2021 Tour Rumors - Let’s Go!!!!!!!!!!

vedpunk

I just hope the band puts as much effort into their day jobs as all their other side projects and non musical initiatives.  They have built a great legacy and have accomplished almost everything so it wouldn't surprise me if they just rode off into the sunset.  

estarr31

vedpunk said:

I just hope the band puts as much effort into their day jobs as all their other side projects and non musical initiatives.  They have built a great legacy and have accomplished almost everything so it wouldn't surprise me if they just rode off into the sunset.  

they just came out with an album they were ready to tour for. They ain't done yet. 

tdawe

PJNB said:

Maybe, now give me a second here this might just sound crazy, just maybe the band has been waiting until a date they felt comfortable with with the reschedules and not being in a position to constantly have to push those dates over and over again like all of the other bands. Of course I want more communication. Of course I want to know the dates right now. But I do appreciate the band keeping the shows that they had and allowing us to keep our tickets. The shows will happen next spring it looks like and I can not fucking wait. 

But don’t they also spend all their time on internet message boards driving themselves crazy flinging rumors and hopes and theories off one another, to the point where they seem genuinely confused about why a band wouldn’t put out a public statement that says “nothing to report”?

Jadler

Everyone is back on the board complaining and speculating about future tour dates & the status of the band’s psyche. Nature is healing!

Zod

jimjam1982 said:

Weston1283 said:

I’m not there yet, but if the next couple weeks pass and we don’t even get a vague update or something saying they’re working on the dates, then I’m chalking it up to some sort of internal disagreement to be honest

They have had 14 months to think about the different scenarios, and the promoters have gotten the green light.  Something doesn’t add up if this drags out beyond mid to end of June.

The last couple of weeks, concert announcements have been rolling out by the day, and many days, by the hour.  So the silence makes less and less sense as the days go on.

It really does have to be internal disagreement.  There are a few things:
1st - This isn't even serious at this point (it never really was but that's another topic)
2nd - There are events commencing of 100k plus person festivals (outdoors 150k vs 18k indoor - its really negligible - if you have ever been at a 3 or 4 day festival you know those outdoor showers/bathrooms/camping locations are trash - an arena for 5 hours is FAR cleaner/safer)
3rd - There are a plethora of internal arena shows being announced, with more coming every week.
4th - "The Science" has already said everything was fine as of like 4 weeks ago and it's still radio silence.

Maybe the band is just gonna retire. Have they just lost interest due to this sedimentary lifestyle that was forced on everyone?  Every other 2020 tour has been rescheduled already or they were canceled.  This band is the last band standing, and quite frankly, they have the most dedicated fans that they are just fucking over with no updates.  Seems bizarre that the most loyal fans are treated the worst.

Pearl Jam is notorious for taking there time with stuff.   Does it really surprise you they'd be one of the last bands to reschedule their tours?   They tend to err completely on the side of caution (ergo being the first band to postpone their tour when Covid started getting serious).   

Probably radio silence because that's what PJ does with every tour.  They pretty much say nothing until the dates get announced.  They don't spill any beans except for maybe a week before a little birdie will chirp about making sure you buy a 10c membership (which I'm guessing won't apply this time).  Communication has never really been PJ's strongpoint.  They announce stuff when it's ready to be announced.  They say very little until they want it to public.  Is that great?  not really.  Is it typical for this band, yah.

Not every cancelled 2020 tour has been rescheduled.   I don't think Tool or the Rolling Stones have rescheduled yet either.

At this point it's just snowballing.   GNR and FF released some dates today.  Every day more and more bands are figuring out their stuff.

I don't think PJ not being at the front of the pack warrants panick.   It's pretty typical for this band.  I'm ok with that... it's whart I've come to expect.  They'll probably do those few dates this year, and make up the cancelled tours in 2022.   We'll get the shows.. just a few months later then some of these early bands.

Vedd Hedd

jimjam1982 said:

Weston1283 said:

I’m not there yet, but if the next couple weeks pass and we don’t even get a vague update or something saying they’re working on the dates, then I’m chalking it up to some sort of internal disagreement to be honest

They have had 14 months to think about the different scenarios, and the promoters have gotten the green light.  Something doesn’t add up if this drags out beyond mid to end of June.

