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  • Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited August 26
    mace1229 said:
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    Loan forgiveness is a terrible idea.
    One, it does zero to reduce to cost. So it’s pointless.
    But mostly, you agree to take a loan you should be responsible to pay it back. Not pass it off into other taxpayers. It’s not about fairness to those who just paid it off, I don’t care about that. If it was a gift from China then that’d one thing. But you’re “forgiving” it by passing it on to the rest of us.

    The reasons of they’re just drowning in debt and school is so expensive don’t do it for me. How many drowning in student loan debt considered other options like going to a 2 year school first? There are ways to drastically cut the cost back if that is your goal. There are plenty of people drowning in credit card debt too, should we forgive that with tax money? You chose to take out tens of thousands to attend a 4 year school, and most likely partied the first 2 years. That’s great. I wish you the best. Don’t pay off your debt with my taxes though.

    I also think PPP loan forgiveness was a bad idea.
    Two points:
    1 what about people who still owe 60k in loans on a 70k initial loan amount.  After 25 years of paying they have paid back 75k to the government?

    there are a lot of older borrowers who have in fact paid the entire principle back.  A lot of these people happen to be teachers.  If we paid them more (with our tax dollars) maybe they wouldn’t be in this situation to begin with 

    2. Non college educated people get bailed out all the time (as education level generally mirrors income)
    in Texas after the winter storm a couple of years ago the people on variable rate energy plans got bailed out.
    these are the people who saved money for years with their energy rates floating below a long term contract rate.  When prices spiked and they got a $5k heating bill they didn’t have to pay.

    natural disasters.   The homes least able to withstand a disaster are the ones owned generally by people who didn’t go to college. They also don’t have proper insurance.   They get bailed out 

    loan forgiveness is a handout but middle class college educated individuals get less handouts than a lot of other groups.  

    I am subsidising those handouts through my electricity rates and through my tax dollars.  A lot of the pushback on the right is being framed as non college graduates footing the bill.  Well they aren’t, as they don’t pay that many taxes to begin with statistically speaking.

    I’ve paid off 100 percent of my student loans.  I’m not benefiting but I’m happy to help others get a small bit of relief.
    2- This is irrelevant. If we're talking about student loans, that has nothing to do with what other people got during a natural disaster or anything or time. But if we do want to talk about it, it just opens the door for everyone who just paid back their loans to complain too. Which are valid points, why are those who did't pay it off rewarded and those who did get nothing? I'm sure many made sacrifices, put down less on a car or home to pay off loans early, so they just have another form, just not as a student loan. So I'm just talking about in basic terms of just the loan itself to keep it simpler. 

    1- I feel bad with people who have 60k in student loan debt. But I wasn't the one who signed up for it and agreed to pay it. Thats the bottom line and what I can't agree with. You agree to the terms and sign up for it. If its too much, if its going to create a long-lasting burden, then don't do it. There are much cheaper alternatives. You can go to the community college I went to for still only $46 a unit! Get your first 2 years out of the way. You can get your first 2 years of college for about $2200 there. There's actually a trade school shortage because they are just taking out loans and doing the 4 year college without even knowing what they want to do and trying to find yourself. Probably because everyone wants the dorm/college life experience, and now expects everyone else to pay for it too. 
    It’s not irrelevant because the entire issue isn’t it’s a handout, it’s a handout some people get and others don’t.
     Everyone gets some form of handout, and everyone thinks the one they get is justified and the one they don’t get isn’t. 

    Tax breaks, subsidies, grants, stimulus checks, government spending in general. 

