BST really needs to start being transparent with plans. I just read a tweet from BBC noting that the PM is concerned about a third wave:
Boris Johnson has warned the effects of a third wave of coronavirus will "wash up on our shores" from Europe.
The PM said the UK should be "under no illusion" we will "feel effects" of growing cases on the continent.
His comments come amid a row over Covid vaccine supplies, after the president of the European Commission warning the EU could "forbid" doses made in the bloc from being exported to the UK.
EU leaders will hold a virtual meeting on Thursday to discuss their plans.
So, why continue on all honky dory with a music festival in the heart of London in early July? It'll be April soon, and this possible third wave may come very soon. I want to go to London to see PJ as much as the next person, maybe even more anxious, but the optics don't look good. Americans shouldn't have to risk their health to attend a concert in a different country during a pandemic and new variants.
Taken out of context - his point was we should crack on with vaccines so we were in good shape for any 3rd wave carriers from the EU.
Uk numbers are incredible and moving so fast it could be almost a bad memory by July.
BTW pedant alert - but Wireless takes place at Finsbury Park, I believe.
You are correct and I should've had my first and probably second coffees of the day before checking my emails and hurriedly reporting back here :')
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BST really needs to start being transparent with plans. I just read a tweet from BBC noting that the PM is concerned about a third wave:
Boris Johnson has warned the effects of a third wave of coronavirus will "wash up on our shores" from Europe.
The PM said the UK should be "under no illusion" we will "feel effects" of growing cases on the continent.
His comments come amid a row over Covid vaccine supplies, after the president of the European Commission warning the EU could "forbid" doses made in the bloc from being exported to the UK.
EU leaders will hold a virtual meeting on Thursday to discuss their plans.
So, why continue on all honky dory with a music festival in the heart of London in early July? It'll be April soon, and this possible third wave may come very soon. I want to go to London to see PJ as much as the next person, maybe even more anxious, but the optics don't look good. Americans shouldn't have to risk their health to attend a concert in a different country during a pandemic and new variants.
Agree it would be good to get some news from BST (even something along the lines of “we are discussing our plans with the bands and government”).
Please don’t take this the wrong way but if you are uncomfortable about risking your health travelling abroad, the best advice is not to go. I have tickets for a bunch of shows in mainland Europe but I’m not going there given vaccination rates, even if they were to go ahead. For me it’s BST or none this year.
I know it doesn’t mean anything but just for fun I am mentioning I received notice that a payment plan payment on my purchase will be processed later this week.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
I'm kind of at the point that even if BST does happen as scheduled in July, I don't think I'm going. It's not because I think the event would be unsafe, but I just don't think the international trip is going to be fun with all the flight restrictions that will still be there, the testing requirements, proof of vaccination, etc. I think a show summer 2022 would be WAY more fun than a show summer 2021. I'd rather wait the extra year to have that experience. But I totally understand/am fine if they end up doing the show this year. I can definitely understand the folks in the UK who are wanting it to happen as planned.
For what it's worth (which may not be much at all, but just throwing it out there), I got an email from Ticketmaster this morning announcing that tickets for Wireless (another major festival taking place in Hyde Park during the first week of July) will go on sale tomorrow.
We're just over 3 months away. Surely they wouldn't put them on sale tomorrow without a fair amount of confidence?
Latest update from Ticketmaster today is that Wireless has been bumped to September and moved from Finsbury Park to Crystal Palace Park.
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For what it's worth (which may not be much at all, but just throwing it out there), I got an email from Ticketmaster this morning announcing that tickets for Wireless (another major festival taking place in Hyde Park during the first week of July) will go on sale tomorrow.
We're just over 3 months away. Surely they wouldn't put them on sale tomorrow without a fair amount of confidence?
Latest update from Ticketmaster today is that Wireless has been bumped to September and moved from Finsbury Park to Crystal Palace Park.
Do we now have enough prove that BST is not going ahead as scheduled?
