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  • I forget if it was in this thread or the Covid one but there were folks complaining that we needed to end these benefits to get lazy workers back to work. Looks like they've moved on to better opportunities. Good for them


    https://www.axios.com/covid-unemployment-benefits-labor-job-growth-states-9d8dd899-49e6-4cb4-96fe-e658cefee424.html

    States that ended COVID unemployment benefits see no boost in job growth

    Photo of a white banner that says Now Hiring draped over the top of a restaurant

    Photo: Olivier Douliery/AFP via Getty Images

    States that ended federal unemployment benefits earlier this summer saw August job growth at less than half the rate of states that retained the benefits, according to new data released Friday by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

    Why it matters: Leaders in the largely Republican-led states had insisted that the benefits were discouraging people from work, and ended the assistance program early ahead of its planned expiration on Sept. 6.

    • The benefits, which came in the form of weekly $300 payments, had been in place since spring last year to help families through the pandemic.
    • A growing group of states began ending the benefits in June in what they called an effort to incentivize people to return to the workforce.

    What they're saying: "Economists analyzing the unemployment issue have seen little evidence yet that cutting off the benefits has provided a clear boost to local labor markets, in part because of difficulties separating the influence of the payments from larger shifts in the labor force, or of the potentially offsetting damage done by the pandemic," Reuters writes.

    Worth noting: When jobs are hard to fill, a broader worker awakening over the past year is part of the reason, Axios' Hope King writes.

    So if losing free $ didn't make people get a job...then they were given too much $ to begin with.
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,322
    I forget if it was in this thread or the Covid one but there were folks complaining that we needed to end these benefits to get lazy workers back to work. Looks like they've moved on to better opportunities. Good for them


    https://www.axios.com/covid-unemployment-benefits-labor-job-growth-states-9d8dd899-49e6-4cb4-96fe-e658cefee424.html

    States that ended COVID unemployment benefits see no boost in job growth

    Photo of a white banner that says Now Hiring draped over the top of a restaurant

    Photo: Olivier Douliery/AFP via Getty Images

    States that ended federal unemployment benefits earlier this summer saw August job growth at less than half the rate of states that retained the benefits, according to new data released Friday by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

    Why it matters: Leaders in the largely Republican-led states had insisted that the benefits were discouraging people from work, and ended the assistance program early ahead of its planned expiration on Sept. 6.

    • The benefits, which came in the form of weekly $300 payments, had been in place since spring last year to help families through the pandemic.
    • A growing group of states began ending the benefits in June in what they called an effort to incentivize people to return to the workforce.

    What they're saying: "Economists analyzing the unemployment issue have seen little evidence yet that cutting off the benefits has provided a clear boost to local labor markets, in part because of difficulties separating the influence of the payments from larger shifts in the labor force, or of the potentially offsetting damage done by the pandemic," Reuters writes.

    Worth noting: When jobs are hard to fill, a broader worker awakening over the past year is part of the reason, Axios' Hope King writes.

    So if losing free $ didn't make people get a job...then they were given too much $ to begin with.
    I’ve had my help wanted sign up all summer. Zero people came in, that never happened before.  I’ve hired 3 people since the second week of September. It’s no coincidence. In my immediate area, losing benefits has directly helped businesses find workers. 
  • nicknyr15 said:
    I forget if it was in this thread or the Covid one but there were folks complaining that we needed to end these benefits to get lazy workers back to work. Looks like they've moved on to better opportunities. Good for them


    https://www.axios.com/covid-unemployment-benefits-labor-job-growth-states-9d8dd899-49e6-4cb4-96fe-e658cefee424.html

    States that ended COVID unemployment benefits see no boost in job growth

    Photo of a white banner that says Now Hiring draped over the top of a restaurant

    Photo: Olivier Douliery/AFP via Getty Images

    States that ended federal unemployment benefits earlier this summer saw August job growth at less than half the rate of states that retained the benefits, according to new data released Friday by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

    Why it matters: Leaders in the largely Republican-led states had insisted that the benefits were discouraging people from work, and ended the assistance program early ahead of its planned expiration on Sept. 6.

    • The benefits, which came in the form of weekly $300 payments, had been in place since spring last year to help families through the pandemic.
    • A growing group of states began ending the benefits in June in what they called an effort to incentivize people to return to the workforce.

    What they're saying: "Economists analyzing the unemployment issue have seen little evidence yet that cutting off the benefits has provided a clear boost to local labor markets, in part because of difficulties separating the influence of the payments from larger shifts in the labor force, or of the potentially offsetting damage done by the pandemic," Reuters writes.

    Worth noting: When jobs are hard to fill, a broader worker awakening over the past year is part of the reason, Axios' Hope King writes.

