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Sea. Hear. Now Festival 2020 Update

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  • BagCzechBagCzech Posts: 405
    FW46778 said:
    NJ outdoor limits have been eliminated. May be go for launch.
    As much as I wish what you said was true, unfortunately it isn't. What NJ announced today (5/3) was no more COVID capacity limits for outdoor gatherings. 6 feet social distancing is still required, and concerts and other large events are not considered "outdoor gatherings". Those still have limitations. Outdoor performances are limited to no more than 200 people. For large venues with fixed seating of 1,000 or more, capacity limit increases to 50% on May 7. 


  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commetsPosts: 23,804
    BagCzech said:
    FW46778 said:
    NJ outdoor limits have been eliminated. May be go for launch.
    As much as I wish what you said was true, unfortunately it isn't. What NJ announced today (5/3) was no more COVID capacity limits for outdoor gatherings. 6 feet social distancing is still required, and concerts and other large events are not considered "outdoor gatherings". Those still have limitations. Outdoor performances are limited to no more than 200 people. For large venues with fixed seating of 1,000 or more, capacity limit increases to 50% on May 7. 


    When my wife came into my office to relay what the Governor shared today that was our discussion point -- how do they pretend to even think about enforcing the distancing at a GA type of concert?  They are going to either ignore that rule, or it will change prior to concerts happening to remove that part.  (Or, the concerts will not happen.) 
    That is just dumb to think they would be able to enforce.   
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • Luckytwn1Luckytwn1 Posts: 333
    BagCzech said:
    FW46778 said:
    NJ outdoor limits have been eliminated. May be go for launch.
    As much as I wish what you said was true, unfortunately it isn't. What NJ announced today (5/3) was no more COVID capacity limits for outdoor gatherings. 6 feet social distancing is still required, and concerts and other large events are not considered "outdoor gatherings". Those still have limitations. Outdoor performances are limited to no more than 200 people. For large venues with fixed seating of 1,000 or more, capacity limit increases to 50% on May 7. 


    When my wife came into my office to relay what the Governor shared today that was our discussion point -- how do they pretend to even think about enforcing the distancing at a GA type of concert?  They are going to either ignore that rule, or it will change prior to concerts happening to remove that part.  (Or, the concerts will not happen.) 
    That is just dumb to think they would be able to enforce.   
    It’s quite simple. Concerts will not be cleared in the state of NJ for large GA crowds until the restrictions are lifted. Until then, the show must be staged with a plan that meets the requirements and many such shows are happening this summer.
  • on2legson2legs The Jersey ShorePosts: 10,884
    BagCzech said:
    FW46778 said:
    NJ outdoor limits have been eliminated. May be go for launch.
    As much as I wish what you said was true, unfortunately it isn't. What NJ announced today (5/3) was no more COVID capacity limits for outdoor gatherings. 6 feet social distancing is still required, and concerts and other large events are not considered "outdoor gatherings". Those still have limitations. Outdoor performances are limited to no more than 200 people. For large venues with fixed seating of 1,000 or more, capacity limit increases to 50% on May 7. 


    When my wife came into my office to relay what the Governor shared today that was our discussion point -- how do they pretend to even think about enforcing the distancing at a GA type of concert?  They are going to either ignore that rule, or it will change prior to concerts happening to remove that part.  (Or, the concerts will not happen.) 
    That is just dumb to think they would be able to enforce.   
    You can’t enforce it at concert.  But if the numbers continue to drop, the governor will eliminate the social distancing requirement.  That’s the direction we’re headed.  Remains to be seen where the numbers go but as of today it’s promising. 
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2
    2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2
    2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1
    2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park 
    2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)
    2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: MSG | Asbury Park

  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 10,752
    Get_Right said:
    FW46778 said:
    NJ outdoor limits have been eliminated. May be go for launch.
    Definitely looking like SHN will be a go in 4 and a half months

    The real question is will Pearl Jam think it is safe for them and their fans to attend. 

    Or if the numbers change. 

    Very promising to see all of these changes, and there will be plenty of time before September to cancel if things go south.  I was out in Philly today at a large store and then in a few spots in South Jersey, taking pictures, doing some research for work. 
    People still masked and distanced.  This is a good thing, imo, and gives me hope.   
    Yeah, I am optimistic but also know that this band does not take many chances when it comes to safety.
  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NYPosts: 1,779
    Cuomo reopening offices to 100% in two weeks.

    If I have to sit next to my coworkers 40 hrs a week I want to see a damn live show.
    DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18
  • RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 1,266
    Cuomo reopening offices to 100% in two weeks.

