2020 Presidential Debates aka night 1 "The Cleveland Steamer"

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,121
    mrussel1 said:
    He told Trump he was racist,  a clown,  a liar and the cause of 200k deaths,  but you guys are criticizing him for going easy?
    i know. he did those things. but trump is very effective in how he comes across. he's just....louder. and that's effective. i think biden did a decent job, and i llaughed out loud when he called him a clown and then backed off of it, but my feeling was that biden came off as on the defense the entire time. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,024
    Does anyone think Trump earned some women and suburban voters tonight? Not at all.  He needed to change the trajectory and there's no way in the world that happened.  He was less presidential,  more immature and generally more unlikable than he's ever been.  
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,121
    static111 said:
    Stand back and stand by...holy fucking shit
    yeah, i noticed "stand by" and either that was a major mistake or a calculated comment
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,319
    mrussel1 said:
    He told Trump he was racist,  a clown,  a liar and the cause of 200k deaths,  but you guys are criticizing him for going easy?
    It’s embarrassing that the US has to witness such a spectacle and that our current POTUS is such an incompetent, compromised individual. Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat admitted to making sarcastic remarks about covid. And that that will not mean anything or make a difference to 60 million Americans. That and his lack of condemnation of white supremacy. What a shithole country we’ve become.
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,073
    I don’t think this debate made anyone look stronger, but if I had to pick I’d say it hurt Biden less.
    Which is why I think this will be the only debate. Biden won’t want to risk making any mistakes and will say what’s the point when you can’t speak.
  • wndowpayne
    wndowpayne Posts: 1,469
    It changed nothing....who mods next?
    Charlottesville 2013
    Hampton 2016

  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,513
    static111 said:
    Stand back and stand by...holy fucking shit
    Yeah, that was fucked up. What a piece of garbage.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,121
    mrussel1 said:
    Does anyone think Trump earned some women and suburban voters tonight? Not at all.  He needed to change the trajectory and there's no way in the world that happened.  He was less presidential,  more immature and generally more unlikable than he's ever been.  
    for sure he didn't gain voters. he just had his racist white fatties cheering for him in their trailer park. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,024
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Does anyone think Trump earned some women and suburban voters tonight? Not at all.  He needed to change the trajectory and there's no way in the world that happened.  He was less presidential,  more immature and generally more unlikable than he's ever been.  
    for sure he didn't gain voters. he just had his racist white fatties cheering for him in their trailer park. 
    So that's not an effective performance by Trump... he needed to change the path.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,238
    What the fuck did I just watch?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,319
    Post debate analysis, what is wrong with Rick Santorum? 
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  • mrussel1
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    mace1229 said:
    I don’t think this debate made anyone look stronger, but if I had to pick I’d say it hurt Biden less.
    Which is why I think this will be the only debate. Biden won’t want to risk making any mistakes and will say what’s the point when you can’t speak.
    I think they need to cut the mic or eliminate the debates for this cycle.  This was just a train wreck and utterly awful.  Trump wrecks everything he touches,  even debates. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,238
    Netflix is trying to figure out how to make this a series. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,121
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Does anyone think Trump earned some women and suburban voters tonight? Not at all.  He needed to change the trajectory and there's no way in the world that happened.  He was less presidential,  more immature and generally more unlikable than he's ever been.  
    for sure he didn't gain voters. he just had his racist white fatties cheering for him in their trailer park. 
    So that's not an effective performance by Trump... he needed to change the path.
    as everyone has been saying, we know millions are going to vote for trump. all we need is for people to vote and he'll be gone. i just don't know if biden energizes enough voters to the polls. 
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  • mfc2006
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    static111 said:
    Stand back and stand by...holy fucking shit
    Yup. He’s a vile fucked up human being.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,319
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I don’t think this debate made anyone look stronger, but if I had to pick I’d say it hurt Biden less.
    Which is why I think this will be the only debate. Biden won’t want to risk making any mistakes and will say what’s the point when you can’t speak.
    I think they need to cut the mic or eliminate the debates for this cycle.  This was just a train wreck and utterly awful.  Trump wrecks everything he touches,  even debates. 
    Age of covid, sound proof booths with mic cuts. Let them scream and gestulate in a shower stall.
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  • PJ1973
    PJ1973 Winston-Salem, NC Posts: 421
    What the fuck just happened?
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,238
    I feel bad for the fact checkers.  
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,319
    PJ1973 said:
    What the fuck just happened?
    The US collapsed.
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,513
    mcgruff10 said:
    What the fuck did I just watch?
    I feel dirty. I wanted to stop, but I had to see it through. It doesn't help that they billed it like a UFC bout. Trump vs. Biden Main Event with them faced off in still shots. Stupid.
    It's a hopeless situation...

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