What is the going rate for Benaroya Hall vinyl?

mookeywrench

pjl44 said:

mcgruff10 said:

Unless you have two copies what is the purpose/reason of keeping a record sealed?

1. No record player yet and gathering up vinyl is aspirational (that was me for a while)

2. Collecting vinyl as an investment (that's me with other stuff)

3. Wanting to have a physical copy of select albums but can't listen to everything due to volume and time constraints (this is me now - I'd say about 1 of every 10 albums I've bought over the last couple years is still sealed)

No one seems to question this when it comes to guitars or jerseys. It works under the same concept.

pjl44

mookeywrench said:

pjl44 said:

mcgruff10 said:

Unless you have two copies what is the purpose/reason of keeping a record sealed?

1. No record player yet and gathering up vinyl is aspirational (that was me for a while)

2. Collecting vinyl as an investment (that's me with other stuff)

3. Wanting to have a physical copy of select albums but can't listen to everything due to volume and time constraints (this is me now - I'd say about 1 of every 10 albums I've bought over the last couple years is still sealed)

No one seems to question this when it comes to guitars or jerseys. It works under the same concept.

The tambourine you caught is meant to be played!

darthvedder

tdawe said:

mace1229 said:

tdawe said:

Yeah I think it’s in the $2K range, unless it’s autographed by the band and sold by Matt Cameron’s son in which case it’ll cost $1,200. Don’t ask me how the economy works. 

Wait, what? When did this happen?

Fairly recently? I’d love to tell you exactly when but time stopped moving last March. The lucky guy made a whole YouTube video about it which I can’t find at the moment but I’m sure someone else can. 

https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/287028/as-a-pj-fanatic-this-was-the-craziest-vinyl-find-story-of-my-lifetime-im-still-in-shock

cp3iverson

My orange copy was $49 i think in November.  

I know.  I know. 

CB6978

darthvedder said:

tdawe said:

mace1229 said:

tdawe said:

Yeah I think it’s in the $2K range, unless it’s autographed by the band and sold by Matt Cameron’s son in which case it’ll cost $1,200. Don’t ask me how the economy works. 

Wait, what? When did this happen?

Fairly recently? I’d love to tell you exactly when but time stopped moving last March. The lucky guy made a whole YouTube video about it which I can’t find at the moment but I’m sure someone else can. 

https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/287028/as-a-pj-fanatic-this-was-the-craziest-vinyl-find-story-of-my-lifetime-im-still-in-shock

RVM vinyl goes for $400?  Wow. 

mcgruff10

mookeywrench said:

pjl44 said:

mcgruff10 said:

Unless you have two copies what is the purpose/reason of keeping a record sealed?

1. No record player yet and gathering up vinyl is aspirational (that was me for a while)

2. Collecting vinyl as an investment (that's me with other stuff)

3. Wanting to have a physical copy of select albums but can't listen to everything due to volume and time constraints (this is me now - I'd say about 1 of every 10 albums I've bought over the last couple years is still sealed)

No one seems to question this when it comes to guitars or jerseys. It works under the same concept.

Personally I think it is different.  Unless the guitar or vinyl cover has an autograph on it I would spin/play it.  

texasistheSTEVEN

if you keep a record sealed for years on end then there is a real chance that it may not be playable. The plastic on records isn't meant to stay on for years and years and with seasonal changes in the weather that plastic can expand and constrict and possibly warp the vinyl. 

Sealed record pricing is actually a really bad price marker as that record may not be playable when it is finally opened.

2-feign-reluctance

texasistheSTEVEN said:

if you keep a record sealed for years on end then there is a real chance that it may not be playable. The plastic on records isn't meant to stay on for years and years and with seasonal changes in the weather that plastic can expand and constrict and possibly warp the vinyl. 

Sealed record pricing is actually a really bad price marker as that record may not be playable when it is finally opened.

Truth. 

PB11041

It is insane the amount of money people are willing to pay for PJ on vinyl.  Most of their records are pretty crappily produced for vinyl.  OG Ten and Vs presssings are definitely worth getting.  I think I have heard good things about Vitalogy too, but I don't own that OG and have not listened to it in over 25 years on the original Vinyl.

Don't get me wrong, I have all their records on vinyl and enjoy playing the records, but soncially, their studio records especially, most don't cut it on vinyl as they are compressed and not optimized.  

Benaroya sounds nice on vinyl, but I would never pay more than a couple of hundred for it.  