    So if losing free $ didn't make people get a job...then they were given too much $ to begin with.
    I’ve had my help wanted sign up all summer. Zero people came in, that never happened before.  I’ve hired 3 people since the second week of September. It’s no coincidence. In my immediate area, losing benefits has directly helped businesses find workers. 
    I would really like to understand what all the people who left the workforce are doing to live each day.  It seems very strange to me that there are so many opportunities available that cannot be filled.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,527
    edited September 2021
    nicknyr15 said:
    I forget if it was in this thread or the Covid one but there were folks complaining that we needed to end these benefits to get lazy workers back to work. Looks like they've moved on to better opportunities. Good for them


    https://www.axios.com/covid-unemployment-benefits-labor-job-growth-states-9d8dd899-49e6-4cb4-96fe-e658cefee424.html

    States that ended COVID unemployment benefits see no boost in job growth

    Photo of a white banner that says Now Hiring draped over the top of a restaurant

    Photo: Olivier Douliery/AFP via Getty Images

    States that ended federal unemployment benefits earlier this summer saw August job growth at less than half the rate of states that retained the benefits, according to new data released Friday by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

    Why it matters: Leaders in the largely Republican-led states had insisted that the benefits were discouraging people from work, and ended the assistance program early ahead of its planned expiration on Sept. 6.

    • The benefits, which came in the form of weekly $300 payments, had been in place since spring last year to help families through the pandemic.
    • A growing group of states began ending the benefits in June in what they called an effort to incentivize people to return to the workforce.

    What they're saying: "Economists analyzing the unemployment issue have seen little evidence yet that cutting off the benefits has provided a clear boost to local labor markets, in part because of difficulties separating the influence of the payments from larger shifts in the labor force, or of the potentially offsetting damage done by the pandemic," Reuters writes.

    Worth noting: When jobs are hard to fill, a broader worker awakening over the past year is part of the reason, Axios' Hope King writes.

    So if losing free $ didn't make people get a job...then they were given too much $ to begin with.
    I’ve had my help wanted sign up all summer. Zero people came in, that never happened before.  I’ve hired 3 people since the second week of September. It’s no coincidence. In my immediate area, losing benefits has directly helped businesses find workers. 
    I would really like to understand what all the people who left the workforce are doing to live each day.  It seems very strange to me that there are so many opportunities available that cannot be filled.
    A lot them transitioned to jobs with better pay / benefits. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,399
    edited September 2021
    funny that he is getting slammed for the ongoing pandemic, when all of trump's base and people in states with trumpy governors simply will not get the vaccine, will not socially distance or wear masks, or take any steps to protect themselves.

    but that is somehow biden's fault.
    Works both ways. I've seen models saying cases and deaths have now peaked. He'll get credit if things are quite better in a month or two. 
    Except the thought is that things are going to be worse, even in states with high vaccination rates and adherence to social distancing, mask usage, etc. If anyone thinks the pandemic is over, you're going to have a rude awakening. Crossed over 680K dead today and will probably hit a million by years end. 'Murica.
    https://www.axios.com/covid-pandemic-cases-deaths-us-fall-winter-f4d928aa-74d9-4da3-a755-2861ba0b260d.html

    Some experts see signs of hope as COVID cases fall

    DataNY Times Chart Kavya BeherajAxios
    Data: N.Y. Times; Chart: Kavya Beheraj/Axios

    New coronavirus cases are continuing to decline, and some experts are cautiously optimistic that the virus will continue to wane even into the fall and winter.

    The big picture: The next few months are highly uncertain, and some localized outbreaks are all but guaranteed. But the U.S. is at least moving in the right direction again.

    By the numbers: The U.S. is now averaging roughly 134,000 new cases per day — a 10% drop over the past two weeks.

    • The pace of new infections, relative to each state's population, is getting worse in 27 states and improving in 23. Tennessee has seen the biggest drop in new cases over the past two weeks, while Montana has seen the biggest spike.

    Yes, but: Deaths have increased by about 33% over the past two weeks, to an average of about 2,000 per day.

    • Deaths are a lagging indicator — the last number to go up when a new wave begins, and the last to go down when that wave is receding.

    What's next: The U.S. has seen brief moments of progress before. They've never lasted long. But some experts believe the pandemic may actually keep shrinking over the next several months.

    • The NIH is looking at models that suggest cases may be down to about 15,000 per day by November, STAT reports. Between vaccinations and people who have already been sick, the number of Americans with some immune protection from the virus is pretty high.
    • Vaccinations for kids will also help contain the virus. Children ages 5–11 could become eligible for vaccinations in the next several weeks, according to NIAID director Anthony Fauci.

    The other side: Localized outbreaks are always the way viruses spread. They might balloon into another nationwide surge, or they might stay contained.

    • Either way, those ups and downs will likely continue to pose a real threat to the unvaccinated, even if the country’s overall trajectory keeps heading in the right direction.
    • And another new variant could throw off that trajectory altogether.

