2021 European Tour Announcement

nando1979

The government want to get as many people the first vaccine as possible, if it was a supply issue the vaccine wouldn't be rolling out in the numbers which it is.

The whole way through the pandemic, this government have told the people what they wanted to here, rather than giving them the hard truth. It's been "we won't need a lockdown", "the lockdown will only be for 4 weeks", "we'll be covid free by summer", "we'll be covid free by autumn", "we'll be covid free by Christmas", "we'll let you mix for 5 days at Christmas", "we'll be in a better place by the spring", "we' ll be in a better place by summer". There's a clear pattern of over promising and under delivering when the practice should be the opposite. Unfortunately this is what happens when you have a populist government in place. During tough times you want someone who is pessimistic, who sees the dangers and plans for them, not someone who goes on about sunny uplands and using the British spirit to get through everything.

Rant over 😂 sorry about that folks

FR181798

Have to say that the government here in the UK are soft as f@#%. As soon as it was obvious from seeing what was happening elsewhere they should have stopped passenger flights etc. Far too slow to react. Probably didnt want to offend anyone by saying you cant enter the UK. This wouldnt have stopped it in the UK but would have slowed things considerably. Dont even understand why the government let people away abroad on holiday in the Summer.

So what happens when the new variant from the UK appears at Christmas/ New Year. Every country around the world cuts us off.

nando1979

They sold their "brexit" on the basis that being in the EU meant they couldn't take such decisions as closing borders. What did countries within the EU do when the pandemic started?  Closed their borders. They're charlatans, and not the band, had they been in power we'd be in a much better place 😂

PJNB

Looks like the 2021 Summer Olympics are rumored to be cancelled. Sad for all of the athletes that are at their peak right now and all of those involved. Just another note proving Euro will not happen. 

The Rock

So, Glastonbury is not happening and the Olympics look to be cancelled too. This tour isn't happening

AV94870

The director of the Pinkpop festival in The Netherlands stated that it's becoming more and more realistic that the festival will not go ahead this year.

cutz

PJNB said:

Looks like the 2021 Summer Olympics are rumored to be cancelled. Sad for all of the athletes that are at their peak right now and all of those involved. Just another note proving Euro will not happen. 

I know this probably has nothing to do with Europe but, we shall see. 

Full story:  https://www.reuters.com/article/us-olympics-2020-ioc-idUSKBN29S00F?taid=600ba5255a2f620001930acb&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

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JANUARY 22, 20217:30 PMUPDATED A DAY AGO

Everybody determined' to get Tokyo Games going - Bach

By Reuters Staff

 Britain’s Times reported on Friday that Tokyo was looking to get out of hosting the Games, drawing sharp criticism and flat denials. The Japanese government dismissed the report, while Japan Olympic Committee head Yasuhiro Yamashita told Reuters it was a “fabrication” and “wrong”.

Bach did not directly address the Times report, nor mention by name the COVID-19 pandemic that forced the postponement of the Games from last year, but said he was confident that they would go ahead from July 23 to Aug. 8.

“Six months ahead of the Games, the entire Olympic movement is looking forward to the opening ceremony on July 23,” Bach said.

“I had the opportunity today to speak with all the 206 National Olympic Committees of the world and they are all fully committed and looking forward to the Games. We are enjoying the full support of the Japanese government.

“They will enter the Olympic stadium on the 23rd of July with full pride and sending an important message ... to the entire world -- a message of resilience, of Olympic passion, of Olympic values like solidarity and peace.”

Gravey1975

The Games may well go ahead, but the stadiums are unlikely to have any/many fans inside. Same for the Euros - UEFA cant afford to can the whole thing (or push it back another year as 2022 is World Cup year) so it'll happen, just without fans. 

Gravey1975

Take this with a pinch of salt (though in the past the Telegraph sources have been pretty reliable as it's a Tory rag), but this piece suggests that the plans are for a full reopening of the UK economy under "normal" rules by the first week of July after all the over-50s have had their second vaccination. 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/01/24/britain-faces-three-month-halfway-house-lockdown-easter-over/

Unfortunately it's unlikely to save the PJ Euro tour, but it might give us hope for live music in general in the UK in the second half of the year at least. 

