#46 President Joe Biden

shecky

mrussel1 said:

shecky said:

Choccoloccotide said:

mrussel1 said:

Choccoloccotide said:

Now Joe Biden is considering pardoning Dr. Fauci, Schiff and Cheney according to Politico.  Why would he need to pardon them?  Thoughts?

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/04/biden-white-house-pardons-00192610

So they can’t be prosecuted, why else? This is completely rational considering the nominee for FBI director. I support it 100%. And I don’t support Hunter. 

Can you tell me the crime Liz Cheney committed?

If they haven’t done anything wrong, why do they need a pardon?

Exactly!

Yet you can’t identify anything she may have done illegally, so why the concern?  

So why the pardon?

josevolution

shecky said:

Choccoloccotide said:

mrussel1 said:

Choccoloccotide said:

Now Joe Biden is considering pardoning Dr. Fauci, Schiff and Cheney according to Politico.  Why would he need to pardon them?  Thoughts?

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/04/biden-white-house-pardons-00192610

So they can’t be prosecuted, why else? This is completely rational considering the nominee for FBI director. I support it 100%. And I don’t support Hunter. 

Can you tell me the crime Liz Cheney committed?

If they haven’t done anything wrong, why do they need a pardon?

Exactly!

https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/politics/who-did-trump-pardon-during-first-presidential-term/67-abd8a81a-534e-4b4c-b912-f7e98d22d9c4

Here you go boys it’s easy reading 

mace1229

Gern Blansten said:

I have a feeling that the inauguration will be intentionally awkward and divisive

I hope not. I hope Biden is professional like he was when he invited Trump to the White House. So maybe we can return to normal politics one day instead of childish games. I’m referring to how Trump acted like a baby 4 years ago during the inauguration.

Gern Blansten

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

I have a feeling that the inauguration will be intentionally awkward and divisive

I hope not. I hope Biden is professional like he was when he invited Trump to the White House. So maybe we can return to normal politics one day instead of childish games. I’m referring to how Trump acted like a baby 4 years ago during the inauguration.

I'm not worried about Biden lol

Go Beavers

Choccoloccotide said:

mrussel1 said:

Choccoloccotide said:

Now Joe Biden is considering pardoning Dr. Fauci, Schiff and Cheney according to Politico.  Why would he need to pardon them?  Thoughts?

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/04/biden-white-house-pardons-00192610

So they can’t be prosecuted, why else? This is completely rational considering the nominee for FBI director. I support it 100%. And I don’t support Hunter. 

Can you tell me the crime Liz Cheney committed?

If they haven’t done anything wrong, why do they need a pardon?

Have you said the words “weaponized DOJ” over the las 4 years? Or do you think Trump did things that were wrong and deserved all the indictments he got? 

Go Beavers

shecky said:

Choccoloccotide said:

Now Joe Biden is considering pardoning Dr. Fauci, Schiff and Cheney according to Politico.  Why would he need to pardon them?  Thoughts?

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/04/biden-white-house-pardons-00192610

Yeah, here's another beauty they pulled yesterday: "A union representing thousands of federal and government workers landed members a work from home deal ahead of the incoming Trump administration's efforts to force workers to return to office.

The American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE) reached an agreement with the Social Security Administration (SSA) to protect telework, Bloomberg reported Tuesday, citing messages viewed by the outlet. 

The updated contract, which affects 42,000 government employees, will allow workers to stay hybrid until 2029.

The deal was signed by President Biden's former SSA Commissioner, Martin O’Malley."

Expect much more of this bullshit before Joey is finally walked (or wheeled) out the door in January.

But I'm confident that Trump's attornys are smarter than Biden's, and they'll be able to undo or remedy alot of this crap.

What do you have against work from home? 

brianlux

tbergs said:

brianlux said:

tbergs said:

brianlux said:

I don't understand what some of you mean by "lie".  To me, if you say something knowing it isn't or will not be true, that is a lie.  And if you say something you believe you will stand by, but later realize that what you planned on doing was a bad choice OR circumstances have changed OR things didn't turn out as you had expected, AND you do something different, is that a lie?  I don't think so.  I'd say it is a change of mind. 

And this:  who here will cast the first stone? 

So much anger.  Anger and hatred.  Lovely.

And I mean me too, though I'm not so much angry lately.  What good does arguing do?  Nothing.  What good endless anger?  Nothing.  There has to be a better way to spend our time and energy.  Like actually doing something to help make positive change happen instead of just being pissed off and arguing.

I'm open to ideas!

Brian, I get what you're saying, but I think that way of looking at it provides way too much benefit of the doubt in instances that simply seem implausible. Are any of us willing to give this same benefit to Trump for anything he says and later does/doesn't do? Most likely not and I don't see anyone trying to provide this argument for him about anything.