    The bottom line: "I hope it's true, obviously, but I can't shake a little unease I have about what could be coming," Emory University biostatistics professor Natalie Dean told NPR.

    I hear you but I'm on the side of worse case because of the anti crowd. Plus, I keep hearing the concerns of the "experts." Mutations, large maskless crowds, flu season and cold weather approaching. I really hope that my pessimism is wrong. Time will tell.
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,589
    nicknyr15 said:
    43% approve and 53% disapprove according to that Gallup poll. Now, it's likely that The Juggler will post the 538 link that takes multiple polls into account, so I'll just do it for him. According to it, Biden is at 46.2% approve and 48.3% disapprove

    How Popular Is Joe Biden? | FiveThirtyEight

    And I'll tell ya what, he's going to keep dropping in approval if unchecked illegal immigration keeps up. There was about 15,000 under a bridge in Texas a few days ago. That's down to about 5,000 as of yesterday, but it's not like the other 10,000 were deported. Most are just being released into the U.S. 

    lol, told ya....

    nicknyr15 said:
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

    Folks....again, rather than cherry picking, please look at the average for a better overall picture. His numbers have been slowly inching up Since September 8th.



    You forgot the word "probably" as it relates to "most are being released into the US."
    Isn't Biden being slammed for releasing all those poor immigrants to Haiti now?
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,404
    tbergs said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    43% approve and 53% disapprove according to that Gallup poll. Now, it's likely that The Juggler will post the 538 link that takes multiple polls into account, so I'll just do it for him. According to it, Biden is at 46.2% approve and 48.3% disapprove

    How Popular Is Joe Biden? | FiveThirtyEight

    And I'll tell ya what, he's going to keep dropping in approval if unchecked illegal immigration keeps up. There was about 15,000 under a bridge in Texas a few days ago. That's down to about 5,000 as of yesterday, but it's not like the other 10,000 were deported. Most are just being released into the U.S. 

    lol, told ya....

    nicknyr15 said:
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

    Folks....again, rather than cherry picking, please look at the average for a better overall picture. His numbers have been slowly inching up Since September 8th.



    You forgot the word "probably" as it relates to "most are being released into the US."
    Isn't Biden being slammed for releasing all those poor immigrants to Haiti now?
    Slammed from teh left I believe.
  • tbergs said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    43% approve and 53% disapprove according to that Gallup poll. Now, it's likely that The Juggler will post the 538 link that takes multiple polls into account, so I'll just do it for him. According to it, Biden is at 46.2% approve and 48.3% disapprove

    How Popular Is Joe Biden? | FiveThirtyEight

    And I'll tell ya what, he's going to keep dropping in approval if unchecked illegal immigration keeps up. There was about 15,000 under a bridge in Texas a few days ago. That's down to about 5,000 as of yesterday, but it's not like the other 10,000 were deported. Most are just being released into the U.S. 

    lol, told ya....

    nicknyr15 said:
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

    Folks....again, rather than cherry picking, please look at the average for a better overall picture. His numbers have been slowly inching up Since September 8th.



    You forgot the word "probably" as it relates to "most are being released into the US."
    Isn't Biden being slammed for releasing all those poor immigrants to Haiti now?
    tbergs said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    43% approve and 53% disapprove according to that Gallup poll. Now, it's likely that The Juggler will post the 538 link that takes multiple polls into account, so I'll just do it for him. According to it, Biden is at 46.2% approve and 48.3% disapprove

    How Popular Is Joe Biden? | FiveThirtyEight

    And I'll tell ya what, he's going to keep dropping in approval if unchecked illegal immigration keeps up. There was about 15,000 under a bridge in Texas a few days ago. That's down to about 5,000 as of yesterday, but it's not like the other 10,000 were deported. Most are just being released into the U.S. 

    lol, told ya....

    nicknyr15 said:
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

    Folks....again, rather than cherry picking, please look at the average for a better overall picture. His numbers have been slowly inching up Since September 8th.



    You forgot the word "probably" as it relates to "most are being released into the US."
    Isn't Biden being slammed for releasing all those poor immigrants to Haiti now?
    He’s being slammed for everything “migrant” now. Deportations to Haiti, slammed. Allowed in to the US through established processes, slammed. Keep them under a bridge except when they need to go back to Mexico for supplies, slammed. Haiti as a failed state since Baby Doc but now turn it around in a couple of weeks so we can deport migrants to a happy country expectations and fail, slammed.

