Also I saw polling last night that said any generic younger Democrat wipes the floor with Trump in swing state after swing state....
I believe it. There was a poll saying 62% of Americans think they are both too old and suck. At this point, we just need to be younger and suck slightly less.
Also I saw polling last night that said any generic younger Democrat wipes the floor with Trump in swing state after swing state....
I believe it. There was a poll saying 62% of Americans think they are both too old and suck. At this point, we just need to be younger and suck slightly less.
I agree. Trump is a fucking horrific candidate--historically bad....we just need someone who can articulate that clearly and enthusiastically. Joe can't do that anymore.
Putting Harris up there....especially contrasting it with the dumb Vance pick and his crazy views on abortion.....it is go time.
I’d love to see Harris/Buttigieg or Harris/Raimondo. But I’ll vote for Brandon or the empty chair and unfortunately don’t see any of it making a difference. ‘Murica wants a dicktator. And not even a big un.
Could it be Harris/Newsom or would that be a conflict in the same state that a Trump/Rubio would've been?
.I suppose it could. But she could simply change her address to DC and remove that risk. That's what Cheney did in 2000 when his previous address was in Texas. It's a quirk but it brings up a moderate risk. Considering Harris is the VP, her previous representation of CA in the senate doesn't matter. Her address is probably DC now, simply for tax reasons.
I think Harris/Shapiro would give them their best shot. Shapiro's been awesome in PA....and obviously that state could swing the whole thing.
Harris/Shapiro would be great! A black woman and a Jew. They keep Buttigieg (spelling?) in a prominent position we’re covering a bunch of people who’ve been discriminated against their whole lives. The only people they won’t appeal to is cult MAGA and those who are total and complete racists. I’m praying to God that our country can show less than 40% are as horrendous as we think.
Biden looked awful yesterday. But Trump isn’t looking much better. IMO he aged about ten years. I haven’t really seen him happy since the shooting. Imagine thinking the entire country (or at least R) love you, then all of a sudden some young republican man from a MAGA home try’s to kill you, and then you find out another country wants you dead, it’s exactly like the Emperor’s New Clothes.
Could it be Harris/Newsom or would that be a conflict in the same state that a Trump/Rubio would've been?
.I suppose it could. But she could simply change her address to DC and remove that risk. That's what Cheney did in 2000 when his previous address was in Texas. It's a quirk but it brings up a moderate risk. Considering Harris is the VP, her previous representation of CA in the senate doesn't matter. Her address is probably DC now, simply for tax reasons.
I think Harris/Shapiro would give them their best shot. Shapiro's been awesome in PA....and obviously that state could swing the whole thing.
Harris/Shapiro would be great! A black woman and a Jew. They keep Buttigieg (spelling?) in a prominent position we’re covering a bunch of people who’ve been discriminated against their whole lives. The only people they won’t appeal to is cult MAGA and those who are total and complete racists. I’m praying to God that our country can show less than 40% are as horrendous as we think.
maga's would lose their shit if they lost to that ticket. It has to happen hahaha
Biden looked awful yesterday. But Trump isn’t looking much better. IMO he aged about ten years. I haven’t really seen him happy since the shooting. Imagine thinking the entire country (or at least R) love you, then all of a sudden some young republican man from a MAGA home try’s to kill you, and then you find out another country wants you dead, it’s exactly like the Emperor’s New Clothes.
He’s depressed because he can’t believe not everyone loves him and that one person actually hated him so much that they tried to kill him. His whole reasoning behind why he exists was shattered. Wonder if Ivanka Darlink and Jared Dear Boy even bothered to check in. Haven’t heard or seen much of them lately. Wonder if they’ll be up on that hideous display stage tonight?
Biden looked awful yesterday. But Trump isn’t looking much better. IMO he aged about ten years. I haven’t really seen him happy since the shooting. Imagine thinking the entire country (or at least R) love you, then all of a sudden some young republican man from a MAGA home try’s to kill you, and then you find out another country wants you dead, it’s exactly like the Emperor’s New Clothes.
I wouldn’t be happy either knowing how badly my security detail screwed up and almost cost me my life either.
I remember you said the other day both the shooter’s parents are strong republicans. I’m curious if you actually know that, or just assuming? I read one parent was registered democrat and the other libertarian. I haven’t seen any reports that he came from a MAGA/trump family. And he had googled locations of the DNC, so possibly not just targeting Trump.
The father of 20-year-old would-be Donald Trump assassin Thomas Crooks was previously identified by the former president’s campaign as one of the voters in his area most likely to respond favorably to pro-gun messaging.
The campaign’s private database analyzed 6.7 million people in the Keystone State, a crucial battleground in the race for president, listing Matthew Crooks, a registered Libertarian, as among the top 20 prospects of 19,000 residents in the Pittsburgh suburb of Bethel Park, Channel 4 reported. He scored highly “across a range of gun-related [data] models,” according to the outlet, and was flagged by the Trump team as a voter “who could be susceptible to political messages about gun-rights.”