Trump is an easy target in this instance, so let's dig a little deeper and consider what the most recent SCOTUS appointees (Barrett, Kavanaugh and Gorsuch) said during their confirmation hearings about abortion. Many of them were asked point blank if they believe Roe v. Wade was stare decisis and they repeatedly stated they believed it was, but yet less than 5 years later a new case came along and they overturned what they said they wouldn't. Again, I know many here have said they lied in the hearing, but isn't it then also fair for them to say they changed their mind based on new circumstances? I would call bullshit because their personal beliefs made it pretty clear which side they favored and I would say the same thing about the Biden pardon.

Sorry t, but no, I would not give the same benefit to D.T. because he is a know chronic liar.  Biden is not.  It's just  that simple.

Yeah, Trump lies all the time and we know it because he lies with impunity. Biden is usually more tactful in his lies, more politician like I would say. It's just so weird that we've come to a point where republicans won't call out blatant Trump lies and Dems won't call out clear Biden lies. Both parties should be able to call out all lies, but instead they both pretend only their opponent lies.

You keep calling it a lie, I call it a change of mind.

Stalemate. 

shecky

Go Beavers said:

shecky said:

Choccoloccotide said:

Now Joe Biden is considering pardoning Dr. Fauci, Schiff and Cheney according to Politico.  Why would he need to pardon them?  Thoughts?

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/04/biden-white-house-pardons-00192610

Yeah, here's another beauty they pulled yesterday: "A union representing thousands of federal and government workers landed members a work from home deal ahead of the incoming Trump administration's efforts to force workers to return to office.

The American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE) reached an agreement with the Social Security Administration (SSA) to protect telework, Bloomberg reported Tuesday, citing messages viewed by the outlet. 

The updated contract, which affects 42,000 government employees, will allow workers to stay hybrid until 2029.

The deal was signed by President Biden's former SSA Commissioner, Martin O’Malley."

Expect much more of this bullshit before Joey is finally walked (or wheeled) out the door in January.

But I'm confident that Trump's attornys are smarter than Biden's, and they'll be able to undo or remedy alot of this crap.

What do you have against work from home? 

Because they belong in the office. It worked well for many decades before Covid and they need to return.

josevolution

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

I have a feeling that the inauguration will be intentionally awkward and divisive

I hope not. I hope Biden is professional like he was when he invited Trump to the White House. So maybe we can return to normal politics one day instead of childish games. I’m referring to how Trump acted like a baby 4 years ago during the inauguration.

He deserves nothing from Biden but a fist to the jaw! It’s always the Democrat who has to show good faith I say fuck that! 

tbergs

shecky said:

Go Beavers said:

shecky said:

Choccoloccotide said:

Now Joe Biden is considering pardoning Dr. Fauci, Schiff and Cheney according to Politico.  Why would he need to pardon them?  Thoughts?

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/04/biden-white-house-pardons-00192610

Yeah, here's another beauty they pulled yesterday: "A union representing thousands of federal and government workers landed members a work from home deal ahead of the incoming Trump administration's efforts to force workers to return to office.

The American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE) reached an agreement with the Social Security Administration (SSA) to protect telework, Bloomberg reported Tuesday, citing messages viewed by the outlet. 

The updated contract, which affects 42,000 government employees, will allow workers to stay hybrid until 2029.

The deal was signed by President Biden's former SSA Commissioner, Martin O’Malley."

Expect much more of this bullshit before Joey is finally walked (or wheeled) out the door in January.

But I'm confident that Trump's attornys are smarter than Biden's, and they'll be able to undo or remedy alot of this crap.

What do you have against work from home? 

Because they belong in the office. It worked well for many decades before Covid and they need to return.

Weird assessment. It worked well for many years for segregation, women as homemakers and presidents to peacefully transfer power, oh wait, that last one should still happen, but Trump is a crook.

Anyway, in this day and age making a group of people occupy building space for something they can do from a computer anywhere in the world is inefficient and a waste of tax payers' money. I thought you were all for efficiency and cutting waste?

shecky

tbergs said:

shecky said:

Go Beavers said:

shecky said:

Choccoloccotide said:

Now Joe Biden is considering pardoning Dr. Fauci, Schiff and Cheney according to Politico.  Why would he need to pardon them?  Thoughts?

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/04/biden-white-house-pardons-00192610

Yeah, here's another beauty they pulled yesterday: "A union representing thousands of federal and government workers landed members a work from home deal ahead of the incoming Trump administration's efforts to force workers to return to office.

The American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE) reached an agreement with the Social Security Administration (SSA) to protect telework, Bloomberg reported Tuesday, citing messages viewed by the outlet. 

The updated contract, which affects 42,000 government employees, will allow workers to stay hybrid until 2029.

The deal was signed by President Biden's former SSA Commissioner, Martin O’Malley."