Would be ballsy/reckless for BST to stay in its current slot. The complication for BST is that it has already been selling tickets for a specific line-up on a specific date, whereas Wireless had announced a date but hadn't revealed a line-up or started selling tickets.
The only weekend I could not make in the entire year is the first weekend of September. Given that Wireless is the second and given the SHN and Ohana dates it would appear the first weekend in September would be BST’s best option. Naturally...
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Is BST the only festival that hasn't been moved yet ?
Its getting that way although I would argue its a concert in a field as opposed what i think a festival represents. So as a stand alone concert maybe they are in a different category. Not that it really matters what we call it
Is BST the only festival that hasn't been moved yet ?
There are others that haven't moved - Reading/Leeds, All Points East, etc. But the difference is that they're all later in the year. Now that Wireless has moved, BST is the first major music event to take place after the June 21 target.
It is possible that some football matches at Wembley could be taking place though (70,000+ fans), as the Euros are on and Wembley is hosting the England home matches plus (I think) one of the semis and the final itself. Whether or not that'll happen though is anyone's guess.
For what it's worth (which may not be much at all, but just throwing it out there), I got an email from Ticketmaster this morning announcing that tickets for Wireless (another major festival taking place in Hyde Park during the first week of July) will go on sale tomorrow.
We're just over 3 months away. Surely they wouldn't put them on sale tomorrow without a fair amount of confidence?
Latest update from Ticketmaster today is that Wireless has been bumped to September and moved from Finsbury Park to Crystal Palace Park.
Do we now have enough prove that BST is not going ahead as scheduled?
I know it doesn’t mean anything but just for fun I am mentioning I received notice that a payment plan payment on my purchase will be processed later this week.
And now payment processed. Show is on for sure now, right? Hahaha
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
I know it doesn’t mean anything but just for fun I am mentioning I received notice that a payment plan payment on my purchase will be processed later this week.
And now payment processed. Show is on for sure now, right? Hahaha
If you are the promoter you want to hang onto punters money as long as possible.
Let's not forget the original date had to be refunded then we had to go through the hassle of getting 10C tickets for this second date.
Fans are being dicked around here - no problem for me as the venue is less than an hour away - I feel sorry for fans who have tickets and are much further away.
May be the promoter who is delaying but PJ have some obligation to fans.
Duran Duran playing Isle of Wight which is taking place September 16-19. Would they do Hyde Park and Isle of Wight in the same year/month?
I think there's a higher chance of Duran Duran playing Hyde Park in September than there is of Pearl Jam. I don't know for sure, but I don't think Duran Duran's shows were part of a full European tour.
Now, I'm pretty sure that not all of Duran Duran live in the UK, but what's interesting about that Isle of Wight line up is that most, if not all, the acts advertised on the poster that went up earlier are UK based. There's a notable lack of international artists which gives an indication of where those organisers think things will be come September. Shows with talent from home might be able to go ahead without an issue but international touring is likely to still be a no-no.
A democracy on paper, apparently well ordered, regularly subverted by irrational chaos.
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Dublin - 23/8/2006
London - 18/6/2007
New York City - 24/6/2008
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Manchester - 18/8/2009
Now, I'm pretty sure that not all of Duran Duran live in the UK, but what's interesting about that Isle of Wight line up is that most, if not all, the acts advertised on the poster that went up earlier are UK based. There's a notable lack of international artists which gives an indication of where those organisers think things will be come September. Shows with talent from home might be able to go ahead without an issue but international touring is likely to still be a no-no.
Duran Duran playing Isle of Wight which is taking place September 16-19. Would they do Hyde Park and Isle of Wight in the same year/month?
IoW was sharing Duran Duran with BST anyway, so if anything the fact that IoW moved to September possibly suggests that BST would be MORE likely to move to Sept IMO. That said, the rumours persist that BST isn't intending to move at the moment, although they have scoped out Sept as a plan b.
Duran Duran playing Isle of Wight which is taking place September 16-19. Would they do Hyde Park and Isle of Wight in the same year/month?