    All of it benefits one group and sometimes not another.
    look at healthcare.  One of the main roadblocks in national health isn’t free (tax supported) healthcare. It’s people being to worried I’m paying taxes for my healthcare when someone else gets theirs reguardless. People being worried about what other people are getting is a big problem.  Having a lower cost to you is less important than someone else getting an even better deal. What’s best for everyone also isn’t  a factor 

     If the median income is in the ballpark of 40k for a non college graduate they pay at most 3k in actual federal taxes SS and Medicare don’t count. Probably much less.  They aren’t even paying for their share of the defense department budget so I really question the narrative coming from GOP talking points that non college graduates are footing the bill.  Is everyone paying a little? Sure.  It’s not class warfare though.  By in large college graduates are footing the bill 
    We'll disagree on the first part. None of the other examples I've seen include anyone who signed up and agreed to something, then said its too much. We didn't bail out individuals who got suckered into a bad home loan in 2006 and were part of the record foreclosures in 2008. In terms of borrowing, I don't see this differently. 

    But I agree with the last. Saying non college grads are paying it is a weak argument. Saying everyone is paying it, which includes those who'd didn't go as well as those who paid off their loans, had a full ride scholarship, saved up, worked extra jobs, chose community college first, went to trade school, etc. is more accurate. Non college grads are probably the smaller population of that group, don't know why they'd focus on them. 

    Some of this reminds me of a conversation I had with my wife when her company went all in on paid maternity leave for both the men and women.

    older women complained the most. They were mad new mothers got a benefit that they didn’t when they had their kids.

    it seemed insane to me.  

    Paying off college loans especially for people who have paid off the principle to me should be a no brainer but it goes back to that maternity policy uproar at my wife’s company.  It’s not fair because I didn’t get it.

    FYI on average the average 34 year old with student debt owes 287% more than the initial loan amount.  Obviously an average is skewed by extreme examples.  What’s true though is loan balances often don’t go down especially with income based repayment.  Spinning in circles with interest is a problem.  With other debt you can declare bankruptcy with federal student loans you can’t always get rid of it there 
    Being upset solely because you didn't get it too does seem insane. But I'm guessing the cost of doing things like that gets passed on to everyone. For example, in order to pay for maternity leave for everyone maybe they increase the cost of benefits. So in effect you're helping pay for a benefit for someone else that wasn't available to you. I'm not saying we shouldn't expand benefits for that reason, but it would be a valid complaint. I'd be upset if I had to take unpaid leave, then a couple years later essentially take a pay cut so others could take a paid leave that was not afforded to me. 
    Exactly 

    that’s a huge problem with moving forward with anything.  I would argue it’s the single biggest barrier to change.

    it’s also contra to a lot of values people have when seeing themselves as individuals instead of being part of a larger group. 

    It’s tough to get around.  Best for me Vs best for us. selfish vs selfless.  I also don’t think being selfish is necessarily even a negative quality it’s a pretty normal and reasonable position a lot of times 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 32,070
    Damn you Brandon!


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 32,070
    Has anyone heard anything about the supply chain issue of late? I went to buy eggs and there was a sign up about a shortage but I still bought a dozen. Should I have gotten more? Like 4 dozen? Can you freeze them? Like an embryo?
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  • Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    Has anyone heard anything about the supply chain issue of late? I went to buy eggs and there was a sign up about a shortage but I still bought a dozen. Should I have gotten more? Like 4 dozen? Can you freeze them? Like an embryo?
    I just have lots of big cans of freeze dried eggs.  Just in case 😂
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 32,070
    Has anyone heard anything about the supply chain issue of late? I went to buy eggs and there was a sign up about a shortage but I still bought a dozen. Should I have gotten more? Like 4 dozen? Can you freeze them? Like an embryo?
    I just have lots of big cans of freeze dried eggs.  Just in case 😂
    Is that like Tang where you just add water and BOOM, you’ve got orange juice? If so, I’ll have to look into it. Question, can you get them over easy?
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 6,485
    edited August 30
    Has anyone heard anything about the supply chain issue of late? I went to buy eggs and there was a sign up about a shortage but I still bought a dozen. Should I have gotten more? Like 4 dozen? Can you freeze them? Like an embryo?
    Have you tried to buy appliances? Had any construction done lately? Paint? I’m dealing with supply chain issues everyday. Not to mention 20-70% increases on most products. With more increases to come from companies like GE and Roman. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 43,575
    nicknyr15 said:
    Has anyone heard anything about the supply chain issue of late? I went to buy eggs and there was a sign up about a shortage but I still bought a dozen. Should I have gotten more? Like 4 dozen? Can you freeze them? Like an embryo?
    Have you tried to buy appliances? Had any construction done lately? Paint? I’m dealing with supply chain issues everyday. Not to mention 20-70% increases on most products. With more increases to come from companies like GM and Roman. 
    We bought a washer and dryer last year. Had to wait about a week. Had a pool put in this summer. Supply issues caused some minor delays but nothing major at all. Was finished just a couple weeks behind schedule. 