BlueLedbetter

Gravey1975 said:

Take this with a pinch of salt (though in the past the Telegraph sources have been pretty reliable as it's a Tory rag), but this piece suggests that the plans are for a full reopening of the UK economy under "normal" rules by the first week of July after all the over-50s have had their second vaccination. 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/01/24/britain-faces-three-month-halfway-house-lockdown-easter-over/

Unfortunately it's unlikely to save the PJ Euro tour, but it might give us hope for live music in general in the UK in the second half of the year at least. 

Can you cut and paste? Its behind a pay wall

PJNB

BlueLedbetter said:

Gravey1975 said:

Take this with a pinch of salt (though in the past the Telegraph sources have been pretty reliable as it's a Tory rag), but this piece suggests that the plans are for a full reopening of the UK economy under "normal" rules by the first week of July after all the over-50s have had their second vaccination. 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/01/24/britain-faces-three-month-halfway-house-lockdown-easter-over/

Unfortunately it's unlikely to save the PJ Euro tour, but it might give us hope for live music in general in the UK in the second half of the year at least. 

Can you cut and paste? Its behind a pay wall

I just hit refresh and stopped it before it fully loaded and it worked. 



Britain faces a three-month lockdown "halfway house" after Easter, with a full reopening delayed until all over-50s have had their second dose of the vaccine, The Telegraph understands.

Ministers are considering proposals to begin reopening swathes of the economy in April under similar restrictions to those in place over the summer, with "rule of six" and social distancing measures in force in pubs and restaurants.

A return to full normality will be delayed for at least 12 to 14 weeks to allow all over-50s to have their second dose of the vaccine, according to a source familiar with the discussions.

Ministers are keen to reopen hospitality venues in some capacity before the G7 summit in the second week of June, when the UK will host world leaders at Carbis Bay, Cornwall. National measures will be eased in advance of the summit, allowing pubs, restaurants and tourism to begin to trade again.

Boris Johnson has previously suggested England will return to the geographical tiers system after the lockdown ends, but sources suggested the tiers may apply to the whole country rather than to specific areas.

"The appetite for regional tiers will only come if you have large swathes of the country that are significantly lower in case numbers and new variant case numbers and hospitalisations," a source said.

Officials are understood to be planning the reopening of schools first, followed by an increase in personal freedoms, allowing meetings of friends and family outdoors before hospitality opens with social distancing in place.

Hospitality bosses cautiously welcomed the prospect of reopening under "halfway house" restrictions from April.

Kate Nicholls, the chief executive of UK Hospitality, said: "We understand that restrictions might need to be in place for quite a period of time after we reopen.

"In that case, given that would have a significant impact on business viability and jobs within the sector, we would want to work with the Government to support us through that reopening and recovery period as we transition out of restrictions. Key to that would be extending the business rates holiday and the VAT cut."

The plans could see a full reopening of the economy under "normal" rules by the first week of July after the over-50s have had a second dose of the vaccine.

Downing Street distanced itself from the proposals on Sunday night, with a Number 10 spokesman saying: "It's not a timetable under discussion".

News of the strategy came as Matt Hancock warned that it would be a "long, long, long" time before case numbers are low enough for the lockdown to be fully relaxed.

Speaking on Sky’s Sophy Ridge on Sunday programme, the Health Secretary said there was "early evidence that the lockdown is starting to bring cases down", but warned that any further new virus variants could throw out the timetable for the easing of restrictions.

"The new variant I really worry about is the one that is out there that hasn't been spotted," he said.

Sunday's statistics showed 30,004 new coronavirus infections in the UK. The seven-day rolling total fell by 22 per cent compared to last week.

Mr Hancock's refusal to commit publicly to a strategy for easing lockdown added to the frustration of Tory backbenchers who are calling for measures to be loosened as the vaccination programme protects those most vulnerable to Covid.

Steve Baker, deputy chair of the Coronavirus Recovery Group, said the lockdown was causing "untold damage to people's health, livelihoods and prospects".

"It's not enough to expect public compliance with prolonged severe measures without giving some hope and showing some optimism and light at the end of this very dark tunnel," he said.

