What is the going rate for Benaroya Hall vinyl?

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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,873
    Didn't see any for sale this weekend. Did pick up a colored vinyl copy of Neil Young's Mirrorball today.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,595
    So wait? There's a bootleg of this now? Took them long enough...
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • JBob87
    JBob87 Posts: 485
    edited February 2021
    I just don't understand buying a bootleg of this at all. You are at best if the pressing was done 100% perfectly getting the widely available CD audio, with the added benefit of now having to get up off the couch more frequently to flip the disks over. Oh and you are also supporting bootleggers profiting without giving a cut to the band. Just a very "peak vinyl" thing to see these boots going for $$. 
  • NewJPage
    NewJPage Posts: 3,320
    JBob87 said:
    I just don't understand buying a bootleg of this at all. You are at best if the pressing was done 100% perfectly getting the widely available CD audio, with the added benefit of now having to get up off the couch more frequently to flip the disks over. Oh and you are also supporting bootleggers profiting without giving a cut to the band. Just a very "peak vinyl" thing to see these boots going for $$. 
    Plus it's getting rereleased soon
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
  • Jimmydean55
    Jimmydean55 Posts: 1,572
    NewJPage said:

    Plus it's getting rereleased soon
    Wait, what?
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    Jimmydean55 said:
    NewJPage said:

    Plus it's getting rereleased soon
    Wait, what?
    Recently, these vinyl boots have been leading indicators official (re-)releases. 

    Hope springs eternal. 

    Even from those nasty bootleggers. 
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • NewJPage
    NewJPage Posts: 3,320
    Jimmydean55 said:
    NewJPage said:

    Plus it's getting rereleased soon
    Wait, what?
    Neil said its coming as part of his series of rereleases I think next year
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 11,862
    ^mirrorball yes. Benny we don't know yet.
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,873
    Loujoe said:
    ^mirrorball yes. Benny we don't know yet.

    If they ever do officially reissue Benny, they should totally have a 24 hour pre sale @ the 10club store. Or yet release it on a RSD. 
  • NewJPage
    NewJPage Posts: 3,320
    Loujoe said:
    ^mirrorball yes. Benny we don't know yet.
    Lol maybe some miscommunication there sorry!
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 11,862
    ^^^It's all good news^^^ to the people that don't have an og to spin. Mirrorball or other stuff.
  • Jimmydean55
    Jimmydean55 Posts: 1,572
    NewJPage said:
    Loujoe said:
    ^mirrorball yes. Benny we don't know yet.
    Lol maybe some miscommunication there sorry!
    That’s on me. Didn’t see you guys were talking about Mirrorball, lol. 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,927
    JBob87 said:
    I just don't understand buying a bootleg of this at all. You are at best if the pressing was done 100% perfectly getting the widely available CD audio, with the added benefit of now having to get up off the couch more frequently to flip the disks over. Oh and you are also supporting bootleggers profiting without giving a cut to the band. Just a very "peak vinyl" thing to see these boots going for $$. 
    I agree with the quality. But the not giving the band their cut seems like a non issue. How much of a cut are they getting when people sell their copy for $2000? Bands get zero on a secondary market, bootleg or not. If they wanted a cut, they’d release it.
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,916
    In addition to the sound quality, I like spinning vinyl.  I can completely replicate CD quality without using a CD.   But I can't replicate the experience of putting on a record.

    I've been pretty tempted to buy a bootleg of Tool's Aenima album.  Been waiting years for a re-release.  I've been tempted many times to buy a bootleg just so I can spin it.
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,873
    Zod said:

    I've been pretty tempted to buy a bootleg of Tool's Aenima album.  Been waiting years for a re-release.  I've been tempted many times to buy a bootleg just so I can spin it.

    Saw that Aenima bootleg vinyl too in stores. Tempted but passed.
  • Robbert
    Robbert Rotterdam, the Netherlands Posts: 1,061
    edited March 2021
    Can someone tell me what the story is behind the orange Benaroya Hall vinyl? Is it unofficial? Because there is a TenClub 2004 sign on the back. Was it a European sell?

    The sound is pretty damn good by the way :)
    Post edited by Robbert on
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,595
    mace1229 said:
    JBob87 said:
    I just don't understand buying a bootleg of this at all. You are at best if the pressing was done 100% perfectly getting the widely available CD audio, with the added benefit of now having to get up off the couch more frequently to flip the disks over. Oh and you are also supporting bootleggers profiting without giving a cut to the band. Just a very "peak vinyl" thing to see these boots going for $$. 
    I agree with the quality. But the not giving the band their cut seems like a non issue. How much of a cut are they getting when people sell their copy for $2000? Bands get zero on a secondary market, bootleg or not. If they wanted a cut, they’d release it.
    They could do like some Video Game companies, and try to activly kill the second hand market because of making no profits. Hehe. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,595
    edited March 2021
    Jimmydean55 said:
    NewJPage said:
    Loujoe said:
    ^mirrorball yes. Benny we don't know yet.
    Lol maybe some miscommunication there sorry!
    That’s on me. Didn’t see you guys were talking about Mirrorball, lol. 
    Heh. I was asking about Benaroya with my initial comment. Bevause DImtrious wrote something to the effect of "didn't find it in the store but I did find a bootleg mirrorball" signaling that a bootleg Benaroya was what he was refering to.

    I am just surprised it hasn't popped up before, with what they are going for. Why bootleg "Binaural" instead of bootleging Benaroya etc.

    Would like to see a Netflix documentary on conterfeit albums. How is that industry working. Who decided what should be bootlegd, how do they make it, how do they get it out to stores etc. Full on bootlegs, but also thoise grey area radio broadcasts that swarm our record stores over here.

    Just read something about KISS' Sonic Boom album which is expensive as hell on vinyl. And seems like two different bootlegs exist - one in gatefold and one without gatefold. Is that then competing conterfiet companies' versions? Does the one making gaatefold version have more of a love for their craft and the album than the other one? 

    Give me the Netflix doc on this!
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    JBob87 said:
    I just don't understand buying a bootleg of this at all. You are at best if the pressing was done 100% perfectly getting the widely available CD audio, with the added benefit of now having to get up off the couch more frequently to flip the disks over. Oh and you are also supporting bootleggers profiting without giving a cut to the band. Just a very "peak vinyl" thing to see these boots going for $$. 
    Not to mention that you have no idea what criminal/terrorist organization may be profiting from the counterfeit of any officially licensed merchandise.  
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,595
    edited March 2021
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    JBob87 said:
    I just don't understand buying a bootleg of this at all. You are at best if the pressing was done 100% perfectly getting the widely available CD audio, with the added benefit of now having to get up off the couch more frequently to flip the disks over. Oh and you are also supporting bootleggers profiting without giving a cut to the band. Just a very "peak vinyl" thing to see these boots going for $$. 
    Not to mention that you have no idea what criminal/terrorist organization may be profiting from the counterfeit of any officially licensed merchandise.  
    Two joke answers to this, presented here in a bullet point list:

    ANSWER 1:
    • "Ticketmaster?"

    ANSWER 2:
    • "More or less than what China is profiting of all Apple products people buy?"

    Also, is there any source that it is a revenue income to "terrorist organizations" ? That sould make the Netflix doc even more interesting.

    The whole counterfiet-thing is crazy.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"

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