I just did some quick research on tickets and wonder if anyone knew what the difference was between GA and Primary Entry tickets. Also the 10C section shown is the general public sale tickets in here too or just 10C allowed in? If the general public tickets are included is that the primary entry option?
Not certain but I think primary entry just gets in early but not the front section, 10c section is available to the public i imagine because 10c didn't sell it out ?
I just did some quick research on tickets and wonder if anyone knew what the difference was between GA and Primary Entry tickets. Also the 10C section shown is the general public sale tickets in here too or just 10C allowed in? If the general public tickets are included is that the primary entry option?
Not certain but I think primary entry just gets in early but not the front section, 10c section is available to the public i imagine because 10c didn't sell it out ?
Any clue what the name of those tickets would have been? Any secondary sites that are reputable? Also why am I looking this shit up right now...?
I just did some quick research on tickets and wonder if anyone knew what the difference was between GA and Primary Entry tickets. Also the 10C section shown is the general public sale tickets in here too or just 10C allowed in? If the general public tickets are included is that the primary entry option?
Not certain but I think primary entry just gets in early but not the front section, 10c section is available to the public i imagine because 10c didn't sell it out ?
Any clue what the name of those tickets would have been? Any secondary sites that are reputable? Also why am I looking this shit up right now...?
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
They were an option for 10C members who had tickets for the cancelled 2020 BST show, entry is 15minutes before 10C tickets. Weren't an obvious choice when buying but were there on the pre sale.
They were an option for 10C members who had tickets for the cancelled 2020 BST show, entry is 15minutes before 10C tickets. Weren't an obvious choice when buying but were there on the pre sale.
Ah, so 10c section but early entry. Got it. If anyone has an extra...
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
They were an option for 10C members who had tickets for the cancelled 2020 BST show, entry is 15minutes before 10C tickets. Weren't an obvious choice when buying but were there on the pre sale.
What are the chances these shows go off as planned? Will it be ok to gather in large numbers by July?
Very doubtful id say as planned, if they go ahead id think they either get pushed back a couple of months or there are some restrictions if its the original date, reduced numbers, proof of vaccination etc
What are the chances these shows go off as planned? Will it be ok to gather in large numbers by July?
Very doubtful id say as planned, if they go ahead id think they either get pushed back a couple of months or there are some restrictions if its the original date, reduced numbers, proof of vaccination etc
Yeah I can’t see these happening in any normal fashion of what used to be the norm.
What are the chances these shows go off as planned? Will it be ok to gather in large numbers by July?
Very doubtful id say as planned, if they go ahead id think they either get pushed back a couple of months or there are some restrictions if its the original date, reduced numbers, proof of vaccination etc
Yeah I can’t see these happening in any normal fashion of what used to be the norm.
The noise in the UK last few days has changed a little i think from everything will be normal to everything will be able to open but maybe with some restrictions at first, I can see some social distancing still in place a little longer than originally hoped. September also maybe suits the band better to tie in with the US shows
What are the chances these shows go off as planned? Will it be ok to gather in large numbers by July?
Very doubtful id say as planned, if they go ahead id think they either get pushed back a couple of months or there are some restrictions if its the original date, reduced numbers, proof of vaccination etc
Yeah I can’t see these happening in any normal fashion of what used to be the norm.
The noise in the UK last few days has changed a little i think from everything will be normal to everything will be able to open but maybe with some restrictions at first, I can see some social distancing still in place a little longer than originally hoped. September also maybe suits the band better to tie in with the US shows
The crazy thing about this virus is even being vaccinated doesn’t protect you from getting infected it just curves the symptoms, my coworker who has been vaccinated ended up catching it after being vaccinated she had to quarantine for two weeks..
What are the chances these shows go off as planned? Will it be ok to gather in large numbers by July?
Very doubtful id say as planned, if they go ahead id think they either get pushed back a couple of months or there are some restrictions if its the original date, reduced numbers, proof of vaccination etc
Yeah I can’t see these happening in any normal fashion of what used to be the norm.
