2021 European Tour Announcement

JPPJ84

PJNB said:

FR181798 said:

BlueLedbetter said:

FR181798 said:

nando1979 said:

It's being reported here in the UK that social distancing measures will have to remain here until at least the autumn, and more than likely over the winter too. Its obvious the tour won't go ahead. We'll just have to hope some sort of normal returns next year for tours to begin

Id be surprised if all tour plans dont just get binned. Seems like we will be living with this and restrictions for years. 

Im not so sure, vaccines are here and therapeutics not far off, its too late for this summer but id be very hopeful for 2022

As heartbreaking as it is, certainly in the UK I dont think we will see large scale events as we new them again for years. This could drag on for ages, people wearing face masks, social distancing. Until the government gets to a point where it accepts there will be x unavoidable deaths due to covid.

Have you not been following how effective the vaccines have been minimizing seriously sick patients and death? The timeline has been slow for rolling out vaccines but to say we are years away from being normal I am just not sure were you are getting that from. If you want to spin it around and say we do not know about the variant or the length of time the vaccine works I get it but those will be things that will be taken into account and modified going forward. We will never have zero deaths with this thing and at some point we will have to slowly pull the bandaid off and once people have been vaccinated open things back up to normal imo. 

Personally I‘m with you. Listening to some politicians however it seems unacceptable for Covid to go around at all because it would mean it can mutate further. They don’t even acknowledge that other viruses like the flu mutate all the time and people need a different shot each year. Time will tell I guess but one day we’ll have to start living kinda normal again 

FR181798

PJNB said:

FR181798 said:

BlueLedbetter said:

FR181798 said:

nando1979 said:

It's being reported here in the UK that social distancing measures will have to remain here until at least the autumn, and more than likely over the winter too. Its obvious the tour won't go ahead. We'll just have to hope some sort of normal returns next year for tours to begin

Id be surprised if all tour plans dont just get binned. Seems like we will be living with this and restrictions for years. 

Im not so sure, vaccines are here and therapeutics not far off, its too late for this summer but id be very hopeful for 2022

As heartbreaking as it is, certainly in the UK I dont think we will see large scale events as we new them again for years. This could drag on for ages, people wearing face masks, social distancing. Until the government gets to a point where it accepts there will be x unavoidable deaths due to covid.

Have you not been following how effective the vaccines have been minimizing seriously sick patients and death? The timeline has been slow for rolling out vaccines but to say we are years away from being normal I am just not sure were you are getting that from. If you want to spin it around and say we do not know about the variant or the length of time the vaccine works I get it but those will be things that will be taken into account and modified going forward. We will never have zero deaths with this thing and at some point we will have to slowly pull the bandaid off and once people have been vaccinated open things back up to normal imo. 

I dont believe the timeline on vaccines has been slow here in the UK. I think they have done an amazing job with the vaccinations. Im just being realistic in that I fear this could go on for quite some time. Im not saying society wont open up again this year. But we are probably going to be living with some restrictions for quite a while which means restrictions on travel and large gatherings of people packed into arenas, so tours as we knew them might not be as they were for a while.

Brisk.

When will PJ announce if the tour will be going ahead or cancelled?

RatherStarved

I think we all know the status.  

Gravey1975

Brisk. said:

When will PJ announce if the tour will be going ahead or cancelled?

I think the cancellation announcement is complicated by the fact there are festival shows as part of the tour. I'm not sure they can announce they're scrapping the tour before the festival organisers are prepared to make their announcements. Could be chaotic otherwise. But at the same time, something like BST will leave making a decision until quite late as there is a remote chance that it could still happen due to the speed of vaccinations in the uk. So I think the announcement is some way off yet. 

Brisk.

Fuck festivals and play arenas instead

bootlegger10

It is odd that people can purchase tickets for shows that everyone involved know won’t happen.   But as long as they will issue refunds that doesn’t see too shady.

Muffin The Mule

Rumours in the UK that Boris will announce that there will be no foreign travel for the rest of this year...

InsideJob75

Brisk. said:

When will PJ announce if the tour will be going ahead or cancelled?

February 31st

InsideJob75

Muffin The Mule said:

Rumours in the UK that Boris will announce that there will be no foreign travel for the rest of this year...

Nicola Sturgeon did that yesterday in Scotland

RatherStarved

So...at this point should they cancel and refund, or postpone again? I have been on the side of postpone previously and I think that is still the best thing, imho.  

BlueLedbetter

RatherStarved said:

So...at this point should they cancel and refund, or postpone again? I have been on the side of postpone previously and I think that is still the best thing, imho.  

Offer both, refunds for those that want them or tickets valid for new dates for those that want that 

JPPJ84

BlueLedbetter said:

RatherStarved said:

So...at this point should they cancel and refund, or postpone again? I have been on the side of postpone previously and I think that is still the best thing, imho.  

Offer both, refunds for those that want them or tickets valid for new dates for those that want that 

Exactly! 

bootlegger10

Muffin The Mule said:

Rumours in the UK that Boris will announce that there will be no foreign travel for the rest of this year...

damnit.  

JPPJ84

bootlegger10 said:

Muffin The Mule said:

Rumours in the UK that Boris will announce that there will be no foreign travel for the rest of this year...

damnit.  

@Muffin The Mule where did you hear that? Can’t find anything and it doesn’t sound like something he could just decide right now 

joeembleton

InsideJob75 said:

Muffin The Mule said:

Rumours in the UK that Boris will announce that there will be no foreign travel for the rest of this year...

Nicola Sturgeon did that yesterday in Scotland

Where did you hear that? I must have missed it and there is nothing on BBC Scotland

matt84

Muffin The Mule said:

Rumours in the UK that Boris will announce that there will be no foreign travel for the rest of this year...

I doubt this will happen. Foreign travel I think will certainly happen from September or October.

nando1979

joeembleton said:

InsideJob75 said:

Muffin The Mule said:

Rumours in the UK that Boris will announce that there will be no foreign travel for the rest of this year...

Nicola Sturgeon did that yesterday in Scotland

Where did you hear that? I must have missed it and there is nothing on BBC Scotland

She announced people shouldn't be expecting to go on foreign holidays for the summer

Spunkie

Here in Canada, we imposed a 2000$ fee per travellor to cover quarantine upon return to dissuade foreign travel. (Unfortunately, this has the unintended consequence of widening the inequity gap, as this won't impede the wealthy.)

JackD.

https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/world-all-news/155690/summer-festivals-will-be-held-for-seated-crowd-of-maximum-5000-in-france/

Well. Lollapalooza Paris first one down.