The costs alone of having to get a negative test even while vaccinated would mean me catching less shows on any upcoming tour, especially PJ where I’m already spending $$$ to travel
One or the other is plenty
I understand your position on this, and the realities of shouldering additional financial burden. However, I think your last statement oversimplifies our current situation, and places the onus on convenience over safety.
If I didn’t check the “I work in healthcare” box, my covid test for Hawaii in June would have cost over 100$
I have no problem getting swabbed before every concert if there’s a free way to do so
But then there’s the risk of losing $$$ on multiple shows if you are asymptomatic test positive. Are they willing to refund vaccinated guests who have done everything right but somehow test positive before the show?
I just think there would be so many refund requests, before and after the show, and so many more logistical issues if they mandated both, that I think PJ would rather post pone again than do so
Jeff said he was hesitant to even play shows where he would have to demand a vaccine card. Can’t imagine them ever doing that AND a test, they would just move the shows again.
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2010: Cleveland 2012: Atlanta 2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II 2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver 2015: New York City 2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco 2017: Ohana Fest (EV) 2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II 2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2 2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver 2023: St. Paul II
If I didn’t check the “I work in healthcare” box, my covid test for Hawaii in June would have cost over 100$
I have no problem getting swabbed before every concert if there’s a free way to do so
But then there’s the risk of losing $$$ on multiple shows if you are asymptomatic test positive. Are they willing to refund vaccinated guests who have done everything right but somehow test positive before the show?
I just think there would be so many refund requests, before and after the show, and so many more logistical issues if they mandated both, that I think PJ would rather post pone again than do so
Jeff said he was hesitant to even play shows where he would have to demand a vaccine card. Can’t imagine them ever doing that AND a test, they would just move the shows again.
My ultimate fear is being fully vaccinated and having a false positive the day of a show.
That and rats……big fear of rats.
1996.....Toronto 2005.....Hamilton 2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton 2013.....London, Buffalo 2014.....Detroit 2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1 2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2 2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto 2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2 2024.....????
If I didn’t check the “I work in healthcare” box, my covid test for Hawaii in June would have cost over 100$
I have no problem getting swabbed before every concert if there’s a free way to do so
But then there’s the risk of losing $$$ on multiple shows if you are asymptomatic test positive. Are they willing to refund vaccinated guests who have done everything right but somehow test positive before the show?
I just think there would be so many refund requests, before and after the show, and so many more logistical issues if they mandated both, that I think PJ would rather post pone again than do so
Jeff said he was hesitant to even play shows where he would have to demand a vaccine card. Can’t imagine them ever doing that AND a test, they would just move the shows again.
My ultimate fear is being fully vaccinated and having a false positive the day of a show.
That and rats……big fear of rats.
"Thanks for wearing your mask and getting fully vaccinated. You tested positive so now you're out $100+ for concert tickets, travel costs and time. But hey, try again next tour!"
I cant imagine any scenario where PJ requires both and allows this ^ to happen.
2010: Cleveland 2012: Atlanta 2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II 2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver 2015: New York City 2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco 2017: Ohana Fest (EV) 2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II 2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2 2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver 2023: St. Paul II
Live Nation will require not only fans, but bands and crew as well, to show proof of vaccination or negative covid test
This could cause some major roadblocks if certain bands aren’t fully vaccinated
This is for all AEG and LiveNation venues, not just in Cleveland (Cleveland news source below)
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2010: Cleveland 2012: Atlanta 2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II 2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver 2015: New York City 2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco 2017: Ohana Fest (EV) 2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II 2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2 2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver 2023: St. Paul II
Live Nation will require not only fans, but bands and crew as well, to show proof of vaccination or negative covid test
This could cause some major roadblocks if certain bands aren’t fully vaccinated
This is for all AEG and LiveNation venues, not just in Cleveland (Cleveland news source below)
2021 thread but how long does this go on for and how does this affect PJ's arena shows in 2022? Jeff's interview would have you believe they are not into doing a full tour with this set up.
Live Nation will require not only fans, but bands and crew as well, to show proof of vaccination or negative covid test
This could cause some major roadblocks if certain bands aren’t fully vaccinated
This is for all AEG and LiveNation venues, not just in Cleveland (Cleveland news source below)
2021 thread but how long does this go on for and how does this affect PJ's arena shows in 2022? Jeff's interview would have you believe they are not into doing a full tour with this set up.
jeff's comment on that confused me. an anti-vaxxer could have read that as almost support, but maybe he meant he just didn't want the hassle? because he is very pro-vaccine in every other way.
Live Nation will require not only fans, but bands and crew as well, to show proof of vaccination or negative covid test
This could cause some major roadblocks if certain bands aren’t fully vaccinated
This is for all AEG and LiveNation venues, not just in Cleveland (Cleveland news source below)
2021 thread but how long does this go on for and how does this affect PJ's arena shows in 2022? Jeff's interview would have you believe they are not into doing a full tour with this set up.