The noise in the UK last few days has changed a little i think from everything will be normal to everything will be able to open but maybe with some restrictions at first, I can see some social distancing still in place a little longer than originally hoped. September also maybe suits the band better to tie in with the US shows
The crazy thing about this virus is even being vaccinated doesn’t protect you from getting infected it just curves the symptoms, my coworker who has been vaccinated ended up catching it after being vaccinated she had to quarantine for two weeks..
Keeping people from dying and from having severe enough symptoms that they need to be hospitalized is all the vaccine needs to do though imo. Once everyone gets vaccinated that wants it there should be no more quarantining or restrictions. There should be no scenario where my family and I get vaccinated to help the older and more vulnerable population not get sick from this virus and still have restrictions in place since there is a part of the population that does not believe in the science behind it.
What are the chances these shows go off as planned? Will it be ok to gather in large numbers by July?
Very doubtful id say as planned, if they go ahead id think they either get pushed back a couple of months or there are some restrictions if its the original date, reduced numbers, proof of vaccination etc
Yeah I can’t see these happening in any normal fashion of what used to be the norm.
The noise in the UK last few days has changed a little i think from everything will be normal to everything will be able to open but maybe with some restrictions at first, I can see some social distancing still in place a little longer than originally hoped. September also maybe suits the band better to tie in with the US shows
The crazy thing about this virus is even being vaccinated doesn’t protect you from getting infected it just curves the symptoms, my coworker who has been vaccinated ended up catching it after being vaccinated she had to quarantine for two weeks..
Keeping people from dying and from having severe enough symptoms that they need to be hospitalized is all the vaccine needs to do though imo. Once everyone gets vaccinated that wants it there should be no more quarantining or restrictions. There should be no scenario where my family and I get vaccinated to help the older and more vulnerable population not get sick from this virus and still have restrictions in place since there is a part of the population that does not believe in the science behind it.
Yes all true it’s going to come down to individual choice I’m not sure what it’s going to look like after vaccine is readily available to everyone but if infection rates don’t go down that’s not good! The infection rates here have flattened but that’s not what needs to happen they need to keep going down ..
What are the chances these shows go off as planned? Will it be ok to gather in large numbers by July?
Very doubtful id say as planned, if they go ahead id think they either get pushed back a couple of months or there are some restrictions if its the original date, reduced numbers, proof of vaccination etc
Yeah I can’t see these happening in any normal fashion of what used to be the norm.
The noise in the UK last few days has changed a little i think from everything will be normal to everything will be able to open but maybe with some restrictions at first, I can see some social distancing still in place a little longer than originally hoped. September also maybe suits the band better to tie in with the US shows
The crazy thing about this virus is even being vaccinated doesn’t protect you from getting infected it just curves the symptoms, my coworker who has been vaccinated ended up catching it after being vaccinated she had to quarantine for two weeks..
Keeping people from dying and from having severe enough symptoms that they need to be hospitalized is all the vaccine needs to do though imo. Once everyone gets vaccinated that wants it there should be no more quarantining or restrictions. There should be no scenario where my family and I get vaccinated to help the older and more vulnerable population not get sick from this virus and still have restrictions in place since there is a part of the population that does not believe in the science behind it.
Yes all true it’s going to come down to individual choice I’m not sure what it’s going to look like after vaccine is readily available to everyone but if infection rates don’t go down that’s not good! The infection rates here have flattened but that’s not what needs to happen they need to keep going down ..
I get that for sure. High case counts still mean that some of the vaccinated people have a small chance of being severely sick or die too but I feel at some point our focus needs to shift away from case counts. Hospitalizations and deaths nose diving is what matters most and I hope the vaccine over the next couple of months does what it is supposed to do.
I think the plan is to push the arena shows to spring 2022 and try for the 4 festival shows in late Aug and Sep. I am not saying these shows are happening just that it makes the most amount of sense if they are clinging on to hope of something this year going on.
Pink Pop Aug 27-29 Hyde Park Sep 3,4 SHN Sep 18,19 Ohana Sep 24-26
If we were to get any arena shows this year maybe a December 4 show run in Seattle would work that ends after a mini Canada tour that is 7 shows long. I am bias for the Canada shows to happen of course. Still money is on 2022 for all of the above.
What are the chances these shows go off as planned? Will it be ok to gather in large numbers by July?