Scarcity is an odd duck.

cp3iverson

PJ definitely has no audiophile releases.  Original US Ten is terrific and is comparable or better to the initial CD but yeah its the rarity/cool factor that makes things like Benny so sought after.  The cool factor/memorable show factor plays a huge part with Benaroya.  I have a PJ record where only 10 exist and i doubt its worth a Benny.   Its a mix of things.  Theyre all different. 

We have ridiculously expensive hobbies

pjl44

texasistheSTEVEN said:

if you keep a record sealed for years on end then there is a real chance that it may not be playable. The plastic on records isn't meant to stay on for years and years and with seasonal changes in the weather that plastic can expand and constrict and possibly warp the vinyl. 

Sealed record pricing is actually a really bad price marker as that record may not be playable when it is finally opened.

There's no consensus on this. Has way more to do with the conditions a record was stored in than sealed or open.

pjl44

Point being if the records are being stored in such extreme conditions that changes to the shrink wrap are warping the record, the shrink wrap ain't the main problem. Your open records will have issues, too.

2-feign-reluctance

OG Vitalogy way better than the repressing. 

mace1229

mookeywrench said:

pjl44 said:

mcgruff10 said:

Unless you have two copies what is the purpose/reason of keeping a record sealed?

1. No record player yet and gathering up vinyl is aspirational (that was me for a while)

2. Collecting vinyl as an investment (that's me with other stuff)

3. Wanting to have a physical copy of select albums but can't listen to everything due to volume and time constraints (this is me now - I'd say about 1 of every 10 albums I've bought over the last couple years is still sealed)

No one seems to question this when it comes to guitars or jerseys. It works under the same concept.

I agree. People keep zippos and hoodies and everything else, but give people crap for not spinning the vinyl. I'm in the camp where i use almost everything PJ I collect. I keep my 2 Zippos filled , I just don't carry it on my pocket. But that's me. You want to hang vinyl on a shelf as a collector, fine.  
But I probably wouldn't play a Benny if I had one. I'd just be too nervous there'd be an earthquake and ruin it or something, and I wouldn't be able to enjoy it. I had Boston's Don't Look Back that I paid like $6 for and I dropped it taking it off the record player and it shattered, I was pissed for like 2 hours over 6 bucks. Mathematically I'd be pissed for 667 hours if I broke a Benny. Not worth the risk when there's a good CD.

lexicondevil

mcgruff10 said:

Unless you have two copies what is the purpose/reason of keeping a record sealed?

So much this.

Zod

texasistheSTEVEN said:

if you keep a record sealed for years on end then there is a real chance that it may not be playable. The plastic on records isn't meant to stay on for years and years and with seasonal changes in the weather that plastic can expand and constrict and possibly warp the vinyl. 

Sealed record pricing is actually a really bad price marker as that record may not be playable when it is finally opened.

True, but benaroya is in a box, so it's probably resistant to the shrink wrap shrinking.

NewJPage

CB6978 said:

NewJPage said:

Make me an offer

Are you buying or selling?

Well not really planning on it but potentially Selling 

tempo_n_groove

demetrios said:

https://www.discogs.com/Pearl-Jam-Oct-22-2003-Benaroya-Hall/release/1079795

• Lowest:

  CA$1,152.00

• Median:

  CA$1,539.08

• Highest:

  CA$4,479.99

I sold my sealed Benny for $2000.00 US a few months ago.

Crew

mace1229 said:

I agree. People keep zippos and hoodies and everything else, but give people crap for not spinning the vinyl. 

I mean, there's obviously a big difference between Zippos, hoodies, and records.  Zippos are collectible in and of themselves, whether you use them as a lighter or not.  A hoodie can be worn, or not - it has no other function.

Records, on the other hand, are not just pretty packaging - they're a medium to bring a (in this case, live) performance into your home.  Keeping it wrapped up doesn't do the music justice, and prevents someone else from experiencing that show - there are plenty of people who would happily spin them.

Cars are meant to be driven, whisky is meant to be drank, and records are meant to be spun.  I literally cannot wrap my head around the idea of buying any of those things and NOT enjoying them personally.  You're literally just keeping them warm for the next guy.  

I sincerely hope there's a re-issue, so that all the hoarding and holding out was for nothing.  

zdogbone

cp3iverson said:

My orange copy was $49 i think in November.  

I know.  I know. 

How's it sound? I was thinking of snagging one but it looked too bootleggy