    Hey but I heard Abbot & Costello has miles of cars available to give away so they can drive themselves in to the interior and rape and pillage and sell drugs.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,404
    tbergs said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    43% approve and 53% disapprove according to that Gallup poll. Now, it's likely that The Juggler will post the 538 link that takes multiple polls into account, so I'll just do it for him. According to it, Biden is at 46.2% approve and 48.3% disapprove

    How Popular Is Joe Biden? | FiveThirtyEight

    And I'll tell ya what, he's going to keep dropping in approval if unchecked illegal immigration keeps up. There was about 15,000 under a bridge in Texas a few days ago. That's down to about 5,000 as of yesterday, but it's not like the other 10,000 were deported. Most are just being released into the U.S. 

    lol, told ya....

    nicknyr15 said:
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

    Folks....again, rather than cherry picking, please look at the average for a better overall picture. His numbers have been slowly inching up Since September 8th.



    You forgot the word "probably" as it relates to "most are being released into the US."
    Isn't Biden being slammed for releasing all those poor immigrants to Haiti now?
    tbergs said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    43% approve and 53% disapprove according to that Gallup poll. Now, it's likely that The Juggler will post the 538 link that takes multiple polls into account, so I'll just do it for him. According to it, Biden is at 46.2% approve and 48.3% disapprove

    How Popular Is Joe Biden? | FiveThirtyEight

    And I'll tell ya what, he's going to keep dropping in approval if unchecked illegal immigration keeps up. There was about 15,000 under a bridge in Texas a few days ago. That's down to about 5,000 as of yesterday, but it's not like the other 10,000 were deported. Most are just being released into the U.S. 

    lol, told ya....

    nicknyr15 said:
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

    Folks....again, rather than cherry picking, please look at the average for a better overall picture. His numbers have been slowly inching up Since September 8th.



    You forgot the word "probably" as it relates to "most are being released into the US."
    Isn't Biden being slammed for releasing all those poor immigrants to Haiti now?
    He’s being slammed for everything “migrant” now. Deportations to Haiti, slammed. Allowed in to the US through established processes, slammed. Keep them under a bridge except when they need to go back to Mexico for supplies, slammed. Haiti as a failed state since Baby Doc but now turn it around in a couple of weeks so we can deport migrants to a happy country expectations and fail, slammed.

    Hey but I heard Abbot & Costello has miles of cars available to give away so they can drive themselves in to the interior and rape and pillage and sell drugs.
    It's not an easy job and it isn't fair.  That's part of the game.  That's why everyone loses seats at midterms but still manages to win re-election (except Trump of course).  Mid terms means you are voting against the president.  When it comes to the election, you have to choose and then the president doesn't look so bad. 
  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,836
    mrussel1 said:
    tbergs said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    43% approve and 53% disapprove according to that Gallup poll. Now, it's likely that The Juggler will post the 538 link that takes multiple polls into account, so I'll just do it for him. According to it, Biden is at 46.2% approve and 48.3% disapprove

    How Popular Is Joe Biden? | FiveThirtyEight

    And I'll tell ya what, he's going to keep dropping in approval if unchecked illegal immigration keeps up. There was about 15,000 under a bridge in Texas a few days ago. That's down to about 5,000 as of yesterday, but it's not like the other 10,000 were deported. Most are just being released into the U.S. 

    lol, told ya....

    nicknyr15 said:
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

    Folks....again, rather than cherry picking, please look at the average for a better overall picture. His numbers have been slowly inching up Since September 8th.



    You forgot the word "probably" as it relates to "most are being released into the US."
    Isn't Biden being slammed for releasing all those poor immigrants to Haiti now?
    Slammed from teh left I believe.
    Career diplomat Daniel Foote is now "teh [sic] left," I suppose.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,404
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    tbergs said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    43% approve and 53% disapprove according to that Gallup poll. Now, it's likely that The Juggler will post the 538 link that takes multiple polls into account, so I'll just do it for him. According to it, Biden is at 46.2% approve and 48.3% disapprove

    How Popular Is Joe Biden? | FiveThirtyEight

    And I'll tell ya what, he's going to keep dropping in approval if unchecked illegal immigration keeps up. There was about 15,000 under a bridge in Texas a few days ago. That's down to about 5,000 as of yesterday, but it's not like the other 10,000 were deported. Most are just being released into the U.S. 

    lol, told ya....

    nicknyr15 said:
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

    Folks....again, rather than cherry picking, please look at the average for a better overall picture. His numbers have been slowly inching up Since September 8th.



    You forgot the word "probably" as it relates to "most are being released into the US."
    Isn't Biden being slammed for releasing all those poor immigrants to Haiti now?
    Slammed from teh left I believe.
    Career diplomat Daniel Foote is now "teh [sic] left," I suppose.
    eyeroll on the [sic].  I'm sure you don't type so fast that it never happens.  

