#46 President Joe Biden
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mrussel1 said:tempo_n_groove said:To say one thing and do the opposite is a lie. Holy shit people...If I buy a minivan and then later said I’ve never bought a minivan, is that a lie? Yes it is.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5017190-hunter-biden-pardon-white-house/
Nov. 7, 2024
Just after the election, when Trump beat Vice President Harris to become the 47th president, White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre reiterated there were no plans to pardon Hunter.
Jean-Pierre was questioned on if the president had any intention of pardoning his son, replying, “We’ve been asked that question multiple times.”
“Our answer stands, which is no,” Jean-Pierre said.
What circumstances have changed since November 7 and December 1?
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mace1229 said:mrussel1 said:tempo_n_groove said:To say one thing and do the opposite is a lie. Holy shit people...If I buy a minivan and then later said I’ve never bought a minivan, is that a lie? Yes it is.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5017190-hunter-biden-pardon-white-house/
Nov. 7, 2024
Just after the election, when Trump beat Vice President Harris to become the 47th president, White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre reiterated there were no plans to pardon Hunter.
Jean-Pierre was questioned on if the president had any intention of pardoning his son, replying, “We’ve been asked that question multiple times.”
“Our answer stands, which is no,” Jean-Pierre said.
What circumstances have changed since November 7 and December 1?
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I have a feeling that the inauguration will be intentionally awkward and divisiveRemember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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Gern Blansten said:I have a feeling that the inauguration will be intentionally awkward and divisive09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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tbergs said:Lerxst1992 said:tbergs said:Gern Blansten said:cincybearcat said:Gern Blansten said:I know calling it a lie is politically convenient...Romney even made a comment saying that he lied and it was disgraceful or something but give me a break. Circumstances changed.
And, like I mentioned before, even Gowdy and Graham said that the charges wouldn't have happened if it weren't Biden's son.
Let's go back to when he was still the candidate, if he won relection, do you really think he wouldn't pardon his son in a 2nd term with nothing left to worry about? He just didn't think he'd have to go back on his word so quickly. I'd argue that at this point, he always knew he would do it unless Harris won and could do it for him.cincybearcat said:Gern Blansten said:I know calling it a lie is politically convenient...Romney even made a comment saying that he lied and it was disgraceful or something but give me a break. Circumstances changed.
And, like I mentioned before, even Gowdy and Graham said that the charges wouldn't have happened if it weren't Biden's son.
He changed his mind due to the increasingly unhinged comments by the opposition leader over the last three months, specifically related to going after the enemy within.
If you don't believe you would not make the same exact change of mind in this situation, imo you are not being honest with yerselves.
Edit, reading the comparison to USSC and abortion, if you have a specific example of a significant change in abortions, there could be a comparable there. But there is no such change. Biden is reacting specifically to the unhinged comments where 47 specifically threatened him and his family. Saying, "well they might see it differently under a new case" is not being specific.
As for the abortion comparison, you don't agree that something changed, but others do, including the justices. I don't agree with them or their reasons because the support of their reasons is lacking. Same as it is for Biden. So is it only a "changed mind" instead of a lie if you agree with the reasons provided? I think we're wading in to some muddy waters if that's the standard. This isn't like me telling my wife I am coming straight home, but then I stop for gas because I didn't realize my tank was low. I think certain situations can be perceived in such a way that allow reasonable people to know when it's an intentionally misleading statement and when it truly is an unknown.If you have an example of a specific threat prior to the recent campaign season, please share. I am not familiar with such a specific and violent threat from one political nominee to a sitting president. Since trump was a nominee at the time of the threat, that carries extra weight. Some of the threats are quoted below.
Regarding abortion you are going at great lengths to interpret what you think the Court did. From Wikipedia, “The majority held that abortion is neither a constitutional right mentioned in the Constitution nor a fundamental right implied by the concept of ordered liberty that comes from Palko v. Connecticut.[1]”They could have easily recited the bolded text to senators during confirmation, as their ruling was a fundamental belief, not some recent complicated legal theory.