Another MP bemoaned the pessimistic tone of Mr Johnson during Friday's press conference, where he announced that the Kent strain could be more deadly than the original form of Covid. "Where was Mr Optimism on Friday?" the MP asked. "He looked gutted. It was like a hostage situation."

On Sunday Mr Hancock said scientists were still unsure exactly how much more deadly the Kent variant is. 

Sir Patrick Vallance has indicated that it may kill 30 per cent more people but stressed that the data currently available is patchy at best.

BlueLedbetter

PJNB said:

BlueLedbetter said:

Gravey1975 said:

Take this with a pinch of salt (though in the past the Telegraph sources have been pretty reliable as it's a Tory rag), but this piece suggests that the plans are for a full reopening of the UK economy under "normal" rules by the first week of July after all the over-50s have had their second vaccination. 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/01/24/britain-faces-three-month-halfway-house-lockdown-easter-over/

Unfortunately it's unlikely to save the PJ Euro tour, but it might give us hope for live music in general in the UK in the second half of the year at least. 

Can you cut and paste? Its behind a pay wall

I just hit refresh and stopped it before it fully loaded and it worked. 



Britain faces a three-month lockdown "halfway house" after Easter, with a full reopening delayed until all over-50s have had their second dose of the vaccine, The Telegraph understands.

Ministers are considering proposals to begin reopening swathes of the economy in April under similar restrictions to those in place over the summer, with "rule of six" and social distancing measures in force in pubs and restaurants.

A return to full normality will be delayed for at least 12 to 14 weeks to allow all over-50s to have their second dose of the vaccine, according to a source familiar with the discussions.

Ministers are keen to reopen hospitality venues in some capacity before the G7 summit in the second week of June, when the UK will host world leaders at Carbis Bay, Cornwall. National measures will be eased in advance of the summit, allowing pubs, restaurants and tourism to begin to trade again.

Boris Johnson has previously suggested England will return to the geographical tiers system after the lockdown ends, but sources suggested the tiers may apply to the whole country rather than to specific areas.

"The appetite for regional tiers will only come if you have large swathes of the country that are significantly lower in case numbers and new variant case numbers and hospitalisations," a source said.

Officials are understood to be planning the reopening of schools first, followed by an increase in personal freedoms, allowing meetings of friends and family outdoors before hospitality opens with social distancing in place.

Hospitality bosses cautiously welcomed the prospect of reopening under "halfway house" restrictions from April.

Kate Nicholls, the chief executive of UK Hospitality, said: "We understand that restrictions might need to be in place for quite a period of time after we reopen.

"In that case, given that would have a significant impact on business viability and jobs within the sector, we would want to work with the Government to support us through that reopening and recovery period as we transition out of restrictions. Key to that would be extending the business rates holiday and the VAT cut."

The plans could see a full reopening of the economy under "normal" rules by the first week of July after the over-50s have had a second dose of the vaccine.

Downing Street distanced itself from the proposals on Sunday night, with a Number 10 spokesman saying: "It's not a timetable under discussion".

News of the strategy came as Matt Hancock warned that it would be a "long, long, long" time before case numbers are low enough for the lockdown to be fully relaxed.

Speaking on Sky’s Sophy Ridge on Sunday programme, the Health Secretary said there was "early evidence that the lockdown is starting to bring cases down", but warned that any further new virus variants could throw out the timetable for the easing of restrictions.

"The new variant I really worry about is the one that is out there that hasn't been spotted," he said.

Sunday's statistics showed 30,004 new coronavirus infections in the UK. The seven-day rolling total fell by 22 per cent compared to last week.

Mr Hancock's refusal to commit publicly to a strategy for easing lockdown added to the frustration of Tory backbenchers who are calling for measures to be loosened as the vaccination programme protects those most vulnerable to Covid.

Steve Baker, deputy chair of the Coronavirus Recovery Group, said the lockdown was causing "untold damage to people's health, livelihoods and prospects".

"It's not enough to expect public compliance with prolonged severe measures without giving some hope and showing some optimism and light at the end of this very dark tunnel," he said.