    The point is that he's being slammed on both sides of the political aisle.  Maybe I'm wrong, but even career officers have political leanings.  Would you disagree with that?
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,553
    mrussel1 said:
    tbergs said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    43% approve and 53% disapprove according to that Gallup poll. Now, it's likely that The Juggler will post the 538 link that takes multiple polls into account, so I'll just do it for him. According to it, Biden is at 46.2% approve and 48.3% disapprove

    How Popular Is Joe Biden? | FiveThirtyEight

    And I'll tell ya what, he's going to keep dropping in approval if unchecked illegal immigration keeps up. There was about 15,000 under a bridge in Texas a few days ago. That's down to about 5,000 as of yesterday, but it's not like the other 10,000 were deported. Most are just being released into the U.S. 

    lol, told ya....

    nicknyr15 said:
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

    Folks....again, rather than cherry picking, please look at the average for a better overall picture. His numbers have been slowly inching up Since September 8th.



    You forgot the word "probably" as it relates to "most are being released into the US."
    Isn't Biden being slammed for releasing all those poor immigrants to Haiti now?
    tbergs said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    43% approve and 53% disapprove according to that Gallup poll. Now, it's likely that The Juggler will post the 538 link that takes multiple polls into account, so I'll just do it for him. According to it, Biden is at 46.2% approve and 48.3% disapprove

    How Popular Is Joe Biden? | FiveThirtyEight

    And I'll tell ya what, he's going to keep dropping in approval if unchecked illegal immigration keeps up. There was about 15,000 under a bridge in Texas a few days ago. That's down to about 5,000 as of yesterday, but it's not like the other 10,000 were deported. Most are just being released into the U.S. 

    lol, told ya....

    nicknyr15 said:
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

    Folks....again, rather than cherry picking, please look at the average for a better overall picture. His numbers have been slowly inching up Since September 8th.



    You forgot the word "probably" as it relates to "most are being released into the US."
    Isn't Biden being slammed for releasing all those poor immigrants to Haiti now?
    He’s being slammed for everything “migrant” now. Deportations to Haiti, slammed. Allowed in to the US through established processes, slammed. Keep them under a bridge except when they need to go back to Mexico for supplies, slammed. Haiti as a failed state since Baby Doc but now turn it around in a couple of weeks so we can deport migrants to a happy country expectations and fail, slammed.

    Hey but I heard Abbot & Costello has miles of cars available to give away so they can drive themselves in to the interior and rape and pillage and sell drugs.
    It's not an easy job and it isn't fair.  That's part of the game.  That's why everyone loses seats at midterms but still manages to win re-election (except Trump of course).  Mid terms means you are voting against the president.  When it comes to the election, you have to choose and then the president doesn't look so bad. 
    not to derail, but do you think there was anything trump was slammed for that he shouldn't have been? (I only ask this in this thread instead of the trump thread for continuity's sake)
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,404
    mrussel1 said:
    tbergs said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    43% approve and 53% disapprove according to that Gallup poll. Now, it's likely that The Juggler will post the 538 link that takes multiple polls into account, so I'll just do it for him. According to it, Biden is at 46.2% approve and 48.3% disapprove

    How Popular Is Joe Biden? | FiveThirtyEight

    And I'll tell ya what, he's going to keep dropping in approval if unchecked illegal immigration keeps up. There was about 15,000 under a bridge in Texas a few days ago. That's down to about 5,000 as of yesterday, but it's not like the other 10,000 were deported. Most are just being released into the U.S. 

    lol, told ya....

    nicknyr15 said:
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

    Folks....again, rather than cherry picking, please look at the average for a better overall picture. His numbers have been slowly inching up Since September 8th.



    You forgot the word "probably" as it relates to "most are being released into the US."
    Isn't Biden being slammed for releasing all those poor immigrants to Haiti now?
    tbergs said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    43% approve and 53% disapprove according to that Gallup poll. Now, it's likely that The Juggler will post the 538 link that takes multiple polls into account, so I'll just do it for him. According to it, Biden is at 46.2% approve and 48.3% disapprove

    How Popular Is Joe Biden? | FiveThirtyEight

    And I'll tell ya what, he's going to keep dropping in approval if unchecked illegal immigration keeps up. There was about 15,000 under a bridge in Texas a few days ago. That's down to about 5,000 as of yesterday, but it's not like the other 10,000 were deported. Most are just being released into the U.S. 

    lol, told ya....

    nicknyr15 said:
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

    Folks....again, rather than cherry picking, please look at the average for a better overall picture. His numbers have been slowly inching up Since September 8th.



    You forgot the word "probably" as it relates to "most are being released into the US."
    Isn't Biden being slammed for releasing all those poor immigrants to Haiti now?
    He’s being slammed for everything “migrant” now. Deportations to Haiti, slammed. Allowed in to the US through established processes, slammed. Keep them under a bridge except when they need to go back to Mexico for supplies, slammed. Haiti as a failed state since Baby Doc but now turn it around in a couple of weeks so we can deport migrants to a happy country expectations and fail, slammed.

