#46 President Joe Biden
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The problem is that no one cares how it was handled, that’s silly and for media presentation.The Juggler said:
I'm not confused. Even Trump said last summer that sometimes classified documents get mixed into personal belongings. What's good is the president and his lawyers did the right thing and alerted the far left communist group known as the National Archives right away. What would have been bad is to not say anything, or lie about having them, or refusing to return them because, ya know, that could imply criminal intent.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Don’t be sorry. I’m as confused as you are. I mean, it doesn’t add up. Somehow the receipts of him having these docs was leaked because they popped up somewhere where they couldn’t be kept quiet anymore. He had them for 6 years and no one cared. Then suddenly his lawyers go digging through the stuff in an old office he hadn’t been in in years and turned them over so he could be viewed as the good guy? Too weird. They prob would have just shredded the damn things if it hadnt come out somewhere bad that he had them.The Juggler said:
Ummm, no.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:Another difference -
with trump there was a list. The SS and FBI and archives all knew what he had, where it was, and that the secret service was providing security for it. With the Big Guy, the docs seem to be wherever he last dropped them. He never had declassification authority, he apparently doesn’t even know what docs he had kept or where they were yet there wasn’t a peep about national security issues like there were with trump. Is it because they never trust Joe with things of nat’l security or is it because he’s a democrat.
This is just being sanitized, it is in every way as big a problem as trumps was/is.
Trust me, man. Don't get your hopes up. This isn't going to turn out the way you'd like. I would refer you to a reputable news organization. This whole situation just shows the world how a normal president is supposed to handle things and how Trump handles things. Sorry.
there’s reports out that these docs were classified such that they could only be viewed in a SCIF- meaning no one had permission to remove them. I’m not going all anti trump style and saying they were nuke codes lol, but we do know they are about Ukraine and Iran.
Like I said, stark contrast in the right way and the Trump way of handling things. Good for everyone to see.
The fact is that in one case trump was a douche, had docs that everyone knew he had (they were being protected) but wouldn’t turn them over. Trump unfortunately for those who hate him, had the power to declassify absolutely anything. So anyone who tries to make a crime out of possession is going to come up against the airtight defense of “I declassified everything I removed to Mar A Lago.” That’s why he hasn’t been charged- leaving the accusation in the air is FAR more valuable than a prosecution that would surely end in his favor.
on the other hand you have a vice president who had no authority to possess classified documents so he’s already looking at the slammer, and don’t expect Barry to step forward and announce that he declassified them, the two don’t like each other.
VP’s only have secret service protection for a few months after they leave office vs trump who has it for life. So the docs found in Delaware were unsecured from sometime in 2017 to when he become president around late January 2021.
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No way, it doesn’t make sense. His lawyers found them? Since when is a lawyer, who gets paid hundreds of dollars an hour, asked to clean out an old office? Wouldn’t you have someone else do it like an aid?? And no way Biden asked anyone to do anything- they tried to hide this. If they were being as transparent as you’re saying, why’d they wait 60 days to tell us? And only told us about the first find, when a few weeks ago they found another set?Gern Blansten said:
They were clearing out his old office and found them and they did what they should have done and reported them.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Don’t be sorry. I’m as confused as you are. I mean, it doesn’t add up. Somehow the receipts of him having these docs was leaked because they popped up somewhere where they couldn’t be kept quiet anymore. He had them for 6 years and no one cared. Then suddenly his lawyers go digging through the stuff in an old office he hadn’t been in in years and turned them over so he could be viewed as the good guy? Too weird. They prob would have just shredded the damn things if it hadnt come out somewhere bad that he had them.The Juggler said:
Ummm, no.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:Another difference -
with trump there was a list. The SS and FBI and archives all knew what he had, where it was, and that the secret service was providing security for it. With the Big Guy, the docs seem to be wherever he last dropped them. He never had declassification authority, he apparently doesn’t even know what docs he had kept or where they were yet there wasn’t a peep about national security issues like there were with trump. Is it because they never trust Joe with things of nat’l security or is it because he’s a democrat.
This is just being sanitized, it is in every way as big a problem as trumps was/is.
Trust me, man. Don't get your hopes up. This isn't going to turn out the way you'd like. I would refer you to a reputable news organization. This whole situation just shows the world how a normal president is supposed to handle things and how Trump handles things. Sorry.
there’s reports out that these docs were classified such that they could only be viewed in a SCIF- meaning no one had permission to remove them. I’m not going all anti trump style and saying they were nuke codes lol, but we do know they are about Ukraine and Iran.
After finding those Biden likely ordered a sweep of everything else so that there would be no questions dragging on by dipshit republicans.
Biden can be trusted. tRump cannot.They found the first ones on November 2, the second on dec 20.I'm like an opening band for your mom.0 -
THIRD SET FOUND.
1- found in the closet at the pen Biden center DC
11/2/22
2- in his garage next to his corvette Wilmington DE
12/20/22
3- in his Wilmington DE house
we hear about it today, 1/12/23 -unknown yet when these were found.
so they told us on Monday about the first find. Didn’t mention it was BEFORE the election, and that there had been a second set already found, which they knew about.
then Garland tells us he had appointed a US Attorney to look into it on 11/10. (Yet we weren’t told about it until Monday 1/9, instead of back in November when he did it).
why again are Biden’s PRIVATE attorneys being allowed to sift through and find more items??? Shouldn’t the FBI be there at this point to be sure this is being done correctly?
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"The problem is that no one cares how it was handled, that’s silly and for media presentation." LOL. What?
The entire republican party is demanding a raid of Biden's house. The reason that will not happen is because Biden and his lawyers handled the documents properly once they were discovered. In contrast, Trump lied about having waaaay more. And then he refused to turn them over even after a subpoena. Those are facts and that is criminal behavior, friend. He had well over a year to handle this the right way and refused. Being a "douche" isn't an excuse. Sorry.
A right way and a Trump way.
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You should get off the pipe. Or call Bull Durham. He’ll get to the bottom of it.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
The problem is that no one cares how it was handled, that’s silly and for media presentation.The Juggler said:
I'm not confused. Even Trump said last summer that sometimes classified documents get mixed into personal belongings. What's good is the president and his lawyers did the right thing and alerted the far left communist group known as the National Archives right away. What would have been bad is to not say anything, or lie about having them, or refusing to return them because, ya know, that could imply criminal intent.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Don’t be sorry. I’m as confused as you are. I mean, it doesn’t add up. Somehow the receipts of him having these docs was leaked because they popped up somewhere where they couldn’t be kept quiet anymore. He had them for 6 years and no one cared. Then suddenly his lawyers go digging through the stuff in an old office he hadn’t been in in years and turned them over so he could be viewed as the good guy? Too weird. They prob would have just shredded the damn things if it hadnt come out somewhere bad that he had them.The Juggler said:
Ummm, no.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:Another difference -
with trump there was a list. The SS and FBI and archives all knew what he had, where it was, and that the secret service was providing security for it. With the Big Guy, the docs seem to be wherever he last dropped them. He never had declassification authority, he apparently doesn’t even know what docs he had kept or where they were yet there wasn’t a peep about national security issues like there were with trump. Is it because they never trust Joe with things of nat’l security or is it because he’s a democrat.
