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    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    807,000 private sector jobs added in December, according to ADP.

    LETS GO BRANDON!!!
    Job numbers go up yet his disapproval rating hit a new high in December as well. https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/04/biden-disapproval-rating-high-voters-blame-him-on-economy-cnbc-poll.html

    Facts don't matter to some folks.
    60% of some folks eh? The next election isn't looking good for you or your 807,000 jobs.

    My 807,000 jobs? I’ve been gainfully employed since I was 14.

    60% of ‘Muricans are delusional. I’ll not enjoy watching ‘Murica implode from afar in November’22 and further in ‘24. Enjoy!
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    JB16057 said:
    I have one more thing to add to your "facts". The job numbers in November were much lower than anticipated. The job numbers in December were higher than anticipated which means that it equals itself out.

    Keep on bringing your selective facts!
    What are they since Brandon took office?
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,152
    JB16057 said:
    I have one more thing to add to your "facts". The job numbers in November were much lower than anticipated. The job numbers in December were higher than anticipated which means that it equals itself out.

    Keep on bringing your selective facts!
    compare clinton to bush 2nd's 2 terms, to obama, to trump. 

    it is a fact that democrats create more jobs, while republicans tank the economy every fucking time. look it up.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,250
    A trump supporter trying to clarify the jobs numbers to people is fucking hilarious to me. 
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    JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    A trump supporter trying to clarify the jobs numbers to people is fucking hilarious to me. 
    And all you can do is personally attack me...
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,250
    JB16057 said:
    A trump supporter trying to clarify the jobs numbers to people is fucking hilarious to me. 
    And all you can do is personally attack me...
    Is it?

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    JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    JB16057 said:
    A trump supporter trying to clarify the jobs numbers to people is fucking hilarious to me. 
    And all you can do is personally attack me...
    Is it?

    Was I arguing your chart here?

    I'm talking about Biden's approval rating is tanking. I'm not talking about RvsD and jobs. Nice deflection.
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,951
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    A trump supporter trying to clarify the jobs numbers to people is fucking hilarious to me. 
    And all you can do is personally attack me...
    Is it?

    Was I arguing your chart here?

    I'm talking about Biden's approval rating is tanking. I'm not talking about RvsD and jobs. Nice deflection.
    tanking?  It's still better than tRump's ever was isn't it?
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,628
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    A trump supporter trying to clarify the jobs numbers to people is fucking hilarious to me. 
    And all you can do is personally attack me...
    Is it?

    Was I arguing your chart here?

    I'm talking about Biden's approval rating is tanking. I'm not talking about RvsD and jobs. Nice deflection.
    So you agree that D's do a better job, but Americans are just stupid to recognize it?
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,250
    edited January 2022
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    A trump supporter trying to clarify the jobs numbers to people is fucking hilarious to me. 
    And all you can do is personally attack me...
    Is it?

    Was I arguing your chart here?

    I'm talking about Biden's approval rating is tanking. I'm not talking about RvsD and jobs. Nice deflection.
    tanking?  It's still better than tRump's ever was isn't it?
    Biden's low is right near Trump's high (which these people refused to believe back then, which is part of the reason, I think, they refuse to believe he lost). We've been through this before so many times. lol
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,814
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    807,000 private sector jobs added in December, according to ADP.

    LETS GO BRANDON!!!
    Job numbers go up yet his disapproval rating hit a new high in December as well. https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/04/biden-disapproval-rating-high-voters-blame-him-on-economy-cnbc-poll.html

    Facts don't matter to some folks.
    60% of some folks eh? The next election isn't looking good for you or your 807,000 jobs.

    I find it odd that people would decry "your 807,000 jobs" because it wasn't done by "your" guy. even if, as you say, it equaled out, jobs aren't down, so what's there to criticize here? if jobs don't decline during the worst period of the pandemic, i'd call that a win. 
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,475
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    A trump supporter trying to clarify the jobs numbers to people is fucking hilarious to me. 
    And all you can do is personally attack me...
    Is it?