    Hey but I heard Abbot & Costello has miles of cars available to give away so they can drive themselves in to the interior and rape and pillage and sell drugs.
    It's not an easy job and it isn't fair.  That's part of the game.  That's why everyone loses seats at midterms but still manages to win re-election (except Trump of course).  Mid terms means you are voting against the president.  When it comes to the election, you have to choose and then the president doesn't look so bad. 
    not to derail, but do you think there was anything trump was slammed for that he shouldn't have been? (I only ask this in this thread instead of the trump thread for continuity's sake)
    I'm sure there was.  I think the Syria issue was exactly the same as Afghanistan.  We left and the Kurds were decimated.  The big difference is there wasn't a bombing and it was a smaller area.  
  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,836
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    tbergs said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    43% approve and 53% disapprove according to that Gallup poll. Now, it's likely that The Juggler will post the 538 link that takes multiple polls into account, so I'll just do it for him. According to it, Biden is at 46.2% approve and 48.3% disapprove

    How Popular Is Joe Biden? | FiveThirtyEight

    And I'll tell ya what, he's going to keep dropping in approval if unchecked illegal immigration keeps up. There was about 15,000 under a bridge in Texas a few days ago. That's down to about 5,000 as of yesterday, but it's not like the other 10,000 were deported. Most are just being released into the U.S. 

    lol, told ya....

    nicknyr15 said:
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

    Folks....again, rather than cherry picking, please look at the average for a better overall picture. His numbers have been slowly inching up Since September 8th.



    You forgot the word "probably" as it relates to "most are being released into the US."
    Isn't Biden being slammed for releasing all those poor immigrants to Haiti now?
    Slammed from teh left I believe.
    Career diplomat Daniel Foote is now "teh [sic] left," I suppose.
    eyeroll on the [sic].  I'm sure you don't type so fast that it never happens.  

    The point is that he's being slammed on both sides of the political aisle.  Maybe I'm wrong, but even career officers have political leanings.  Would you disagree with that?
    I'm an editor by trade. I was quoting you. Hence the [sic]. And I'm a horrible typist. So, yes, I fuck up all the time.

    I'm sure that diplomats, just like judges, have political leanings. But we're talking about a humanitarian issue here, and a good diplomat (see Daniel Foote) should first serve humanity more than a party/president. And that's pretty much what I got from his resignation letter.

    It's not his fault that his homeland is full of mouth-breathing goons who like to make everything into a political issue so that they can keep the divisiveness ever pervasive.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,404
    edited September 2021
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    tbergs said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    43% approve and 53% disapprove according to that Gallup poll. Now, it's likely that The Juggler will post the 538 link that takes multiple polls into account, so I'll just do it for him. According to it, Biden is at 46.2% approve and 48.3% disapprove

    How Popular Is Joe Biden? | FiveThirtyEight

    And I'll tell ya what, he's going to keep dropping in approval if unchecked illegal immigration keeps up. There was about 15,000 under a bridge in Texas a few days ago. That's down to about 5,000 as of yesterday, but it's not like the other 10,000 were deported. Most are just being released into the U.S. 

    lol, told ya....

    nicknyr15 said:
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

    Folks....again, rather than cherry picking, please look at the average for a better overall picture. His numbers have been slowly inching up Since September 8th.



    You forgot the word "probably" as it relates to "most are being released into the US."
    Isn't Biden being slammed for releasing all those poor immigrants to Haiti now?
    Slammed from teh left I believe.
    Career diplomat Daniel Foote is now "teh [sic] left," I suppose.
    eyeroll on the [sic].  I'm sure you don't type so fast that it never happens.  

    The point is that he's being slammed on both sides of the political aisle.  Maybe I'm wrong, but even career officers have political leanings.  Would you disagree with that?
    I'm an editor by trade. I was quoting you. Hence the [sic]. And I'm a horrible typist. So, yes, I fuck up all the time.

    I'm sure that diplomats, just like judges, have political leanings. But we're talking about a humanitarian issue here, and a good diplomat (see Daniel Foote) should first serve humanity more than a party/president. And that's pretty much what I got from his resignation letter.

    It's not his fault that his homeland is full of mouth-breathing goons who like to make everything into a political issue so that they can keep the divisiveness ever pervasive.
    So you agree that most of the heat on the Haitian issue is coming from the left or do you think it's the right wing that thinks he should be more generous with refugee status?  Your comment is about one person, the envoy to Haiti.  
    Post edited by mrussel1 on
  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,836
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    tbergs said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    43% approve and 53% disapprove according to that Gallup poll. Now, it's likely that The Juggler will post the 538 link that takes multiple polls into account, so I'll just do it for him. According to it, Biden is at 46.2% approve and 48.3% disapprove

    How Popular Is Joe Biden? | FiveThirtyEight

    And I'll tell ya what, he's going to keep dropping in approval if unchecked illegal immigration keeps up. There was about 15,000 under a bridge in Texas a few days ago. That's down to about 5,000 as of yesterday, but it's not like the other 10,000 were deported. Most are just being released into the U.S. 

    lol, told ya....

    nicknyr15 said:
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

    Folks....again, rather than cherry picking, please look at the average for a better overall picture. His numbers have been slowly inching up Since September 8th.