The last couple of weeks, concert announcements have been rolling out by the day, and many days, by the hour.  So the silence makes less and less sense as the days go on.

It really does have to be internal disagreement.  There are a few things:
1st - This isn't even serious at this point (it never really was but that's another topic)
2nd - There are events commencing of 100k plus person festivals (outdoors 150k vs 18k indoor - its really negligible - if you have ever been at a 3 or 4 day festival you know those outdoor showers/bathrooms/camping locations are trash - an arena for 5 hours is FAR cleaner/safer)
3rd - There are a plethora of internal arena shows being announced, with more coming every week.
4th - "The Science" has already said everything was fine as of like 4 weeks ago and it's still radio silence.

Maybe the band is just gonna retire. Have they just lost interest due to this sedimentary lifestyle that was forced on everyone?  Every other 2020 tour has been rescheduled already or they were canceled.  This band is the last band standing, and quite frankly, they have the most dedicated fans that they are just fucking over with no updates.  Seems bizarre that the most loyal fans are treated the worst.

This is a very strange take.  

1.  Are you saying the pandemic isnt serious at this point? And was never serious?
2. Yes some things are scheduled. The Indy 500 just had the largest public gathering since the start of the pandemic....135,000 people...but that was still just 40% capacity.  It will be interesting to see how cases are in 14 days. But I agree that things are winding down at the moment. 
3.  Those could all still be cancelled.  Some things are still getting moved. 
4. I dont think "The Science" has said "everything is fine!" at all.   I think they said, "ok, with good weather, some outdoor stuff is ok, and some indoor restrictions are in place, but we are moving in an ok place."   but that is all basically the US, not necessarily other countries, esp Canada, and Canada is a part of that tour.  
I dont think they all lost interest, I think they are trying to figure out how do deal with a tour that has border crossings for both the band and the fans.  

PJNB

tdawe said:

PJNB said:

Maybe, now give me a second here this might just sound crazy, just maybe the band has been waiting until a date they felt comfortable with with the reschedules and not being in a position to constantly have to push those dates over and over again like all of the other bands. Of course I want more communication. Of course I want to know the dates right now. But I do appreciate the band keeping the shows that they had and allowing us to keep our tickets. The shows will happen next spring it looks like and I can not fucking wait. 

But don’t they also spend all their time on internet message boards driving themselves crazy flinging rumors and hopes and theories off one another, to the point where they seem genuinely confused about why a band wouldn’t put out a public statement that says “nothing to report”?

I feel like you are lumping a lot of different people all into the same category though. I enjoy the rumours and speculations that come from other fans whether it is a dead end or not. It is fun to chase down for some and it appears thats just not for you which is fine but what I am not sure is why it bothers you so much.  Not all rumour threads can have Dimi in it telling us the colour of the arena and the mascot name is as hints with us skattering around looking to find the answers. 

tdawe

PJNB said:

tdawe said:

PJNB said:

Maybe, now give me a second here this might just sound crazy, just maybe the band has been waiting until a date they felt comfortable with with the reschedules and not being in a position to constantly have to push those dates over and over again like all of the other bands. Of course I want more communication. Of course I want to know the dates right now. But I do appreciate the band keeping the shows that they had and allowing us to keep our tickets. The shows will happen next spring it looks like and I can not fucking wait. 

But don’t they also spend all their time on internet message boards driving themselves crazy flinging rumors and hopes and theories off one another, to the point where they seem genuinely confused about why a band wouldn’t put out a public statement that says “nothing to report”?

I feel like you are lumping a lot of different people all into the same category though. I enjoy the rumours and speculations that come from other fans whether it is a dead end or not. It is fun to chase down for some and it appears thats just not for you which is fine but what I am not sure is why it bothers you so much.  Not all rumour threads can have Dimi in it telling us the colour of the arena and the mascot name is as hints with us skattering around looking to find the answers. 

Oh don’t get me wrong, I enjoy the rumors and speculation as much as the next person; it’s a big part of why I come here. But I don’t think that my consumption of, or participation in, those rumors and speculation creates any kind of obligation on the part of the band or anyone else to address them. We all need to remind ourselves sometimes that this is an echo chamber full of lunatics, and that outside in the real world there’s nothing strange at all about a band not making a tour announcement until there’s a tour to announce.