This is just being sanitized, it is in every way as big a problem as trumps was/is.
Trust me, man. Don't get your hopes up. This isn't going to turn out the way you'd like. I would refer you to a reputable news organization. This whole situation just shows the world how a normal president is supposed to handle things and how Trump handles things. Sorry.
there’s reports out that these docs were classified such that they could only be viewed in a SCIF- meaning no one had permission to remove them. I’m not going all anti trump style and saying they were nuke codes lol, but we do know they are about Ukraine and Iran.
Like I said, stark contrast in the right way and the Trump way of handling things. Good for everyone to see.
The fact is that in one case trump was a douche, had docs that everyone knew he had (they were being protected) but wouldn’t turn them over. Trump unfortunately for those who hate him, had the power to declassify absolutely anything. So anyone who tries to make a crime out of possession is going to come up against the airtight defense of “I declassified everything I removed to Mar A Lago.” That’s why he hasn’t been charged- leaving the accusation in the air is FAR more valuable than a prosecution that would surely end in his favor.
on the other hand you have a vice president who had no authority to possess classified documents so he’s already looking at the slammer, and don’t expect Barry to step forward and announce that he declassified them, the two don’t like each other.
VP’s only have secret service protection for a few months after they leave office vs trump who has it for life. So the docs found in Delaware were unsecured from sometime in 2017 to when he become president around late January 2021.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Don’t be sorry. You’re acting like if Trump had been seriously concerned about the documents and just turned them over it would have been a non issue. Lmao, no. It wouldn’t have ended there.The Juggler said:"The problem is that no one cares how it was handled, that’s silly and for media presentation." LOL. What?
The entire republican party is demanding a raid of Biden's house. The reason that will not happen is because Biden and his lawyers handled the documents properly once they were discovered. In contrast, Trump lied about having waaaay more. And then he refused to turn them over even after a subpoena. Those are facts and that is criminal behavior, friend. He had well over a year to handle this the right way and refused. Being a "douche" isn't an excuse. Sorry.This isn’t about how you acted once you were caught, this is an issue of being caught with illegal stuff or not.
Being a nice criminal doesn’t mean you are anything less than a criminal. It’s simply not going to cover up what’s going on here. Even reporters from cnn and cbs were obliterating KJP at the briefing today. She even said “we released a statement this morning on what was found last night.” WTF was found last night?!?!I’m sure it’s nothing and she was just stammering after getting her ass kicked, but maybe just maybe this is going to keep us entertained for a while longer.It’s like whack a mole with these documents. Did anyone check under the bed?!I'm like an opening band for your mom.0 -
Well we can be sure, unlike during bull durhams probe, and more like a democrat probe like Mueller, there’ll be a few leaks a week for us to enjoy!Halifax2TheMax said:
You should get off the pipe. Or call Bull Durham. He’ll get to the bottom of it.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
The problem is that no one cares how it was handled, that’s silly and for media presentation.The Juggler said:
I'm not confused. Even Trump said last summer that sometimes classified documents get mixed into personal belongings. What's good is the president and his lawyers did the right thing and alerted the far left communist group known as the National Archives right away. What would have been bad is to not say anything, or lie about having them, or refusing to return them because, ya know, that could imply criminal intent.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Don’t be sorry. I’m as confused as you are. I mean, it doesn’t add up. Somehow the receipts of him having these docs was leaked because they popped up somewhere where they couldn’t be kept quiet anymore. He had them for 6 years and no one cared. Then suddenly his lawyers go digging through the stuff in an old office he hadn’t been in in years and turned them over so he could be viewed as the good guy? Too weird. They prob would have just shredded the damn things if it hadnt come out somewhere bad that he had them.The Juggler said:
Ummm, no.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:Another difference -
with trump there was a list. The SS and FBI and archives all knew what he had, where it was, and that the secret service was providing security for it. With the Big Guy, the docs seem to be wherever he last dropped them. He never had declassification authority, he apparently doesn’t even know what docs he had kept or where they were yet there wasn’t a peep about national security issues like there were with trump. Is it because they never trust Joe with things of nat’l security or is it because he’s a democrat.
This is just being sanitized, it is in every way as big a problem as trumps was/is.
Trust me, man. Don't get your hopes up. This isn't going to turn out the way you'd like. I would refer you to a reputable news organization. This whole situation just shows the world how a normal president is supposed to handle things and how Trump handles things. Sorry.
there’s reports out that these docs were classified such that they could only be viewed in a SCIF- meaning no one had permission to remove them. I’m not going all anti trump style and saying they were nuke codes lol, but we do know they are about Ukraine and Iran.
Like I said, stark contrast in the right way and the Trump way of handling things. Good for everyone to see.
The fact is that in one case trump was a douche, had docs that everyone knew he had (they were being protected) but wouldn’t turn them over. Trump unfortunately for those who hate him, had the power to declassify absolutely anything. So anyone who tries to make a crime out of possession is going to come up against the airtight defense of “I declassified everything I removed to Mar A Lago.” That’s why he hasn’t been charged- leaving the accusation in the air is FAR more valuable than a prosecution that would surely end in his favor.
on the other hand you have a vice president who had no authority to possess classified documents so he’s already looking at the slammer, and don’t expect Barry to step forward and announce that he declassified them, the two don’t like each other.
VP’s only have secret service protection for a few months after they leave office vs trump who has it for life. So the docs found in Delaware were unsecured from sometime in 2017 to when he become president around late January 2021.I'm like an opening band for your mom.0 -
Sorry man. You have this wrong. Please refer to a reputable news source. I asked you to do this before when you were spouting nonsense about the Durham stuff. You're just continually setting yourself up for disappointment.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Don’t be sorry. You’re acting like if Trump had been seriously concerned about the documents and just turned them over it would have been a non issue. Lmao, no. It wouldn’t have ended there.The Juggler said:"The problem is that no one cares how it was handled, that’s silly and for media presentation." LOL. What?
