we can get the deniers on board it will make things semi normal. 

You are missing one key piece of info from your post though. All the approved vaccines are more than 90% effective in preventing severe disease. That is the most important number. Look at the UK. They are having a lot of cases and their deaths and hospitalizations are incredibly low for their numbers. 

Lets get these reschedules new dates! 

ComeToTX

If they’re waiting for Covid to be gone then we’ve seen their last show. 

NewJPage

PJNB said:

NewJPage said:

Zod said:

NewJPage said:

pjhawks said:

NewJPage said:

Seeing how the numbers are blowing up again in a lot of places, I wouldn't hold my breath. I for one would rather they get back in the studio as they are clearly in no rush, which I totally understand. 

Except almost all new cases in America are those not vaccinated. Just require vaccinations for entry and reschedule the dates

Vaccine is 63% effective against Delta, which is what is spreading like crazy. #s of vaccinated that are covid + is increasing substantially. Still quite effective against hospitalization/death, but vaccinated are spreading covid

I though I read that pfizer (and I suppose by proxy) Moderna, were something like 88 or 87% effective against Delta (two weeks after the 2nd shot)?  It's the Astrazeneca that' is 60 something percent, but that one wasn't used in America?

I think it was always known that vaccine people could be asymptomatic, but still spread the virus.

This is going to make tough decisions.  Do you do concerts for only people with vaccines, do you say fuck it, and play them anyway, and the people not getting vaccines can do as they will..  I dunno.   If the vaccines aren't able to return to normal, at what point do we give up?

Israel is at 63% and it used Pfizer. 42 states are seeing increasing cases...give it a week and it will be all 50.

As for your 2nd point, covid is likely here forever. If we can get the deniers on board it will make things semi normal. 

You are missing one key piece of info from your post though. All the approved vaccines are more than 90% effective in preventing severe disease. That is the most important number. Look at the UK. They are having a lot of cases and their deaths and hospitalizations are incredibly low for their numbers. 

Lets get these reschedules new dates! 

I said that earlier. That doesn't mean it will stay that way, sadly, especially as more variants crop up.

PJNB

NewJPage said:

PJNB said:

NewJPage said:

Zod said:

NewJPage said:

pjhawks said:

NewJPage said:

Seeing how the numbers are blowing up again in a lot of places, I wouldn't hold my breath. I for one would rather they get back in the studio as they are clearly in no rush, which I totally understand. 

Except almost all new cases in America are those not vaccinated. Just require vaccinations for entry and reschedule the dates

Vaccine is 63% effective against Delta, which is what is spreading like crazy. #s of vaccinated that are covid + is increasing substantially. Still quite effective against hospitalization/death, but vaccinated are spreading covid

I though I read that pfizer (and I suppose by proxy) Moderna, were something like 88 or 87% effective against Delta (two weeks after the 2nd shot)?  It's the Astrazeneca that' is 60 something percent, but that one wasn't used in America?

I think it was always known that vaccine people could be asymptomatic, but still spread the virus.

This is going to make tough decisions.  Do you do concerts for only people with vaccines, do you say fuck it, and play them anyway, and the people not getting vaccines can do as they will..  I dunno.   If the vaccines aren't able to return to normal, at what point do we give up?

Israel is at 63% and it used Pfizer. 42 states are seeing increasing cases...give it a week and it will be all 50.

As for your 2nd point, covid is likely here forever. If we can get the deniers on board it will make things semi normal. 

You are missing one key piece of info from your post though. All the approved vaccines are more than 90% effective in preventing severe disease. That is the most important number. Look at the UK. They are having a lot of cases and their deaths and hospitalizations are incredibly low for their numbers. 

Lets get these reschedules new dates! 

I said that earlier. That doesn't mean it will stay that way, sadly, especially as more variants crop up.

Missed that part but still what are we supposed to do going forward? We are not going to force vaccinations on people and as you said variants will continue to crop up. It sounds to me like you are good to not go to shows for awhile. Does that mean that the rest of us have to suffer no shows too? 

bbiggs

PJNB said:

NewJPage said:

Zod said:

NewJPage said:

pjhawks said:

NewJPage said:

Seeing how the numbers are blowing up again in a lot of places, I wouldn't hold my breath. I for one would rather they get back in the studio as they are clearly in no rush, which I totally understand. 

Except almost all new cases in America are those not vaccinated. Just require vaccinations for entry and reschedule the dates

Vaccine is 63% effective against Delta, which is what is spreading like crazy. #s of vaccinated that are covid + is increasing substantially. Still quite effective against hospitalization/death, but vaccinated are spreading covid

I though I read that pfizer (and I suppose by proxy) Moderna, were something like 88 or 87% effective against Delta (two weeks after the 2nd shot)?  It's the Astrazeneca that' is 60 something percent, but that one wasn't used in America?

I think it was always known that vaccine people could be asymptomatic, but still spread the virus.

This is going to make tough decisions.  Do you do concerts for only people with vaccines, do you say fuck it, and play them anyway, and the people not getting vaccines can do as they will..  I dunno.   If the vaccines aren't able to return to normal, at what point do we give up?

Israel is at 63% and it used Pfizer. 42 states are seeing increasing cases...give it a week and it will be all 50.

As for your 2nd point, covid is likely here forever. If we can get the deniers on board it will make things semi normal. 

You are missing one key piece of info from your post though. All the approved vaccines are more than 90% effective in preventing severe disease. That is the most important number. Look at the UK. They are having a lot of cases and their deaths and hospitalizations are incredibly low for their numbers. 

Lets get these reschedules new dates! 

Agreed.  I don't like commenting on the never-ending Covid talk on the boards, but...