Very doubtful id say as planned, if they go ahead id think they either get pushed back a couple of months or there are some restrictions if its the original date, reduced numbers, proof of vaccination etc
Yeah I can’t see these happening in any normal fashion of what used to be the norm.
The noise in the UK last few days has changed a little i think from everything will be normal to everything will be able to open but maybe with some restrictions at first, I can see some social distancing still in place a little longer than originally hoped. September also maybe suits the band better to tie in with the US shows
The crazy thing about this virus is even being vaccinated doesn’t protect you from getting infected it just curves the symptoms, my coworker who has been vaccinated ended up catching it after being vaccinated she had to quarantine for two weeks..
Keeping people from dying and from having severe enough symptoms that they need to be hospitalized is all the vaccine needs to do though imo. Once everyone gets vaccinated that wants it there should be no more quarantining or restrictions. There should be no scenario where my family and I get vaccinated to help the older and more vulnerable population not get sick from this virus and still have restrictions in place since there is a part of the population that does not believe in the science behind it.
Exactly this... There will always be people who catch the virus... The aim is not to eradicate it but to make sure hospital treatment and severe illness is reduced to a manageable level. The drop of daily cases has levelled off here in the UK due to schools opening but the number of deaths and hospitalisations is still falling. I wouldn't say I'm convinced BST will happen but there is a chance. And I am confident other areas of life will be more as we know it by the summer.
What are the chances these shows go off as planned? Will it be ok to gather in large numbers by July?
Very doubtful id say as planned, if they go ahead id think they either get pushed back a couple of months or there are some restrictions if its the original date, reduced numbers, proof of vaccination etc
Yeah I can’t see these happening in any normal fashion of what used to be the norm.
The noise in the UK last few days has changed a little i think from everything will be normal to everything will be able to open but maybe with some restrictions at first, I can see some social distancing still in place a little longer than originally hoped. September also maybe suits the band better to tie in with the US shows
The crazy thing about this virus is even being vaccinated doesn’t protect you from getting infected it just curves the symptoms, my coworker who has been vaccinated ended up catching it after being vaccinated she had to quarantine for two weeks..
Keeping people from dying and from having severe enough symptoms that they need to be hospitalized is all the vaccine needs to do though imo. Once everyone gets vaccinated that wants it there should be no more quarantining or restrictions. There should be no scenario where my family and I get vaccinated to help the older and more vulnerable population not get sick from this virus and still have restrictions in place since there is a part of the population that does not believe in the science behind it.
Yes all true it’s going to come down to individual choice I’m not sure what it’s going to look like after vaccine is readily available to everyone but if infection rates don’t go down that’s not good! The infection rates here have flattened but that’s not what needs to happen they need to keep going down ..
I get that for sure. High case counts still mean that some of the vaccinated people have a small chance of being severely sick or die too but I feel at some point our focus needs to shift away from case counts. Hospitalizations and deaths nose diving is what matters most and I hope the vaccine over the next couple of months does what it is supposed to do.
I think the plan is to push the arena shows to spring 2022 and try for the 4 festival shows in late Aug and Sep. I am not saying these shows are happening just that it makes the most amount of sense if they are clinging on to hope of something this year going on.
Pink Pop Aug 27-29 Hyde Park Sep 3,4 SHN Sep 18,19 Ohana Sep 24-26
If we were to get any arena shows this year maybe a December 4 show run in Seattle would work that ends after a mini Canada tour that is 7 shows long. I am bias for the Canada shows to happen of course. Still money is on 2022 for all of the above.
That’s my guess as well in terms of what the band is looking at. 4 festival style weekends over 5 weekends. My guess is that’s why they haven’t cancelled the Euro tour yet. Seeing if these shows are possible and working out the rescheduled 2022 dates for the remainder (plus I imagine a few different U.K. shows next year if BST does happen this year, much like the way they added Prague this year)
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
What are the chances these shows go off as planned? Will it be ok to gather in large numbers by July?
Very doubtful id say as planned, if they go ahead id think they either get pushed back a couple of months or there are some restrictions if its the original date, reduced numbers, proof of vaccination etc
Yeah I can’t see these happening in any normal fashion of what used to be the norm.
