#46 President Joe Biden

cincybearcat

Gern Blansten said:

cincybearcat said:

I thought I clicked the Joe Biden thread but here we are. After over a year, still every thread is a trump thread. 

Do you really think that tRump won't be brought up in a Biden thread or vice/versa?

Are you the new topic SWAT team?

Ummm am I not allowed to comment on what I see here? 

Trump does have his own thread…has for a while.  Not reporting anything so relax but I can comment on it.

mickeyrat

 

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-vladimir-putin-moscow-russia-europe-7e06c808f644679afcfe64f66bc83792

Biden issues new warning to Russia over invading Ukraine

By MATTHEW LEE, AAMER MADHANI and FRANK JORDANS

23 mins ago

GENEVA (AP) — U.S. President Joe Biden said Thursday that any Russian troop movements across Ukraine’s border would constitute an invasion and that Moscow would “pay a heavy price” for such an action.

It was the latest White House effort to clear up comments Biden made a day earlier when he suggested that a “minor incursion” by Russia into Ukrainian territory could result in a more measured response by the United States and allies.

Facing an avalanche of criticism from Republican lawmakers and Ukrainian officials that Biden’s comments had invited limited military action by Russian President Vladimir Putin, Biden sought to clarify his remarks at the start of a meeting at the White House focused on domestic policy.

“I’ve been absolutely clear with President Putin,” Biden said. “He has no misunderstanding: Any, any assembled Russian units move across the Ukrainian border, that is an invasion,” said Biden, adding that an invasion would be met with a “severe and coordinated economic response.”

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cincybearcat

Good. He needed a new warning cause his other comments on it were fucking stupid for a president.  But I give people some passes when they speak on camera so much they will eventually do something stupid 

mickeyrat

different take then the previous linked fox article......

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-arts-and-entertainment-9c1fea07322a2891add2ecc7d1c9e6de

The Juggler

mickeyrat said:

different take then the previous linked fox article......

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-arts-and-entertainment-9c1fea07322a2891add2ecc7d1c9e6de

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This is why the source matters. AP is always on the point, calling things right down the middle as usual. 

cincybearcat

Ugh Biden sucks so bad…and still infinitely better than his alternative. These are sad times 

gimmesometruth27

does anyone know if trump is still getting daily presidential intelligence briefings? if he is, you know he is going to fucking say something to putin relating to any potential retaliation by the US because he just absolutely cannot help himself. 

cincybearcat

gimmesometruth27 said:

does anyone know if trump is still getting daily presidential intelligence briefings? if he is, you know he is going to fucking say something to putin relating to any potential retaliation by the US because he just absolutely cannot help himself. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/us/politics/biden-trump-intelligence-briefings.html

This article mentions Biden so it’s ok in a Biden thread 

gimmesometruth27

cincybearcat said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

does anyone know if trump is still getting daily presidential intelligence briefings? if he is, you know he is going to fucking say something to putin relating to any potential retaliation by the US because he just absolutely cannot help himself. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/us/politics/biden-trump-intelligence-briefings.html

This article mentions Biden so it’s ok in a Biden thread 

probably the smartest thing biden has done to this point.

mrussel1

mickeyrat said:

different take then the previous linked fox article......

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-arts-and-entertainment-9c1fea07322a2891add2ecc7d1c9e6de

The Fox, Newsmax and NY Post questions were so stupid.  C'mon.. were those for real?

Go Beavers

JB16057 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JB16057 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JB16057 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JB16057 said:

benjs said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mace1229 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://twitter.com/BrianKarem/status/1483947717219041287

I only watched about 20 minutes, but it included this question-answer described here.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/media/biden-appears-lose-cool-reporters-question-divisiveness-go-back-read-what-i-said.amp

That came off as attacking and belittling to be, and he was wrong and avoided the question.
The reporter was referring to his previous comment of Do you want to be on the side of King or Wallace, of Lewis or Connor?
His answer was basically you can’t read or understand English, despite being a reporter. When I don’t know how else you can take that comment.

i will refer back to your criticisms of every trump press conference.

one question. nobody can stand up there and take questions for 2 hours on these nuanced issues and be perfect.

i wonder how many times he regaled the reporters with tales of his amazing. unprecedented electoral college victory, how he made a perfect phone call this week, and how good his polls are, and how high his press conference ratings are. at least he did not suggest that we shove a powerful light up one of our orifaces to kill covid.

i swear, nothing will ever be good enough for some people.

What criticisms of every Trump conference? I think Trump’s press conferences were usually ridiculous too. But I’m not sure your point?  I criticized trumps conference so I can’t criticise Biden’s?

The question was fair. It was “you campaigned on unity. Do you think calling those who vote against your bills Jim Crow and Conor unity?” Fair question. He denied making those connections, which he did, and accused him of not being able to write (or read).

We we’re taking about the conference. I made 1 short comment where he didn’t answer the question, denied remarks he made and belittled a reporter and people get all offended. Is the bar really so low that we just have to be better than the most disliked president in our history? I didn’t add commentary about how bad Biden was, literally just reference the Q&A.  Yeah, I don’t think it’s that big of a deal in 2 hours. But it happened, they were talking about it so I pointed out that Q&A.

I can imagine the first president of West Germany, whoever that was, whenever he was questioned just being like “we’ll complain when I’ve killed 6 million Jews. Until then shut up.”

Instead of just comparing everything by to trump and avoiding the comment, why can’t anyone just say “Yeah, that was a bad answer. He should have clarified what he meant by those comments instead of insulting the reporter. Voter ID isn’t Jim Crpw so take a minute to clarify that. But he did well the rest of the time.” Why is that so hard?

agreed. if people want to get back to pre-trump norms, we have to be comfortable with all of it, including minor criticisms of a president's answer and how it maybe perceived as disrespectful to the questioner. 

