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mrussel1 said:
What do you mean "rolled out"? Are you saying they ahve zero experience in developing vaccines? Were they making tennis shoes in 2019? Or is this a word play that they have provided research and technology services to other distributors and partnerships?gvn2fly1421 said:
Just spitballing here, but more sick people, more medicine to produce... I don't know...HughFreakingDillon said:
the government isn't doing the research and developing the vaccine, no matter what the Orange Turd tries to tell people. the government is buying it. it's scientists developing it.gvn2fly1421 said:
No issues I presume? We have a pharmacist friend who did not give it to her three daughters. To each their own I know, but my wife is scared that since cancer can be hereditary there is chance it will affect her later on.mrussel1 said:
Both my daughters had it. Why has this year made you skeptical of vaccines? Are you also skeptical of oral contraceptives now that you've learned women have strokes after taking them?gvn2fly1421 said:Let me also add, both of my kids are fully vaxxed. Not to turn the Biden thread into a vax thread, but...
Let me ask this to the group and see if anyone has had any experience with this... My wife and I are struggling with the HPV vaccine for my 11 year old daughter. My mother in law died about 10 years ago of cervical cancer so it is very sensitive for her. Has anyone had experience with it? This past year has certainly made us skeptical (obviously, right?).
Honestly, in the past I was so ignorant to things, which I know most will say I still am, I never really knew what was going on. You need to do this... OK. You need to do that.... OK. I now trust no government, republican or democrat leadership, anymore. How can you after this past year?
what advantage do the pharmaceutical companies have to gain from producing a vaccine that will hurt those who take it?
you really have to think about the motivations for things before coming to conclusions. pharma has no motivation for rolling out a vaccine that will make people sick/die, that will cause their stock to crash and end their livelihoods.
Did you know that the makers of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccine have NEVER rolled out a single product. Ever. That's a little scary, right?
if I had to guess it relates to mRNA vaccines
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Thanks!mrussel1 said:
No issues. My niece is a pharm-d as is her husband and they are strong advocates for vaccines, including the HPV.gvn2fly1421 said:
No issues I presume? We have a pharmacist friend who did not give it to her three daughters. To each their own I know, but my wife is scared that since cancer can be hereditary there is chance it will affect her later on.mrussel1 said:
Both my daughters had it. Why has this year made you skeptical of vaccines? Are you also skeptical of oral contraceptives now that you've learned women have strokes after taking them?gvn2fly1421 said:Let me also add, both of my kids are fully vaxxed. Not to turn the Biden thread into a vax thread, but...
Let me ask this to the group and see if anyone has had any experience with this... My wife and I are struggling with the HPV vaccine for my 11 year old daughter. My mother in law died about 10 years ago of cervical cancer so it is very sensitive for her. Has anyone had experience with it? This past year has certainly made us skeptical (obviously, right?).
Honestly, in the past I was so ignorant to things, which I know most will say I still am, I never really knew what was going on. You need to do this... OK. You need to do that.... OK. I now trust no government, republican or democrat leadership, anymore. How can you after this past year?0 -
It appears you are splitting hairs. Are you worried that their marketing and sales departments are ineffective?gvn2fly1421 said:
BioNTech and Moderna, the two biggest vaccine developers in the West. How many products have they put on the market?mrussel1 said:
What do you mean "rolled out"? Are you saying they ahve zero experience in developing vaccines? Were they making tennis shoes in 2019? Or is this a word play that they have provided research and technology services to other distributors and partnerships?gvn2fly1421 said:
Just spitballing here, but more sick people, more medicine to produce... I don't know...HughFreakingDillon said:
the government isn't doing the research and developing the vaccine, no matter what the Orange Turd tries to tell people. the government is buying it. it's scientists developing it.gvn2fly1421 said:
No issues I presume? We have a pharmacist friend who did not give it to her three daughters. To each their own I know, but my wife is scared that since cancer can be hereditary there is chance it will affect her later on.mrussel1 said:
Both my daughters had it. Why has this year made you skeptical of vaccines? Are you also skeptical of oral contraceptives now that you've learned women have strokes after taking them?gvn2fly1421 said:Let me also add, both of my kids are fully vaxxed. Not to turn the Biden thread into a vax thread, but...
Let me ask this to the group and see if anyone has had any experience with this... My wife and I are struggling with the HPV vaccine for my 11 year old daughter. My mother in law died about 10 years ago of cervical cancer so it is very sensitive for her. Has anyone had experience with it? This past year has certainly made us skeptical (obviously, right?).
Honestly, in the past I was so ignorant to things, which I know most will say I still am, I never really knew what was going on. You need to do this... OK. You need to do that.... OK. I now trust no government, republican or democrat leadership, anymore. How can you after this past year?
what advantage do the pharmaceutical companies have to gain from producing a vaccine that will hurt those who take it?
you really have to think about the motivations for things before coming to conclusions. pharma has no motivation for rolling out a vaccine that will make people sick/die, that will cause their stock to crash and end their livelihoods.
