#46 President Joe Biden
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In the aftermath of Hurricane Helene, former President Donald Trump has blasted the Biden administration for its handling of the disaster — going so far as to accuse Democratic leaders of ignoring the needs of Republican storm victims.
But a review of Trump’s record by POLITICO’s E&E News and interviews with two former Trump White House officials show that the former president was flagrantly partisan at times in response to disasters and on at least three occasions hesitated to give disaster aid to areas he considered politically hostile or ordered special treatment for pro-Trump states.
Mark Harvey, who was Trump’s senior director for resilience policy on the National Security Council staff, told E&E News on Wednesday that Trump initially refused to approve disaster aid for California after deadly wildfires in 2018 because of the state’s Democratic leanings.
But Harvey said Trump changed his mind after Harvey pulled voting results to show him that heavily damaged Orange County, California, had more Trump supporters than the entire state of Iowa.
“We went as far as looking up how many votes he got in those impacted areas … to show him these are people who voted for you,” said Harvey, who recently endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris alongside more than 100 other Republican former national security officials.
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Biden could shoot someone on 5th avenue and the left on here would justify it.Exaggerated? Yes. But does look a little spineless that the left on this board justify anything Biden does. Two days ago you all would have agreed that the Dems are different because they wouldn’t even pardon their own.0
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bootlegger10 said:Biden could shoot someone on 5th avenue and the left on here would justify it.Exaggerated? Yes. But does look a little spineless that the left on this board justify anything Biden does. Two days ago you all would have agreed that the Dems are different because they wouldn’t even pardon their own.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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Gern Blansten said:I know calling it a lie is politically convenient...Romney even made a comment saying that he lied and it was disgraceful or something but give me a break. Circumstances changed.
And, like I mentioned before, even Gowdy and Graham said that the charges wouldn't have happened if it weren't Biden's son.hippiemom = goodness0 -
cincybearcat said:Gern Blansten said:I know calling it a lie is politically convenient...Romney even made a comment saying that he lied and it was disgraceful or something but give me a break. Circumstances changed.
And, like I mentioned before, even Gowdy and Graham said that the charges wouldn't have happened if it weren't Biden's son.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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Gern Blansten said:cincybearcat said:Gern Blansten said:I know calling it a lie is politically convenient...Romney even made a comment saying that he lied and it was disgraceful or something but give me a break. Circumstances changed.
And, like I mentioned before, even Gowdy and Graham said that the charges wouldn't have happened if it weren't Biden's son.hippiemom = goodness0 -
Gern Blansten said:cincybearcat said:Gern Blansten said:I know calling it a lie is politically convenient...Romney even made a comment saying that he lied and it was disgraceful or something but give me a break. Circumstances changed.
And, like I mentioned before, even Gowdy and Graham said that the charges wouldn't have happened if it weren't Biden's son.
Let's go back to when he was still the candidate, if he won relection, do you really think he wouldn't pardon his son in a 2nd term with nothing left to worry about? He just didn't think he'd have to go back on his word so quickly. I'd argue that at this point, he always knew he would do it unless Harris won and could do it for him.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
bootlegger10 said:Biden could shoot someone on 5th avenue and the left on here would justify it.Exaggerated? Yes. But does look a little spineless that the left on this board justify anything Biden does. Two days ago you all would have agreed that the Dems are different because they wouldn’t even pardon their own.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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I don't understand what some of you mean by "lie". To me, if you say something knowing it isn't or will not be true, that is a lie. And if you say something you believe you will stand by, but later realize that what you planned on doing was a bad choice OR circumstances have changed OR things didn't turn out as you had expected, AND you do something different, is that a lie? I don't think so. I'd say it is a change of mind.And this: who here will cast the first stone?So much anger. Anger and hatred. Lovely.And I mean me too, though I'm not so much angry lately. What good does arguing do? Nothing. What good endless anger? Nothing. There has to be a better way to spend our time and energy. Like actually doing something to help make positive change happen instead of just being pissed off and arguing.I'm open to ideas!Post edited by brianlux on"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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Lie implies intent to mislead/knowing what you are saying is untrue at the time you said it.What Biden is claiming is that he reneged.We’ll never know which is true, but I know what I would have done.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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brianlux said:I don't understand what some of you mean by "lie". To me, if you say something knowing it isn't or will not be true, that is a lie. And if you say something you believe you will stand by, but later realize that what you planned on doing was a bad choice OR circumstances have changed OR things didn't turn out as you had expected, AND you do something different, is that a lie? I don't think so. I'd say it is a change of mind.And this: who here will cast the first stone?So much anger. Anger and hatred. Lovely.And I mean me too, though I'm not so much angry lately. What good does arguing do? Nothing. What good endless anger? Nothing. There has to be a better way to spend our time and energy. Like actually doing something to help make positive change happen instead of just being pissed off and arguing.I'm open to ideas!
Trump is an easy target in this instance, so let's dig a little deeper and consider what the most recent SCOTUS appointees (Barrett, Kavanaugh and Gorsuch) said during their confirmation hearings about abortion. Many of them were asked point blank if they believe Roe v. Wade was stare decisis and they repeatedly stated they believed it was, but yet less than 5 years later a new case came along and they overturned what they said they wouldn't. Again, I know many here have said they lied in the hearing, but isn't it then also fair for them to say they changed their mind based on new circumstances? I would call bullshit because their personal beliefs made it pretty clear which side they favored and I would say the same thing about the Biden pardon.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
tbergs said:Gern Blansten said:cincybearcat said:Gern Blansten said:I know calling it a lie is politically convenient...Romney even made a comment saying that he lied and it was disgraceful or something but give me a break. Circumstances changed.