    Was I arguing your chart here?

    I'm talking about Biden's approval rating is tanking. I'm not talking about RvsD and jobs. Nice deflection.
    So you agree that D's do a better job, but Americans are just stupid to recognize it?
    This is the gist of it.

    The country is doing better under Biden, but American's still disapprove of him because American's are stupid as shit. 


    Biden's disapproval rating doesn't own the libs they way JB thinks it does. 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,250
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    807,000 private sector jobs added in December, according to ADP.

    LETS GO BRANDON!!!
    Job numbers go up yet his disapproval rating hit a new high in December as well. https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/04/biden-disapproval-rating-high-voters-blame-him-on-economy-cnbc-poll.html

    Facts don't matter to some folks.
    60% of some folks eh? The next election isn't looking good for you or your 807,000 jobs.

    I find it odd that people would decry "your 807,000 jobs" because it wasn't done by "your" guy. even if, as you say, it equaled out, jobs aren't down, so what's there to criticize here? if jobs don't decline during the worst period of the pandemic, i'd call that a win. 
    Something tells me this guy will be rooting for people to lose their jobs and for a caravan to make it's way to the border as we inch closer to midterms. 

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    Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 16,771
    Just came here to say that if your barometer of approval is against Donald Trump I'd say people need to do better. Joe's in the tank for a number of reasons - and one very important one isn't because everyone all of a sudden woke up one day more conservative. Big part of it is because the people left of Joe are all also highly disappointed and disapprove. That's my two cents. Good chance Trump may not be the nom in 2024, but that doesn't make Joe's chances better. At this rate I think he loses in 4 years because 1) R nom will be someone other than Trump 2) Dems do better on referendum with a nominee with juice/hopey changey schtick 3) there won't be a Trump to ignite anyone and everyone.

    Gotta pray this 1/6 commission comes with so many receipts.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,628
    Just came here to say that if your barometer of approval is against Donald Trump I'd say people need to do better. Joe's in the tank for a number of reasons - and one very important one isn't because everyone all of a sudden woke up one day more conservative. Big part of it is because the people left of Joe are all also highly disappointed and disapprove. That's my two cents. Good chance Trump may not be the nom in 2024, but that doesn't make Joe's chances better. At this rate I think he loses in 4 years because 1) R nom will be someone other than Trump 2) Dems do better on referendum with a nominee with juice/hopey changey schtick 3) there won't be a Trump to ignite anyone and everyone.

    Gotta pray this 1/6 commission comes with so many receipts.
    I don't think he'll run again.  I guess we'll see, but I am happy with Joe right now, and with him being a transition to the future.  I'd like to see Pete run.  I'd vote for him.  
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,250
    Just came here to say that if your barometer of approval is against Donald Trump I'd say people need to do better. Joe's in the tank for a number of reasons - and one very important one isn't because everyone all of a sudden woke up one day more conservative. Big part of it is because the people left of Joe are all also highly disappointed and disapprove. That's my two cents. Good chance Trump may not be the nom in 2024, but that doesn't make Joe's chances better. At this rate I think he loses in 4 years because 1) R nom will be someone other than Trump 2) Dems do better on referendum with a nominee with juice/hopey changey schtick 3) there won't be a Trump to ignite anyone and everyone.

    Gotta pray this 1/6 commission comes with so many receipts.
    This is part of the problem democrats have. I've talked about this a lot in here. Republicans are better at getting everyone in their party to fall in line no matter what. Republicans, in general, just seem to not care about anything other than voting for the person with the R next to his name so it makes things much easier for that party. For example, the guy in here today seems upset that the jobs numbers are looking good right now. Something that's good for the country is not that great for his party so he's not happy. 

    The dems, on the other hand, have a much bigger tent of waaaay more diverse people, which is great, but that also makes it more difficult for them to get their constituents to have the level of patience needed to stay focused on maintaining the longest view in the room. The change those on the far left want just cannot happen over night. It will take multiple election cycles.