Another MP bemoaned the pessimistic tone of Mr Johnson during Friday's press conference, where he announced that the Kent strain could be more deadly than the original form of Covid. "Where was Mr Optimism on Friday?" the MP asked. "He looked gutted. It was like a hostage situation."

On Sunday Mr Hancock said scientists were still unsure exactly how much more deadly the Kent variant is. 

Sir Patrick Vallance has indicated that it may kill 30 per cent more people but stressed that the data currently available is patchy at best.

Thanks 

Apone

PJNB said:

BlueLedbetter said:

Gravey1975 said:

Take this with a pinch of salt (though in the past the Telegraph sources have been pretty reliable as it's a Tory rag), but this piece suggests that the plans are for a full reopening of the UK economy under "normal" rules by the first week of July after all the over-50s have had their second vaccination. 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/01/24/britain-faces-three-month-halfway-house-lockdown-easter-over/

Unfortunately it's unlikely to save the PJ Euro tour, but it might give us hope for live music in general in the UK in the second half of the year at least. 

Can you cut and paste? Its behind a pay wall

I just hit refresh and stopped it before it fully loaded and it worked. 



Britain faces a three-month lockdown "halfway house" after Easter, with a full reopening delayed until all over-50s have had their second dose of the vaccine, The Telegraph understands.

Ministers are considering proposals to begin reopening swathes of the economy in April under similar restrictions to those in place over the summer, with "rule of six" and social distancing measures in force in pubs and restaurants.

A return to full normality will be delayed for at least 12 to 14 weeks to allow all over-50s to have their second dose of the vaccine, according to a source familiar with the discussions.

Ministers are keen to reopen hospitality venues in some capacity before the G7 summit in the second week of June, when the UK will host world leaders at Carbis Bay, Cornwall. National measures will be eased in advance of the summit, allowing pubs, restaurants and tourism to begin to trade again.

Boris Johnson has previously suggested England will return to the geographical tiers system after the lockdown ends, but sources suggested the tiers may apply to the whole country rather than to specific areas.

"The appetite for regional tiers will only come if you have large swathes of the country that are significantly lower in case numbers and new variant case numbers and hospitalisations," a source said.

Officials are understood to be planning the reopening of schools first, followed by an increase in personal freedoms, allowing meetings of friends and family outdoors before hospitality opens with social distancing in place.

Hospitality bosses cautiously welcomed the prospect of reopening under "halfway house" restrictions from April.

Kate Nicholls, the chief executive of UK Hospitality, said: "We understand that restrictions might need to be in place for quite a period of time after we reopen.

"In that case, given that would have a significant impact on business viability and jobs within the sector, we would want to work with the Government to support us through that reopening and recovery period as we transition out of restrictions. Key to that would be extending the business rates holiday and the VAT cut."

The plans could see a full reopening of the economy under "normal" rules by the first week of July after the over-50s have had a second dose of the vaccine.

Downing Street distanced itself from the proposals on Sunday night, with a Number 10 spokesman saying: "It's not a timetable under discussion".

News of the strategy came as Matt Hancock warned that it would be a "long, long, long" time before case numbers are low enough for the lockdown to be fully relaxed.

Speaking on Sky’s Sophy Ridge on Sunday programme, the Health Secretary said there was "early evidence that the lockdown is starting to bring cases down", but warned that any further new virus variants could throw out the timetable for the easing of restrictions.

"The new variant I really worry about is the one that is out there that hasn't been spotted," he said.

Sunday's statistics showed 30,004 new coronavirus infections in the UK. The seven-day rolling total fell by 22 per cent compared to last week.

Mr Hancock's refusal to commit publicly to a strategy for easing lockdown added to the frustration of Tory backbenchers who are calling for measures to be loosened as the vaccination programme protects those most vulnerable to Covid.

Steve Baker, deputy chair of the Coronavirus Recovery Group, said the lockdown was causing "untold damage to people's health, livelihoods and prospects".

"It's not enough to expect public compliance with prolonged severe measures without giving some hope and showing some optimism and light at the end of this very dark tunnel," he said.