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Crooks’ mother, a Democrat, was also singled out by Trump’s campaign as a likely gun owner who was potentially receptive to such messaging.
Overall, the Trump campaign ranked roughly 50 million individuals in 10 swing states, using the firearms-specific data models, according to Channel 4, which called the data-ming program “secretive.”
Shooter Thomas Crooks is pictured in a yearbook photo. (AP)
Crooks, a registered Republican who was not an attendee at Saturday’s rally, squeezed off at least eight shots from a nearby rooftop, clipping Trump in the ear. Trump was not seriously wounded, but one spectator was killed and two others critically injured. FBI officials said they were unsure if Crooks’ father had given his son permission to use the firearm, or if he had taken it without the older man’s knowledge.
The family is said to be cooperating with authorities. Shortly after he opened fire, Crooks was shot dead by Secret Service snipers.
Matthew Crooks, a registered Libertarian, in 2013 bought the gun used in Saturday afternoon’s assassination attempt, a person familiar with the investigation told The Washington Post. Crooks purchased 50 rounds of 5.56 ammunition earlier on Saturday, authorities said. A former member of a shooting club in Clairton, Pennsylvania, a teenage Crooks was rejected by his high school’s rifle club for being a “dangerous” shot, according to one former classmate.
Many questions remain unanswered about the shooting, and experts have slammed the Secret Service for not preventing Crooks from posting up on the building, which the feds say was outside the rally perimeter and the responsibility of local cops.
Reached on Sunday by The Independent, Crooks’ uncle Mark said he had “no idea” what his nephew’s motivations for Saturday’s shooting might have been.
It’s funny how MAGA folks can’t wrap their heads around the notion that this kid came from a republican family and tried to kill the Republican nominee! 😜 in their minds it could only be a liberal democrat who’d try such a thing..
Yeah neighbors said that they had tRump signs in their yard, etc.
Doesn't mean the kid put them there of course.
Saw an interesting theory on this kid. Theory is his motive was if he killed Trump he would be forever linked to him (which I guess he is now), like a demented celebrity fan who kills someone he is stalking.
Yeah neighbors said that they had tRump signs in their yard, etc.
Doesn't mean the kid put them there of course.
Saw an interesting theory on this kid. Theory is his motive was if he killed Trump he would be forever linked to him (which I guess he is now), like a demented celebrity fan who kills someone he is stalking.
Like John Lennon's killer, or Sirhan Sirhan. Considering his loneliness and he was bullied, that would not surprise me at all.
Yeah neighbors said that they had tRump signs in their yard, etc.
Doesn't mean the kid put them there of course.
Saw an interesting theory on this kid. Theory is his motive was if he killed Trump he would be forever linked to him (which I guess he is now), like a demented celebrity fan who kills someone he is stalking.
Yeah I saw a few theories that both suggested tRump wasn't far right enough for him. But he supposedly was doing searches on Biden, Garland and the Dem Convention as well.
Maybe tRump was just the most convenient opportunity for him.
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It’s funny how MAGA folks can’t wrap their heads around the notion that this kid came from a republican family and tried to kill the Republican nominee! 😜 in their minds it could only be a liberal democrat who’d try such a thing..
It’s not that. There’s plenty of republicans that don’t like Trump. There’s minimal information being shared. The secret service isn’t sharing much, if anything. The amount of information released seems pretty odd to me. After most publicized mass shootings we know everything about the shooter in about 48 hours.
About the only things I’ve read about him was he’s standoffish, a loner and known for wearing hunting clothes and a Covid mask after the pandemic. If he’s MAGA, he’s the only one who continued to wear a mask.
And the only articles I’ve seen list the parents as registered libertarian and democrat. So I was curious why some were calling the parents MAGA. Being labeled as subjective to gun rights ads in 2016 doesn’t say much. But if they had Trump signs, that does. Its not that they can’t wrap their heads around it, there’s just almost no information coming out.
It’s funny how MAGA folks can’t wrap their heads around the notion that this kid came from a republican family and tried to kill the Republican nominee! 😜 in their minds it could only be a liberal democrat who’d try such a thing..
It’s not that. There’s plenty of republicans that don’t like Trump. There’s minimal information being shared. The secret service isn’t sharing much, if anything. The amount of information released seems pretty odd to me. After most publicized mass shootings we know everything about the shooter in about 48 hours.
About the only things I’ve read about him was he’s standoffish, a loner and known for wearing hunting clothes and a Covid mask after the pandemic. If he’s MAGA, he’s the only one who continued to wear a mask.
And the only articles I’ve seen list the parents as registered libertarian and democrat. So I was curious why some were calling the parents MAGA. Being labeled as subjective to gun rights ads in 2016 doesn’t say much. But if they had Trump signs, that does. Its not that they can’t wrap their heads around it, there’s just almost no information coming out.