The entire republican party is demanding a raid of Biden's house. The reason that will not happen is because Biden and his lawyers handled the documents properly once they were discovered. In contrast, Trump lied about having waaaay more. And then he refused to turn them over even after a subpoena. Those are facts and that is criminal behavior, friend. He had well over a year to handle this the right way and refused. Being a "douche" isn't an excuse. Sorry.
Had trump returned the documents when he was asked to do so, he likely wouldn't be in any trouble. We may likely have never known about it. Instead, he lied about having them and refused to return them, despite receiving a subpoena and that is why his resort home was raided. His actions imply criminal intent.
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Would you agree with both Brandon and POOTWH being investigated and if a grand jury determines a crime had been committed, for them both to be tried, and if convicted, suffer whatever penalty the law and circumstances allow? Would you settle for that?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Well we can be sure, unlike during bull durhams probe, and more like a democrat probe like Mueller, there’ll be a few leaks a week for us to enjoy!Halifax2TheMax said:
You should get off the pipe. Or call Bull Durham. He’ll get to the bottom of it.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
The problem is that no one cares how it was handled, that’s silly and for media presentation.The Juggler said:
I'm not confused. Even Trump said last summer that sometimes classified documents get mixed into personal belongings. What's good is the president and his lawyers did the right thing and alerted the far left communist group known as the National Archives right away. What would have been bad is to not say anything, or lie about having them, or refusing to return them because, ya know, that could imply criminal intent.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Don’t be sorry. I’m as confused as you are. I mean, it doesn’t add up. Somehow the receipts of him having these docs was leaked because they popped up somewhere where they couldn’t be kept quiet anymore. He had them for 6 years and no one cared. Then suddenly his lawyers go digging through the stuff in an old office he hadn’t been in in years and turned them over so he could be viewed as the good guy? Too weird. They prob would have just shredded the damn things if it hadnt come out somewhere bad that he had them.The Juggler said:
Ummm, no.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:Another difference -
with trump there was a list. The SS and FBI and archives all knew what he had, where it was, and that the secret service was providing security for it. With the Big Guy, the docs seem to be wherever he last dropped them. He never had declassification authority, he apparently doesn’t even know what docs he had kept or where they were yet there wasn’t a peep about national security issues like there were with trump. Is it because they never trust Joe with things of nat’l security or is it because he’s a democrat.
This is just being sanitized, it is in every way as big a problem as trumps was/is.
Trust me, man. Don't get your hopes up. This isn't going to turn out the way you'd like. I would refer you to a reputable news organization. This whole situation just shows the world how a normal president is supposed to handle things and how Trump handles things. Sorry.
there’s reports out that these docs were classified such that they could only be viewed in a SCIF- meaning no one had permission to remove them. I’m not going all anti trump style and saying they were nuke codes lol, but we do know they are about Ukraine and Iran.
Like I said, stark contrast in the right way and the Trump way of handling things. Good for everyone to see.
The fact is that in one case trump was a douche, had docs that everyone knew he had (they were being protected) but wouldn’t turn them over. Trump unfortunately for those who hate him, had the power to declassify absolutely anything. So anyone who tries to make a crime out of possession is going to come up against the airtight defense of “I declassified everything I removed to Mar A Lago.” That’s why he hasn’t been charged- leaving the accusation in the air is FAR more valuable than a prosecution that would surely end in his favor.
on the other hand you have a vice president who had no authority to possess classified documents so he’s already looking at the slammer, and don’t expect Barry to step forward and announce that he declassified them, the two don’t like each other.
VP’s only have secret service protection for a few months after they leave office vs trump who has it for life. So the docs found in Delaware were unsecured from sometime in 2017 to when he become president around late January 2021.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Don’t be sorry. Criminal intent is notoriously nearly impossible to prove. Having illegal items in your possession, however, regardless of how sorry you are, is a very different situation.The Juggler said:
Sorry man. You have this wrong. Please refer to a reputable news source. I asked you to do this before when you were spouting nonsense about the Durham stuff. You're just continually setting yourself up for disappointment.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Don’t be sorry. You’re acting like if Trump had been seriously concerned about the documents and just turned them over it would have been a non issue. Lmao, no. It wouldn’t have ended there.The Juggler said:"The problem is that no one cares how it was handled, that’s silly and for media presentation." LOL. What?
The entire republican party is demanding a raid of Biden's house. The reason that will not happen is because Biden and his lawyers handled the documents properly once they were discovered. In contrast, Trump lied about having waaaay more. And then he refused to turn them over even after a subpoena. Those are facts and that is criminal behavior, friend. He had well over a year to handle this the right way and refused. Being a "douche" isn't an excuse. Sorry.
Had trump returned the documents when he was asked to do so, he likely wouldn't be in any trouble. We may likely have never known about it. Instead, he lied about having them and refused to return them, despite receiving a subpoena and that is why his resort home was raided. His actions imply criminal intent.
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Absolutely. That is how the system is supposed to work.Halifax2TheMax said:
Would you agree with both Brandon and POOTWH being investigated and if a grand jury determines a crime had been committed, for them both to be tried, and if convicted, suffer whatever penalty the law and circumstances allow? Would you settle for that?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Well we can be sure, unlike during bull durhams probe, and more like a democrat probe like Mueller, there’ll be a few leaks a week for us to enjoy!Halifax2TheMax said:
You should get off the pipe. Or call Bull Durham. He’ll get to the bottom of it.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
The problem is that no one cares how it was handled, that’s silly and for media presentation.The Juggler said:
I'm not confused. Even Trump said last summer that sometimes classified documents get mixed into personal belongings. What's good is the president and his lawyers did the right thing and alerted the far left communist group known as the National Archives right away. What would have been bad is to not say anything, or lie about having them, or refusing to return them because, ya know, that could imply criminal intent.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Don’t be sorry. I’m as confused as you are. I mean, it doesn’t add up. Somehow the receipts of him having these docs was leaked because they popped up somewhere where they couldn’t be kept quiet anymore. He had them for 6 years and no one cared. Then suddenly his lawyers go digging through the stuff in an old office he hadn’t been in in years and turned them over so he could be viewed as the good guy? Too weird. They prob would have just shredded the damn things if it hadnt come out somewhere bad that he had them.The Juggler said:
Ummm, no.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:Another difference -
with trump there was a list. The SS and FBI and archives all knew what he had, where it was, and that the secret service was providing security for it. With the Big Guy, the docs seem to be wherever he last dropped them. He never had declassification authority, he apparently doesn’t even know what docs he had kept or where they were yet there wasn’t a peep about national security issues like there were with trump. Is it because they never trust Joe with things of nat’l security or is it because he’s a democrat.
This is just being sanitized, it is in every way as big a problem as trumps was/is.
