2021 European Tour Announcement
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Gravey1975 said:The UK gov is set to announce that ALL legal limits on social contact will be removed from 21 June.
I can confidently say that BST will now definitely go ahead without any question whatsoever. 100%. Bet the house.
No earlier than June 21st. It's not bolted on at this stage but it sounds a bit more promising. The rest of the tour however, I'm not so sure. I've got tickets for Amsterdam and I'm in no rush to re book hotels and flights.
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The annoucement was 21st June - "at the earliest", i don't hold the same confidence that this will go ahead - not confirmed its definately 21st, just earliest and can't see them allowing crowds in at Hyde Park - hope i am wrong but there is a hell of a lot of planning that needs to go into holding something like this and a less definate statement that gigs will be good to go after 21st, i think they will pull the plug for this year and full steam ahead next year. - unless they can move to late August - early Sept0
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Target in Uk of all restrictions lifted by 21st June - question is now whether PJ proceed with Uk when other EU countries who don't have such a fast vax roll out.0
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I still don't see it happening. Or at least, certainly not with PJ headlining. It will be difficult for anyone with a ticket outside of the UK to attend, and I just don't see them doing that to their fans.0
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We can still dream though right?0
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While I still say Europe 2022 is 100% and nothing this year, I love the optimism from the UK and the push to safely reopen as soon as possible. In NA we are getting masks and distancing until 2022 as our message. Optimism is what we need right now almost 1 year into this mess.
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It says somewhere the final decision about a phase will be made one week before it is due to start. So if everything goes well with all prior phases (which is a huge if) then on 14 June it could be definitive that the last phase will start on 21 June. That means the organizers of BST will not have certainty in any scenario until less than 4 weeks before the fest. That sounds like 2022 to me.PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 20230 -
RatherStarved said:It says somewhere the final decision about a phase will be made one week before it is due to start. So if everything goes well with all prior phases (which is a huge if) then on 14 June it could be definitive that the last phase will start on 21 June. That means the organizers of BST will not have certainty in any scenario until less than 4 weeks before the fest. That sounds like 2022 to me.0
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Kearn5y said:Wakefieldrob said:Aerosmith just bumped their European tour (June/July) on by 12 months to 2022. I’d rather this than a cancel0
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PJNB said:RatherStarved said:It says somewhere the final decision about a phase will be made one week before it is due to start. So if everything goes well with all prior phases (which is a huge if) then on 14 June it could be definitive that the last phase will start on 21 June. That means the organizers of BST will not have certainty in any scenario until less than 4 weeks before the fest. That sounds like 2022 to me.PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 20230 -
Im guessing PJ won't come just to play hyde park if the rest of Europe is off0
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BlueLedbetter said:Im guessing PJ won't come just to play hyde park if the rest of Europe is off0
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PJNB said:BlueLedbetter said:Im guessing PJ won't come just to play hyde park if the rest of Europe is offPost edited by BlueLedbetter on0
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None of the shows will happen in 2021 - regardless of UK and Hyde Park.
Where does it say life back to normal from 21 June? Does anyone seriously think the first gigs back will be outdoor 60,000+ capacity concerts with international travelling fans!!
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In regards to Hyde Park. Optimistically I see them having a limited capacity crowd, masks, and UK citizens only attend. I also see them allowing international bands to drop out. I think something is better than nothing.Ohana and Sea Hear Now I think are a go, just super limited capacity. I think those are the only 2 shows PJ will agree to do with limited capacity because they’re shows in the states.I see the first PJ show “as we know it” in April 2022 once the weather warms up a bit and we’re through the flu season 2021.
I will be trying to attend every single show once they announce it. Not sure how much longer we have, they’re out of their prime, Eddie can’t do certain songs anymore (lord knows he tries though), and by the time we see them they will be much older as will we.Post edited by HailHailVitalogy on2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore, Ohana 2 | 2025: Florida x2, Atlanta x2, Pittsburgh x20 -
That said, I really think they should shoot for a New Zealand and Australia tour in Dec/Jan to shake the rust off2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore, Ohana 2 | 2025: Florida x2, Atlanta x2, Pittsburgh x20
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InsideJob75 said:None of the shows will happen in 2021 - regardless of UK and Hyde Park.
Where does it say life back to normal from 21 June? Does anyone seriously think the first gigs back will be outdoor 60,000+ capacity concerts with international travelling fans!!Post edited by Gravey1975 on0 -
HailHailVitalogy said:Ohana and Sea Hear Now I think are a go, just super limited capacity. I think those are the only 2 shows PJ will agree to do with limited capacity because they’re shows in the states.PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 20230 -
RatherStarved said:HailHailVitalogy said:Ohana and Sea Hear Now I think are a go, just super limited capacity. I think those are the only 2 shows PJ will agree to do with limited capacity because they’re shows in the states.There’s a lot of ways around it. There will be people asking for refunds because they don’t feel safe. Can also offer free VIP tickets for 2022 if they swap 2021 for 2022. Just two ideas off the top of my head. In terms of finances, it’s a loss one way or another.2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore, Ohana 2 | 2025: Florida x2, Atlanta x2, Pittsburgh x20
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HailHailVitalogy said:RatherStarved said:HailHailVitalogy said:Ohana and Sea Hear Now I think are a go, just super limited capacity. I think those are the only 2 shows PJ will agree to do with limited capacity because they’re shows in the states.There’s a lot of ways around it. There will be people asking for refunds because they don’t feel safe. Can also offer free VIP tickets for 2022 if they swap 2021 for 2022. Just two ideas off the top of my head. In terms of finances, it’s a loss one way or another.
This is a multi-million dollar event with contracts that have long ago been signed. Your "lots of ways" don't take into account at all the economic reality. Maybe they will find a way to hold the fall festivals, we can hope, but I would personally not bet my house on it.
Concerts are completely different than sports, which can happen with very small crowds or no crowds because of the TV money. The games are going to happen anyway so it can be decided at the last minute to allow fans in. To hold a concert in September, they will have to make the decision several months before when they likely won't have the data to give the go ahead. That's why it is likely most large shows won't resume until 2022. There will no doubt start to be smaller venue shows earlier.
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