Expect much more of this bullshit before Joey is finally walked (or wheeled) out the door in January.

But I'm confident that Trump's attornys are smarter than Biden's, and they'll be able to undo or remedy alot of this crap.

What do you have against work from home? 

Because they belong in the office. It worked well for many decades before Covid and they need to return.

Weird assessment. It worked well for many years for segregation, women as homemakers and presidents to peacefully transfer power, oh wait, that last one should still happen, but Trump is a crook.

Anyway, in this day and age making a group of people occupy building space for something they can do from a computer anywhere in the world is inefficient and a waste of tax payers' money. I thought you were all for efficiency and cutting waste?

We already own the buildings, they are ilumminated, heated and/or air conditioned whether 10 people or 10,000 are present. And, the only way you can truly ensure that employees are putting in a full eight hour day is for them to show up at work. Just clocking in and out electronically from home is rife with dishonesty and fraud. And no, I do not have the studies at hand.

cincybearcat

shecky said:

tbergs said:

shecky said:

Go Beavers said:

shecky said:

Choccoloccotide said:

Now Joe Biden is considering pardoning Dr. Fauci, Schiff and Cheney according to Politico.  Why would he need to pardon them?  Thoughts?

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/04/biden-white-house-pardons-00192610

Yeah, here's another beauty they pulled yesterday: "A union representing thousands of federal and government workers landed members a work from home deal ahead of the incoming Trump administration's efforts to force workers to return to office.

The American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE) reached an agreement with the Social Security Administration (SSA) to protect telework, Bloomberg reported Tuesday, citing messages viewed by the outlet. 

The updated contract, which affects 42,000 government employees, will allow workers to stay hybrid until 2029.

The deal was signed by President Biden's former SSA Commissioner, Martin O’Malley."

Expect much more of this bullshit before Joey is finally walked (or wheeled) out the door in January.

But I'm confident that Trump's attornys are smarter than Biden's, and they'll be able to undo or remedy alot of this crap.

What do you have against work from home? 

Because they belong in the office. It worked well for many decades before Covid and they need to return.

Weird assessment. It worked well for many years for segregation, women as homemakers and presidents to peacefully transfer power, oh wait, that last one should still happen, but Trump is a crook.

Anyway, in this day and age making a group of people occupy building space for something they can do from a computer anywhere in the world is inefficient and a waste of tax payers' money. I thought you were all for efficiency and cutting waste?

We already own the buildings, they are ilumminated, heated and/or air conditioned whether 10 people or 10,000 are present. And, the only way you can truly ensure that employees are putting in a full eight hour day is for them to show up at work. Just clocking in and out electronically from home is rife with dishonesty and fraud. And no, I do not have the studies at hand.

You don’t have to illuminate and heat the whole thing though. 

And your statement about needing them to show up to be sure they are working tells me you shouldn’t be a boss ever.

Halifax2TheMax

The minions gotta minion. Can’t minion from home in your pjs, everyone knows that. If that CEO minioned from home, he might still be alive, eh?

mrussel1

shecky said:

tbergs said:

shecky said:

Go Beavers said:

shecky said:

Choccoloccotide said:

Now Joe Biden is considering pardoning Dr. Fauci, Schiff and Cheney according to Politico.  Why would he need to pardon them?  Thoughts?

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/04/biden-white-house-pardons-00192610

Yeah, here's another beauty they pulled yesterday: "A union representing thousands of federal and government workers landed members a work from home deal ahead of the incoming Trump administration's efforts to force workers to return to office.

The American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE) reached an agreement with the Social Security Administration (SSA) to protect telework, Bloomberg reported Tuesday, citing messages viewed by the outlet. 

The updated contract, which affects 42,000 government employees, will allow workers to stay hybrid until 2029.

The deal was signed by President Biden's former SSA Commissioner, Martin O’Malley."

Expect much more of this bullshit before Joey is finally walked (or wheeled) out the door in January.

But I'm confident that Trump's attornys are smarter than Biden's, and they'll be able to undo or remedy alot of this crap.

What do you have against work from home? 

Because they belong in the office. It worked well for many decades before Covid and they need to return.

Weird assessment. It worked well for many years for segregation, women as homemakers and presidents to peacefully transfer power, oh wait, that last one should still happen, but Trump is a crook.

Anyway, in this day and age making a group of people occupy building space for something they can do from a computer anywhere in the world is inefficient and a waste of tax payers' money. I thought you were all for efficiency and cutting waste?

We already own the buildings, they are ilumminated, heated and/or air conditioned whether 10 people or 10,000 are present. And, the only way you can truly ensure that employees are putting in a full eight hour day is for them to show up at work. Just clocking in and out electronically from home is rife with dishonesty and fraud. And no, I do not have the studies at hand.