Trust me, man. Don't get your hopes up. This isn't going to turn out the way you'd like. I would refer you to a reputable news organization. This whole situation just shows the world how a normal president is supposed to handle things and how Trump handles things. Sorry.
there’s reports out that these docs were classified such that they could only be viewed in a SCIF- meaning no one had permission to remove them. I’m not going all anti trump style and saying they were nuke codes lol, but we do know they are about Ukraine and Iran.
Like I said, stark contrast in the right way and the Trump way of handling things. Good for everyone to see.
The fact is that in one case trump was a douche, had docs that everyone knew he had (they were being protected) but wouldn’t turn them over. Trump unfortunately for those who hate him, had the power to declassify absolutely anything. So anyone who tries to make a crime out of possession is going to come up against the airtight defense of “I declassified everything I removed to Mar A Lago.” That’s why he hasn’t been charged- leaving the accusation in the air is FAR more valuable than a prosecution that would surely end in his favor.
on the other hand you have a vice president who had no authority to possess classified documents so he’s already looking at the slammer, and don’t expect Barry to step forward and announce that he declassified them, the two don’t like each other.
VP’s only have secret service protection for a few months after they leave office vs trump who has it for life. So the docs found in Delaware were unsecured from sometime in 2017 to when he become president around late January 2021.I'm like an opening band for your mom.0 -
And yet you’re making excuses for POOTWH, making claims that are not accurate in his defence and were mostly silent on here during the Mar-I-Lieo storm trooper raid, confiscation and panty sniffing. Why is that?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Absolutely. That is how the system is supposed to work.Halifax2TheMax said:
Would you agree with both Brandon and POOTWH being investigated and if a grand jury determines a crime had been committed, for them both to be tried, and if convicted, suffer whatever penalty the law and circumstances allow? Would you settle for that?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Well we can be sure, unlike during bull durhams probe, and more like a democrat probe like Mueller, there’ll be a few leaks a week for us to enjoy!Halifax2TheMax said:
You should get off the pipe. Or call Bull Durham. He’ll get to the bottom of it.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
The problem is that no one cares how it was handled, that’s silly and for media presentation.The Juggler said:
I'm not confused. Even Trump said last summer that sometimes classified documents get mixed into personal belongings. What's good is the president and his lawyers did the right thing and alerted the far left communist group known as the National Archives right away. What would have been bad is to not say anything, or lie about having them, or refusing to return them because, ya know, that could imply criminal intent.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Don’t be sorry. I’m as confused as you are. I mean, it doesn’t add up. Somehow the receipts of him having these docs was leaked because they popped up somewhere where they couldn’t be kept quiet anymore. He had them for 6 years and no one cared. Then suddenly his lawyers go digging through the stuff in an old office he hadn’t been in in years and turned them over so he could be viewed as the good guy? Too weird. They prob would have just shredded the damn things if it hadnt come out somewhere bad that he had them.The Juggler said:
Ummm, no.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:Another difference -
with trump there was a list. The SS and FBI and archives all knew what he had, where it was, and that the secret service was providing security for it. With the Big Guy, the docs seem to be wherever he last dropped them. He never had declassification authority, he apparently doesn’t even know what docs he had kept or where they were yet there wasn’t a peep about national security issues like there were with trump. Is it because they never trust Joe with things of nat’l security or is it because he’s a democrat.
This is just being sanitized, it is in every way as big a problem as trumps was/is.
Trust me, man. Don't get your hopes up. This isn't going to turn out the way you'd like. I would refer you to a reputable news organization. This whole situation just shows the world how a normal president is supposed to handle things and how Trump handles things. Sorry.
there’s reports out that these docs were classified such that they could only be viewed in a SCIF- meaning no one had permission to remove them. I’m not going all anti trump style and saying they were nuke codes lol, but we do know they are about Ukraine and Iran.
Like I said, stark contrast in the right way and the Trump way of handling things. Good for everyone to see.
The fact is that in one case trump was a douche, had docs that everyone knew he had (they were being protected) but wouldn’t turn them over. Trump unfortunately for those who hate him, had the power to declassify absolutely anything. So anyone who tries to make a crime out of possession is going to come up against the airtight defense of “I declassified everything I removed to Mar A Lago.” That’s why he hasn’t been charged- leaving the accusation in the air is FAR more valuable than a prosecution that would surely end in his favor.
on the other hand you have a vice president who had no authority to possess classified documents so he’s already looking at the slammer, and don’t expect Barry to step forward and announce that he declassified them, the two don’t like each other.
VP’s only have secret service protection for a few months after they leave office vs trump who has it for life. So the docs found in Delaware were unsecured from sometime in 2017 to when he become president around late January 2021.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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So what? You asked me a question and I answered it. I can come on here when I want to, and haven’t had the time for ages until about a week ago. Finally hired some folks so I’m not working 80 hour weeks currently anymore.Halifax2TheMax said:
And yet you’re making excuses for POOTWH, making claims that are not accurate in his defence and were mostly silent on here during the Mar-I-Lieo storm trooper raid, confiscation and panty sniffing. Why is that?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Absolutely. That is how the system is supposed to work.Halifax2TheMax said:
Would you agree with both Brandon and POOTWH being investigated and if a grand jury determines a crime had been committed, for them both to be tried, and if convicted, suffer whatever penalty the law and circumstances allow? Would you settle for that?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Well we can be sure, unlike during bull durhams probe, and more like a democrat probe like Mueller, there’ll be a few leaks a week for us to enjoy!Halifax2TheMax said:
You should get off the pipe. Or call Bull Durham. He’ll get to the bottom of it.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
The problem is that no one cares how it was handled, that’s silly and for media presentation.The Juggler said:
I'm not confused. Even Trump said last summer that sometimes classified documents get mixed into personal belongings. What's good is the president and his lawyers did the right thing and alerted the far left communist group known as the National Archives right away. What would have been bad is to not say anything, or lie about having them, or refusing to return them because, ya know, that could imply criminal intent.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Don’t be sorry. I’m as confused as you are. I mean, it doesn’t add up. Somehow the receipts of him having these docs was leaked because they popped up somewhere where they couldn’t be kept quiet anymore. He had them for 6 years and no one cared. Then suddenly his lawyers go digging through the stuff in an old office he hadn’t been in in years and turned them over so he could be viewed as the good guy? Too weird. They prob would have just shredded the damn things if it hadnt come out somewhere bad that he had them.The Juggler said:
Ummm, no.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:Another difference -
with trump there was a list. The SS and FBI and archives all knew what he had, where it was, and that the secret service was providing security for it. With the Big Guy, the docs seem to be wherever he last dropped them. He never had declassification authority, he apparently doesn’t even know what docs he had kept or where they were yet there wasn’t a peep about national security issues like there were with trump. Is it because they never trust Joe with things of nat’l security or is it because he’s a democrat.