    Personally--I just wish people would make preserving our democracy priority number for the moment because if we cannot do that, nothing else will matter anyway. 

    And I really hope Trump gets the nomination because, yeah I agree, someone like Desantis would have better chance of winning. 
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    JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    Just came here to say that if your barometer of approval is against Donald Trump I'd say people need to do better. Joe's in the tank for a number of reasons - and one very important one isn't because everyone all of a sudden woke up one day more conservative. Big part of it is because the people left of Joe are all also highly disappointed and disapprove. That's my two cents. Good chance Trump may not be the nom in 2024, but that doesn't make Joe's chances better. At this rate I think he loses in 4 years because 1) R nom will be someone other than Trump 2) Dems do better on referendum with a nominee with juice/hopey changey schtick 3) there won't be a Trump to ignite anyone and everyone.

    Gotta pray this 1/6 commission comes with so many receipts.
    This is part of the problem democrats have. I've talked about this a lot in here. Republicans are better at getting everyone in their party to fall in line no matter what. Republicans, in general, just seem to not care about anything other than voting for the person with the R next to his name so it makes things much easier for that party. For example, the guy in here today seems upset that the jobs numbers are looking good right now. Something that's good for the country is not that great for his party so he's not happy. 

    The dems, on the other hand, have a much bigger tent of waaaay more diverse people, which is great, but that also makes it more difficult for them to get their constituents to have the level of patience needed to stay focused on maintaining the longest view in the room. The change those on the far left want just cannot happen over night. It will take multiple election cycles.

    Personally--I just wish people would make preserving our democracy priority number for the moment because if we cannot do that, nothing else will matter anyway. 

    And I really hope Trump gets the nomination because, yeah I agree, someone like Desantis would have better chance of winning. 
    Do you believe our democracy is in danger? Democrats are in full control of the national government. Are they failing at protecting or democracy? I had to hear for 4 years that Trump was destroying our democracy. If that was true, how did Democrats gain full power?

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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,814
    Just came here to say that if your barometer of approval is against Donald Trump I'd say people need to do better. Joe's in the tank for a number of reasons - and one very important one isn't because everyone all of a sudden woke up one day more conservative. Big part of it is because the people left of Joe are all also highly disappointed and disapprove. That's my two cents. Good chance Trump may not be the nom in 2024, but that doesn't make Joe's chances better. At this rate I think he loses in 4 years because 1) R nom will be someone other than Trump 2) Dems do better on referendum with a nominee with juice/hopey changey schtick 3) there won't be a Trump to ignite anyone and everyone.

    Gotta pray this 1/6 commission comes with so many receipts.
    This is part of the problem democrats have. I've talked about this a lot in here. Republicans are better at getting everyone in their party to fall in line no matter what. Republicans, in general, just seem to not care about anything other than voting for the person with the R next to his name so it makes things much easier for that party. For example, the guy in here today seems upset that the jobs numbers are looking good right now. Something that's good for the country is not that great for his party so he's not happy. 

    The dems, on the other hand, have a much bigger tent of waaaay more diverse people, which is great, but that also makes it more difficult for them to get their constituents to have the level of patience needed to stay focused on maintaining the longest view in the room. The change those on the far left want just cannot happen over night. It will take multiple election cycles.

    Personally--I just wish people would make preserving our democracy priority number for the moment because if we cannot do that, nothing else will matter anyway. 

    And I really hope Trump gets the nomination because, yeah I agree, someone like Desantis would have better chance of winning. 
    AKA keep the Squad quiet during the next primary season. lol
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    Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 16,771
    Just came here to say that if your barometer of approval is against Donald Trump I'd say people need to do better. Joe's in the tank for a number of reasons - and one very important one isn't because everyone all of a sudden woke up one day more conservative. Big part of it is because the people left of Joe are all also highly disappointed and disapprove. That's my two cents. Good chance Trump may not be the nom in 2024, but that doesn't make Joe's chances better. At this rate I think he loses in 4 years because 1) R nom will be someone other than Trump 2) Dems do better on referendum with a nominee with juice/hopey changey schtick 3) there won't be a Trump to ignite anyone and everyone.

