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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908

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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,366
    edited September 2020
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    Hannity just said Trump steam rolled Biden, so I guess Trump won.

    Well, of course Hannity would say that.  But him saying that means Trump won?  I don't think so.
    Frankly, I think they both lost.
    I was being sarcastic. It was just funny, had the TV on in the background after the debate and even the commentators from Fox were at best saying it was a tie, most seem to say it favored Biden. Wasn’t listening too closely after it ended. Then Hannity’s show starts and he blurts out in the opening statements “Trump steam rolls Biden in the first debate....”
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  • cutzcutz Posts: 11,833
    mfc2006 said:
    static111 said:
    Stand back and stand by...holy fucking shit
    Yup. He’s a vile fucked up human being.
    Yes he is


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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,671
    The Juggler said:

    Nice.  
  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,144
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I don’t think this debate made anyone look stronger, but if I had to pick I’d say it hurt Biden less.
    Which is why I think this will be the only debate. Biden won’t want to risk making any mistakes and will say what’s the point when you can’t speak.
    I think they need to cut the mic or eliminate the debates for this cycle.  This was just a train wreck and utterly awful.  Trump wrecks everything he touches,  even debates. 
    Wallace seemed audibly and visibly frustrated, even mentioning what Trump's campaign had promised (i.e. two minutes without interruptions). I hate to say it, but my gut says the mics staying on is probably one of Trump's explicit requests, since he has nothing of substance to say, so all he can do is shout over someone else.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    The idea of Joe Rogan moderating a debate doesn’t seem so outrageous after tonight. At least he may say “Will you shut the fuck up and let him answer?”
    Yea, more Proud Boys shout outs, that’s what America needs. 
    I don’t think I’ve listened to as many Rogan podcasts as you have, but I’ve listened to a couple, and didn’t hear any pro-white supremacy talk. 
    I’ll bet you’ve listened to more but don’t wanna know his guest list nor understand his demographic. But that’s okay, MMA is what we need, right? A cage match when it comes to the most important position in the free(dumb) world. Yea, let’s do it with the thinking man’s stoner.
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    cutz said:
    https://youtu.be/fDeB29nnLX8
    I was watching ABC and George Stephanopoulos came on after and stated that was the worst debate he's ever seen.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,577
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,577
    ok. need a little aural palette cleanse....


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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,023
    mickeyrat said:
    ok. need a little aural palette cleanse....



    Ahh, that's such a good album!  Great way to "cleanse the aural palette" (I like that!).
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  • rollingsrollings Posts: 7,124
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Couldn’t help but think of this bit during the “debate” tonight 

    https://youtu.be/JhkZMxgPxXU
    This explains everything.  Thank you
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,577
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    ok. need a little aural palette cleanse....



    Ahh, that's such a good album!  Great way to "cleanse the aural palette" (I like that!).

    'spheres and aftk have been go to's the past 4 yrs.
    gives me back hope, optimism and some solid ideals to reach for. and they both fucking rock.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,023
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    ok. need a little aural palette cleanse....



    Ahh, that's such a good album!  Great way to "cleanse the aural palette" (I like that!).

    'spheres and aftk have been go to's the past 4 yrs.
    gives me back hope, optimism and some solid ideals to reach for. and they both fucking rock.

    I've dug Hemisphere since back when it came out (42 years ago?  Holy smokes!) but I don't have A Farewell to Kings.  I'll have to check it out!

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,577
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    ok. need a little aural palette cleanse....



    Ahh, that's such a good album!  Great way to "cleanse the aural palette" (I like that!).

    'spheres and aftk have been go to's the past 4 yrs.
    gives me back hope, optimism and some solid ideals to reach for. and they both fucking rock.

    I've dug Hemisphere since back when it came out (42 years ago?  Holy smokes!) but I don't have A Farewell to Kings.  I'll have to check it out!

    oh dude wtf ya been? if need be youtube it. but buy it without question.

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  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    mickeyrat said:
    ok. need a little aural palette cleanse....


    That's an excellent choice, you could also add AFTK then with a couple Dos Exis throw on real loud 
    Exit Stage Left.

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  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    I might have to check a replay of this debate debacle at least that's what I'm hearing from friends and some of you here. It could NOT have been that bad.

    Peace
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    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,023
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    ok. need a little aural palette cleanse....



    Ahh, that's such a good album!  Great way to "cleanse the aural palette" (I like that!).