Face it, mace, if the kid was a black transgender liberal swimmer, maga would be parading in the streets and jumping up and down for joy and you know it.
They obviously do not know how to grasp the fact that he fits the same profile as just about every mass shooter this country sees everyday: that he's one of them.
Regarding the lack of info...what is strange to me is that Trump's medical team has not said anything. A former president gets shot (supposedly) and the public is not given one piece of information regarding the injury he suffered? I saw one article that said he did not even need stitches, yet he is wearing a tampon sized bandage over his entire ear. Can't wrap my head around it....
It’s funny how MAGA folks can’t wrap their heads around the notion that this kid came from a republican family and tried to kill the Republican nominee! 😜 in their minds it could only be a liberal democrat who’d try such a thing..
It’s not that. There’s plenty of republicans that don’t like Trump. There’s minimal information being shared. The secret service isn’t sharing much, if anything. The amount of information released seems pretty odd to me. After most publicized mass shootings we know everything about the shooter in about 48 hours.
About the only things I’ve read about him was he’s standoffish, a loner and known for wearing hunting clothes and a Covid mask after the pandemic. If he’s MAGA, he’s the only one who continued to wear a mask.
And the only articles I’ve seen list the parents as registered libertarian and democrat. So I was curious why some were calling the parents MAGA. Being labeled as subjective to gun rights ads in 2016 doesn’t say much. But if they had Trump signs, that does. Its not that they can’t wrap their heads around it, there’s just almost no information coming out.
Face it, mace, if the kid was a black transgender liberal swimmer, maga would be parading in the streets and jumping up and down for joy and you know it.
They obviously do not know how to grasp the fact that he fits the same profile as just about every mass shooter this country sees everyday: that he's one of them.
Regarding the lack of info...what is strange to me is that Trump's medical team has not said anything. A former president gets shot (supposedly) and the public is not given one piece of information regarding the injury he suffered? I saw one article that said he did not even need stitches, yet he is wearing a tampon sized bandage over his entire ear. Can't wrap my head around it....
trump has always been private about his health. hence the bullshit doctor's notes with fake height and weight and incredibly low bmi. does anybody really think he would let a doctor come out and state how insignificant his injury was? he even denied having bone spurs.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
It’s funny how MAGA folks can’t wrap their heads around the notion that this kid came from a republican family and tried to kill the Republican nominee! 😜 in their minds it could only be a liberal democrat who’d try such a thing..
It’s not that. There’s plenty of republicans that don’t like Trump. There’s minimal information being shared. The secret service isn’t sharing much, if anything. The amount of information released seems pretty odd to me. After most publicized mass shootings we know everything about the shooter in about 48 hours.
About the only things I’ve read about him was he’s standoffish, a loner and known for wearing hunting clothes and a Covid mask after the pandemic. If he’s MAGA, he’s the only one who continued to wear a mask.
And the only articles I’ve seen list the parents as registered libertarian and democrat. So I was curious why some were calling the parents MAGA. Being labeled as subjective to gun rights ads in 2016 doesn’t say much. But if they had Trump signs, that does. Its not that they can’t wrap their heads around it, there’s just almost no information coming out.
Face it, mace, if the kid was a black transgender liberal swimmer, maga would be parading in the streets and jumping up and down for joy and you know it.
They obviously do not know how to grasp the fact that he fits the same profile as just about every mass shooter this country sees everyday: that he's one of them.
Regarding the lack of info...what is strange to me is that Trump's medical team has not said anything. A former president gets shot (supposedly) and the public is not given one piece of information regarding the injury he suffered? I saw one article that said he did not even need stitches, yet he is wearing a tampon sized bandage over his entire ear. Can't wrap my head around it....
trump has always been private about his health. hence the bullshit doctor's notes with fake height and weight and incredibly low bmi. does anybody really think he would let a doctor come out and state how insignificant his injury was? he even denied having bone spurs.
Kinda think if the report would help him appear tougher, he would release it. Not releasing only makes the whispers of a little piece of glass grazing his ear grow louder.
Still just odd. Just odd....ex president reportedly is shot and the only confirmation we have is from that same ex president...who is not exactly known to tell the truth about much of anything lol
It’s funny how MAGA folks can’t wrap their heads around the notion that this kid came from a republican family and tried to kill the Republican nominee! 😜 in their minds it could only be a liberal democrat who’d try such a thing..
It’s not that. There’s plenty of republicans that don’t like Trump. There’s minimal information being shared. The secret service isn’t sharing much, if anything. The amount of information released seems pretty odd to me. After most publicized mass shootings we know everything about the shooter in about 48 hours.
About the only things I’ve read about him was he’s standoffish, a loner and known for wearing hunting clothes and a Covid mask after the pandemic. If he’s MAGA, he’s the only one who continued to wear a mask.
