#46 President Joe Biden

Bentleyspop

The Juggler said:

Out of My Mind and Time said:

Shush. Just trying to enjoy the Dead on Halloween 

For such a "high roller" you sure do have shitty seats. Shocking. 

Who's your president????

I was assuming that after his morning round of 18 at Pebble Beach and an afternoon surfing the break at Mavericks that he would have helicoptered in to the Burbank heliport and chauffeured to his seats in the Front Row.

F Me In The Brain

Bentleyspop said:

The Juggler said:

Out of My Mind and Time said:

Shush. Just trying to enjoy the Dead on Halloween 

For such a "high roller" you sure do have shitty seats. Shocking. 

Who's your president????

I was assuming that after his morning round of 18 at Pebble Beach and an afternoon surfing the break at Mavericks that he would have helicoptered in to the Burbank heliport and chauffeured to his seats in the Front Row.

A bunch of heli-pads in Hollywood which I would think would cater to big-timer Trump donor-types.

Shit, you can even have one on top of your house, in those hills. 

static111

nicknyr15 said:

That Lincoln project story is fucking ridiculous. Surprised/not surprised nobody has brought it up here. 

Just looked this up.  More proof that the lincoln project is garbage, like more proof was ever needed.

HughFreakingDillon

Out of My Mind and Time said:

Let me get this straight.  Now you weirdos are pretending to be racist? Or are racist? Which is it? WTF lincoln project. You left are fucking weird. 

FJB

you think the lincoln project are left?

nicknyr15

static111 said:

nicknyr15 said:

That Lincoln project story is fucking ridiculous. Surprised/not surprised nobody has brought it up here. 

Just looked this up.  More proof that the lincoln project is garbage, like more proof was ever needed.

Like I say all the time , when you agree with something it’s hard to see through the bullshit. Politics has became like religion to some people. Lincoln project is so cool because they make awesome anti trump ads! No better than fox or any of these other agenda based “news” outlets. Then people wonder why nobody trusts the news, or dare to question the vaccine. How selfish. 

Ledbetterman10

static111 said:

nicknyr15 said:

That Lincoln project story is fucking ridiculous. Surprised/not surprised nobody has brought it up here. 

Just looked this up.  More proof that the lincoln project is garbage, like more proof was ever needed.

I didn't think they were THIS bad though. 

Here's the whole story if people aren't aware....

Lincoln Project Claims Credit For Tiki Torch Stunt By Glenn Youngkin's Bus | HuffPost Latest News

All stuff like this does is empower the GOP. When conservatives want to suggest that there were people posing as Trump supporters on January 6th at the capitol, it's sounds silly. But then you see an anti-Trump organization like the Lincoln Project take credit for sending fake white supremacists to a republican politician's campaign rally. 

Halifax2TheMax

Where’s the outrage for Project Veritas and all their stunts? Oh, here come the righteous with “two wrongs don’t make a right” and “see, both sides, blah, blah, blah.” Funny thing is, when you’re wrestling with shit that comes out of the gutter, you sometimes have to get down into the gutter. And watching repubs eat their own is glorious. The Lincoln Project is hardly a dem or lib construct. Too funny.

mrussel1

They took a page from those two idiots who kept trying stunts over the last few years.  Can't recall their names but they are under felony indictment right now. 

The Juggler

They're not afraid to play a little dirty, whereas the democrats are vastly afraid of wading into those waters. All they did was try to remind people that Youngkin supports the guy who 'bothsided' that  horrible event that took place in that state a couple years ago. This stunt seemed to backfire but...so what? lol The democrats have done more than their fair share of blowing what should have been a surefire win there on Tuesday...

mrussel1

The Juggler said:

They're not afraid to play a little dirty, whereas the democrats are vastly afraid of wading into those waters. All they did was try to remind people that Youngkin supports the guy who 'bothsided' that  horrible event that took place in that state a couple years ago. This stunt seemed to backfire but...so what? lol The democrats have done more than their fair share of blowing what should have been a surefire win there on Tuesday...

The GOP hasn't put up a center right candidate in forever here.  This was going to be a challenge either way. Plus Terry is old blood, as a former governor.  I think it will be close and about turnout... who is more motivated.  I early voted Friday and it was packed.  

I'm more worried about the coat trails of the delegates than the actual governor,  to be honest. 

brianlux

The Lincoln Project tiki torch demonstration in Charlottesville is simply street theater which is an effective way to bring attention to an issue.  It was used very effectively during the Vietnam war to help bring an end to that atrocity.  I'm surprised to see so many left-leaning folks here denounce that demonstration.  To me it kind of reflects a weakness that is pervasive in the left.  It's no wonder the hard right is taking over. 