    In my neck of the woods gas prices are down almost a dollar from where they were a couple months ago. 




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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 6,485
    nicknyr15 said:
    Has anyone heard anything about the supply chain issue of late? I went to buy eggs and there was a sign up about a shortage but I still bought a dozen. Should I have gotten more? Like 4 dozen? Can you freeze them? Like an embryo?
    Have you tried to buy appliances? Had any construction done lately? Paint? I’m dealing with supply chain issues everyday. Not to mention 20-70% increases on most products. With more increases to come from companies like GM and Roman. 
    We bought a washer and dryer last year. Had to wait about a week. Had a pool put in this summer. Supply issues caused some minor delays but nothing major at all. Was finished just a couple weeks behind schedule. 

    In my neck of the woods gas prices are down almost a dollar from where they were a couple months ago. 




    I mean, I’m in the business. 20-70% increases on material in a year is insane. And I’m still facing supply issues on a ton of products. Unless we were only talking about eggs? 
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 43,575
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Has anyone heard anything about the supply chain issue of late? I went to buy eggs and there was a sign up about a shortage but I still bought a dozen. Should I have gotten more? Like 4 dozen? Can you freeze them? Like an embryo?
    Have you tried to buy appliances? Had any construction done lately? Paint? I’m dealing with supply chain issues everyday. Not to mention 20-70% increases on most products. With more increases to come from companies like GM and Roman. 
    We bought a washer and dryer last year. Had to wait about a week. Had a pool put in this summer. Supply issues caused some minor delays but nothing major at all. Was finished just a couple weeks behind schedule. 

    In my neck of the woods gas prices are down almost a dollar from where they were a couple months ago. 




    I mean, I’m in the business. 20-70% increases on material in a year is insane. And I’m still facing supply issues on a ton of products. Unless we were only talking about eggs? 
    No I was talking about what I mentioned. Yeah the cost of shit is absolutely insane right now--absolutely agree. But hopefully the trends from these latest reports over the summer continue and inflation really has peaked. 
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 6,485
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Has anyone heard anything about the supply chain issue of late? I went to buy eggs and there was a sign up about a shortage but I still bought a dozen. Should I have gotten more? Like 4 dozen? Can you freeze them? Like an embryo?
    Have you tried to buy appliances? Had any construction done lately? Paint? I’m dealing with supply chain issues everyday. Not to mention 20-70% increases on most products. With more increases to come from companies like GM and Roman. 
    We bought a washer and dryer last year. Had to wait about a week. Had a pool put in this summer. Supply issues caused some minor delays but nothing major at all. Was finished just a couple weeks behind schedule. 

    In my neck of the woods gas prices are down almost a dollar from where they were a couple months ago. 




    I mean, I’m in the business. 20-70% increases on material in a year is insane. And I’m still facing supply issues on a ton of products. Unless we were only talking about eggs? 
    No I was talking about what I mentioned. Yeah the cost of shit is absolutely insane right now--absolutely agree. But hopefully the trends from these latest reports over the summer continue and inflation really has peaked. 
    Yea I hope so. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 32,070
    nicknyr15 said:
    Has anyone heard anything about the supply chain issue of late? I went to buy eggs and there was a sign up about a shortage but I still bought a dozen. Should I have gotten more? Like 4 dozen? Can you freeze them? Like an embryo?
    Have you tried to buy appliances? Had any construction done lately? Paint? I’m dealing with supply chain issues everyday. Not to mention 20-70% increases on most products. With more increases to come from companies like GE and Roman. 
    I thought you wouldn't converse with someone of the likes of me? Weird.