And the only articles I’ve seen list the parents as registered libertarian and democrat. So I was curious why some were calling the parents MAGA. Being labeled as subjective to gun rights ads in 2016 doesn’t say much. But if they had Trump signs, that does. Its not that they can’t wrap their heads around it, there’s just almost no information coming out.
Face it, mace, if the kid was a black transgender liberal swimmer, maga would be parading in the streets and jumping up and down for joy and you know it.
They obviously do not know how to grasp the fact that he fits the same profile as just about every mass shooter this country sees everyday: that he's one of them.
Regarding the lack of info...what is strange to me is that Trump's medical team has not said anything. A former president gets shot (supposedly) and the public is not given one piece of information regarding the injury he suffered? I saw one article that said he did not even need stitches, yet he is wearing a tampon sized bandage over his entire ear. Can't wrap my head around it....
trump has always been private about his health. hence the bullshit doctor's notes with fake height and weight and incredibly low bmi. does anybody really think he would let a doctor come out and state how insignificant his injury was? he even denied having bone spurs.
Im not really sure why his injury matters. It seems pretty petty. Even if the bullet completely missed him it’s still pretty significant. I can’t imagine how I’d feel if that happened to me. I know most here just make a joke and hate him, understandably, but it’s still insane what happened. Pretty depressing times.
It’s funny how MAGA folks can’t wrap their heads around the notion that this kid came from a republican family and tried to kill the Republican nominee! 😜 in their minds it could only be a liberal democrat who’d try such a thing..
It’s not that. There’s plenty of republicans that don’t like Trump. There’s minimal information being shared. The secret service isn’t sharing much, if anything. The amount of information released seems pretty odd to me. After most publicized mass shootings we know everything about the shooter in about 48 hours.
About the only things I’ve read about him was he’s standoffish, a loner and known for wearing hunting clothes and a Covid mask after the pandemic. If he’s MAGA, he’s the only one who continued to wear a mask.
And the only articles I’ve seen list the parents as registered libertarian and democrat. So I was curious why some were calling the parents MAGA. Being labeled as subjective to gun rights ads in 2016 doesn’t say much. But if they had Trump signs, that does. Its not that they can’t wrap their heads around it, there’s just almost no information coming out.
Face it, mace, if the kid was a black transgender liberal swimmer, maga would be parading in the streets and jumping up and down for joy and you know it.
They obviously do not know how to grasp the fact that he fits the same profile as just about every mass shooter this country sees everyday: that he's one of them.
Regarding the lack of info...what is strange to me is that Trump's medical team has not said anything. A former president gets shot (supposedly) and the public is not given one piece of information regarding the injury he suffered? I saw one article that said he did not even need stitches, yet he is wearing a tampon sized bandage over his entire ear. Can't wrap my head around it....
trump has always been private about his health. hence the bullshit doctor's notes with fake height and weight and incredibly low bmi. does anybody really think he would let a doctor come out and state how insignificant his injury was? he even denied having bone spurs.
Kinda think if the report would help him appear tougher, he would release it. Not releasing only makes the whispers of a little piece of glass grazing his ear grow louder.
Still just odd. Just odd....ex president reportedly is shot and the only confirmation we have is from that same ex president...who is not exactly known to tell the truth about much of anything lol
if i were the candidate i would want the people to know the extent of my injuries. because it is the right thing to do.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
It’s funny how MAGA folks can’t wrap their heads around the notion that this kid came from a republican family and tried to kill the Republican nominee! 😜 in their minds it could only be a liberal democrat who’d try such a thing..
It’s not that. There’s plenty of republicans that don’t like Trump. There’s minimal information being shared. The secret service isn’t sharing much, if anything. The amount of information released seems pretty odd to me. After most publicized mass shootings we know everything about the shooter in about 48 hours.
About the only things I’ve read about him was he’s standoffish, a loner and known for wearing hunting clothes and a Covid mask after the pandemic. If he’s MAGA, he’s the only one who continued to wear a mask.
And the only articles I’ve seen list the parents as registered libertarian and democrat. So I was curious why some were calling the parents MAGA. Being labeled as subjective to gun rights ads in 2016 doesn’t say much. But if they had Trump signs, that does. Its not that they can’t wrap their heads around it, there’s just almost no information coming out.
Face it, mace, if the kid was a black transgender liberal swimmer, maga would be parading in the streets and jumping up and down for joy and you know it.
They obviously do not know how to grasp the fact that he fits the same profile as just about every mass shooter this country sees everyday: that he's one of them.
Regarding the lack of info...what is strange to me is that Trump's medical team has not said anything. A former president gets shot (supposedly) and the public is not given one piece of information regarding the injury he suffered? I saw one article that said he did not even need stitches, yet he is wearing a tampon sized bandage over his entire ear. Can't wrap my head around it....
trump has always been private about his health. hence the bullshit doctor's notes with fake height and weight and incredibly low bmi. does anybody really think he would let a doctor come out and state how insignificant his injury was? he even denied having bone spurs.