Did you know that the makers of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccine have NEVER rolled out a single product. Ever. That's a little scary, right?0 -
From the article:Ledbetterman10 said:
I agree that the television ratings are dumb barometer. But that approval rating isn't all that great. It's higher than Trump's after 100 days. But Trump's the worst president ever. According to this Newsweek article, only Ford after pardoning Nixon and Trump after....being Trump, had lower approval ratings at this point.Hobbes said:
Joe Biden Approval Rating Beats Only Donald Trump and Gerald Ford's 100-Day Score: Poll (newsweek.com)- Biden's pandemic relief package won 65 percent approval
- His handling of the pandemic won 64 percent approval
- Proposal to raise corporate taxes won 58 percent approval
- His $2 trillion infrastructure package won 52 percent approval
- And Biden also won 52 percent approval on his handling of the economy
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Because when you're a failure, you stick around for 11 years and develop partnerships and attract Wall Street capital. And that "rushed" vaccine? 6 years in the making and two decades plus of research behind it. But yea, it was rushed. And we're all just lemmings to President Biden's senility. Is it really this hard?
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Well...it's comparable to W and Clinton though. And with how steady he is in the 53-54% range, I'd be willing to bet that he'll be right about where everyone else was since Nixon with the exception of both Bushes at the end of his first year.Ledbetterman10 said:
I agree that the television ratings are dumb barometer. But that approval rating isn't all that great. It's higher than Trump's after 100 days. But Trump's the worst president ever. According to this Newsweek article, only Ford after pardoning Nixon and Trump after....being Trump, had lower approval ratings at this point.Hobbes said:
Joe Biden Approval Rating Beats Only Donald Trump and Gerald Ford's 100-Day Score: Poll (newsweek.com)
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo
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The reason the Yankees draw better national TV audiences than anyone else isn't because everyone loves them. It's because a lot of people hate them and they're polarizing. More interesting? Sure. More loved? No.Hobbes said:
81M votes.gvn2fly1421 said:Most popular President ever!!!!!!!1
54% approval rating.
Numbers that matter.
Pathetic.
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I thnk there are many people that are just happy they don't need to think about the president every day, since he's not all up in our grill. It's quite refreshing. I've been a supporter of Biden for many years, well before he was the VP. I've done a lot of business in DE for a long time. But I had no interest in watching the speech the other night. I'm comfortable knowing he's going to be an adult and speak to well thought out policies, most of which I already understand since I consume a heavy amount of written news and literally watch zero television news.OnWis97 said:
The reason the Yankees draw better national TV audiences than anyone else isn't because everyone loves them. It's because a lot of people hate them and they're polarizing. More interesting? Sure. More loved? No.Hobbes said:
81M votes.gvn2fly1421 said:Most popular President ever!!!!!!!1
54% approval rating.
Numbers that matter.
Pathetic.0 -
I can't tell whether this post is more selfish or stupid.gvn2fly1421 said:
OK, so remind me again what the purpose of the vaccine is?Merkin Baller said:
I like how people willfully ignore the fact that vaccinated people can still contract & transmit the virus to non-vaccinated people, while simultaneously screaming about science as if there's a point being made.
Can still get the virus - Check
Can still transmit the virus - Check
Still have to wear a mask - Check
Booster shot needed to assure that I can still get and transmit the virus - Check
Oh, I will not have severe symptoms? Again, there is a good chance you will not get severe (or any) symptoms from the virus itself.
What if I get the vaccine, then get the virus and HAVE severe symptoms?
The resident troll who admits to a past of not thinking critically, posts Tweets from Alex Berenson - crowned by the Atlantic as the Pandemic's Wrongest Man - which themselves refer to an anonymous radiologist (themselves not qualified to establish a causal relationship between these factors), who witnesses some additional tests being done on deceased individuals who just recently were vaccinated, and therefore you have serious doubts of the efficacy of the vaccine, and suggest we do too. You must be higher than me.
1. The odds of contracting CoVID are minimum 80% less after a vaccine, compared to without
2. The ability to transmit once vaccinated is not yet known, hence the masks
3. See above.
4. What a stupid way to phrase your BS. You aren't "assuring you can get and transmit" the disease by getting a booster - you're mitigating the risk of doing either.
A year and a half into a pandemic, people are still thinking of this as not such a big deal. Maybe stupidity is the pandemic that'll produce our mass extinction after all.
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54% approval rating, adjusted for pre-MAGA period, is more like 80%.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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For the bold, does it really have to be a competition, Ben? Can't it be equally both?benjs said:
I can't tell whether this post is more selfish or stupid.gvn2fly1421 said:
OK, so remind me again what the purpose of the vaccine is?Merkin Baller said:
I like how people willfully ignore the fact that vaccinated people can still contract & transmit the virus to non-vaccinated people, while simultaneously screaming about science as if there's a point being made.