HughFreakingDillon

brianlux said:

The Lincoln Project tiki torch demonstration in Charlottesville is simply street theater which is an effective way to bring attention to an issue.  It was used very effectively during the Vietnam war to help bring an end to that atrocity.  I'm surprised to see so many left-leaning folks here denounce that demonstration.  To me it kind of reflects a weakness that is pervasive in the left.  It's no wonder the hard right is taking over. 

only because in today's day, it gives the right fodder for the whole "Jan 6 was antifa disguised as MAGA". 

The Juggler

brianlux said:

The Lincoln Project tiki torch demonstration in Charlottesville is simply street theater which is an effective way to bring attention to an issue.  It was used very effectively during the Vietnam war to help bring an end to that atrocity.  I'm surprised to see so many left-leaning folks here denounce that demonstration.  To me it kind of reflects a weakness that is pervasive in the left.  It's no wonder the hard right is taking over. 

This is the correct take, folks. 

brianlux

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

The Lincoln Project tiki torch demonstration in Charlottesville is simply street theater which is an effective way to bring attention to an issue.  It was used very effectively during the Vietnam war to help bring an end to that atrocity.  I'm surprised to see so many left-leaning folks here denounce that demonstration.  To me it kind of reflects a weakness that is pervasive in the left.  It's no wonder the hard right is taking over. 

only because in today's day, it gives the right fodder for the whole "Jan 6 was antifa disguised as MAGA". 

Except that there is a ton of information showing that Trump was hugely influential in making January 6 happen (see last night's Heather Cox Richards letter in Mickeyrat's thread) and the Lincoln Party claimed responsibility for their demonstration.  I have to stand by my words above and I'm not at all opposed to street theater.  The left needs to start taking some lessons from their own past and toughen up and we are going to be beaten down by an angry and aggressive far right.  History will bear me out on this. It's damn scary.

HughFreakingDillon

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

The Lincoln Project tiki torch demonstration in Charlottesville is simply street theater which is an effective way to bring attention to an issue.  It was used very effectively during the Vietnam war to help bring an end to that atrocity.  I'm surprised to see so many left-leaning folks here denounce that demonstration.  To me it kind of reflects a weakness that is pervasive in the left.  It's no wonder the hard right is taking over. 

only because in today's day, it gives the right fodder for the whole "Jan 6 was antifa disguised as MAGA". 

Except that there is a ton of information showing that Trump was hugely influential in making January 6 happen (see last night's Heather Cox Richards letter in Mickeyrat's thread) and the Lincoln Party claimed responsibility for their demonstration.  I have to stand by my words above and I'm not at all opposed to street theater.  The left needs to start taking some lessons from their own past and toughen up and we are going to be beaten down by an angry and aggressive far right.  History will bear me out on this. It's damn scary.

I get it. i honestly don't care what they did either way. I'm just saying sometimes it takes more effort to fight back false claims than it is to stage something like that in the first place. 

Gern Blansten

The Juggler said:

brianlux said:

The Lincoln Project tiki torch demonstration in Charlottesville is simply street theater which is an effective way to bring attention to an issue.  It was used very effectively during the Vietnam war to help bring an end to that atrocity.  I'm surprised to see so many left-leaning folks here denounce that demonstration.  To me it kind of reflects a weakness that is pervasive in the left.  It's no wonder the hard right is taking over. 

This is the correct take, folks. 

agreed....everyone knew they were fake right?

brianlux

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

The Lincoln Project tiki torch demonstration in Charlottesville is simply street theater which is an effective way to bring attention to an issue.  It was used very effectively during the Vietnam war to help bring an end to that atrocity.  I'm surprised to see so many left-leaning folks here denounce that demonstration.  To me it kind of reflects a weakness that is pervasive in the left.  It's no wonder the hard right is taking over. 

only because in today's day, it gives the right fodder for the whole "Jan 6 was antifa disguised as MAGA". 

Except that there is a ton of information showing that Trump was hugely influential in making January 6 happen (see last night's Heather Cox Richards letter in Mickeyrat's thread) and the Lincoln Party claimed responsibility for their demonstration.  I have to stand by my words above and I'm not at all opposed to street theater.  The left needs to start taking some lessons from their own past and toughen up and we are going to be beaten down by an angry and aggressive far right.  History will bear me out on this. It's damn scary.

I get it. i honestly don't care what they did either way. I'm just saying sometimes it takes more effort to fight back false claims than it is to stage something like that in the first place. 

True.

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

brianlux said:

The Lincoln Project tiki torch demonstration in Charlottesville is simply street theater which is an effective way to bring attention to an issue.  It was used very effectively during the Vietnam war to help bring an end to that atrocity.  I'm surprised to see so many left-leaning folks here denounce that demonstration.  To me it kind of reflects a weakness that is pervasive in the left.  It's no wonder the hard right is taking over. 

This is the correct take, folks. 

agreed....everyone knew they were fake right?

