2020 Presidential Debates aka night 1 "The Cleveland Steamer"

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  • Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat can’t publicly condemn white supremacists. BOO!
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,636
    edited September 2020
    How do you not call him out on his own staff and people at rallies getting covid..
    Exactly. Joe is missing every opportunity.
    he's obviously sticking to very rehearsed, specific talking points. he isn't able to debate on the fly. it's too bad. i could do better. 

    Biden  called trump out about covid at his rallies and trump said it’s outside so it’s fine. Biden went further and said trump only had people in the front tested because he cares about getting it himself but didn’t test everyone not in the front because he doesn’t care about them.
  • tbergs said:
    Hate trump. But Joe better wake the fuck up. 
    Hard to compete with a bully. They should have the mics cut in between answers. Trump is too distracting. Imagine trying to keep your focus on a serious answer with him constantly interrupting and side tracking.



    This is what the networks want or they would have always done this.  Interrupting others during the shows is nothing new....Trump is just a bigger ass than anyone so he makes it more annoying.

    I think Joe is too old and not on his game any longer ...but I don't know who could stand there and "debate" the fat bag of orange wind.

    It would be fun to see Kamala v. fatass

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  • Can’t believe someone didn’t advise Trump to say that Antifa’s website directs to Joe’s. And come on, just condemn white supremacists, Donald. Don’t worry, they’ll understand. 
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  • Most people debating would be concerned about facts and truths and silly things like that.  Trump "debates"/argues absent those concerns.
    That is a decided advantage!
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  • How do you not call him out on his own staff and people at rallies getting covid..
    Exactly. Joe is missing every opportunity.
    he's obviously sticking to very rehearsed, specific talking points. he isn't able to debate on the fly. it's too bad. i could do better. 

    Biden  called trump out about covid at his rallies and trump said it’s outside so it’s fine. Biden went further and said trump only had people in the front tested because he cares about getting it himself but didn’t test everyone not in the front because he doesn’t care about them.
    yes, but he's missed a LOT of opportunities. 
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    tbergs said:
    Hate trump. But Joe better wake the fuck up. 
    Hard to compete with a bully. They should have the mics cut in between answers. Trump is too distracting. Imagine trying to keep your focus on a serious answer with him constantly interrupting and side tracking.



    This is what the networks want or they would have always done this.  Interrupting others during the shows is nothing new....Trump is just a bigger ass than anyone so he makes it more annoying.

    I think Joe is too old and not on his game any longer ...but I don't know who could stand there and "debate" the fat bag of orange wind.

    It would be fun to see Kamala v. fatass

    Kamala would obliterate him. Biden's stutter/stammer makes it easier for Trump to interject and talk over him.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,671
    How do you not call him out on his own staff and people at rallies getting covid..
    Exactly. Joe is missing every opportunity.
    he's obviously sticking to very rehearsed, specific talking points. he isn't able to debate on the fly. it's too bad. i could do better. 

    Biden  called trump out about covid at his rallies and trump said it’s outside so it’s fine. Biden went further and said trump only had people in the front tested because he cares about getting it himself but didn’t test everyone not in the front because he doesn’t care about them.
    yes, but he's missed a LOT of opportunities. 
    You can't take every insult and respond.  He needs to speak America,  not argue with Trump.  I think he did well.  He chose his spots to dig back.  
  • tbergs said:
    tbergs said:
    Hate trump. But Joe better wake the fuck up. 
    Hard to compete with a bully. They should have the mics cut in between answers. Trump is too distracting. Imagine trying to keep your focus on a serious answer with him constantly interrupting and side tracking.



    This is what the networks want or they would have always done this.  Interrupting others during the shows is nothing new....Trump is just a bigger ass than anyone so he makes it more annoying.

    I think Joe is too old and not on his game any longer ...but I don't know who could stand there and "debate" the fat bag of orange wind.

    It would be fun to see Kamala v. fatass

    Kamala would obliterate him. Biden's stutter/stammer makes it easier for Trump to interject and talk over him.
    agreed. obviously trump's prep team has told him just talk over him and you'll win. 
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  • Have you ever heard of this billion tree project?
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,636
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    mrussel1 said:
    tbergs said:
    That's it Biden. Bring it back to the people.
    Yes,  excellent

    Granted it’s tough debating when you get interrupted constantly, but Biden should have been ready with one liners such as “we cut the unemployment 6% you cut it 1%. I’d say that makes us six times better on the economy.”

    and he should have been ready with some sort of “cheating on everything“ response when he got interrupted.

    not thrilled with bidens performance granted it’s a nearly impossible task
  • Biden should of walked over to Covidiot and punched him dead in his face after bringing up family! 
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  • wndowpaynewndowpayne Posts: 1,469
    How do you not call him out on his own staff and people at rallies getting covid..
    Exactly. Joe is missing every opportunity.
    he's obviously sticking to very rehearsed, specific talking points. he isn't able to debate on the fly. it's too bad. i could do better. 