Can still get the virus - Check
Can still transmit the virus - Check
Still have to wear a mask - Check
Booster shot needed to assure that I can still get and transmit the virus - Check
Oh, I will not have severe symptoms? Again, there is a good chance you will not get severe (or any) symptoms from the virus itself.
What if I get the vaccine, then get the virus and HAVE severe symptoms?
The resident troll who admits to a past of not thinking critically, posts Tweets from Alex Berenson - crowned by the Atlantic as the Pandemic's Wrongest Man - which themselves refer to an anonymous radiologist (themselves not qualified to establish a causal relationship between these factors), who witnesses some additional tests being done on deceased individuals who just recently were vaccinated, and therefore you have serious doubts of the efficacy of the vaccine, and suggest we do too. You must be higher than me.
1. The odds of contracting CoVID are minimum 80% less after a vaccine, compared to without
2. The ability to transmit once vaccinated is not yet known, hence the masks
3. See above.
4. What a stupid way to phrase your BS. You aren't "assuring you can get and transmit" the disease by getting a booster - you're mitigating the risk of doing either.
A year and a half into a pandemic, people are still thinking of this as not such a big deal. Maybe stupidity is the pandemic that'll produce our mass extinction after all.0 -
I would add pathetic into the equation as well.benjs said:
I can't tell whether this post is more selfish or stupid.gvn2fly1421 said:
OK, so remind me again what the purpose of the vaccine is?Merkin Baller said:
I like how people willfully ignore the fact that vaccinated people can still contract & transmit the virus to non-vaccinated people, while simultaneously screaming about science as if there's a point being made.
Can still get the virus - Check
Can still transmit the virus - Check
Still have to wear a mask - Check
Booster shot needed to assure that I can still get and transmit the virus - Check
Oh, I will not have severe symptoms? Again, there is a good chance you will not get severe (or any) symptoms from the virus itself.
What if I get the vaccine, then get the virus and HAVE severe symptoms?
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Equation? Slow your roll, Pythagoras. Math is hard.Merkin Baller said:
I would add pathetic into the equation as well.benjs said:
I can't tell whether this post is more selfish or stupid.gvn2fly1421 said:
OK, so remind me again what the purpose of the vaccine is?Merkin Baller said:
I like how people willfully ignore the fact that vaccinated people can still contract & transmit the virus to non-vaccinated people, while simultaneously screaming about science as if there's a point being made.
Can still get the virus - Check
Can still transmit the virus - Check
Still have to wear a mask - Check
Booster shot needed to assure that I can still get and transmit the virus - Check
Oh, I will not have severe symptoms? Again, there is a good chance you will not get severe (or any) symptoms from the virus itself.
What if I get the vaccine, then get the virus and HAVE severe symptoms?0 -
Haha.. that reminds me of Shaq when he said something like..Hobbes said:
Equation? Slow your roll, Pythagoras. Math is hard.Merkin Baller said:
I would add pathetic into the equation as well.benjs said:
I can't tell whether this post is more selfish or stupid.gvn2fly1421 said:
OK, so remind me again what the purpose of the vaccine is?Merkin Baller said:
I like how people willfully ignore the fact that vaccinated people can still contract & transmit the virus to non-vaccinated people, while simultaneously screaming about science as if there's a point being made.
Can still get the virus - Check
Can still transmit the virus - Check
Still have to wear a mask - Check
Booster shot needed to assure that I can still get and transmit the virus - Check
Oh, I will not have severe symptoms? Again, there is a good chance you will not get severe (or any) symptoms from the virus itself.
What if I get the vaccine, then get the virus and HAVE severe symptoms?
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Loves animals, sincere smile, messy shelves, imperfect house plant. A real human as president. Awesome!
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Agreed!brianlux said:Loves animals, sincere smile, messy shelves, imperfect house plant. A real human as president. Awesome!jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
brianlux said:Loves animals, sincere smile, messy shelves, imperfect house plant. A real human as president. Awesome!79 yo and the dude can get down on the floor. Impressive.0
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Ummm not really. It’s the getting up part.Lerxst1992 said:brianlux said:Loves animals, sincere smile, messy shelves, imperfect house plant. A real human as president. Awesome!79 yo and the dude can get down on the floor. Impressive.
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And look like he’s in an opium den or just put the bong out of range, like hiding from his kids or something.Lerxst1992 said:brianlux said:Loves animals, sincere smile, messy shelves, imperfect house plant. A real human as president. Awesome!79 yo and the dude can get down on the floor. Impressive.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Haha! That was my first thought. I'm just shy of 70 and find that difficult some days.Lerxst1992 said:brianlux said:Loves animals, sincere smile, messy shelves, imperfect house plant. A real human as president. Awesome!79 yo and the dude can get down on the floor. Impressive.cincybearcat said:
Ummm not really. It’s the getting up part.Lerxst1992 said:brianlux said:Loves animals, sincere smile, messy shelves, imperfect house plant. A real human as president. Awesome!79 yo and the dude can get down on the floor. Impressive.Haha x 2! I really find that difficult some days!(And for you jokers, we are talking about getting up off the floor, got it?!)
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