And that case referenced is from 1937
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“The crazy lunatics that we have — the fascists, the Marxists, the communists, the people that we have that are actually running the country,” Trump said this month at a rally in Wisconsin. “Those people are more dangerous — the enemy from within — than Russia and China and other people.”
” We have some very bad people. We have some sick people, radical left lunatics. And I think they’re the big — and it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military, because they can’t let that happen.”0 -
Halifax2TheMax said:Gern Blansten said:I have a feeling that the inauguration will be intentionally awkward and divisiveRemember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
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2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
shecky said:
Federal judge accuses President Biden of attempting to 'rewrite history' in Hunter Biden pardon
Scarsi accused President Biden of 'rewriting history' with the pardon of his son, Hunter
Published December 4, 2024 12:23am ESTThe federal judge overseeing Hunter Biden’s tax case issued a sharp rebuke of President Biden's claim that his son was unfairly treated as well as the president's delivery method following the president's last-minute pardon.
U.S. District Judge Mark Scarsi, who is based in the Central District of California and was nominated by President-elect Trump, accused President Biden in a scathing five-page order of "rewriting history" with the pardon and suggested that the breadth of the pardon granted to his son is unconstitutional.
"The Constitution provides the President with broad authority to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, but nowhere does the Constitution give the President the authority to rewrite history," he wrote.
The judge voiced his displeasure that the president alerted the judicial system of his order to pardon his son via a White House press release.
"Rather than providing a true and correct copy of the pardon with the notice, Mr. Biden provided a hyperlink to a White House press release presenting a statement by the President regarding the pardon and the purported text of the pardon," he wrote.
"In short, a press release is not a pardon," he continued.
Scarsi continued, reacting to the president's statement on his son's tax case: "the President asserts that Mr. Biden ‘was treated differently’ from others ‘who were late paying their taxes because of serious addictions,’ implying that Mr. Biden was among those individuals who untimely paid taxes due to addiction. But he is not."
"According to the President, ‘[n]o reasonable person who looks at the facts of [Mr. Biden’s] cases can reach any other conclusion than [Mr. Biden] was singled out only because he is [the President’s] son.’ But two federal judges expressly rejected Biden’s arguments that the Government prosecuted Mr. Biden because of his familial relation to the President. And the President’s own Attorney General and Department of Justice personnel oversaw the investigation leading to the charges," Scarsi wrote.
"In the President’s estimation, this legion of federal civil servants, the undersigned included, are unreasonable people," he said.
The judge said he would dispose of the case once he receives the official pardon from "the appropriate executive agency."
He also vacated Hunter Biden’s sentencing, which was scheduled for Dec. 16. The charges carried up to 17 years behind bars, but the first son would likely have faced a much shorter sentence under federal sentencing guidelines.
"Subject to the following discussion, the Court assumes the pardon is effective and will dispose of the case. The Supreme Court long has recognized that, notwithstanding its nearly unlimited nature, the pardon power extends only to past offenses," he wrote.
Hunter Biden, 54, has had a busy year in court, kicking off his first trial in Delaware in June, when he faced three felony firearm offenses, before he pleaded guilty in a separate felony tax case in September.
President Biden pardoning his son is a departure from his previous remarks to the media over the summer when he insisted he would not pardon the first son.
"Yes," President Biden told ABC News when asked if he would rule out pardoning Hunter ahead of his guilty verdict in the gun case.
Days later, following a jury of Hunter’s peers finding him guilty of three felony firearm offenses, the president again said he would not pardon his son.
"I am not going to do anything," Biden said after Hunter was convicted. "I will abide by the jury’s decision."
Fox News Digital has reached out to the White House for comment.
“The crazy lunatics that we have — the fascists, the Marxists, the communists, the people that we have that are actually running the country,” Trump said this month at a rally in Wisconsin. “Those people are more dangerous — the enemy from within — than Russia and China and other people.”
” We have some very bad people. We have some sick people, radical left lunatics. And I think they’re the big — and it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military, because they can’t let that happen.”