And, like I mentioned before, even Gowdy and Graham said that the charges wouldn't have happened if it weren't Biden's son.
Let's go back to when he was still the candidate, if he won relection, do you really think he wouldn't pardon his son in a 2nd term with nothing left to worry about? He just didn't think he'd have to go back on his word so quickly. I'd argue that at this point, he always knew he would do it unless Harris won and could do it for him.cincybearcat said:Gern Blansten said:I know calling it a lie is politically convenient...Romney even made a comment saying that he lied and it was disgraceful or something but give me a break. Circumstances changed.
And, like I mentioned before, even Gowdy and Graham said that the charges wouldn't have happened if it weren't Biden's son.
He changed his mind due to the increasingly unhinged comments by the opposition leader over the last three months, specifically related to going after the enemy within.
If you don't believe you would not make the same exact change of mind in this situation, imo you are not being honest with yerselves.
Edit, reading the comparison to USSC and abortion, if you have a specific example of a significant change in abortions, there could be a comparable there. But there is no such change. Biden is reacting specifically to the unhinged comments where 47 specifically threatened him and his family. Saying, "well they might see it differently under a new case" is not being specific.Post edited by Lerxst1992 on0 -
tbergs said:brianlux said:I don't understand what some of you mean by "lie". To me, if you say something knowing it isn't or will not be true, that is a lie. And if you say something you believe you will stand by, but later realize that what you planned on doing was a bad choice OR circumstances have changed OR things didn't turn out as you had expected, AND you do something different, is that a lie? I don't think so. I'd say it is a change of mind.And this: who here will cast the first stone?So much anger. Anger and hatred. Lovely.And I mean me too, though I'm not so much angry lately. What good does arguing do? Nothing. What good endless anger? Nothing. There has to be a better way to spend our time and energy. Like actually doing something to help make positive change happen instead of just being pissed off and arguing.I'm open to ideas!
Trump is an easy target in this instance, so let's dig a little deeper and consider what the most recent SCOTUS appointees (Barrett, Kavanaugh and Gorsuch) said during their confirmation hearings about abortion. Many of them were asked point blank if they believe Roe v. Wade was stare decisis and they repeatedly stated they believed it was, but yet less than 5 years later a new case came along and they overturned what they said they wouldn't. Again, I know many here have said they lied in the hearing, but isn't it then also fair for them to say they changed their mind based on new circumstances? I would call bullshit because their personal beliefs made it pretty clear which side they favored and I would say the same thing about the Biden pardon.
Sorry t, but no, I would not give the same benefit to D.T. because he is a know chronic liar. Biden is not. It's just that simple.
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Booo booo whooo he lied so fucking what the old man is done to be gone from public life did he pardon a harden criminal or an insurrectionist! Go cry somewhere else
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Gern Blansten said:cincybearcat said:brianlux said:cincybearcat said:brianlux said:cincybearcat said:brianlux said:OK, I'm sorry my friends (and possible foes), but I am compelled to site this quote from Heather's letter. It's something I think bears considering here on AMT:"And yet, much of American media today has been consumed not with the story that Trump has appointed a deeply problematic candidate to run what could be considered the nation’s most important department, overseeing about 3 million personnel and managing a budget of more than $800 billion, or with the reality that Biden’s distrust of our legal system under Trump is a profound warning for all of us.Instead, they have focused on President Biden’s pardon of his son...."Hmmm...Deflection? No. I don't know what you mean about Heather being just like the others.I think the point made was clear. Just saying. But not going to argue it. Moving on.Thanks for clarifying.I don't think Heather was saying "look at this, not that". I think it was more like, "the Biden pardon issues is a thing, but the Trump appointees are WAY more important, so let's keep our priorities straight." Also, I really don't think Heather is telling you or me what to do. She's not into being a dictator, lol.
I am also pissed off and concerned about many of trump's picks for his cabinet....starting with Secretary of Defense (since Gaetz dropped which was my #1 concern at the time)Post edited by mace1229 on0 -
cincybearcat said:Gern Blansten said:cincybearcat said:Gern Blansten said:I know calling it a lie is politically convenient...Romney even made a comment saying that he lied and it was disgraceful or something but give me a break. Circumstances changed.
And, like I mentioned before, even Gowdy and Graham said that the charges wouldn't have happened if it weren't Biden's son.
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cincybearcat said:Gern Blansten said:cincybearcat said:Gern Blansten said:I know calling it a lie is politically convenient...Romney even made a comment saying that he lied and it was disgraceful or something but give me a break. Circumstances changed.
And, like I mentioned before, even Gowdy and Graham said that the charges wouldn't have happened if it weren't Biden's son.Thought of this yestetday and wasnt going to post it.changed my mind.show me on the doll where hunter touched you._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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mickeyrat said:cincybearcat said:Gern Blansten said:cincybearcat said:Gern Blansten said:I know calling it a lie is politically convenient...Romney even made a comment saying that he lied and it was disgraceful or something but give me a break. Circumstances changed.
And, like I mentioned before, even Gowdy and Graham said that the charges wouldn't have happened if it weren't Biden's son.Thought of this yestetday and wasnt going to post it.changed my mind.show me on the doll where hunter touched you.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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mickeyrat said:cincybearcat said:Gern Blansten said:cincybearcat said:Gern Blansten said:I know calling it a lie is politically convenient...Romney even made a comment saying that he lied and it was disgraceful or something but give me a break. Circumstances changed.
And, like I mentioned before, even Gowdy and Graham said that the charges wouldn't have happened if it weren't Biden's son.
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josevolution said:Booo booo whooo he lied so fucking what the old man is done to be gone from public life did he pardon a harden criminal or an insurrectionist! Go cry somewhere elseIt's a hopeless situation...0
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