Im not really sure why his injury matters. It seems pretty petty. Even if the bullet completely missed him it’s still pretty significant. I can’t imagine how I’d feel if that happened to me. I know most here just make a joke and hate him, understandably, but it’s still insane what happened. Pretty depressing times.
no, not petty. the secrecy breeds skepticism. who gets shot at and stands there pumping his fist yelling fight fight fight? seems a strange reaction for someone who had just been shot.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
It’s funny how MAGA folks can’t wrap their heads around the notion that this kid came from a republican family and tried to kill the Republican nominee! 😜 in their minds it could only be a liberal democrat who’d try such a thing..
It’s not that. There’s plenty of republicans that don’t like Trump. There’s minimal information being shared. The secret service isn’t sharing much, if anything. The amount of information released seems pretty odd to me. After most publicized mass shootings we know everything about the shooter in about 48 hours.
About the only things I’ve read about him was he’s standoffish, a loner and known for wearing hunting clothes and a Covid mask after the pandemic. If he’s MAGA, he’s the only one who continued to wear a mask.
And the only articles I’ve seen list the parents as registered libertarian and democrat. So I was curious why some were calling the parents MAGA. Being labeled as subjective to gun rights ads in 2016 doesn’t say much. But if they had Trump signs, that does. Its not that they can’t wrap their heads around it, there’s just almost no information coming out.
Face it, mace, if the kid was a black transgender liberal swimmer, maga would be parading in the streets and jumping up and down for joy and you know it.
They obviously do not know how to grasp the fact that he fits the same profile as just about every mass shooter this country sees everyday: that he's one of them.
Regarding the lack of info...what is strange to me is that Trump's medical team has not said anything. A former president gets shot (supposedly) and the public is not given one piece of information regarding the injury he suffered? I saw one article that said he did not even need stitches, yet he is wearing a tampon sized bandage over his entire ear. Can't wrap my head around it....
trump has always been private about his health. hence the bullshit doctor's notes with fake height and weight and incredibly low bmi. does anybody really think he would let a doctor come out and state how insignificant his injury was? he even denied having bone spurs.
Im not really sure why his injury matters. It seems pretty petty. Even if the bullet completely missed him it’s still pretty significant. I can’t imagine how I’d feel if that happened to me. I know most here just make a joke and hate him, understandably, but it’s still insane what happened. Pretty depressing times.
no, not petty. the secrecy breeds skepticism. who gets shot at and stands there pumping his fist yelling fight fight fight? seems a strange reaction for someone who had just been shot.
Adrenaline and that's the standard "tell the crowd you're ok" move that you see mostly in sports
It’s funny how MAGA folks can’t wrap their heads around the notion that this kid came from a republican family and tried to kill the Republican nominee! 😜 in their minds it could only be a liberal democrat who’d try such a thing..
It’s not that. There’s plenty of republicans that don’t like Trump. There’s minimal information being shared. The secret service isn’t sharing much, if anything. The amount of information released seems pretty odd to me. After most publicized mass shootings we know everything about the shooter in about 48 hours.
About the only things I’ve read about him was he’s standoffish, a loner and known for wearing hunting clothes and a Covid mask after the pandemic. If he’s MAGA, he’s the only one who continued to wear a mask.
And the only articles I’ve seen list the parents as registered libertarian and democrat. So I was curious why some were calling the parents MAGA. Being labeled as subjective to gun rights ads in 2016 doesn’t say much. But if they had Trump signs, that does. Its not that they can’t wrap their heads around it, there’s just almost no information coming out.
Face it, mace, if the kid was a black transgender liberal swimmer, maga would be parading in the streets and jumping up and down for joy and you know it.
They obviously do not know how to grasp the fact that he fits the same profile as just about every mass shooter this country sees everyday: that he's one of them.
Regarding the lack of info...what is strange to me is that Trump's medical team has not said anything. A former president gets shot (supposedly) and the public is not given one piece of information regarding the injury he suffered? I saw one article that said he did not even need stitches, yet he is wearing a tampon sized bandage over his entire ear. Can't wrap my head around it....
trump has always been private about his health. hence the bullshit doctor's notes with fake height and weight and incredibly low bmi. does anybody really think he would let a doctor come out and state how insignificant his injury was? he even denied having bone spurs.
Kinda think if the report would help him appear tougher, he would release it. Not releasing only makes the whispers of a little piece of glass grazing his ear grow louder.
Still just odd. Just odd....ex president reportedly is shot and the only confirmation we have is from that same ex president...who is not exactly known to tell the truth about much of anything lol
if i were the candidate i would want the people to know the extent of my injuries. because it is the right thing to do.
Do you want to see the half inch of mangled cartilage? It grazed his ear. How much detail do you need?
It’s funny how MAGA folks can’t wrap their heads around the notion that this kid came from a republican family and tried to kill the Republican nominee! 😜 in their minds it could only be a liberal democrat who’d try such a thing..