    Biden  called trump out about covid at his rallies and trump said it’s outside so it’s fine. Biden went further and said trump only had people in the front tested because he cares about getting it himself but didn’t test everyone not in the front because he doesn’t care about them.
    yes, but he's missed a LOT of opportunities. 

    He could have pointed out his own daughters assistant caught covid..
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  • tbergs said:
    Hate trump. But Joe better wake the fuck up. 
    Hard to compete with a bully. They should have the mics cut in between answers. Trump is too distracting. Imagine trying to keep your focus on a serious answer with him constantly interrupting and side tracking.
    ,la would have destroyed Trump. 

    I know what your saying, but what did joe expect? He needs to attack for gods sake.

    he let Trump say his rallies have had no effect without mentioning Herman fucking Cain.
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  • Rake the forests. Forest cities. Good god.
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  • Fearing elimination of the white race yet?
    Didn’t really get that from this. 
    You didn’t hear the dog whistle?
    He’s pretty overt normally for me. 
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  • oh my god he's actually fucking talking about raking the forests again. this is insane. 
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  • I’m wondering if Biden should be directing most of his comments at Trump at not at the camera.  It was good to see him stare down Trump when talking about Beau.
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  • How do you not call him out on his own staff and people at rallies getting covid..
    Exactly. Joe is missing every opportunity.
    he's obviously sticking to very rehearsed, specific talking points. he isn't able to debate on the fly. it's too bad. i could do better. 

    Biden  called trump out about covid at his rallies and trump said it’s outside so it’s fine. Biden went further and said trump only had people in the front tested because he cares about getting it himself but didn’t test everyone not in the front because he doesn’t care about them.
    yes, but he's missed a LOT of opportunities. 
    A shit ton. A metric shit tonne.
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    Biden would be better off to ignore Wallace's questions and just have prepared take downs of trump every time he gets 2 minutes. No one watching this is getting anything out of it anyway.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,671
    tbergs said:
    Hate trump. But Joe better wake the fuck up. 
    Hard to compete with a bully. They should have the mics cut in between answers. Trump is too distracting. Imagine trying to keep your focus on a serious answer with him constantly interrupting and side tracking.
    ,la would have destroyed Trump. 

    I know what your saying, but what did joe expect? He needs to attack for gods sake.

    he let Trump say his rallies have had no effect without mentioning Herman fucking Cain.
    No one cares about Cain. That's preaching to the choir.  Inside baseball.  Not moving votes.  


  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    OnWis97 said:
    I’m  walking the dog...I feel good about my choice.
    Please save us and post a pic of said dog. 

    Why don’t they just cut the mics once past the allotted speaking time? They’ve both done it and it’s annoying as all get out. Same for speaking over each other.

    If I were doing it, I’d lob some rotten fruit at them and hightail it outta there. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,671
    I’m wondering if Biden should be directing most of his comments at Trump at not at the camera.  It was good to see him stare down Trump when talking about Beau.
    He's intentionally making his case to America,  not trying to fight Trump
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    hedonist said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I’m  walking the dog...I feel good about my choice.
    Please save us and post a pic of said dog. 

    Why don’t they just cut the mics once past the allotted speaking time? They’ve both done it and it’s annoying as all get out. Same for speaking over each other.

    If I were doing it, I’d lob some rotten fruit at them and hightail it outta there. 
    Speaking of dogs, shock collars on both would resolve the interruption issue. Then we'd know which one was wearing a diaper.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,671
    hedonist said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I’m  walking the dog...I feel good about my choice.
    Please save us and post a pic of said dog. 

    Why don’t they just cut the mics once past the allotted speaking time? They’ve both done it and it’s annoying as all get out. Same for speaking over each other.

    If I were doing it, I’d lob some rotten fruit at them and hightail it outta there. 
    That's a great idea for the next debate.  Doubt Trump campaign will agree,  but it would be fantastic. 
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    One thing's for sure, I don't think I can watch another one of these.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    Yikes, Biden used Global warming.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • tbergs said:
    One thing's for sure, I don't think I can watch another one of these.
    My vote is already decided.  I probably will skip the other two.  I was curious to see how Biden would stand up against Trump.
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  • Totally agree with a mic cut. One warning for interrupting and then the next time your mic gets cut.
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