    Gotta pray this 1/6 commission comes with so many receipts.
    This is part of the problem democrats have. I've talked about this a lot in here. Republicans are better at getting everyone in their party to fall in line no matter what. Republicans, in general, just seem to not care about anything other than voting for the person with the R next to his name so it makes things much easier for that party. For example, the guy in here today seems upset that the jobs numbers are looking good right now. Something that's good for the country is not that great for his party so he's not happy. 

    The dems, on the other hand, have a much bigger tent of waaaay more diverse people, which is great, but that also makes it more difficult for them to get their constituents to have the level of patience needed to stay focused on maintaining the longest view in the room. The change those on the far left want just cannot happen over night. It will take multiple election cycles.

    Personally--I just wish people would make preserving our democracy priority number for the moment because if we cannot do that, nothing else will matter anyway. 

    And I really hope Trump gets the nomination because, yeah I agree, someone like Desantis would have better chance of winning. 
    Agree that change is incremental. But I also don't agree that like the left/progressive wing has been winning all this reform they've wanted - basically nothing that gets said in an ad hominem, or whatever dumb social media space, has ever been achieved. Let progressive policies take effect and then we can come back and evaluate.

    But regardless I'm highly disappointed - and this goes to almost all leadership at all levels - with how little change will come from something that should motivate a ton. The past two years of living with a pandemic if anything should only amplify the need of major infrastructural and systemic change that should occur. It is astoundingly disappointing.

    I don't necessarily agree with you with the big tent vs. idiocracy segments. I think it's more that the baked-in design of a two party system allows the Rs to even have a chance. 

    But, yeah, for the most part Republican policy - both monetary and fiscally - are gigantic piles of trash and usually result in nearly every recession we've run into with the Dem having to clean up the mess.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,628
    JB16057 said:
    Just came here to say that if your barometer of approval is against Donald Trump I'd say people need to do better. Joe's in the tank for a number of reasons - and one very important one isn't because everyone all of a sudden woke up one day more conservative. Big part of it is because the people left of Joe are all also highly disappointed and disapprove. That's my two cents. Good chance Trump may not be the nom in 2024, but that doesn't make Joe's chances better. At this rate I think he loses in 4 years because 1) R nom will be someone other than Trump 2) Dems do better on referendum with a nominee with juice/hopey changey schtick 3) there won't be a Trump to ignite anyone and everyone.

    Gotta pray this 1/6 commission comes with so many receipts.
    This is part of the problem democrats have. I've talked about this a lot in here. Republicans are better at getting everyone in their party to fall in line no matter what. Republicans, in general, just seem to not care about anything other than voting for the person with the R next to his name so it makes things much easier for that party. For example, the guy in here today seems upset that the jobs numbers are looking good right now. Something that's good for the country is not that great for his party so he's not happy. 

    The dems, on the other hand, have a much bigger tent of waaaay more diverse people, which is great, but that also makes it more difficult for them to get their constituents to have the level of patience needed to stay focused on maintaining the longest view in the room. The change those on the far left want just cannot happen over night. It will take multiple election cycles.

    Personally--I just wish people would make preserving our democracy priority number for the moment because if we cannot do that, nothing else will matter anyway. 

    And I really hope Trump gets the nomination because, yeah I agree, someone like Desantis would have better chance of winning. 
    Do you believe our democracy is in danger? Democrats are in full control of the national government. Are they failing at protecting or democracy? I had to hear for 4 years that Trump was destroying our democracy. If that was true, how did Democrats gain full power?

    One of the key outputs of the select committee is intended to close the loopholes that are inherent in the Election Act of 1877.  So yes, that will definitely help protect democracy. 
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    Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 16,771
    Does this guy totally ignore what happened a year ago, too?
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    JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    Does this guy totally ignore what happened a year ago, too?
    Did you ignore what totally happened? Democracy prevailed.