    Yea, I bought paint and had work done on my house. Contractor had no issues getting shit from hardware stores. Even paint colors from almost 25 years ago. Imagine that? Bike shop up the street has an 18 wheeler twice a week dropping new bikes, racks are full. I'm not in the market for a car or appliances but when I go by car lots, they have inventory as do the Best Buys and Home Depots. What I could use is a new laptop because Dell sucks but I don't have it in me to deal with technology. Thats why there's IT departments. Oh, and someone in the store I was in last night wanted baby formula and they had it but had to get the key.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 15,667
    nicknyr15 said:
    Has anyone heard anything about the supply chain issue of late? I went to buy eggs and there was a sign up about a shortage but I still bought a dozen. Should I have gotten more? Like 4 dozen? Can you freeze them? Like an embryo?
    Have you tried to buy appliances? Had any construction done lately? Paint? I’m dealing with supply chain issues everyday. Not to mention 20-70% increases on most products. With more increases to come from companies like GE and Roman. 
    I thought you wouldn't converse with someone of the likes of me? Weird.

    Yea, I bought paint and had work done on my house. Contractor had no issues getting shit from hardware stores. Even paint colors from almost 25 years ago. Imagine that? Bike shop up the street has an 18 wheeler twice a week dropping new bikes, racks are full. I'm not in the market for a car or appliances but when I go by car lots, they have inventory as do the Best Buys and Home Depots. What I could use is a new laptop because Dell sucks but I don't have it in me to deal with technology. Thats why there's IT departments. Oh, and someone in the store I was in last night wanted baby formula and they had it but had to get the key.
    I work in consumer goods manufacturing and the supply chain is an issue every single day for most business units.  Sometimes it's just the cost or the cost of T&W.  But it has also been in raw materials.   I see supply chain issues sticking around a bit.  Nothing like no TP on the shelf...but limited choice and higher prices.  Though it does seem T&W is trending in a better direction at the moment.
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  • Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited August 30
    Has anyone heard anything about the supply chain issue of late? I went to buy eggs and there was a sign up about a shortage but I still bought a dozen. Should I have gotten more? Like 4 dozen? Can you freeze them? Like an embryo?
    I just have lots of big cans of freeze dried eggs.  Just in case 😂
    Is that like Tang where you just add water and BOOM, you’ve got orange juice? If so, I’ll have to look into it. Question, can you get them over easy?
    It’s like tang but powdered eggs. It looks like tang too minus the color

    it’s not terrible if you are camping or starving.  I wouldn’t eat it by choice. Unless I couldn’t get eggs 

    during the last supply chain issue the toilet paper I had to buy was like sandpaper so I’m not doing that again. Proportionally powdered eggs are better than bad toilet paper or no toilet paper 
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  • Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited August 30
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Has anyone heard anything about the supply chain issue of late? I went to buy eggs and there was a sign up about a shortage but I still bought a dozen. Should I have gotten more? Like 4 dozen? Can you freeze them? Like an embryo?
    Have you tried to buy appliances? Had any construction done lately? Paint? I’m dealing with supply chain issues everyday. Not to mention 20-70% increases on most products. With more increases to come from companies like GM and Roman. 
    We bought a washer and dryer last year. Had to wait about a week. Had a pool put in this summer. Supply issues caused some minor delays but nothing major at all. Was finished just a couple weeks behind schedule. 

    In my neck of the woods gas prices are down almost a dollar from where they were a couple months ago. 