I hope so but reading some news sources and certain forums, you would think not.  I'm really puzzled about that.  It's so obvious they were parodying, not actually supporting racists!

Ledbetterman10

brianlux said:

I hope so but reading some news sources and certain forums, you would think not.  I'm really puzzled about that.  It's so obvious they were parodying, not actually supporting racists!

I'm not so sure they were doing either of these. They're obviously not supporting actual racists. But there's a difference between parodying and impersonating. If they're dressed like the white supremacists from that Charlottesville rally a few years ago, I think they're trying to make it look like those sort of people are supporting Youngkin and coming out to his political rallies. If one of them was wearing a shirt saying something like "I voted for Trump and all I got was this stupid tiki torch," then I guess that could qualify as parodying the Charlottesville rally. But just dressing up like them is not a parody. 

HughFreakingDillon

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

The Lincoln Project tiki torch demonstration in Charlottesville is simply street theater which is an effective way to bring attention to an issue.  It was used very effectively during the Vietnam war to help bring an end to that atrocity.  I'm surprised to see so many left-leaning folks here denounce that demonstration.  To me it kind of reflects a weakness that is pervasive in the left.  It's no wonder the hard right is taking over. 

only because in today's day, it gives the right fodder for the whole "Jan 6 was antifa disguised as MAGA". 

Except that there is a ton of information showing that Trump was hugely influential in making January 6 happen (see last night's Heather Cox Richards letter in Mickeyrat's thread) and the Lincoln Party claimed responsibility for their demonstration.  I have to stand by my words above and I'm not at all opposed to street theater.  The left needs to start taking some lessons from their own past and toughen up and we are going to be beaten down by an angry and aggressive far right.  History will bear me out on this. It's damn scary.

I get it. i honestly don't care what they did either way. I'm just saying sometimes it takes more effort to fight back false claims than it is to stage something like that in the first place. 

True.

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

brianlux said:

The Lincoln Project tiki torch demonstration in Charlottesville is simply street theater which is an effective way to bring attention to an issue.  It was used very effectively during the Vietnam war to help bring an end to that atrocity.  I'm surprised to see so many left-leaning folks here denounce that demonstration.  To me it kind of reflects a weakness that is pervasive in the left.  It's no wonder the hard right is taking over. 

This is the correct take, folks. 

agreed....everyone knew they were fake right?

I hope so but reading some news sources and certain forums, you would think not.  I'm really puzzled about that.  It's so obvious they were parodying, not actually supporting racists!

but that's the problem. right wing twitter reports that the lincoln project ("the left" LOL) are the real racists and they fucking believe it. and gives credence to the false flag narrative they all lap up constantly. there's really no winning in scenarios like these. 

static111

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

The Lincoln Project tiki torch demonstration in Charlottesville is simply street theater which is an effective way to bring attention to an issue.  It was used very effectively during the Vietnam war to help bring an end to that atrocity.  I'm surprised to see so many left-leaning folks here denounce that demonstration.  To me it kind of reflects a weakness that is pervasive in the left.  It's no wonder the hard right is taking over. 

only because in today's day, it gives the right fodder for the whole "Jan 6 was antifa disguised as MAGA". 

Except that there is a ton of information showing that Trump was hugely influential in making January 6 happen (see last night's Heather Cox Richards letter in Mickeyrat's thread) and the Lincoln Party claimed responsibility for their demonstration.  I have to stand by my words above and I'm not at all opposed to street theater.  The left needs to start taking some lessons from their own past and toughen up and we are going to be beaten down by an angry and aggressive far right.  History will bear me out on this. It's damn scary.

I get it. i honestly don't care what they did either way. I'm just saying sometimes it takes more effort to fight back false claims than it is to stage something like that in the first place. 

True.

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

brianlux said:

The Lincoln Project tiki torch demonstration in Charlottesville is simply street theater which is an effective way to bring attention to an issue.  It was used very effectively during the Vietnam war to help bring an end to that atrocity.  I'm surprised to see so many left-leaning folks here denounce that demonstration.  To me it kind of reflects a weakness that is pervasive in the left.  It's no wonder the hard right is taking over. 

This is the correct take, folks. 

agreed....everyone knew they were fake right?

I hope so but reading some news sources and certain forums, you would think not.  I'm really puzzled about that.  It's so obvious they were parodying, not actually supporting racists!

but that's the problem. right wing twitter reports that the lincoln project ("the left" LOL) are the real racists and they fucking believe it. and gives credence to the false flag narrative they all lap up constantly. there's really no winning in scenarios like these. 

To take this further, we have had a few anti Semitic incidents here in Austin recently.  The right wing media is blaming liberals, Critical race Theory and basically saying that the left are the true propagators of racism and that CRT is a tool to make people more racist etc...So LP pulling something like this definitely gives some legitimacy to that claim in the eyes of the right.