This is just being sanitized, it is in every way as big a problem as trumps was/is.
Trust me, man. Don't get your hopes up. This isn't going to turn out the way you'd like. I would refer you to a reputable news organization. This whole situation just shows the world how a normal president is supposed to handle things and how Trump handles things. Sorry.
there’s reports out that these docs were classified such that they could only be viewed in a SCIF- meaning no one had permission to remove them. I’m not going all anti trump style and saying they were nuke codes lol, but we do know they are about Ukraine and Iran.
Like I said, stark contrast in the right way and the Trump way of handling things. Good for everyone to see.
The fact is that in one case trump was a douche, had docs that everyone knew he had (they were being protected) but wouldn’t turn them over. Trump unfortunately for those who hate him, had the power to declassify absolutely anything. So anyone who tries to make a crime out of possession is going to come up against the airtight defense of “I declassified everything I removed to Mar A Lago.” That’s why he hasn’t been charged- leaving the accusation in the air is FAR more valuable than a prosecution that would surely end in his favor.
on the other hand you have a vice president who had no authority to possess classified documents so he’s already looking at the slammer, and don’t expect Barry to step forward and announce that he declassified them, the two don’t like each other.
VP’s only have secret service protection for a few months after they leave office vs trump who has it for life. So the docs found in Delaware were unsecured from sometime in 2017 to when he become president around late January 2021.I'm like an opening band for your mom.0 -
Gosh. I suspect you would've been here quite often over the last three months had the midterms gone as you were so sure they would. lol.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
So what? You asked me a question and I answered it. I can come on here when I want to, and haven’t had the time for ages until about a week ago. Finally hired some folks so I’m not working 80 hour weeks currently anymore.Halifax2TheMax said:
And yet you’re making excuses for POOTWH, making claims that are not accurate in his defence and were mostly silent on here during the Mar-I-Lieo storm trooper raid, confiscation and panty sniffing. Why is that?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Absolutely. That is how the system is supposed to work.Halifax2TheMax said:
Would you agree with both Brandon and POOTWH being investigated and if a grand jury determines a crime had been committed, for them both to be tried, and if convicted, suffer whatever penalty the law and circumstances allow? Would you settle for that?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Well we can be sure, unlike during bull durhams probe, and more like a democrat probe like Mueller, there’ll be a few leaks a week for us to enjoy!Halifax2TheMax said:
You should get off the pipe. Or call Bull Durham. He’ll get to the bottom of it.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
The problem is that no one cares how it was handled, that’s silly and for media presentation.The Juggler said:
I'm not confused. Even Trump said last summer that sometimes classified documents get mixed into personal belongings. What's good is the president and his lawyers did the right thing and alerted the far left communist group known as the National Archives right away. What would have been bad is to not say anything, or lie about having them, or refusing to return them because, ya know, that could imply criminal intent.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Don’t be sorry. I’m as confused as you are. I mean, it doesn’t add up. Somehow the receipts of him having these docs was leaked because they popped up somewhere where they couldn’t be kept quiet anymore. He had them for 6 years and no one cared. Then suddenly his lawyers go digging through the stuff in an old office he hadn’t been in in years and turned them over so he could be viewed as the good guy? Too weird. They prob would have just shredded the damn things if it hadnt come out somewhere bad that he had them.The Juggler said:
Ummm, no.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:Another difference -
with trump there was a list. The SS and FBI and archives all knew what he had, where it was, and that the secret service was providing security for it. With the Big Guy, the docs seem to be wherever he last dropped them. He never had declassification authority, he apparently doesn’t even know what docs he had kept or where they were yet there wasn’t a peep about national security issues like there were with trump. Is it because they never trust Joe with things of nat’l security or is it because he’s a democrat.
This is just being sanitized, it is in every way as big a problem as trumps was/is.
Trust me, man. Don't get your hopes up. This isn't going to turn out the way you'd like. I would refer you to a reputable news organization. This whole situation just shows the world how a normal president is supposed to handle things and how Trump handles things. Sorry.
there’s reports out that these docs were classified such that they could only be viewed in a SCIF- meaning no one had permission to remove them. I’m not going all anti trump style and saying they were nuke codes lol, but we do know they are about Ukraine and Iran.
Like I said, stark contrast in the right way and the Trump way of handling things. Good for everyone to see.
The fact is that in one case trump was a douche, had docs that everyone knew he had (they were being protected) but wouldn’t turn them over. Trump unfortunately for those who hate him, had the power to declassify absolutely anything. So anyone who tries to make a crime out of possession is going to come up against the airtight defense of “I declassified everything I removed to Mar A Lago.” That’s why he hasn’t been charged- leaving the accusation in the air is FAR more valuable than a prosecution that would surely end in his favor.
on the other hand you have a vice president who had no authority to possess classified documents so he’s already looking at the slammer, and don’t expect Barry to step forward and announce that he declassified them, the two don’t like each other.
VP’s only have secret service protection for a few months after they leave office vs trump who has it for life. So the docs found in Delaware were unsecured from sometime in 2017 to when he become president around late January 2021.