It’s not that. There’s plenty of republicans that don’t like Trump. There’s minimal information being shared. The secret service isn’t sharing much, if anything. The amount of information released seems pretty odd to me. After most publicized mass shootings we know everything about the shooter in about 48 hours.
About the only things I’ve read about him was he’s standoffish, a loner and known for wearing hunting clothes and a Covid mask after the pandemic. If he’s MAGA, he’s the only one who continued to wear a mask.
And the only articles I’ve seen list the parents as registered libertarian and democrat. So I was curious why some were calling the parents MAGA. Being labeled as subjective to gun rights ads in 2016 doesn’t say much. But if they had Trump signs, that does. Its not that they can’t wrap their heads around it, there’s just almost no information coming out.
Face it, mace, if the kid was a black transgender liberal swimmer, maga would be parading in the streets and jumping up and down for joy and you know it.
They obviously do not know how to grasp the fact that he fits the same profile as just about every mass shooter this country sees everyday: that he's one of them.
Regarding the lack of info...what is strange to me is that Trump's medical team has not said anything. A former president gets shot (supposedly) and the public is not given one piece of information regarding the injury he suffered? I saw one article that said he did not even need stitches, yet he is wearing a tampon sized bandage over his entire ear. Can't wrap my head around it....
trump has always been private about his health. hence the bullshit doctor's notes with fake height and weight and incredibly low bmi. does anybody really think he would let a doctor come out and state how insignificant his injury was? he even denied having bone spurs.
Kinda think if the report would help him appear tougher, he would release it. Not releasing only makes the whispers of a little piece of glass grazing his ear grow louder.
Still just odd. Just odd....ex president reportedly is shot and the only confirmation we have is from that same ex president...who is not exactly known to tell the truth about much of anything lol
if i were the candidate i would want the people to know the extent of my injuries. because it is the right thing to do.
Do you want to see the half inch of mangled cartilage? It grazed his ear. How much detail do you need?
All of it
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It’s funny how MAGA folks can’t wrap their heads around the notion that this kid came from a republican family and tried to kill the Republican nominee! 😜 in their minds it could only be a liberal democrat who’d try such a thing..
It’s not that. There’s plenty of republicans that don’t like Trump. There’s minimal information being shared. The secret service isn’t sharing much, if anything. The amount of information released seems pretty odd to me. After most publicized mass shootings we know everything about the shooter in about 48 hours.
About the only things I’ve read about him was he’s standoffish, a loner and known for wearing hunting clothes and a Covid mask after the pandemic. If he’s MAGA, he’s the only one who continued to wear a mask.
And the only articles I’ve seen list the parents as registered libertarian and democrat. So I was curious why some were calling the parents MAGA. Being labeled as subjective to gun rights ads in 2016 doesn’t say much. But if they had Trump signs, that does. Its not that they can’t wrap their heads around it, there’s just almost no information coming out.
Face it, mace, if the kid was a black transgender liberal swimmer, maga would be parading in the streets and jumping up and down for joy and you know it.
They obviously do not know how to grasp the fact that he fits the same profile as just about every mass shooter this country sees everyday: that he's one of them.
Regarding the lack of info...what is strange to me is that Trump's medical team has not said anything. A former president gets shot (supposedly) and the public is not given one piece of information regarding the injury he suffered? I saw one article that said he did not even need stitches, yet he is wearing a tampon sized bandage over his entire ear. Can't wrap my head around it....
trump has always been private about his health. hence the bullshit doctor's notes with fake height and weight and incredibly low bmi. does anybody really think he would let a doctor come out and state how insignificant his injury was? he even denied having bone spurs.
Kinda think if the report would help him appear tougher, he would release it. Not releasing only makes the whispers of a little piece of glass grazing his ear grow louder.
Still just odd. Just odd....ex president reportedly is shot and the only confirmation we have is from that same ex president...who is not exactly known to tell the truth about much of anything lol
if i were the candidate i would want the people to know the extent of my injuries. because it is the right thing to do.
Do you want to see the half inch of mangled cartilage? It grazed his ear. How much detail do you need?
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Yeah. It's quite strange how some people are just okay without having any details regarding an assanination attempt on a former president--whether it's Trump or anyone else.
I think it does matter if the bullet hit him or it was charred glass that ricocheted. I think it does matter if they are lying about what actually happened to him...at the very least it speaks to the character of the man on whether he would lie about it or not.
And for arguments sake, if it comes out in the weeks and months ahead that he was not actually shot---politically speaking, they will look pretty foolish.
Imagine history books 50 years from now citing Donald Trump, alone, on whether he was shot or not. lol.
It’s funny how MAGA folks can’t wrap their heads around the notion that this kid came from a republican family and tried to kill the Republican nominee! 😜 in their minds it could only be a liberal democrat who’d try such a thing..
It’s not that. There’s plenty of republicans that don’t like Trump. There’s minimal information being shared. The secret service isn’t sharing much, if anything. The amount of information released seems pretty odd to me. After most publicized mass shootings we know everything about the shooter in about 48 hours.