• >95%+/- effective at preventing serious illness and death from Delta or any other known strain.
• The most vulnerable in the U.S. (elderly, co-morbidities, etc.) have been vaccinated or have the opportunity to get it.
• Sporting events, concerts, etc. have been taking place with no known issue.

If we don't get on with life we'll be stuck in neutral forever.  And for those that don't want to attend a show, no problem.  It is not mandatory.

NewJPage

PJNB said:

NewJPage said:

PJNB said:

NewJPage said:

Zod said:

NewJPage said:

pjhawks said:

NewJPage said:

Seeing how the numbers are blowing up again in a lot of places, I wouldn't hold my breath. I for one would rather they get back in the studio as they are clearly in no rush, which I totally understand. 

Except almost all new cases in America are those not vaccinated. Just require vaccinations for entry and reschedule the dates

Vaccine is 63% effective against Delta, which is what is spreading like crazy. #s of vaccinated that are covid + is increasing substantially. Still quite effective against hospitalization/death, but vaccinated are spreading covid

I though I read that pfizer (and I suppose by proxy) Moderna, were something like 88 or 87% effective against Delta (two weeks after the 2nd shot)?  It's the Astrazeneca that' is 60 something percent, but that one wasn't used in America?

I think it was always known that vaccine people could be asymptomatic, but still spread the virus.

This is going to make tough decisions.  Do you do concerts for only people with vaccines, do you say fuck it, and play them anyway, and the people not getting vaccines can do as they will..  I dunno.   If the vaccines aren't able to return to normal, at what point do we give up?

Israel is at 63% and it used Pfizer. 42 states are seeing increasing cases...give it a week and it will be all 50.

As for your 2nd point, covid is likely here forever. If we can get the deniers on board it will make things semi normal. 

You are missing one key piece of info from your post though. All the approved vaccines are more than 90% effective in preventing severe disease. That is the most important number. Look at the UK. They are having a lot of cases and their deaths and hospitalizations are incredibly low for their numbers. 

Lets get these reschedules new dates! 

I said that earlier. That doesn't mean it will stay that way, sadly, especially as more variants crop up.

Missed that part but still what are we supposed to do going forward? We are not going to force vaccinations on people and as you said variants will continue to crop up. It sounds to me like you are good to not go to shows for awhile. Does that mean that the rest of us have to suffer no shows too? 

I'm not arguing what people should or shouldn't do, I'm just saying that there is a lot that can change in a short period of time and the band seems like they are not in a rush to get out there because of that. 

As for me, no, I have no interest cramming shoulder to shoulder with 20k people that may or may not be vaccinated. 

Weston1283

ComeToTX said:

If they’re waiting for Covid to be gone then we’ve seen their last show. 

Yep

RatherStarved

bbiggs said:

PJNB said:

NewJPage said:

Zod said:

NewJPage said:

pjhawks said:

NewJPage said:

Seeing how the numbers are blowing up again in a lot of places, I wouldn't hold my breath. I for one would rather they get back in the studio as they are clearly in no rush, which I totally understand. 

Except almost all new cases in America are those not vaccinated. Just require vaccinations for entry and reschedule the dates

Vaccine is 63% effective against Delta, which is what is spreading like crazy. #s of vaccinated that are covid + is increasing substantially. Still quite effective against hospitalization/death, but vaccinated are spreading covid

I though I read that pfizer (and I suppose by proxy) Moderna, were something like 88 or 87% effective against Delta (two weeks after the 2nd shot)?  It's the Astrazeneca that' is 60 something percent, but that one wasn't used in America?

I think it was always known that vaccine people could be asymptomatic, but still spread the virus.

This is going to make tough decisions.  Do you do concerts for only people with vaccines, do you say fuck it, and play them anyway, and the people not getting vaccines can do as they will..  I dunno.   If the vaccines aren't able to return to normal, at what point do we give up?

Israel is at 63% and it used Pfizer. 42 states are seeing increasing cases...give it a week and it will be all 50.

As for your 2nd point, covid is likely here forever. If we can get the deniers on board it will make things semi normal. 

You are missing one key piece of info from your post though. All the approved vaccines are more than 90% effective in preventing severe disease. That is the most important number. Look at the UK. They are having a lot of cases and their deaths and hospitalizations are incredibly low for their numbers. 

Lets get these reschedules new dates! 

Agreed.  I don't like commenting on the never-ending Covid talk on the boards, but...

• >95%+/- effective at preventing serious illness and death from Delta or any other known strain.
• The most vulnerable in the U.S. (elderly, co-morbidities, etc.) have been vaccinated or have the opportunity to get it.
• Sporting events, concerts, etc. have been taking place with no known issue.

If we don't get on with life we'll be stuck in neutral forever.  And for those that don't want to attend a show, no problem.  It is not mandatory.

The third bullet is the most relevant thing anyone has said.

Zod

I don't think their waiting for Covid19 to be completely gone.   They seem to be giving it some time to ensure vaccines really did make it manageable.  IE that between say now and when a tour happens, that somethings doesn't happen to make it widespread again.

I assumed they're being moderately cautious.  Doing a few outdoor festivals to test the waters, then making up the postponed shows early next year.

I don't think they're not going to play again.  I think they're being moderately cautious and ensuring the positive situation we're in now holds up.

That being said, I do like the idea of fully vaxxed shows.  Seems like the safest way to do a show right now.  I suppose if you have 4 or 5 months lag time between announcing a tour, and playing the tour, something could go south again (like a variant the vaccine doesn't work on), but I dunno. I think Covid is going to be around a while.  You sort of have to work around it.

I understand PJ being cautious.  It probably weighs on them what happened at Roskilde, and they probably don't want fans dying because they went to a show.   I understand why they would want to wade back into it, instead of jumping head first like some other bands are doing.