Get some sleep my friend. You seem more razzled than usual today.Post edited by The Juggler onwww.myspace.com0 -
Nah, I think I stopped in a few times in the last several months on the tenth in case I had to blow cash on something to store in a box in my garage. Definitely didn’t come to amt. As far as the midterms went though, I wasn’t let down. I would have liked to see Kerri lake win, she’s fun and a real fire cracker. I live in Texas, everything here worked as I had expected. After Biden won in 2020 I’ve really tempered my national expectationsThe Juggler said:
Gosh. I suspect you would've been here quite often over the last three months had the midterms gone as you were so sure they would. lol.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
So what? You asked me a question and I answered it. I can come on here when I want to, and haven’t had the time for ages until about a week ago. Finally hired some folks so I’m not working 80 hour weeks currently anymore.Halifax2TheMax said:
And yet you’re making excuses for POOTWH, making claims that are not accurate in his defence and were mostly silent on here during the Mar-I-Lieo storm trooper raid, confiscation and panty sniffing. Why is that?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Absolutely. That is how the system is supposed to work.Halifax2TheMax said:
Would you agree with both Brandon and POOTWH being investigated and if a grand jury determines a crime had been committed, for them both to be tried, and if convicted, suffer whatever penalty the law and circumstances allow? Would you settle for that?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Well we can be sure, unlike during bull durhams probe, and more like a democrat probe like Mueller, there’ll be a few leaks a week for us to enjoy!Halifax2TheMax said:
You should get off the pipe. Or call Bull Durham. He’ll get to the bottom of it.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
The problem is that no one cares how it was handled, that’s silly and for media presentation.The Juggler said:
I'm not confused. Even Trump said last summer that sometimes classified documents get mixed into personal belongings. What's good is the president and his lawyers did the right thing and alerted the far left communist group known as the National Archives right away. What would have been bad is to not say anything, or lie about having them, or refusing to return them because, ya know, that could imply criminal intent.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Don’t be sorry. I’m as confused as you are. I mean, it doesn’t add up. Somehow the receipts of him having these docs was leaked because they popped up somewhere where they couldn’t be kept quiet anymore. He had them for 6 years and no one cared. Then suddenly his lawyers go digging through the stuff in an old office he hadn’t been in in years and turned them over so he could be viewed as the good guy? Too weird. They prob would have just shredded the damn things if it hadnt come out somewhere bad that he had them.The Juggler said:
Ummm, no.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:Another difference -
with trump there was a list. The SS and FBI and archives all knew what he had, where it was, and that the secret service was providing security for it. With the Big Guy, the docs seem to be wherever he last dropped them. He never had declassification authority, he apparently doesn’t even know what docs he had kept or where they were yet there wasn’t a peep about national security issues like there were with trump. Is it because they never trust Joe with things of nat’l security or is it because he’s a democrat.
This is just being sanitized, it is in every way as big a problem as trumps was/is.
Trust me, man. Don't get your hopes up. This isn't going to turn out the way you'd like. I would refer you to a reputable news organization. This whole situation just shows the world how a normal president is supposed to handle things and how Trump handles things. Sorry.
there’s reports out that these docs were classified such that they could only be viewed in a SCIF- meaning no one had permission to remove them. I’m not going all anti trump style and saying they were nuke codes lol, but we do know they are about Ukraine and Iran.
Like I said, stark contrast in the right way and the Trump way of handling things. Good for everyone to see.
The fact is that in one case trump was a douche, had docs that everyone knew he had (they were being protected) but wouldn’t turn them over. Trump unfortunately for those who hate him, had the power to declassify absolutely anything. So anyone who tries to make a crime out of possession is going to come up against the airtight defense of “I declassified everything I removed to Mar A Lago.” That’s why he hasn’t been charged- leaving the accusation in the air is FAR more valuable than a prosecution that would surely end in his favor.
on the other hand you have a vice president who had no authority to possess classified documents so he’s already looking at the slammer, and don’t expect Barry to step forward and announce that he declassified them, the two don’t like each other.
VP’s only have secret service protection for a few months after they leave office vs trump who has it for life. So the docs found in Delaware were unsecured from sometime in 2017 to when he become president around late January 2021.
Get some sleep my friend. You seem more razzled than usual today.I'm like an opening band for your mom.0 -
Why’d you edit out the pizza comment?The Juggler said:
Gosh. I suspect you would've been here quite often over the last three months had the midterms gone as you were so sure they would. lol.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
So what? You asked me a question and I answered it. I can come on here when I want to, and haven’t had the time for ages until about a week ago. Finally hired some folks so I’m not working 80 hour weeks currently anymore.Halifax2TheMax said:
And yet you’re making excuses for POOTWH, making claims that are not accurate in his defence and were mostly silent on here during the Mar-I-Lieo storm trooper raid, confiscation and panty sniffing. Why is that?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Absolutely. That is how the system is supposed to work.Halifax2TheMax said:
Would you agree with both Brandon and POOTWH being investigated and if a grand jury determines a crime had been committed, for them both to be tried, and if convicted, suffer whatever penalty the law and circumstances allow? Would you settle for that?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Well we can be sure, unlike during bull durhams probe, and more like a democrat probe like Mueller, there’ll be a few leaks a week for us to enjoy!Halifax2TheMax said:
You should get off the pipe. Or call Bull Durham. He’ll get to the bottom of it.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
The problem is that no one cares how it was handled, that’s silly and for media presentation.The Juggler said:
I'm not confused. Even Trump said last summer that sometimes classified documents get mixed into personal belongings. What's good is the president and his lawyers did the right thing and alerted the far left communist group known as the National Archives right away. What would have been bad is to not say anything, or lie about having them, or refusing to return them because, ya know, that could imply criminal intent.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Don’t be sorry. I’m as confused as you are. I mean, it doesn’t add up. Somehow the receipts of him having these docs was leaked because they popped up somewhere where they couldn’t be kept quiet anymore. He had them for 6 years and no one cared. Then suddenly his lawyers go digging through the stuff in an old office he hadn’t been in in years and turned them over so he could be viewed as the good guy? Too weird. They prob would have just shredded the damn things if it hadnt come out somewhere bad that he had them.The Juggler said:
Ummm, no.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:Another difference -
with trump there was a list. The SS and FBI and archives all knew what he had, where it was, and that the secret service was providing security for it. With the Big Guy, the docs seem to be wherever he last dropped them. He never had declassification authority, he apparently doesn’t even know what docs he had kept or where they were yet there wasn’t a peep about national security issues like there were with trump. Is it because they never trust Joe with things of nat’l security or is it because he’s a democrat.
This is just being sanitized, it is in every way as big a problem as trumps was/is.
Trust me, man. Don't get your hopes up. This isn't going to turn out the way you'd like. I would refer you to a reputable news organization. This whole situation just shows the world how a normal president is supposed to handle things and how Trump handles things. Sorry.
there’s reports out that these docs were classified such that they could only be viewed in a SCIF- meaning no one had permission to remove them. I’m not going all anti trump style and saying they were nuke codes lol, but we do know they are about Ukraine and Iran.
Like I said, stark contrast in the right way and the Trump way of handling things. Good for everyone to see.
The fact is that in one case trump was a douche, had docs that everyone knew he had (they were being protected) but wouldn’t turn them over. Trump unfortunately for those who hate him, had the power to declassify absolutely anything. So anyone who tries to make a crime out of possession is going to come up against the airtight defense of “I declassified everything I removed to Mar A Lago.” That’s why he hasn’t been charged- leaving the accusation in the air is FAR more valuable than a prosecution that would surely end in his favor.
on the other hand you have a vice president who had no authority to possess classified documents so he’s already looking at the slammer, and don’t expect Barry to step forward and announce that he declassified them, the two don’t like each other.
VP’s only have secret service protection for a few months after they leave office vs trump who has it for life. So the docs found in Delaware were unsecured from sometime in 2017 to when he become president around late January 2021.