The noise in the UK last few days has changed a little i think from everything will be normal to everything will be able to open but maybe with some restrictions at first, I can see some social distancing still in place a little longer than originally hoped. September also maybe suits the band better to tie in with the US shows
The crazy thing about this virus is even being vaccinated doesn’t protect you from getting infected it just curves the symptoms, my coworker who has been vaccinated ended up catching it after being vaccinated she had to quarantine for two weeks..
Keeping people from dying and from having severe enough symptoms that they need to be hospitalized is all the vaccine needs to do though imo. Once everyone gets vaccinated that wants it there should be no more quarantining or restrictions. There should be no scenario where my family and I get vaccinated to help the older and more vulnerable population not get sick from this virus and still have restrictions in place since there is a part of the population that does not believe in the science behind it.
Yes all true it’s going to come down to individual choice I’m not sure what it’s going to look like after vaccine is readily available to everyone but if infection rates don’t go down that’s not good! The infection rates here have flattened but that’s not what needs to happen they need to keep going down ..
I get that for sure. High case counts still mean that some of the vaccinated people have a small chance of being severely sick or die too but I feel at some point our focus needs to shift away from case counts. Hospitalizations and deaths nose diving is what matters most and I hope the vaccine over the next couple of months does what it is supposed to do.
I think the plan is to push the arena shows to spring 2022 and try for the 4 festival shows in late Aug and Sep. I am not saying these shows are happening just that it makes the most amount of sense if they are clinging on to hope of something this year going on.
Pink Pop Aug 27-29 Hyde Park Sep 3,4 SHN Sep 18,19 Ohana Sep 24-26
If we were to get any arena shows this year maybe a December 4 show run in Seattle would work that ends after a mini Canada tour that is 7 shows long. I am bias for the Canada shows to happen of course. Still money is on 2022 for all of the above.
These dates make the most sense but it sounds like moving BST to September still remains plan b for the organisers. Not sure where that puts PJ's plans as it's a good few weeks before they would have another show.
Rock Werchter has something up their sleeve for end of August but is „focussing on European bands for this with PJ probably coming back in 2022“ according to a good source.
Pinkpop moving is a legal stunt to get government funds.
For what it's worth (which may not be much at all, but just throwing it out there), I got an email from Ticketmaster this morning announcing that tickets for Wireless (another major festival taking place in Hyde Park during the first week of July) will go on sale tomorrow.
We're just over 3 months away. Surely they wouldn't put them on sale tomorrow without a fair amount of confidence?
Leeds 2006, London 2007, Hartford 2008, London Shepherds Bush 2009, London O2 2009, Dublin 2010, London Hyde Park 2010, Amsterdam 1 2012, Amsterdam 2 2012, Berlin 1 2012, EV solo London 30/7/2012, Berlin 2014, Stockholm 2014, Milton Keynes 2014, Amsterdam 1 2018, London 1 2018, London 2 2018, EV solo Dublin 2019, London 1 2022, London 2 2022, New York City 2022
For what xit's worth (which may not be much at all, but just throwing it out there), I got an email from Ticketmaster this morning announcing that tickets for Wireless (another major festival taking place in Hyde Park during the first week of July) will go on sale tomorrow.
We're just over 3 months away. Surely they wouldn't put them on sale tomorrow without a fair amount of confidence?
That is a very positive development IMO.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
For what it's worth (which may not be much at all, but just throwing it out there), I got an email from Ticketmaster this morning announcing that tickets for Wireless (another major festival taking place in Hyde Park during the first week of July) will go on sale tomorrow.
We're just over 3 months away. Surely they wouldn't put them on sale tomorrow without a fair amount of confidence?
Interesting. I received the same email today - but I assumed that was because I had been on the Wireless page on Ticketmaster yesterday and so had received some automated marketing. Seems that's not the case though! Wireless has been teasing an announcement, which I assumed was going to be both the line-up and a change of date, but the email suggests that it will remain as 2-4 July. Lends credence to the rumours that BST is still committed to its original date for the time being as well, even if it has scoped out a move to September as a plan b.
BTW pedant alert - but Wireless takes place at Finsbury Park, I believe.
