2020 Presidential Debates aka night 1 "The Cleveland Steamer"

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  • The Juggler
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  • mace1229
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    edited September 2020
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    Hannity just said Trump steam rolled Biden, so I guess Trump won.

    Well, of course Hannity would say that.  But him saying that means Trump won?  I don't think so.
    Frankly, I think they both lost.
    I was being sarcastic. It was just funny, had the TV on in the background after the debate and even the commentators from Fox were at best saying it was a tie, most seem to say it favored Biden. Wasn’t listening too closely after it ended. Then Hannity’s show starts and he blurts out in the opening statements “Trump steam rolls Biden in the first debate....”
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  • cutz
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    mfc2006 said:
    static111 said:
    Stand back and stand by...holy fucking shit
    Yup. He’s a vile fucked up human being.
    Yes he is


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  • mrussel1
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    Nice.  
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,359
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I don’t think this debate made anyone look stronger, but if I had to pick I’d say it hurt Biden less.
    Which is why I think this will be the only debate. Biden won’t want to risk making any mistakes and will say what’s the point when you can’t speak.
    I think they need to cut the mic or eliminate the debates for this cycle.  This was just a train wreck and utterly awful.  Trump wrecks everything he touches,  even debates. 
    Wallace seemed audibly and visibly frustrated, even mentioning what Trump's campaign had promised (i.e. two minutes without interruptions). I hate to say it, but my gut says the mics staying on is probably one of Trump's explicit requests, since he has nothing of substance to say, so all he can do is shout over someone else.
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  • The idea of Joe Rogan moderating a debate doesn’t seem so outrageous after tonight. At least he may say “Will you shut the fuck up and let him answer?”
    Yea, more Proud Boys shout outs, that’s what America needs. 
    I don’t think I’ve listened to as many Rogan podcasts as you have, but I’ve listened to a couple, and didn’t hear any pro-white supremacy talk. 
    I’ll bet you’ve listened to more but don’t wanna know his guest list nor understand his demographic. But that’s okay, MMA is what we need, right? A cage match when it comes to the most important position in the free(dumb) world. Yea, let’s do it with the thinking man’s stoner.
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  • tbergs
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    cutz said:
    I was watching ABC and George Stephanopoulos came on after and stated that was the worst debate he's ever seen.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mickeyrat
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  • brianlux
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    mickeyrat said:

    Ahh, that's such a good album!  Great way to "cleanse the aural palette" (I like that!).
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  • rollings
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    Couldn’t help but think of this bit during the “debate” tonight 

    https://youtu.be/JhkZMxgPxXU
    This explains everything.  Thank you
  • mickeyrat
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    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Ahh, that's such a good album!  Great way to "cleanse the aural palette" (I like that!).

    'spheres and aftk have been go to's the past 4 yrs.
    gives me back hope, optimism and some solid ideals to reach for. and they both fucking rock.
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  • brianlux
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    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Ahh, that's such a good album!  Great way to "cleanse the aural palette" (I like that!).

    'spheres and aftk have been go to's the past 4 yrs.
    gives me back hope, optimism and some solid ideals to reach for. and they both fucking rock.

    I've dug Hemisphere since back when it came out (42 years ago?  Holy smokes!) but I don't have A Farewell to Kings.  I'll have to check it out!

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,337
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Ahh, that's such a good album!  Great way to "cleanse the aural palette" (I like that!).

    'spheres and aftk have been go to's the past 4 yrs.
    gives me back hope, optimism and some solid ideals to reach for. and they both fucking rock.

    I've dug Hemisphere since back when it came out (42 years ago?  Holy smokes!) but I don't have A Farewell to Kings.  I'll have to check it out!

    oh dude wtf ya been? if need be youtube it. but buy it without question.

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  • g under p
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    mickeyrat said:
    That's an excellent choice, you could also add AFTK then with a couple Dos Exis throw on real loud 
    Exit Stage Left.

    Peace
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    I might have to check a replay of this debate debacle at least that's what I'm hearing from friends and some of you here. It could NOT have been that bad.

    Peace
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    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • brianlux
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    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Ahh, that's such a good album!  Great way to "cleanse the aural palette" (I like that!).

    'spheres and aftk have been go to's the past 4 yrs.
    gives me back hope, optimism and some solid ideals to reach for. and they both fucking rock.

    I've dug Hemisphere since back when it came out (42 years ago?  Holy smokes!) but I don't have A Farewell to Kings.  I'll have to check it out!

    oh dude wtf ya been? if need be youtube it. but buy it without question.


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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,337
    edited September 2020
    g under p said:
    mickeyrat said:
    That's an excellent choice, you could also add AFTK then with a couple Dos Exis throw on real loud 
    Exit Stage Left.

    Peace

    done on aftk.  no on dos xx(15yr 5m 12d)

    currently listening to exit
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,337
    g under p said:
    I might have to check a replay of this debate debacle at least that's what I'm hearing from friends and some of you here. It could NOT have been that bad.

    Peace

    edited title is accurate
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    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Lol. what the fuck is this. Why are they letting Trump interrupt every sentence... (as they obviously knew he would do)


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"