I think there's a higher chance of Duran Duran playing Hyde Park in September than there is of Pearl Jam. I don't know for sure, but I don't think Duran Duran's shows were part of a full European tour.
Now, I'm pretty sure that not all of Duran Duran live in the UK, but what's interesting about that Isle of Wight line up is that most, if not all, the acts advertised on the poster that went up earlier are UK based. There's a notable lack of international artists which gives an indication of where those organisers think things will be come September. Shows with talent from home might be able to go ahead without an issue but international touring is likely to still be a no-no.
Indeed. And another couple of festivals that announced their line ups this week (TRNSMT and Victorious) also have all British Line ups (Royal Blood, Liam Gallagher etc)
drfox said: Indeed. And another couple of festivals that announced their line ups this week (TRNSMT and Victorious) also have all British Line ups (Royal Blood, Liam Gallagher etc)
Southsea Victorious? It's literally a 10-minute walk for me. I'm probably attending only one day (Sunday) this year. I've never seen Morcheeba live though... I wish PJ headline Victorious one day.
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drfox said: Indeed. And another couple of festivals that announced their line ups this week (TRNSMT and Victorious) also have all British Line ups (Royal Blood, Liam Gallagher etc)
Southsea Victorious? It's literally a 10-minute walk for me. I'm probably attending only one day (Sunday) this year. I've never seen Morcheeba live though... I wish PJ headline Victorious one day.
Skye is back in Morcheeba again these days isnt she? Be well worth catching them if so.
drfox said: Indeed. And another couple of festivals that announced their line ups this week (TRNSMT and Victorious) also have all British Line ups (Royal Blood, Liam Gallagher etc)
Southsea Victorious? It's literally a 10-minute walk for me. I'm probably attending only one day (Sunday) this year. I've never seen Morcheeba live though... I wish PJ headline Victorious one day.
Skye is back in Morcheeba again these days isnt she? Be well worth catching them if so.
Precisely. That's the main reason why I want to see them.
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Barcelona did a concert tonight with 5000 people indoors with masks and without distancing. They had to take antigen tests earlier in the day. The event was for research purposes to see how infection rates among attendees compare with those of the general population. That’ll be interesting to see over the next few weeks. I don’t think vaccination was a requirement for this one.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Barcelona did a concert tonight with 5000 people indoors with masks and without distancing. They had to take antigen tests earlier in the day. The event was for research purposes to see how infection rates among attendees compare with those of the general population. That’ll be interesting to see over the next few weeks. I don’t think vaccination was a requirement for this one.
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Uk numbers are incredible and moving so fast it could be almost a bad memory by July.
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
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Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Leeds 2006, London 2007, Hartford 2008, London Shepherds Bush 2009, London O2 2009, Dublin 2010, London Hyde Park 2010, Amsterdam 1 2012, Amsterdam 2 2012, Berlin 1 2012, EV solo London 30/7/2012, Berlin 2014, Stockholm 2014, Milton Keynes 2014, Amsterdam 1 2018, London 1 2018, London 2 2018, EV solo Dublin 2019, London 1 2022, London 2 2022, New York City 2022
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
It is possible that some football matches at Wembley could be taking place though (70,000+ fans), as the Euros are on and Wembley is hosting the England home matches plus (I think) one of the semis and the final itself. Whether or not that'll happen though is anyone's guess.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Let's not forget the original date had to be refunded then we had to go through the hassle of getting 10C tickets for this second date.
Fans are being dicked around here - no problem for me as the venue is less than an hour away - I feel sorry for fans who have tickets and are much further away.
May be the promoter who is delaying but PJ have some obligation to fans.
Manchester - 4/6/2000
London - 20/4/2006
Dublin - 23/8/2006
London - 18/6/2007
New York City - 24/6/2008
New York City - 25/6/2008 - we will be "what is up" New York
Manchester - 18/8/2009
London - 18/6/2018
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023