This whole thing in the UK with fest organizers going ahead with plans is going to be one damn big tease isn't it with the government stepping in in the next couple of months modifying what is allowed this summer and what is not.
What I would like to know is who are the organizers talking to officially and why do they think this summer is plausible? Is it just to get more money out of the government or is there someone high up giving them the green light to make these plans?
OK just to muddy the waters further, Ticketmaster have now just sent out an email saying that the Wireless mail was sent in error: "Sorry if you recently received an email about purchasing tickets for Wireless Festival at Finsbury Park. This event is not currently on sale. We will let you know when we have more information on Wireless Festival."
This whole thing in the UK with fest organizers going ahead with plans is going to be one damn big tease isn't it with the government stepping in in the next couple of months modifying what is allowed this summer and what is not.
What I would like to know is who are the organizers talking to officially and why do they think this summer is plausible? Is it just to get more money out of the government or is there someone high up giving them the green light to make these plans?
Well said.
"I like beautiful melodies telling me terrible things" - Tom Waits pearljamonline.it
BST really needs to start being transparent with plans. I just read a tweet from BBC noting that the PM is concerned about a third wave:
Boris Johnson has warned the effects of a third wave of coronavirus will "wash up on our shores" from Europe.
The PM said the UK should be "under no illusion" we will "feel effects" of growing cases on the continent.
His comments come amid a row over Covid vaccine supplies, after the president of the European Commission warning the EU could "forbid" doses made in the bloc from being exported to the UK.
EU leaders will hold a virtual meeting on Thursday to discuss their plans.
So, why continue on all honky dory with a music festival in the heart of London in early July? It'll be April soon, and this possible third wave may come very soon. I want to go to London to see PJ as much as the next person, maybe even more anxious, but the optics don't look good. Americans shouldn't have to risk their health to attend a concert in a different country during a pandemic and new variants.
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First PJ Show: March 20, 1994 | Ann Arbor | Crisler Arena
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Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
I think the plan is to push the arena shows to spring 2022 and try for the 4 festival shows in late Aug and Sep. I am not saying these shows are happening just that it makes the most amount of sense if they are clinging on to hope of something this year going on.
Pink Pop Aug 27-29
Hyde Park Sep 3,4
SHN Sep 18,19
Ohana Sep 24-26
If we were to get any arena shows this year maybe a December 4 show run in Seattle would work that ends after a mini Canada tour that is 7 shows long. I am bias for the Canada shows to happen of course. Still money is on 2022 for all of the above.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Pinkpop moving is a legal stunt to get government funds.
We're just over 3 months away. Surely they wouldn't put them on sale tomorrow without a fair amount of confidence?
Leeds 2006, London 2007, Hartford 2008, London Shepherds Bush 2009, London O2 2009, Dublin 2010, London Hyde Park 2010, Amsterdam 1 2012, Amsterdam 2 2012, Berlin 1 2012, EV solo London 30/7/2012, Berlin 2014, Stockholm 2014, Milton Keynes 2014, Amsterdam 1 2018, London 1 2018, London 2 2018, EV solo Dublin 2019, London 1 2022, London 2 2022, New York City 2022
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
BTW pedant alert - but Wireless takes place at Finsbury Park, I believe.
What I would like to know is who are the organizers talking to officially and why do they think this summer is plausible? Is it just to get more money out of the government or is there someone high up giving them the green light to make these plans?
Make of that what you will....
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Boris Johnson has warned the effects of a third wave of coronavirus will "wash up on our shores" from Europe.
The PM said the UK should be "under no illusion" we will "feel effects" of growing cases on the continent.
His comments come amid a row over Covid vaccine supplies, after the president of the European Commission warning the EU could "forbid" doses made in the bloc from being exported to the UK.
EU leaders will hold a virtual meeting on Thursday to discuss their plans.
So, why continue on all honky dory with a music festival in the heart of London in early July? It'll be April soon, and this possible third wave may come very soon. I want to go to London to see PJ as much as the next person, maybe even more anxious, but the optics don't look good. Americans shouldn't have to risk their health to attend a concert in a different country during a pandemic and new variants.
First PJ Show: March 20, 1994 | Ann Arbor | Crisler Arena