    I mean, I’m in the business. 20-70% increases on material in a year is insane. And I’m still facing supply issues on a ton of products. Unless we were only talking about eggs? 
    No I was talking about what I mentioned. Yeah the cost of shit is absolutely insane right now--absolutely agree. But hopefully the trends from these latest reports over the summer continue and inflation really has peaked. 
    Peaked maybe. I don’t think it’s coming down anytime soon though at least to anything approaching normal

    Probably 1/2 good news 

    covid doesn’t help. The amount of people spending money now everyone is out and about again is crazy. I don’t think I’ve ever seen prices rise this much and people just continue buying anyway.  Vacations are a good example.  If you haven’t had one in a few years you went no matter what this summer. If covid didn’t happen people may not have and the economy contracts rapidly and inflation goes down 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 26,194
    Has anyone heard anything about the supply chain issue of late? I went to buy eggs and there was a sign up about a shortage but I still bought a dozen. Should I have gotten more? Like 4 dozen? Can you freeze them? Like an embryo?
    I just have lots of big cans of freeze dried eggs.  Just in case 😂
    Is that like Tang where you just add water and BOOM, you’ve got orange juice? If so, I’ll have to look into it. Question, can you get them over easy?
    It’s like tang but powdered eggs. It looks like tang too minus the color

    it’s not terrible if you are camping or starving.  I wouldn’t eat it by choice. Unless I couldn’t get eggs 

    during the last supply chain issue the toilet paper I had to buy was like sandpaper so I’m not doing that again. Proportionally powdered eggs are better than bad toilet paper or no toilet paper 
    I agree.  My ass is far more important and sensitive than my stomach. 
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 6,485
    edited August 30
    nicknyr15 said:
    Has anyone heard anything about the supply chain issue of late? I went to buy eggs and there was a sign up about a shortage but I still bought a dozen. Should I have gotten more? Like 4 dozen? Can you freeze them? Like an embryo?
    Have you tried to buy appliances? Had any construction done lately? Paint? I’m dealing with supply chain issues everyday. Not to mention 20-70% increases on most products. With more increases to come from companies like GE and Roman. 
    I thought you wouldn't converse with someone of the likes of me? Weird.

    Yea, I bought paint and had work done on my house. Contractor had no issues getting shit from hardware stores. Even paint colors from almost 25 years ago. Imagine that? Bike shop up the street has an 18 wheeler twice a week dropping new bikes, racks are full. I'm not in the market for a car or appliances but when I go by car lots, they have inventory as do the Best Buys and Home Depots. What I could use is a new laptop because Dell sucks but I don't have it in me to deal with technology. Thats why there's IT departments. Oh, and someone in the store I was in last night wanted baby formula and they had it but had to get the key.
    It’s not weird. You’re not easy to talk to when it come to politics. Nothing personal. I’m glad you had no issue. Making old colors is nothing, we make decades old colors every day. And I’m not sure the extent of work you had done but most of the problems are with new construction, gut renovations, new kitchens , new bathrooms etc…. The paint you put on your wall is one thing. We’ve had issues all year getting certain coatings for industrial use, fire retardant coatings, certain bases that are used to make dark colors for schools….. there’s always an issue. But, we work our way around it. My shelves are stocked but it takes a lot of extra work to find replacement products and keep track of hundreds of SKU that are out of stock so we can keep trying to reorder and they don’t fall through the cracks. Most vendors nowadays don’t backorder products  
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 32,070
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Has anyone heard anything about the supply chain issue of late? I went to buy eggs and there was a sign up about a shortage but I still bought a dozen. Should I have gotten more? Like 4 dozen? Can you freeze them? Like an embryo?
    Have you tried to buy appliances? Had any construction done lately? Paint? I’m dealing with supply chain issues everyday. Not to mention 20-70% increases on most products. With more increases to come from companies like GE and Roman. 
    I thought you wouldn't converse with someone of the likes of me? Weird.