Get some sleep my friend. You seem more razzled than usual today.I'm like an opening band for your mom.0 -
Making excuses and making shit up, so what? The inability to see why the two individuals and the circumstances involved are vastly different, so what? Ya know, I once had a boss tell me that if you need/have to work more than 40 hours a week, you’re doing something wrong. But to my first two points, this is why ‘Murica is fucked.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
So what? You asked me a question and I answered it. I can come on here when I want to, and haven’t had the time for ages until about a week ago. Finally hired some folks so I’m not working 80 hour weeks currently anymore.Halifax2TheMax said:
And yet you’re making excuses for POOTWH, making claims that are not accurate in his defence and were mostly silent on here during the Mar-I-Lieo storm trooper raid, confiscation and panty sniffing. Why is that?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Absolutely. That is how the system is supposed to work.Halifax2TheMax said:
Would you agree with both Brandon and POOTWH being investigated and if a grand jury determines a crime had been committed, for them both to be tried, and if convicted, suffer whatever penalty the law and circumstances allow? Would you settle for that?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Well we can be sure, unlike during bull durhams probe, and more like a democrat probe like Mueller, there’ll be a few leaks a week for us to enjoy!Halifax2TheMax said:
You should get off the pipe. Or call Bull Durham. He’ll get to the bottom of it.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
The problem is that no one cares how it was handled, that’s silly and for media presentation.The Juggler said:
I'm not confused. Even Trump said last summer that sometimes classified documents get mixed into personal belongings. What's good is the president and his lawyers did the right thing and alerted the far left communist group known as the National Archives right away. What would have been bad is to not say anything, or lie about having them, or refusing to return them because, ya know, that could imply criminal intent.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Don’t be sorry. I’m as confused as you are. I mean, it doesn’t add up. Somehow the receipts of him having these docs was leaked because they popped up somewhere where they couldn’t be kept quiet anymore. He had them for 6 years and no one cared. Then suddenly his lawyers go digging through the stuff in an old office he hadn’t been in in years and turned them over so he could be viewed as the good guy? Too weird. They prob would have just shredded the damn things if it hadnt come out somewhere bad that he had them.The Juggler said:
Ummm, no.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:Another difference -
with trump there was a list. The SS and FBI and archives all knew what he had, where it was, and that the secret service was providing security for it. With the Big Guy, the docs seem to be wherever he last dropped them. He never had declassification authority, he apparently doesn’t even know what docs he had kept or where they were yet there wasn’t a peep about national security issues like there were with trump. Is it because they never trust Joe with things of nat’l security or is it because he’s a democrat.
This is just being sanitized, it is in every way as big a problem as trumps was/is.
Trust me, man. Don't get your hopes up. This isn't going to turn out the way you'd like. I would refer you to a reputable news organization. This whole situation just shows the world how a normal president is supposed to handle things and how Trump handles things. Sorry.
there’s reports out that these docs were classified such that they could only be viewed in a SCIF- meaning no one had permission to remove them. I’m not going all anti trump style and saying they were nuke codes lol, but we do know they are about Ukraine and Iran.
Like I said, stark contrast in the right way and the Trump way of handling things. Good for everyone to see.
The fact is that in one case trump was a douche, had docs that everyone knew he had (they were being protected) but wouldn’t turn them over. Trump unfortunately for those who hate him, had the power to declassify absolutely anything. So anyone who tries to make a crime out of possession is going to come up against the airtight defense of “I declassified everything I removed to Mar A Lago.” That’s why he hasn’t been charged- leaving the accusation in the air is FAR more valuable than a prosecution that would surely end in his favor.
on the other hand you have a vice president who had no authority to possess classified documents so he’s already looking at the slammer, and don’t expect Barry to step forward and announce that he declassified them, the two don’t like each other.
VP’s only have secret service protection for a few months after they leave office vs trump who has it for life. So the docs found in Delaware were unsecured from sometime in 2017 to when he become president around late January 2021.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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making shit up. You mean like Russia Dillusion? Lol, if I wanted to talk about trump I’d probably post in the trump thread. There is one, you know- you can go post there if you choose to. We’re in the Pudding thread. This is the thread where we’re talking about the guy who called Trump irresponsible for having classified documents at Mar A Lago which were protected by secret service agents while he then had them in his own garage the whole time.Halifax2TheMax said:
Making excuses and making shit up, so what? The inability to see why the two individuals and the circumstances involved are vastly different, so what? Ya know, I once had a boss tell me that if you need/have to work more than 40 hours a week, you’re doing something wrong. But to my first two points, this is why ‘Murica is fucked.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
So what? You asked me a question and I answered it. I can come on here when I want to, and haven’t had the time for ages until about a week ago. Finally hired some folks so I’m not working 80 hour weeks currently anymore.Halifax2TheMax said:
And yet you’re making excuses for POOTWH, making claims that are not accurate in his defence and were mostly silent on here during the Mar-I-Lieo storm trooper raid, confiscation and panty sniffing. Why is that?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Absolutely. That is how the system is supposed to work.Halifax2TheMax said:
Would you agree with both Brandon and POOTWH being investigated and if a grand jury determines a crime had been committed, for them both to be tried, and if convicted, suffer whatever penalty the law and circumstances allow? Would you settle for that?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Well we can be sure, unlike during bull durhams probe, and more like a democrat probe like Mueller, there’ll be a few leaks a week for us to enjoy!Halifax2TheMax said:
You should get off the pipe. Or call Bull Durham. He’ll get to the bottom of it.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
The problem is that no one cares how it was handled, that’s silly and for media presentation.The Juggler said:
I'm not confused. Even Trump said last summer that sometimes classified documents get mixed into personal belongings. What's good is the president and his lawyers did the right thing and alerted the far left communist group known as the National Archives right away. What would have been bad is to not say anything, or lie about having them, or refusing to return them because, ya know, that could imply criminal intent.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Don’t be sorry. I’m as confused as you are. I mean, it doesn’t add up. Somehow the receipts of him having these docs was leaked because they popped up somewhere where they couldn’t be kept quiet anymore. He had them for 6 years and no one cared. Then suddenly his lawyers go digging through the stuff in an old office he hadn’t been in in years and turned them over so he could be viewed as the good guy? Too weird. They prob would have just shredded the damn things if it hadnt come out somewhere bad that he had them.The Juggler said:
Ummm, no.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:Another difference -
with trump there was a list. The SS and FBI and archives all knew what he had, where it was, and that the secret service was providing security for it. With the Big Guy, the docs seem to be wherever he last dropped them. He never had declassification authority, he apparently doesn’t even know what docs he had kept or where they were yet there wasn’t a peep about national security issues like there were with trump. Is it because they never trust Joe with things of nat’l security or is it because he’s a democrat.