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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,250
    Does this guy totally ignore what happened a year ago, too?
    "A failed coup. Meh, big deal." Literally 95% of the Republican party at this point. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,628
    JB16057 said:
    Does this guy totally ignore what happened a year ago, too?
    Did you ignore what totally happened? Democracy prevailed.

    The center held, I agree.  Will it hold next time?  Will it hold if a legislature goes rogue and two sets of electors get sent, one certified, one not?  Have you not thought of these possibilities?
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,250
    edited January 2022
    JB16057 said:
    Does this guy totally ignore what happened a year ago, too?
    Did you ignore what totally happened? Democracy prevailed.

    Are you aware that some folks try things again if they fail the first time around? And they learn from their mistakes and get better at it moving forward?

    Tons of insurrectionists and believers of Trumps lie are running for local, state, and federal government positions. Many, even low level local candidates are endorsed by Trump. That's unprecedented. Almost 20 Republican led states have changed their election laws based off the lie that Trump did not actually lose the election. 

    Open your eyes. 
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,814
    JB16057 said:
    Does this guy totally ignore what happened a year ago, too?
    Did you ignore what totally happened? Democracy prevailed.

    no thanks to most republicans in congress. 
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    JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Just came here to say that if your barometer of approval is against Donald Trump I'd say people need to do better. Joe's in the tank for a number of reasons - and one very important one isn't because everyone all of a sudden woke up one day more conservative. Big part of it is because the people left of Joe are all also highly disappointed and disapprove. That's my two cents. Good chance Trump may not be the nom in 2024, but that doesn't make Joe's chances better. At this rate I think he loses in 4 years because 1) R nom will be someone other than Trump 2) Dems do better on referendum with a nominee with juice/hopey changey schtick 3) there won't be a Trump to ignite anyone and everyone.

    Gotta pray this 1/6 commission comes with so many receipts.
    This is part of the problem democrats have. I've talked about this a lot in here. Republicans are better at getting everyone in their party to fall in line no matter what. Republicans, in general, just seem to not care about anything other than voting for the person with the R next to his name so it makes things much easier for that party. For example, the guy in here today seems upset that the jobs numbers are looking good right now. Something that's good for the country is not that great for his party so he's not happy. 

    The dems, on the other hand, have a much bigger tent of waaaay more diverse people, which is great, but that also makes it more difficult for them to get their constituents to have the level of patience needed to stay focused on maintaining the longest view in the room. The change those on the far left want just cannot happen over night. It will take multiple election cycles.

    Personally--I just wish people would make preserving our democracy priority number for the moment because if we cannot do that, nothing else will matter anyway. 

    And I really hope Trump gets the nomination because, yeah I agree, someone like Desantis would have better chance of winning. 
    Do you believe our democracy is in danger? Democrats are in full control of the national government. Are they failing at protecting or democracy? I had to hear for 4 years that Trump was destroying our democracy. If that was true, how did Democrats gain full power?

    One of the key outputs of the select committee is intended to close the loopholes that are inherent in the Election Act of 1877.  So yes, that will definitely help protect democracy. 
    Biden received the most votes of any President and is now the most powerful leader in the world. Damn those loopholes eh?

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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,814
    so the US president is now the supreme leader and dictator of the country? wow. good to know. 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,250
    edited January 2022
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Just came here to say that if your barometer of approval is against Donald Trump I'd say people need to do better. Joe's in the tank for a number of reasons - and one very important one isn't because everyone all of a sudden woke up one day more conservative. Big part of it is because the people left of Joe are all also highly disappointed and disapprove. That's my two cents. Good chance Trump may not be the nom in 2024, but that doesn't make Joe's chances better. At this rate I think he loses in 4 years because 1) R nom will be someone other than Trump 2) Dems do better on referendum with a nominee with juice/hopey changey schtick 3) there won't be a Trump to ignite anyone and everyone.