    Yea, I bought paint and had work done on my house. Contractor had no issues getting shit from hardware stores. Even paint colors from almost 25 years ago. Imagine that? Bike shop up the street has an 18 wheeler twice a week dropping new bikes, racks are full. I'm not in the market for a car or appliances but when I go by car lots, they have inventory as do the Best Buys and Home Depots. What I could use is a new laptop because Dell sucks but I don't have it in me to deal with technology. Thats why there's IT departments. Oh, and someone in the store I was in last night wanted baby formula and they had it but had to get the key.
    It’s not weird. You’re not easy to talk to when it come to politics. Nothing personal. I’m glad you had no issue. Making old colors is nothing, we make decades old colors every day. And I’m not sure the extent of work you had done but most of the problems are with new construction, gut renovations, new kitchens , new bathrooms etc…. The paint you put on your wall is one thing. We’ve had issues all year getting certain coatings for industrial use, fire retardant coatings, certain bases that are used to make dark colors for schools….. there’s always an issue. But, we work our way around it. My shelves are stocked but it takes a lot of extra work to find replacement products and keep track of hundreds of SKU that are out of stock so we can keep trying to reorder and they don’t fall through the cracks. Most vendors nowadays don’t backorder products  
    My point being that when the repubs screamed and yelled and stamped their feet regarding the supply chain issues, while offering no solutions of their own and whilst criticizing Brandon, they made it sound like the world was coming to an end and it was all Brandon’s and the Dems’ fault. Brandon pulled the levers he had available and here we are with nary a peep from repubs. It’s the difference between having an adult at the helm and petulant children in office.

    I think it’s pretty cool how paint chemistry and technology has changed and how completely and scientific paint formulas have become, although the environmental impact of micro-plastics and chemicals and metals can be concerning. Not so much to use or health while using because the lead has been removed and the awareness of VOCs but the disposal and manufacturing issues. Had a friend who painted a rental unit with marine paint because he thought it would withstand douchebag tenants and their abuse. Fire engine red and canary yellow color scheme. He was odd. But I still find it amazing that you can bring in a paint chip from 25 years ago and they’ll formulate a perfect match. Way different than when I was kid and painted the neighbor’s house starting at age 12.

    Don’t you use barcoding, hand scanners and software and analytics  to manage your inventory, ordering, etc.? Shit can streamline your headaches.
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    Brandon coming out swing in Wilkes Barre this afternoon. I look forward to Hitler’s, I mean POOTWH’s, response at his next rally.
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  • Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    Brandon coming out swing in Wilkes Barre this afternoon. I look forward to Hitler’s, I mean POOTWH’s, response at his next rally.
    He is too busy re-posting a user falsely claiming to be his daughter complaining about “the useless vaccines.” 

    Back in the real world she supports them

    i really need to get on truth social. I’d be banned in a day though 
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 7,579
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Has anyone heard anything about the supply chain issue of late? I went to buy eggs and there was a sign up about a shortage but I still bought a dozen. Should I have gotten more? Like 4 dozen? Can you freeze them? Like an embryo?
    Have you tried to buy appliances? Had any construction done lately? Paint? I’m dealing with supply chain issues everyday. Not to mention 20-70% increases on most products. With more increases to come from companies like GM and Roman. 
    We bought a washer and dryer last year. Had to wait about a week. Had a pool put in this summer. Supply issues caused some minor delays but nothing major at all. Was finished just a couple weeks behind schedule. 

    In my neck of the woods gas prices are down almost a dollar from where they were a couple months ago. 