PJNB

tdawe said:

PJNB said:

tdawe said:

PJNB said:

Maybe, now give me a second here this might just sound crazy, just maybe the band has been waiting until a date they felt comfortable with with the reschedules and not being in a position to constantly have to push those dates over and over again like all of the other bands. Of course I want more communication. Of course I want to know the dates right now. But I do appreciate the band keeping the shows that they had and allowing us to keep our tickets. The shows will happen next spring it looks like and I can not fucking wait. 

But don’t they also spend all their time on internet message boards driving themselves crazy flinging rumors and hopes and theories off one another, to the point where they seem genuinely confused about why a band wouldn’t put out a public statement that says “nothing to report”?

I feel like you are lumping a lot of different people all into the same category though. I enjoy the rumours and speculations that come from other fans whether it is a dead end or not. It is fun to chase down for some and it appears thats just not for you which is fine but what I am not sure is why it bothers you so much.  Not all rumour threads can have Dimi in it telling us the colour of the arena and the mascot name is as hints with us skattering around looking to find the answers. 

Oh don’t get me wrong, I enjoy the rumors and speculation as much as the next person; it’s a big part of why I come here. But I don’t think that my consumption of, or participation in, those rumors and speculation creates any kind of obligation on the part of the band or anyone else to address them. We all need to remind ourselves sometimes that this is an echo chamber full of lunatics, and that outside in the real world there’s nothing strange at all about a band not making a tour announcement until there’s a tour to announce.

Agree with you 100% there. Hopefully this QC radio snippet is true and we get something soon though. Us loonies are getting restless lol. 

D-Rod

Did anybody catch game 7 last night?  We’re moving on to Winnipeg baby.  

mfc2006

Some of these posts are ridiculous.

estarr31

Jadler said:

Everyone is back on the board complaining and speculating about future tour dates & the status of the band’s psyche. Nature is healing!

JimmyV

mfc2006 said:

Some of these posts are ridiculous.

Same as it ever was. 

mfc2006

JimmyV said:

mfc2006 said:

Some of these posts are ridiculous.

Same as it ever was. 

very true.

jimjam1982

Is it really that ridiculous?  There is a thread of over 30 pages of irrational comments over a $20 single vinyl.  Seems reasonable to want an update on thousands of dollars.

mfc2006

jimjam1982 said:

Is it really that ridiculous?  There is a thread of over 30 pages of irrational comments over a $20 single vinyl.  Seems reasonable to want an update on thousands of dollars.

Some of the comments are ridiculous in my opinion, yes.

RiotAct41

RatherStarved said:

They’re not fucking anyone over with no updates.  It’s all but certain they are set to announce March 2022.  Does it really matter if it takes a few more days to confirm? We all have tickets already, at least whoever was able to get before and decided to keep.  I’d like the answer as well but I don’t think they’re F’ing with us.  

I gathered speed, from Pearl Jam F’ing with me

josevolution

Of all things to worry about the last on my list is when I’ll see the band again! 

PJNB

josevolution said:

Of all things to worry about the last on my list is when I’ll see the band again! 

The last? Thought you were a Pearl Jam fan!

I get it though some people don't need to go back anytime soon while others are itching to get back.

PJNB

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-57224635#:~:text=Prime Minister Scott Morrison - who,open borders until mid-2022.

I think the plan is changing now from what they originally thought they were going to do a couple of months ago. Rumours were Australia was going to be the first tour back. Now with poorer than desired vaccination rates it almost looks like borders will not open up until after another summer of tourism in Australia is missed. Can Pearl Jam do a tour in Australia with no travellers coming in? Maybe but I bet they push it another year. 

It looks like after the QC radio interview yesterday that we will get one of three things. 

Fall US shed tour to coincide with the two fests (not very likely but still a chance)

A US arena tour this Oct/Nov/Dec with reschedules as well as new cities from the second leg and beyond. 

A US/Canada tour next February/March/April with either both legs mixed in or split up before and after the Euro tour like 2020 had planned.