About the only things I’ve read about him was he’s standoffish, a loner and known for wearing hunting clothes and a Covid mask after the pandemic. If he’s MAGA, he’s the only one who continued to wear a mask.
And the only articles I’ve seen list the parents as registered libertarian and democrat. So I was curious why some were calling the parents MAGA. Being labeled as subjective to gun rights ads in 2016 doesn’t say much. But if they had Trump signs, that does. Its not that they can’t wrap their heads around it, there’s just almost no information coming out.
Face it, mace, if the kid was a black transgender liberal swimmer, maga would be parading in the streets and jumping up and down for joy and you know it.
They obviously do not know how to grasp the fact that he fits the same profile as just about every mass shooter this country sees everyday: that he's one of them.
Regarding the lack of info...what is strange to me is that Trump's medical team has not said anything. A former president gets shot (supposedly) and the public is not given one piece of information regarding the injury he suffered? I saw one article that said he did not even need stitches, yet he is wearing a tampon sized bandage over his entire ear. Can't wrap my head around it....
trump has always been private about his health. hence the bullshit doctor's notes with fake height and weight and incredibly low bmi. does anybody really think he would let a doctor come out and state how insignificant his injury was? he even denied having bone spurs.
Im not really sure why his injury matters. It seems pretty petty. Even if the bullet completely missed him it’s still pretty significant. I can’t imagine how I’d feel if that happened to me. I know most here just make a joke and hate him, understandably, but it’s still insane what happened. Pretty depressing times.
no, not petty. the secrecy breeds skepticism. who gets shot at and stands there pumping his fist yelling fight fight fight? seems a strange reaction for someone who had just been shot.
Adrenaline and that's the standard "tell the crowd you're ok" move that you see mostly in sports
It’s funny how MAGA folks can’t wrap their heads around the notion that this kid came from a republican family and tried to kill the Republican nominee! 😜 in their minds it could only be a liberal democrat who’d try such a thing..
It’s not that. There’s plenty of republicans that don’t like Trump. There’s minimal information being shared. The secret service isn’t sharing much, if anything. The amount of information released seems pretty odd to me. After most publicized mass shootings we know everything about the shooter in about 48 hours.
About the only things I’ve read about him was he’s standoffish, a loner and known for wearing hunting clothes and a Covid mask after the pandemic. If he’s MAGA, he’s the only one who continued to wear a mask.
And the only articles I’ve seen list the parents as registered libertarian and democrat. So I was curious why some were calling the parents MAGA. Being labeled as subjective to gun rights ads in 2016 doesn’t say much. But if they had Trump signs, that does. Its not that they can’t wrap their heads around it, there’s just almost no information coming out.
Face it, mace, if the kid was a black transgender liberal swimmer, maga would be parading in the streets and jumping up and down for joy and you know it.
They obviously do not know how to grasp the fact that he fits the same profile as just about every mass shooter this country sees everyday: that he's one of them.
Regarding the lack of info...what is strange to me is that Trump's medical team has not said anything. A former president gets shot (supposedly) and the public is not given one piece of information regarding the injury he suffered? I saw one article that said he did not even need stitches, yet he is wearing a tampon sized bandage over his entire ear. Can't wrap my head around it....
Biden looked awful yesterday. But Trump isn’t looking much better. IMO he aged about ten years. I haven’t really seen him happy since the shooting. Imagine thinking the entire country (or at least R) love you, then all of a sudden some young republican man from a MAGA home try’s to kill you, and then you find out another country wants you dead, it’s exactly like the Emperor’s New Clothes.
I wouldn’t be happy either knowing how badly my security detail screwed up and almost cost me my life either.
I remember you said the other day both the shooter’s parents are strong republicans. I’m curious if you actually know that, or just assuming? I read one parent was registered democrat and the other libertarian. I haven’t seen any reports that he came from a MAGA/trump family. And he had googled locations of the DNC, so possibly not just targeting Trump.
I wrote the other day for everyone to ignore the BS coming out of Bethel Park a/k/a Heroin High. So much still being written is total crap. Trump signs were in the yard both former presidential elections. I’m not saying who or how I know them and you can believe me or not, it truly doesn’t matter (not being rude I promise). I’m not sure how to say this but the districts all around and including Bethel are absolutely magnificent at keeping things quiet. They don’t allow anything to get out that they don’t want out. I imagine most schools are like that.
No one wants to believe that MAGA would shoot him so BP is just going with the program Mace. Don’t forget I worked in a school district - not Bethel - but close enough. I was a confidential board secretary, finance and operations assistant director and helped extensively in the business department. I had access to information that I wish I never knew.
I’m not gonna argue about it. Maybe he did plan to shoot them both. I honestly don’t care whether he was D or R. I get these are presidents but I’m sorry, I don’t see where their lives should be protected or mourned more than children in schools. Fuck both sides for never doing anything about that. I’m just at that point.