    I mean, I’m in the business. 20-70% increases on material in a year is insane. And I’m still facing supply issues on a ton of products. Unless we were only talking about eggs? 
    Our AC went out 2 weeks ago. Got 4 quotes. All betwee $8000-9000. I was shocked. I told them I was expecting half they. They said 2 years ago it would have been. The day they out in the AC the dishwasher went out. Same thing there too, up a lot from just a couple years ago.
  • Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    mace1229 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Has anyone heard anything about the supply chain issue of late? I went to buy eggs and there was a sign up about a shortage but I still bought a dozen. Should I have gotten more? Like 4 dozen? Can you freeze them? Like an embryo?
    Have you tried to buy appliances? Had any construction done lately? Paint? I’m dealing with supply chain issues everyday. Not to mention 20-70% increases on most products. With more increases to come from companies like GM and Roman. 
    We bought a washer and dryer last year. Had to wait about a week. Had a pool put in this summer. Supply issues caused some minor delays but nothing major at all. Was finished just a couple weeks behind schedule. 

    In my neck of the woods gas prices are down almost a dollar from where they were a couple months ago. 




    I mean, I’m in the business. 20-70% increases on material in a year is insane. And I’m still facing supply issues on a ton of products. Unless we were only talking about eggs? 
    Our AC went out 2 weeks ago. Got 4 quotes. All betwee $8000-9000. I was shocked. I told them I was expecting half they. They said 2 years ago it would have been. The day they out in the AC the dishwasher went out. Same thing there too, up a lot from just a couple years ago.
    That’s crazy. 
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 43,575
    mace1229 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Has anyone heard anything about the supply chain issue of late? I went to buy eggs and there was a sign up about a shortage but I still bought a dozen. Should I have gotten more? Like 4 dozen? Can you freeze them? Like an embryo?
    Have you tried to buy appliances? Had any construction done lately? Paint? I’m dealing with supply chain issues everyday. Not to mention 20-70% increases on most products. With more increases to come from companies like GM and Roman. 
    We bought a washer and dryer last year. Had to wait about a week. Had a pool put in this summer. Supply issues caused some minor delays but nothing major at all. Was finished just a couple weeks behind schedule. 

    In my neck of the woods gas prices are down almost a dollar from where they were a couple months ago. 




    I mean, I’m in the business. 20-70% increases on material in a year is insane. And I’m still facing supply issues on a ton of products. Unless we were only talking about eggs? 
    Our AC went out 2 weeks ago. Got 4 quotes. All betwee $8000-9000. I was shocked. I told them I was expecting half they. They said 2 years ago it would have been. The day they out in the AC the dishwasher went out. Same thing there too, up a lot from just a couple years ago.
    Yeah I got a quote on replacing our hvac in the spring and, of course, the prices were insane. I was not shocked, as I was expecting much higher prices given everything that has happened. But had I gone through with it though, it would not have taken them long to do it. Couple weeks or so. Supply chain stuff wasn't much of an issue. 
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    Good speech last night. Go on the offensive against these "maga republicans." I like it. 
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 7,471
    Good speech last night. Go on the offensive against these "maga republicans." I like it. 

    Agreed. They aren't going to go away if they're ignored, may as well call them out. 
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 38,336
    Good speech last night. Go on the offensive against these "maga republicans." I like it. 

    Good speech last night. Go on the offensive against these "maga republicans." I like it. 

    Agreed. They aren't going to go away if they're ignored, may as well call them out. 

    Yeah, seconded here too.  Nice to see Biden getting tough on the anti-democracy cultists.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 32,070
    316,000 jobs added in August. Fuck you Brandon!
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 20,225
    people said "let's go brandon" to him one too many times. now he is on a roll getting stuff done and they can't bring themselves to say "let's stop, brandon".
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  • static111static111 Posts: 3,993
    .I was expecting more MAGA fallout from the speech.  I haven't looked to closely at any right wing media today, but it seems like the response to being called out is pretty tame

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 26,194
    static111 said:
    .I was expecting more MAGA fallout from the speech.  I haven't looked to closely at any right wing media today, but it seems like the response to being called out is pretty tame

    No war has started? Strange...
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 7,471
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    .I was expecting more MAGA fallout from the speech.  I haven't looked to closely at any right wing media today, but it seems like the response to being called out is pretty tame

    No war has started? Strange...
    I was told there would be massive riots & bloodshed in his name… 


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