    Gotta pray this 1/6 commission comes with so many receipts.
    This is part of the problem democrats have. I've talked about this a lot in here. Republicans are better at getting everyone in their party to fall in line no matter what. Republicans, in general, just seem to not care about anything other than voting for the person with the R next to his name so it makes things much easier for that party. For example, the guy in here today seems upset that the jobs numbers are looking good right now. Something that's good for the country is not that great for his party so he's not happy. 

    The dems, on the other hand, have a much bigger tent of waaaay more diverse people, which is great, but that also makes it more difficult for them to get their constituents to have the level of patience needed to stay focused on maintaining the longest view in the room. The change those on the far left want just cannot happen over night. It will take multiple election cycles.

    Personally--I just wish people would make preserving our democracy priority number for the moment because if we cannot do that, nothing else will matter anyway. 

    And I really hope Trump gets the nomination because, yeah I agree, someone like Desantis would have better chance of winning. 
    Do you believe our democracy is in danger? Democrats are in full control of the national government. Are they failing at protecting or democracy? I had to hear for 4 years that Trump was destroying our democracy. If that was true, how did Democrats gain full power?

    One of the key outputs of the select committee is intended to close the loopholes that are inherent in the Election Act of 1877.  So yes, that will definitely help protect democracy. 
    Biden received the most votes of any President and is now the most powerful leader in the world. Damn those loopholes eh?

    Exhibit A of why preserving democracy should be our absolute top priority right now. This guy is now representative of almost the entire Republican party. It used to just to be the bottom 20-30% of Trump's base who believed all the bullshit. It's now almost all of them.

    Big work lies ahead. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,628
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Just came here to say that if your barometer of approval is against Donald Trump I'd say people need to do better. Joe's in the tank for a number of reasons - and one very important one isn't because everyone all of a sudden woke up one day more conservative. Big part of it is because the people left of Joe are all also highly disappointed and disapprove. That's my two cents. Good chance Trump may not be the nom in 2024, but that doesn't make Joe's chances better. At this rate I think he loses in 4 years because 1) R nom will be someone other than Trump 2) Dems do better on referendum with a nominee with juice/hopey changey schtick 3) there won't be a Trump to ignite anyone and everyone.

    Gotta pray this 1/6 commission comes with so many receipts.
    This is part of the problem democrats have. I've talked about this a lot in here. Republicans are better at getting everyone in their party to fall in line no matter what. Republicans, in general, just seem to not care about anything other than voting for the person with the R next to his name so it makes things much easier for that party. For example, the guy in here today seems upset that the jobs numbers are looking good right now. Something that's good for the country is not that great for his party so he's not happy. 

    The dems, on the other hand, have a much bigger tent of waaaay more diverse people, which is great, but that also makes it more difficult for them to get their constituents to have the level of patience needed to stay focused on maintaining the longest view in the room. The change those on the far left want just cannot happen over night. It will take multiple election cycles.

    Personally--I just wish people would make preserving our democracy priority number for the moment because if we cannot do that, nothing else will matter anyway. 

    And I really hope Trump gets the nomination because, yeah I agree, someone like Desantis would have better chance of winning. 
    Do you believe our democracy is in danger? Democrats are in full control of the national government. Are they failing at protecting or democracy? I had to hear for 4 years that Trump was destroying our democracy. If that was true, how did Democrats gain full power?

    One of the key outputs of the select committee is intended to close the loopholes that are inherent in the Election Act of 1877.  So yes, that will definitely help protect democracy. 
    Biden received the most votes of any President and is now the most powerful leader in the world. Damn those loopholes eh?

    This is a joke, right?  It held because Pence did his duty.  What if a VP in the future takes a different course and tries to throw the electino to the House because they throw out electors?  It held because Raffensberger refused to do Trump's bidding.  What if the next Sec'y of State of a swing state bows to political pressure from either side?  The Bulwark had a good article talking about how if there were 5 more Guiliani's in teh mix, things may have been different.  I suggest you educate yourself on how many holes in the laws exist that need to be tightened. 
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