How are we supposed to get back to pre Trump norms when Trump is not conceding the fact that he lost in 2020 and is likely going to run in 2024? 

Yes he did concede. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaTUAceQZag

In what universe is that a concession? All that was, was a weak condemnation of violence (alongside the rationalization that 'emotions are high').

That was a news report that didn't show the whole thing. Here is a better one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Sq50RaHkS8

And I quote, "Now Congress has certified the results and a new administration will be inaugurated on January 20th. My focus now turns to ensuring a smooth, orderly and seamless transition of power"

Conceding that he lost is not the same as conceding that the process is going to continue whether he likes it or not. 

Yeah what the fuck ever.

um, he's been holding rallies ever since stating the election was stolen from him. and you believe he conceded? yikes. 

Concession: In politics, a concession is the act of a losing candidate publicly yielding to a winning candidate after an election after the overall result of the vote has become clear.

fine. if you call that a concession, I call his months of rallies that came after that as an obvious un-concession. 

Many people have called that a concession so it isn't just me. Here's the difference between you and I. You are giving your opinion. I am giving you facts. You're welcome to your opinion but you are not welcome to change facts.

That’s Trump word play. The only concession here is that he’s conceding that his plan to not have the votes certified didn’t work. 

Go Beavers

Halifax2TheMax said:

The Juggler said:

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

People who concede generally don't whine and cry to anyone who will listen that they actually won 15 months later

https://nypost.com/2022/01/16/ex-president-donald-trump-claims-2020-election-was-stolen-at-first-rally-in-arizona/

“I love Arizona. We had a tremendous victory in Arizona that was taken away and I just want to wish everybody a happy New Year. We’re going to have, I think, a great year,” Trump said shortly after taking the stage to loud cheers.

“Last year we had a rigged election and the proof is all over the place,” he continued. “We have a lot of proof and they know it’s proof.

Modern day republicans:

we have a lot of proof and they know it's proof....I love how he stupidly repeats himself

That NPR interview last week really exposed him...as if we needed further proof he was lying. lol

If you read that interview exchange rather than listen to it, it becomes even more obvious that he doesn't know what he's talking about and that he makes no cogent sense. Its such a word salad but his BS'ing has gotten him this far. And to think that POOTWH's hand gestures and expressions are infecting everyday Americans, including some that are governors and running for higher office.

The transcripts are always worse because it eliminates his little habituated tricks he uses to hide his deficiencies. 

mickeyrat

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

different take then the previous linked fox article......

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-arts-and-entertainment-9c1fea07322a2891add2ecc7d1c9e6de

The Fox, Newsmax and NY Post questions were so stupid.  C'mon.. were those for real?

and they will be celebrated for it

mickeyrat

 https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-joe-biden-boris-johnson-business-europe-22423f450dddb6297ff823e3326f0dde

'Minor incursion' by Russia could complicate West's response

By ROBERT BURNS, ELLEN KNICKMEYER and ANGELA CHARLTON

2 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Short of an all-out invasion, Russian President Vladimir Putin could take less dramatic action in Ukraine that would vastly complicate a U.S. and allied response. He might carry out what President Joe Biden called a “minor incursion” — perhaps a cyberattack — leaving the U.S. and Europe divided on the type and severity of economic sanctions to impose on Moscow and ways to increase support for Kyiv.

Biden drew widespread criticism for saying Wednesday that retaliating for Russian aggression in Ukraine would depend on the details. “It’s one thing if it’s a minor incursion and then we end up having a fight about what to do and not do,” he said.

Biden and top administration officials worked Thursday to clean up his comments. Biden stressed that if “any assembled Russian units move across the Ukrainian border, that is an invasion” and it would be met with a “severe and coordinated economic response.”

But even if the “minor incursion” remark was seen as a gaffe, it touched on a potentially problematic issue: While the U.S. and allies agree on a strong response to a Russian invasion, it’s not clear how they would respond to Russian aggression that falls short of that, like a cyberattack or boosted support for pro-Russian separatists fighting in eastern Ukraine.

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Meltdown99

cincybearcat said:

I thought I clicked the Joe Biden thread but here we are. After over a year, still every thread is a trump thread. 

Trump names comes up in the cans politics….lol. He’s loved by Americans…

Gern Blansten

cincybearcat said:

Gern Blansten said:

cincybearcat said:

I thought I clicked the Joe Biden thread but here we are. After over a year, still every thread is a trump thread. 

Do you really think that tRump won't be brought up in a Biden thread or vice/versa?

Are you the new topic SWAT team?

Ummm am I not allowed to comment on what I see here? 

Trump does have his own thread…has for a while.  Not reporting anything so relax but I can comment on it.

well so can I mister smartypants!

Gern Blansten

cincybearcat said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

does anyone know if trump is still getting daily presidential intelligence briefings? if he is, you know he is going to fucking say something to putin relating to any potential retaliation by the US because he just absolutely cannot help himself. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/us/politics/biden-trump-intelligence-briefings.html

This article mentions Biden so it’s ok in a Biden thread 

lol

Meltdown99

https://twitter.com/theonion/status/1485654907470458888?s=21

“i’ll see your invasion, and match”

PJPOWER

Did anyone just watch his speech?  Who did he just call a “stupid son of a bitch” on hot mic?  Lol

mrussel1

PJPOWER said:

Did anyone just watch his speech?  Who did he just call a “stupid son of a bitch” on hot mic?  Lol

No but that's awesome.  This will be fun