Probably until case numbers are a lot less than they are now. I’m fine as long as it’s either/or. Interesting that it kicks in two days after Encore - mind you I expect Ohana to follow SHNs lead on this anyway.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
I just bought Death From Above tickets for their Winnipeg date March 21st. The Ottawa reshedule was rumoured to be March 21st as well. Hopefully not. I couldn't wait on DFA in such a small venue and risk a sellout and the PJ show not being on that date.
All these baby steps lead to 1 path…mass-gathering shutdowns again.
not sure if you are paying attention but the current wave is showing signs of it plateauing already. No need for mass gathering shutdowns with a vaccine and a variant that will be reaching its peak now and or soon. This is here to stay so we will work around it, not close stuff. That just wont happen. It did last year before a vaccine. Now that it is available to all, no shutdowns on a large scale will happen.
All these baby steps lead to 1 path…mass-gathering shutdowns again.
not sure if you are paying attention but the current wave is showing signs of it plateauing already. No need for mass gathering shutdowns with a vaccine and a variant that will be reaching its peak now and or soon. This is here to stay so we will work around it, not close stuff. That just wont happen. It did last year before a vaccine. Now that it is available to all, no shutdowns on a large scale will happen.
I’m talking about concerts getting cancelled and sports going fan-less. We’ll see.
All these baby steps lead to 1 path…mass-gathering shutdowns again.
not sure if you are paying attention but the current wave is showing signs of it plateauing already. No need for mass gathering shutdowns with a vaccine and a variant that will be reaching its peak now and or soon. This is here to stay so we will work around it, not close stuff. That just wont happen. It did last year before a vaccine. Now that it is available to all, no shutdowns on a large scale will happen.
I’m talking about concerts getting cancelled and sports going fan-less. We’ll see.
I see it the opposite way. This is how we remain having those things you just mentioned.
All these baby steps lead to 1 path…mass-gathering shutdowns again.
not sure if you are paying attention but the current wave is showing signs of it plateauing already. No need for mass gathering shutdowns with a vaccine and a variant that will be reaching its peak now and or soon. This is here to stay so we will work around it, not close stuff. That just wont happen. It did last year before a vaccine. Now that it is available to all, no shutdowns on a large scale will happen.
with how quickly this thing mutates and creates something far more deadly and/or contagious, nothing is for certain.
All these baby steps lead to 1 path…mass-gathering shutdowns again.
not sure if you are paying attention but the current wave is showing signs of it plateauing already. No need for mass gathering shutdowns with a vaccine and a variant that will be reaching its peak now and or soon. This is here to stay so we will work around it, not close stuff. That just wont happen. It did last year before a vaccine. Now that it is available to all, no shutdowns on a large scale will happen.
I’m talking about concerts getting cancelled and sports going fan-less. We’ll see.
Concerts being cancelled, yeah I can see that because it is based on the band. But I don't think any major American sports will go empty again. Canadian teams possibly, but with FL and TX governors having little concern for school kids, there is no way they'd shut down billion dollar sports teams from having fans.
Garth doesn’t want to do vax only shows, I’m guessing. His crowd might kill him over that.
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PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, all of Vitalogy or Satan's Bed, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways (full band), You Are, Bu$hleaguer, Inside Job, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Of The Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Comfortably Numb, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
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I have no problem getting swabbed before every concert if there’s a free way to do so
But then there’s the risk of losing $$$ on multiple shows if you are asymptomatic test positive. Are they willing to refund vaccinated guests who have done everything right but somehow test positive before the show?
I just think there would be so many refund requests, before and after the show, and so many more logistical issues if they mandated both, that I think PJ would rather post pone again than do so
Jeff said he was hesitant to even play shows where he would have to demand a vaccine card. Can’t imagine them ever doing that AND a test, they would just move the shows again.
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2005.....Hamilton
2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
2013.....London, Buffalo
2014.....Detroit
2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
2024.....????
I cant imagine any scenario where PJ requires both and allows this ^ to happen.
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
Live Nation will require not only fans, but bands and crew as well, to show proof of vaccination or negative covid test
This could cause some major roadblocks if certain bands aren’t fully vaccinated
This is for all AEG and LiveNation venues, not just in Cleveland (Cleveland news source below)
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
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2000: Pitt
2003: Pitt, State College, Columbus,DC, Hershey
2004: Reading, Toledo, DC
2005: Pitt
2006: Cleve, Camden 1+2, DC, Pitt, Cinci
2008: Camden 1+2, DC
2009: Philly 3
2010: Columbus
2012: Philly
2013: Pitt, NYC 1+2
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
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Bridge School '06 Night 1 & 2
Venice '07 pummeled by the sleet!
Nijmegen '07
Werchter '07
April Fools ~ LA1
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Cincinnati 2014
Greenville 2016
(Raleigh 2016)
Columbia 2016
https://www.wcvb.com/article/garth-brooks-cancels-gillette-stadium-show-because-of-covid-surge/37340340
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, all of Vitalogy or Satan's Bed, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways (full band), You Are, Bu$hleaguer, Inside Job, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Of The Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Comfortably Numb, and the Mamasan Trilogy.