But maybe you can help me understand how can R can be pro-life, pro-gun, and pro capital punishment all at the same time?
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Putting Harris up there....especially contrasting it with the dumb Vance pick and his crazy views on abortion.....it is go time.
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I remember you said the other day both the shooter’s parents are strong republicans. I’m curious if you actually know that, or just assuming?
I read one parent was registered democrat and the other libertarian. I haven’t seen any reports that he came from a MAGA/trump family. And he had googled locations of the DNC, so possibly not just targeting Trump.
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/trump-shooters-parents-called-police-hours-before-assassination-attempt.amp
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-shooter-thomas-matthew-crooks-parents-republican-b2580370.html
Trump campaign data identified shooter’s father as a ‘strong Republican, likely gun owner, and hunter’
Thomas Matthew Crooks’ mom was also flagged as a voter likely to respond to pro-gun messaging, the Trump team found in 2016
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The father of 20-year-old would-be Donald Trump assassin Thomas Crooks was previously identified by the former president’s campaign as one of the voters in his area most likely to respond favorably to pro-gun messaging.
That’s according to confidential data obtained by Britain’s Channel 4 News, which said 53-year-old Matthew Crooks—who legally purchased the AR-15 rifle used by his son to fire at Trump as he spoke at a Butler, Pennsylvania, rally on Saturday—was covertly profiled by the Trump team in 2016 as “a strong Republican, likely gun owner and ‘hunter.’”
The campaign’s private database analyzed 6.7 million people in the Keystone State, a crucial battleground in the race for president, listing Matthew Crooks, a registered Libertarian, as among the top 20 prospects of 19,000 residents in the Pittsburgh suburb of Bethel Park, Channel 4 reported. He scored highly “across a range of gun-related [data] models,” according to the outlet, and was flagged by the Trump team as a voter “who could be susceptible to political messages about gun-rights.”
Crooks’ mother, a Democrat, was also singled out by Trump’s campaign as a likely gun owner who was potentially receptive to such messaging.
Overall, the Trump campaign ranked roughly 50 million individuals in 10 swing states, using the firearms-specific data models, according to Channel 4, which called the data-ming program “secretive.”
Crooks, a registered Republican who was not an attendee at Saturday’s rally, squeezed off at least eight shots from a nearby rooftop, clipping Trump in the ear. Trump was not seriously wounded, but one spectator was killed and two others critically injured. FBI officials said they were unsure if Crooks’ father had given his son permission to use the firearm, or if he had taken it without the older man’s knowledge.
The family is said to be cooperating with authorities. Shortly after he opened fire, Crooks was shot dead by Secret Service snipers.
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Matthew Crooks, a registered Libertarian, in 2013 bought the gun used in Saturday afternoon’s assassination attempt, a person familiar with the investigation told The Washington Post. Crooks purchased 50 rounds of 5.56 ammunition earlier on Saturday, authorities said. A former member of a shooting club in Clairton, Pennsylvania, a teenage Crooks was rejected by his high school’s rifle club for being a “dangerous” shot, according to one former classmate.
Many questions remain unanswered about the shooting, and experts have slammed the Secret Service for not preventing Crooks from posting up on the building, which the feds say was outside the rally perimeter and the responsibility of local cops.
Reached on Sunday by The Independent, Crooks’ uncle Mark said he had “no idea” what his nephew’s motivations for Saturday’s shooting might have been.
Doesn't mean the kid put them there of course.
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There’s minimal information being shared. The secret service isn’t sharing much, if anything. The amount of information released seems pretty odd to me. After most publicized mass shootings we know everything about the shooter in about 48 hours.
And the only articles I’ve seen list the parents as registered libertarian and democrat. So I was curious why some were calling the parents MAGA.
Being labeled as subjective to gun rights ads in 2016 doesn’t say much. But if they had Trump signs, that does.
Its not that they can’t wrap their heads around it, there’s just almost no information coming out.
They obviously do not know how to grasp the fact that he fits the same profile as just about every mass shooter this country sees everyday: that he's one of them.
Regarding the lack of info...what is strange to me is that Trump's medical team has not said anything. A former president gets shot (supposedly) and the public is not given one piece of information regarding the injury he suffered? I saw one article that said he did not even need stitches, yet he is wearing a tampon sized bandage over his entire ear. Can't wrap my head around it....
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Still just odd. Just odd....ex president reportedly is shot and the only confirmation we have is from that same ex president...who is not exactly known to tell the truth about much of anything lol
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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I think it does matter if the bullet hit him or it was charred glass that ricocheted. I think it does matter if they are lying about what actually happened to him...at the very least it speaks to the character of the man on whether he would lie about it or not.
And for arguments sake, if it comes out in the weeks and months ahead that he was not actually shot---politically speaking, they will look pretty foolish.
Imagine history books 50 years from now citing Donald Trump, alone, on whether he was shot or not. lol.