No it isn’t the only way. There are plenty of productivity monitoring tools available to businesses today. I use Controlio in my company and it works great.  And there are plenty of studies that show white collar workers are more productive and work longer hours and less attrition when they don’t have to commute. People also view it as a benefit, which leads to higher job satisfaction. 

To be clear there are counter arguments against WFH but you have not articulated them. 

mrussel1

shecky said:

mrussel1 said:

shecky said:

Choccoloccotide said:

mrussel1 said:

Choccoloccotide said:

Now Joe Biden is considering pardoning Dr. Fauci, Schiff and Cheney according to Politico.  Why would he need to pardon them?  Thoughts?

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/04/biden-white-house-pardons-00192610

So they can’t be prosecuted, why else? This is completely rational considering the nominee for FBI director. I support it 100%. And I don’t support Hunter. 

Can you tell me the crime Liz Cheney committed?

If they haven’t done anything wrong, why do they need a pardon?

Exactly!

Yet you can’t identify anything she may have done illegally, so why the concern?  

So why the pardon?

I’m not playing circular argument with you. I already explained it. 

mace1229

josevolution said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

I have a feeling that the inauguration will be intentionally awkward and divisive

I hope not. I hope Biden is professional like he was when he invited Trump to the White House. So maybe we can return to normal politics one day instead of childish games. I’m referring to how Trump acted like a baby 4 years ago during the inauguration.

He deserves nothing from Biden but a fist to the jaw! It’s always the Democrat who has to show good faith I say fuck that! 

It's not about what trump deserves. Its about returning to the normalcy we've lacked.

Gern Blansten

mace1229 said:

josevolution said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

I have a feeling that the inauguration will be intentionally awkward and divisive

I hope not. I hope Biden is professional like he was when he invited Trump to the White House. So maybe we can return to normal politics one day instead of childish games. I’m referring to how Trump acted like a baby 4 years ago during the inauguration.

He deserves nothing from Biden but a fist to the jaw! It’s always the Democrat who has to show good faith I say fuck that! 

It's not about what trump deserves. Its about returning to the normalcy we've lacked.

Lacked because of trump. As of now Biden has stated that he would attend the inauguration as well as Harris.

trump didn't attend and tried to sack the capitol

benjs

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

I have a feeling that the inauguration will be intentionally awkward and divisive

I hope not. I hope Biden is professional like he was when he invited Trump to the White House. So maybe we can return to normal politics one day instead of childish games. I’m referring to how Trump acted like a baby 4 years ago during the inauguration.

Yes, I hope he shows dignity and class as he hands the keys to the arsonist.

mace1229

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

josevolution said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

I have a feeling that the inauguration will be intentionally awkward and divisive

I hope not. I hope Biden is professional like he was when he invited Trump to the White House. So maybe we can return to normal politics one day instead of childish games. I’m referring to how Trump acted like a baby 4 years ago during the inauguration.

He deserves nothing from Biden but a fist to the jaw! It’s always the Democrat who has to show good faith I say fuck that! 

It's not about what trump deserves. Its about returning to the normalcy we've lacked.

Lacked because of trump. As of now Biden has stated that he would attend the inauguration as well as Harris.

trump didn't attend and tried to sack the capitol

I don't disagree with that. I said trump was being childish 4 years ago and I hope that era of politics is over.

Lerxst1992

shecky said:

Choccoloccotide said:

Now Joe Biden is considering pardoning Dr. Fauci, Schiff and Cheney according to Politico.  Why would he need to pardon them?  Thoughts?

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/04/biden-white-house-pardons-00192610

Yeah, here's another beauty they pulled yesterday: "A union representing thousands of federal and government workers landed members a work from home deal ahead of the incoming Trump administration's efforts to force workers to return to office.

The American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE) reached an agreement with the Social Security Administration (SSA) to protect telework, Bloomberg reported Tuesday, citing messages viewed by the outlet. 

The updated contract, which affects 42,000 government employees, will allow workers to stay hybrid until 2029.

The deal was signed by President Biden's former SSA Commissioner, Martin O’Malley."

Expect much more of this bullshit before Joey is finally walked (or wheeled) out the door in January.

But I'm confident that Trump's attornys are smarter than Biden's, and they'll be able to undo or remedy alot of this crap.

Do you even know your side is lying about cutting the budget by $2T? Defense, Medicare, and interest account for nearly 80% of the budget. Which one of those are you cutting? Elon and Vivek would need to cut almost everything else to reach their target cuts

One program they said they want to eliminate is the NIH, which is responsible for a lot of the tremendous advances the US government attained for cancer treatment.

In reality, your team is celebrating more cancer, that’s what they were cheering for at the msg rally, @shecky

so stay hidden in your safe and comfy spaces so you can keep up with the absurd and disingenuous attacks, unless you want cancer?