    You forgot the word "probably" as it relates to "most are being released into the US."
    Isn't Biden being slammed for releasing all those poor immigrants to Haiti now?
    Slammed from teh left I believe.
    Career diplomat Daniel Foote is now "teh [sic] left," I suppose.
    eyeroll on the [sic].  I'm sure you don't type so fast that it never happens.  

    The point is that he's being slammed on both sides of the political aisle.  Maybe I'm wrong, but even career officers have political leanings.  Would you disagree with that?
    I'm an editor by trade. I was quoting you. Hence the [sic]. And I'm a horrible typist. So, yes, I fuck up all the time.

    I'm sure that diplomats, just like judges, have political leanings. But we're talking about a humanitarian issue here, and a good diplomat (see Daniel Foote) should first serve humanity more than a party/president. And that's pretty much what I got from his resignation letter.

    It's not his fault that his homeland is full of mouth-breathing goons who like to make everything into a political issue so that they can keep the divisiveness ever pervasive.
    So you agree that most of the heat on the Haitian issue is coming from the left or do you think it's the right wing that thinks he should be more generous with refugee status?  Your comment is about one person, the envoy to Haiti.  
    Again, I don’t see it as a political issue; it’s a humanitarian one. If more people on the left are concerned, as you say, I guess there are just more humanitarians on the left. Though if they are career politicians, I’d take their concerns with a grain of “yeah, right.”

    It’s likely that some conservative commentators are getting in their political shots as well, though, kind of how they all seem to care about Afghan folks and unaccompanied minors at the US-Mexico border when it suits their talking points. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,404
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    tbergs said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    43% approve and 53% disapprove according to that Gallup poll. Now, it's likely that The Juggler will post the 538 link that takes multiple polls into account, so I'll just do it for him. According to it, Biden is at 46.2% approve and 48.3% disapprove

    How Popular Is Joe Biden? | FiveThirtyEight

    And I'll tell ya what, he's going to keep dropping in approval if unchecked illegal immigration keeps up. There was about 15,000 under a bridge in Texas a few days ago. That's down to about 5,000 as of yesterday, but it's not like the other 10,000 were deported. Most are just being released into the U.S. 

    lol, told ya....

    nicknyr15 said:
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

    Folks....again, rather than cherry picking, please look at the average for a better overall picture. His numbers have been slowly inching up Since September 8th.



    You forgot the word "probably" as it relates to "most are being released into the US."
    Isn't Biden being slammed for releasing all those poor immigrants to Haiti now?
    Slammed from teh left I believe.
    Career diplomat Daniel Foote is now "teh [sic] left," I suppose.
    eyeroll on the [sic].  I'm sure you don't type so fast that it never happens.  

    The point is that he's being slammed on both sides of the political aisle.  Maybe I'm wrong, but even career officers have political leanings.  Would you disagree with that?
    I'm an editor by trade. I was quoting you. Hence the [sic]. And I'm a horrible typist. So, yes, I fuck up all the time.

    I'm sure that diplomats, just like judges, have political leanings. But we're talking about a humanitarian issue here, and a good diplomat (see Daniel Foote) should first serve humanity more than a party/president. And that's pretty much what I got from his resignation letter.

    It's not his fault that his homeland is full of mouth-breathing goons who like to make everything into a political issue so that they can keep the divisiveness ever pervasive.
    So you agree that most of the heat on the Haitian issue is coming from the left or do you think it's the right wing that thinks he should be more generous with refugee status?  Your comment is about one person, the envoy to Haiti.  
    Again, I don’t see it as a political issue; it’s a humanitarian one. If more people on the left are concerned, as you say, I guess there are just more humanitarians on the left. Though if they are career politicians, I’d take their concerns with a grain of “yeah, right.”

    It’s likely that some conservative commentators are getting in their political shots as well, though, kind of how they all seem to care about Afghan folks and unaccompanied minors at the US-Mexico border when it suits their talking points. 
    To the bold.. well yeah. 
  • dankind said:

    Like the US has any standing to advocate for free and fair elections whereas the candidate that wins the popular vote gets sworn into office. Bahahahahahaha, the envoy is funny.
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    nicknyr15 said:
    I forget if it was in this thread or the Covid one but there were folks complaining that we needed to end these benefits to get lazy workers back to work. Looks like they've moved on to better opportunities. Good for them


    https://www.axios.com/covid-unemployment-benefits-labor-job-growth-states-9d8dd899-49e6-4cb4-96fe-e658cefee424.html

    States that ended COVID unemployment benefits see no boost in job growth

    Photo of a white banner that says Now Hiring draped over the top of a restaurant

    Photo: Olivier Douliery/AFP via Getty Images

    States that ended federal unemployment benefits earlier this summer saw August job growth at less than half the rate of states that retained the benefits, according to new data released Friday by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

    Why it matters: Leaders in the largely Republican-led states had insisted that the benefits were discouraging people from work, and ended the assistance program early ahead of its planned expiration on Sept. 6.