“I need to have the kind of generals that Hitler had.”…
you wouldn’t change your mind after threats like that? Cmon.0 -
mace1229 said:mrussel1 said:tempo_n_groove said:To say one thing and do the opposite is a lie. Holy shit people...If I buy a minivan and then later said I’ve never bought a minivan, is that a lie? Yes it is.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5017190-hunter-biden-pardon-white-house/
Nov. 7, 2024
Just after the election, when Trump beat Vice President Harris to become the 47th president, White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre reiterated there were no plans to pardon Hunter.
Jean-Pierre was questioned on if the president had any intention of pardoning his son, replying, “We’ve been asked that question multiple times.”
“Our answer stands, which is no,” Jean-Pierre said.
What circumstances have changed since November 7 and December 1?
That’s an aid speaking, not Biden.There was new , specific and violent threats against him. He has the right, as we all do, to take his time and reconsider these threats after the heat of this campaign ended, in order to protect his family.0 -
Regarding Hunter Biden.....WHO FUCKING CARES?
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Now Joe Biden is considering pardoning Dr. Fauci, Schiff and Cheney according to Politico. Why would he need to pardon them? Thoughts?
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/04/biden-white-house-pardons-00192610
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Choccoloccotide said:Now Joe Biden is considering pardoning Dr. Fauci, Schiff and Cheney according to Politico. Why would he need to pardon them? Thoughts?
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/04/biden-white-house-pardons-00192610The American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE) reached an agreement with the Social Security Administration (SSA) to protect telework, Bloomberg reported Tuesday, citing messages viewed by the outlet.
The updated contract, which affects 42,000 government employees, will allow workers to stay hybrid until 2029.
The deal was signed by President Biden's former SSA Commissioner, Martin O’Malley."
Expect much more of this bullshit before Joey is finally walked (or wheeled) out the door in January.
But I'm confident that Trump's attornys are smarter than Biden's, and they'll be able to undo or remedy alot of this crap.
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Choccoloccotide said:Now Joe Biden is considering pardoning Dr. Fauci, Schiff and Cheney according to Politico. Why would he need to pardon them? Thoughts?
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/04/biden-white-house-pardons-00192610Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
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2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
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2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
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2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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Choccoloccotide said:Now Joe Biden is considering pardoning Dr. Fauci, Schiff and Cheney according to Politico. Why would he need to pardon them? Thoughts?
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/04/biden-white-house-pardons-00192610Can you tell me the crime Liz Cheney committed?0 -
mrussel1 said:Choccoloccotide said:Now Joe Biden is considering pardoning Dr. Fauci, Schiff and Cheney according to Politico. Why would he need to pardon them? Thoughts?
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/04/biden-white-house-pardons-00192610Can you tell me the crime Liz Cheney committed?0 -
Do not hate the players, hate the game. Hunter is a fuck up. But his dad has power. I hope your dad would do the same for you if he could.0
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Choccoloccotide said:mrussel1 said:Choccoloccotide said:Now Joe Biden is considering pardoning Dr. Fauci, Schiff and Cheney according to Politico. Why would he need to pardon them? Thoughts?
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/04/biden-white-house-pardons-00192610Can you tell me the crime Liz Cheney committed?0 -
Choccoloccotide said:mrussel1 said:Choccoloccotide said:Now Joe Biden is considering pardoning Dr. Fauci, Schiff and Cheney according to Politico. Why would he need to pardon them? Thoughts?
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/04/biden-white-house-pardons-00192610Can you tell me the crime Liz Cheney committed?0 -
shecky said:Choccoloccotide said:mrussel1 said:Choccoloccotide said:Now Joe Biden is considering pardoning Dr. Fauci, Schiff and Cheney according to Politico. Why would he need to pardon them? Thoughts?
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/04/biden-white-house-pardons-00192610Can you tell me the crime Liz Cheney committed?0 -
shecky said:Choccoloccotide said:mrussel1 said:Choccoloccotide said:Now Joe Biden is considering pardoning Dr. Fauci, Schiff and Cheney according to Politico. Why would he need to pardon them? Thoughts?
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/04/biden-white-house-pardons-00192610Can you tell me the crime Liz Cheney committed?jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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