    'spheres and aftk have been go to's the past 4 yrs.
    gives me back hope, optimism and some solid ideals to reach for. and they both fucking rock.

    I've dug Hemisphere since back when it came out (42 years ago?  Holy smokes!) but I don't have A Farewell to Kings.  I'll have to check it out!

    oh dude wtf ya been? if need be youtube it. but buy it without question.


    I'm slow but sure!  Will do! :smiley:
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,577
    edited September 2020
    g under p said:
    mickeyrat said:
    ok. need a little aural palette cleanse....


    That's an excellent choice, you could also add AFTK then with a couple Dos Exis throw on real loud 
    Exit Stage Left.

    Peace

    done on aftk.  no on dos xx(15yr 5m 12d)

    currently listening to exit
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,577
    g under p said:
    I might have to check a replay of this debate debacle at least that's what I'm hearing from friends and some of you here. It could NOT have been that bad.

    Peace

    edited title is accurate
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,520
    Lol. what the fuck is this. Why are they letting Trump interrupt every sentence... (as they obviously knew he would do)


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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,522
    Biden camp has stated they will show up to debate the Covidiot POS president! Biden needs to bring up the Covidiot kids at the next debate and keep bringing up the # of dead Americans from C19! At least Biden kept looking at the camera as if talking directly to me unlike the idiot who never did he just kept looking at Wallace who’s a terrible moderator..
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,522
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    Hannity just said Trump steam rolled Biden, so I guess Trump won.

    Well, of course Hannity would say that.  But him saying that means Trump won?  I don't think so.
    Frankly, I think they both lost.
    No Biden at least seems human unlike Covidiot who can’t answer one question with a straight forward answer and you know who lost? Us the American public for having to watch the president act like a complete dick! 

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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,727
    It was awful.  Trump provides zero substance or policy.  It's all a big scam.  You could tell he didnt prepare at all outside of his big "points" such as the stupid thing about Biden's son.  Trump's face was turning purple and more bloated as the thing went on.  I was concerned he was going to drop dead.

    Overall it's just embarassing.  It gave me anxiety to watch.  

    My biggest takeaway was the general promise not to accept the election, as well as the call to "stand by" to a right wing group who is heavily armed and violent, along with "poll watchers"
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,522
    He should be in jail for inciting violence period, that’s what he did last night and he will not hand over power peacefully people better be ready for violence in the streets! 
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,520
    edited September 2020
    cutz said:
    mfc2006 said:
    static111 said:
    Stand back and stand by...holy fucking shit
    Yup. He’s a vile fucked up human being.
    Yes he is


    https://youtu.be/ivSIgVdvEcM
    Sounds just like some people on this board. Nothing new. 

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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    rollings said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Couldn’t help but think of this bit during the “debate” tonight 

    https://youtu.be/JhkZMxgPxXU
    This explains everything.  Thank you
    It’s easily the best analogy of the Trump presidency. 
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    edited September 2020
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    The idea of Joe Rogan moderating a debate doesn’t seem so outrageous after tonight. At least he may say “Will you shut the fuck up and let him answer?”
    Yea, more Proud Boys shout outs, that’s what America needs. 
    I don’t think I’ve listened to as many Rogan podcasts as you have, but I’ve listened to a couple, and didn’t hear any pro-white supremacy talk. 
    I’ll bet you’ve listened to more but don’t wanna know his guest list nor understand his demographic. But that’s okay, MMA is what we need, right? A cage match when it comes to the most important position in the free(dumb) world. Yea, let’s do it with the thinking man’s stoner.
    I’ve listened to four: Josh Homme, James Hetfield, Bernie Sanders, and Bill Burr. 

    You take things too literally, man. Lighten up. The point of my first post is that Trump needs to shut up and quit interrupting. No, I don’t think the janitor from Newsradio who gives Alex Jones a platform should be moderating a presidential debate. 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,522
    B Woodward this morning “God help us”
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,671
    g under p said:
    I might have to check a replay of this debate debacle at least that's what I'm hearing from friends and some of you here. It could NOT have been that bad.

    Peace
    It's far worse than you could imagine. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,671
    josevolution said:
    Biden camp has stated they will show up to debate the Covidiot POS president! Biden needs to bring up the Covidiot kids at the next debate and keep bringing up the # of dead Americans from C19! At least Biden kept looking at the camera as if talking directly to me unlike the idiot who never did he just kept looking at Wallace who’s a terrible moderator..
    Next one is a town hall.  Biden isn't going to bail. 
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