This is just being sanitized, it is in every way as big a problem as trumps was/is.
Trust me, man. Don't get your hopes up. This isn't going to turn out the way you'd like. I would refer you to a reputable news organization. This whole situation just shows the world how a normal president is supposed to handle things and how Trump handles things. Sorry.
there’s reports out that these docs were classified such that they could only be viewed in a SCIF- meaning no one had permission to remove them. I’m not going all anti trump style and saying they were nuke codes lol, but we do know they are about Ukraine and Iran.
Like I said, stark contrast in the right way and the Trump way of handling things. Good for everyone to see.
The fact is that in one case trump was a douche, had docs that everyone knew he had (they were being protected) but wouldn’t turn them over. Trump unfortunately for those who hate him, had the power to declassify absolutely anything. So anyone who tries to make a crime out of possession is going to come up against the airtight defense of “I declassified everything I removed to Mar A Lago.” That’s why he hasn’t been charged- leaving the accusation in the air is FAR more valuable than a prosecution that would surely end in his favor.
on the other hand you have a vice president who had no authority to possess classified documents so he’s already looking at the slammer, and don’t expect Barry to step forward and announce that he declassified them, the two don’t like each other.
VP’s only have secret service protection for a few months after they leave office vs trump who has it for life. So the docs found in Delaware were unsecured from sometime in 2017 to when he become president around late January 2021.I'm like an opening band for your mom.0 -
You guys always go personal don’t you? Can’t you have a conversation without deleting comments and making things personal?I'm like an opening band for your mom.0
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For starters, you incorrectly, in your defence of POOTWH in this very thread, claimed POOTWH could and did declassify the documents found at Mar-I-Lieo. However, it requires a documented process and the agency that produced the document to sign off on it. None of which happened. You also claimed that “we’re just finding out about this now” despite the National Archives letting us know 9 months after POOTWH returned documents that they knew he had and yet we knew about Brandon’s documents within 2 months of Brandon’s attorneys notifying the DOJ. You also tried to same/same the circumstances by claiming that the document found most recently in Brandon’s garage is comparative to those at Mar-I-Lieo. They’re not even close, as what was found in Brandon’s garage amounted to 1 page and didn’t require a subpoena versus 100s of documents of multiple pages found after National Archive requests were ignored, POOTWH attorneys, under perjury, signed off on having turned everything over and an FBI raid to retrieve the stolen top secret documents.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
making shit up. You mean like Russia Dillusion? Lol, if I wanted to talk about trump I’d probably post in the trump thread. There is one, you know- you can go post there if you choose to. We’re in the Pudding thread. This is the thread where we’re talking about the guy who called Trump irresponsible for having classified documents at Mar A Lago which were protected by secret service agents while he then had them in his own garage the whole time.Halifax2TheMax said:
Making excuses and making shit up, so what? The inability to see why the two individuals and the circumstances involved are vastly different, so what? Ya know, I once had a boss tell me that if you need/have to work more than 40 hours a week, you’re doing something wrong. But to my first two points, this is why ‘Murica is fucked.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
So what? You asked me a question and I answered it. I can come on here when I want to, and haven’t had the time for ages until about a week ago. Finally hired some folks so I’m not working 80 hour weeks currently anymore.Halifax2TheMax said:
And yet you’re making excuses for POOTWH, making claims that are not accurate in his defence and were mostly silent on here during the Mar-I-Lieo storm trooper raid, confiscation and panty sniffing. Why is that?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Absolutely. That is how the system is supposed to work.Halifax2TheMax said:
Would you agree with both Brandon and POOTWH being investigated and if a grand jury determines a crime had been committed, for them both to be tried, and if convicted, suffer whatever penalty the law and circumstances allow? Would you settle for that?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Well we can be sure, unlike during bull durhams probe, and more like a democrat probe like Mueller, there’ll be a few leaks a week for us to enjoy!Halifax2TheMax said:
You should get off the pipe. Or call Bull Durham. He’ll get to the bottom of it.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
The problem is that no one cares how it was handled, that’s silly and for media presentation.The Juggler said:
I'm not confused. Even Trump said last summer that sometimes classified documents get mixed into personal belongings. What's good is the president and his lawyers did the right thing and alerted the far left communist group known as the National Archives right away. What would have been bad is to not say anything, or lie about having them, or refusing to return them because, ya know, that could imply criminal intent.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Don’t be sorry. I’m as confused as you are. I mean, it doesn’t add up. Somehow the receipts of him having these docs was leaked because they popped up somewhere where they couldn’t be kept quiet anymore. He had them for 6 years and no one cared. Then suddenly his lawyers go digging through the stuff in an old office he hadn’t been in in years and turned them over so he could be viewed as the good guy? Too weird. They prob would have just shredded the damn things if it hadnt come out somewhere bad that he had them.The Juggler said:
Ummm, no.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:Another difference -
with trump there was a list. The SS and FBI and archives all knew what he had, where it was, and that the secret service was providing security for it. With the Big Guy, the docs seem to be wherever he last dropped them. He never had declassification authority, he apparently doesn’t even know what docs he had kept or where they were yet there wasn’t a peep about national security issues like there were with trump. Is it because they never trust Joe with things of nat’l security or is it because he’s a democrat.
This is just being sanitized, it is in every way as big a problem as trumps was/is.
Trust me, man. Don't get your hopes up. This isn't going to turn out the way you'd like. I would refer you to a reputable news organization. This whole situation just shows the world how a normal president is supposed to handle things and how Trump handles things. Sorry.
there’s reports out that these docs were classified such that they could only be viewed in a SCIF- meaning no one had permission to remove them. I’m not going all anti trump style and saying they were nuke codes lol, but we do know they are about Ukraine and Iran.
Like I said, stark contrast in the right way and the Trump way of handling things. Good for everyone to see.
The fact is that in one case trump was a douche, had docs that everyone knew he had (they were being protected) but wouldn’t turn them over. Trump unfortunately for those who hate him, had the power to declassify absolutely anything. So anyone who tries to make a crime out of possession is going to come up against the airtight defense of “I declassified everything I removed to Mar A Lago.” That’s why he hasn’t been charged- leaving the accusation in the air is FAR more valuable than a prosecution that would surely end in his favor.
on the other hand you have a vice president who had no authority to possess classified documents so he’s already looking at the slammer, and don’t expect Barry to step forward and announce that he declassified them, the two don’t like each other.
VP’s only have secret service protection for a few months after they leave office vs trump who has it for life. So the docs found in Delaware were unsecured from sometime in 2017 to when he become president around late January 2021.
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