Another MP bemoaned the pessimistic tone of Mr Johnson during Friday's press conference, where he announced that the Kent strain could be more deadly than the original form of Covid. "Where was Mr Optimism on Friday?" the MP asked. "He looked gutted. It was like a hostage situation."

On Sunday Mr Hancock said scientists were still unsure exactly how much more deadly the Kent variant is. 

Sir Patrick Vallance has indicated that it may kill 30 per cent more people but stressed that the data currently available is patchy at best.

Whilst not great for the planned European tour, seems promising that politicians are finally accepting the need to get back to "full normality" by July.

Riverrunner

I'm sad.  I just requested refunds for the two Germany shows.  Even if they happen, and even if it was safe to go we couldn't go to both because they are 3 weeks or so apart now.   But I don't foresee being able to go to Germany (from the U.S.) in June anyway.  Nor have I made any travel plans - no airline tickets, no hotels, etc.   I am holding on to my Nashville and St. Louis tickets, although I am not even sure if they are refunding.

GlowGirl

Riverrunner said:

I'm sad.  I just requested refunds for the two Germany shows.  Even if they happen, and even if it was safe to go we couldn't go to both because they are 3 weeks or so apart now.   But I don't foresee being able to go to Germany (from the U.S.) in June anyway.  Nor have I made any travel plans - no airline tickets, no hotels, etc.   I am holding on to my Nashville and St. Louis tickets, although I am not even sure if they are refunding.

I get it. I am holding on to my Prague tickets for now. They are for end of July. But I am on hold as far as making any airline reservations, hotels, etc. Once I do that I will be too excited to go, and will be massively disappointed if I can't. However, I am being realistic that this tour will not happen this summer. I am going to hold my tickets until there is an official announcement, but will hold off making any other plans to go.

drfox

It’s all now a bit crazy that the tour hasn’t been postponed. I mean you can’t even enter many of the countries with most of us on lockdown. No way this will be sorted in 4.5 months.

nando1979

drfox said:

It’s all now a bit crazy that the tour hasn’t been postponed. I mean you can’t even enter many of the countries with most of us on lockdown. No way this will be sorted in 4.5 months.

The writing has been on the wall for a very long time. I'd guess the hold up is the festivals. If it was a straight up arena tour the band would have pulled the plug, with festivals being involved they probably have to wait for the organisers of those to do it. 

Father Hubbard

Is there anything noteworthy in this "15 days to save festivals" (at least according to the tweet translation) 

https://twitter.com/lollapaloozafr/status/1355425559535362049?s=19

RatherStarved

Father Hubbard said:

Is there anything noteworthy in this "15 days to save festivals" (at least according to the tweet translation) 

https://twitter.com/lollapaloozafr/status/1355425559535362049?s=19

My French is only average so I could be missing some key points and others feel free to jump in but this basically says there’s going to be a meeting with a French government official on Feb. 15 to discuss what conditions need to exist in order for festivals to move forward, as the promoters can’t take financial risk with no objective criteria.  As well they are trying to arrange a test concert with 1000 non-distanced but masked fans to see whether such a thing can be done safely, realizing that testing with distance isn't realistic to how a real concert would occur.  

aurelgugus

RatherStarved said:

Father Hubbard said:

Is there anything noteworthy in this "15 days to save festivals" (at least according to the tweet translation) 

https://twitter.com/lollapaloozafr/status/1355425559535362049?s=19

My French is only average so I could be missing some key points and others feel free to jump in but this basically says there’s going to be a meeting with a French government official on Feb. 15 to discuss what conditions need to exist in order for festivals to move forward, as the promoters can’t take financial risk with no objective criteria.  As well they are trying to arrange a test concert with 1000 non-distanced but masked fans to see whether such a thing can be done safely, realizing that testing with distance isn't realistic to how a real concert would occur.  

You are right !
In Luxembourg they have already started to organise test live shows. 100 attendance, fast result Covid test at the entry and the obligation to perform a PCR covid test 7 days after the show. The idea is to see if it works or not on a health side but it obviously cannot work on a financial side.
Obvisously we are very far from pre-COVID events. My guess : 1/3 or 1/2 shows in Fall, seats only.