    • The benefits, which came in the form of weekly $300 payments, had been in place since spring last year to help families through the pandemic.
    • A growing group of states began ending the benefits in June in what they called an effort to incentivize people to return to the workforce.

    What they're saying: "Economists analyzing the unemployment issue have seen little evidence yet that cutting off the benefits has provided a clear boost to local labor markets, in part because of difficulties separating the influence of the payments from larger shifts in the labor force, or of the potentially offsetting damage done by the pandemic," Reuters writes.

    Worth noting: When jobs are hard to fill, a broader worker awakening over the past year is part of the reason, Axios' Hope King writes.

    So if losing free $ didn't make people get a job...then they were given too much $ to begin with.
    I’ve had my help wanted sign up all summer. Zero people came in, that never happened before.  I’ve hired 3 people since the second week of September. It’s no coincidence. In my immediate area, losing benefits has directly helped businesses find workers. 

    What kind of work are the jobs for?
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,322
    nicknyr15 said:
    I forget if it was in this thread or the Covid one but there were folks complaining that we needed to end these benefits to get lazy workers back to work. Looks like they've moved on to better opportunities. Good for them


    https://www.axios.com/covid-unemployment-benefits-labor-job-growth-states-9d8dd899-49e6-4cb4-96fe-e658cefee424.html

    States that ended COVID unemployment benefits see no boost in job growth

    Photo of a white banner that says Now Hiring draped over the top of a restaurant

    Photo: Olivier Douliery/AFP via Getty Images

    States that ended federal unemployment benefits earlier this summer saw August job growth at less than half the rate of states that retained the benefits, according to new data released Friday by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

    Why it matters: Leaders in the largely Republican-led states had insisted that the benefits were discouraging people from work, and ended the assistance program early ahead of its planned expiration on Sept. 6.

    • The benefits, which came in the form of weekly $300 payments, had been in place since spring last year to help families through the pandemic.
    • A growing group of states began ending the benefits in June in what they called an effort to incentivize people to return to the workforce.

    What they're saying: "Economists analyzing the unemployment issue have seen little evidence yet that cutting off the benefits has provided a clear boost to local labor markets, in part because of difficulties separating the influence of the payments from larger shifts in the labor force, or of the potentially offsetting damage done by the pandemic," Reuters writes.

    Worth noting: When jobs are hard to fill, a broader worker awakening over the past year is part of the reason, Axios' Hope King writes.

    So if losing free $ didn't make people get a job...then they were given too much $ to begin with.
    I’ve had my help wanted sign up all summer. Zero people came in, that never happened before.  I’ve hired 3 people since the second week of September. It’s no coincidence. In my immediate area, losing benefits has directly helped businesses find workers. 

    What kind of work are the jobs for?
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    Fucking funny

  • Well to Biden's credit, he doesn't seem too worried about the hat a young girl is wearing, even if it says Trump on it. Now I'm not usually one to do the "buh buh buh Trump" comparison to everything Biden does. But if the roles were reversed, and it was a girl with a Biden hat on trying to pose next to Trump, Trump would probably call her a loser and have her removed from the photo-op
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  • Well to Biden's credit, he doesn't seem too worried about the hat a young girl is wearing, even if it says Trump on it. Now I'm not usually one to do the "buh buh buh Trump" comparison to everything Biden does. But if the roles were reversed, and it was a girl with a Biden hat on trying to pose next to Trump, Trump would probably call her a loser and have her removed from the photo-op
    I was thinking the same thing... he was a good sport to pose with them. 
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  • Let me know when President Biden calls the governor and demands an audit of the ballots. In a state he won. Talk about idiots. Bahahahahahaha.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,871

    Let me know when President Biden calls the governor and demands an audit of the ballots. In a state he won. Talk about idiots. Bahahahahahaha.

    no shit. really he's trying to expose the party as overtly disenfranchising. yeah we already know this , but still.....
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  • Call me when President Biden declares bankruptcy more than six times. Bahahahahahaha!
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Well to Biden's credit, he doesn't seem too worried about the hat a young girl is wearing, even if it says Trump on it. Now I'm not usually one to do the "buh buh buh Trump" comparison to everything Biden does. But if the roles were reversed, and it was a girl with a Biden hat on trying to pose next to Trump, Trump would probably call her a loser and have her removed from the photo-op
    He was probably intoxicated by the smell of all the children’s hair….Dirty Joe.  And why is his mask down?
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