    If I have to sit next to my coworkers 40 hrs a week I want to see a damn live show.
    Well said.
  • Weston1283Weston1283 Cleveland, OHPosts: 3,045
    edited May 3
    BagCzech said:
    FW46778 said:
    NJ outdoor limits have been eliminated. May be go for launch.
    As much as I wish what you said was true, unfortunately it isn't. What NJ announced today (5/3) was no more COVID capacity limits for outdoor gatherings. 6 feet social distancing is still required, and concerts and other large events are not considered "outdoor gatherings". Those still have limitations. Outdoor performances are limited to no more than 200 people. For large venues with fixed seating of 1,000 or more, capacity limit increases to 50% on May 7. 


    When my wife came into my office to relay what the Governor shared today that was our discussion point -- how do they pretend to even think about enforcing the distancing at a GA type of concert?  They are going to either ignore that rule, or it will change prior to concerts happening to remove that part.  (Or, the concerts will not happen.) 
    That is just dumb to think they would be able to enforce.   
    I think in a way, it kind of intentionally allows businesses to ignore the guidelines while the governors can turn their heads away but seem like they still have an action/order in place.  Just telling businesses to “maintain social distance” is way more subjective than “here’s a strict max number cutoff”
    PJ, Please come back to Cleveland in 2018

    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta (Music Midtown Festival)
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City (Global Citizen Festival)
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly - Night II / New York City - Night II / Toronto - Night II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway - Night II / Wrigley - Night I / Wrigley - Night II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
  • D-RodD-Rod Posts: 1,005
    Cuomo reopening offices to 100% in two weeks.

    If I have to sit next to my coworkers 40 hrs a week I want to see a damn live show.
    Lol, I know the feeling 
    1996.....Toronto
    2005.....Hamilton
    2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
    2013.....London, Buffalo
    2014.....Detroit
    2016......Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston  N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
    2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
    202?.....Toronto, Ottawa, Quebec City, Hamilton 
  • on2legson2legs The Jersey ShorePosts: 10,884
    NJ will likely be at 50% of the adult population vaccinated by this weekend. 
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2
    2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2
    2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1
    2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park 
    2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)
    2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: MSG | Asbury Park

  • on2legson2legs The Jersey ShorePosts: 10,884
    NJ will be following the CDC on social distancing… as in eliminating it if the CDC moves that way.  Which would be a major hurdle cleared for SHN.


    https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2021/05/nj-will-follow-cdc-guidance-if-6-foot-social-distancing-guidance-is-changed-murphy-says.html

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    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2
    2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2
    2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1
    2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park 
    2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)
    2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: MSG | Asbury Park

  • PJNBPJNB New BrunswickPosts: 8,331
    on2legs said:
    NJ will be following the CDC on social distancing… as in eliminating it if the CDC moves that way.  Which would be a major hurdle cleared for SHN.


    https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2021/05/nj-will-follow-cdc-guidance-if-6-foot-social-distancing-guidance-is-changed-murphy-says.html

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    Getting closer and closer to seeing this happen. Still a major hurdle to clear and I am not sure there is enough time to do it but here is to hoping. 
    PJ
    2013 Worcester 1 & 2
    2016 Quebec, Toronto 2, Fenway 1&2, Wrigley 2
    2018 Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Seattle 2, Wrigley 2, Fenway 1&2 

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  • RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 1,266
    Broadway to 100% capacity on 9/14.
  • Father HubbardFather Hubbard Posts: 1,210
    Broadway to 100% capacity on 9/14.
    The Apollo would make a nice warmup
  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NYPosts: 1,779
    Broadway to 100% capacity on 9/14.
    😱😱😱 YESSSS
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  • RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 1,266
    Broadway to 100% capacity on 9/14.
    The Apollo would make a nice warmup
    ISO Apollo single...
  • Luckytwn1Luckytwn1 Posts: 333
    Broadway to 100% capacity on 9/14.
    With vaccinations required or a negative test within the window. There is no doubt that by fall any event that complies with that will be allowed to go on. The question again is what events that were ticketed before such a requirement existed will do. 
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 10,752
    Luckytwn1 said:
    Broadway to 100% capacity on 9/14.
    With vaccinations required or a negative test within the window. There is no doubt that by fall any event that complies with that will be allowed to go on. The question again is what events that were ticketed before such a requirement existed will do. 
    And what is proof of vaccination? That silly little card?  I know a guy..........
  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NYPosts: 1,779
    Get_Right said:
    Luckytwn1 said:
    Broadway to 100% capacity on 9/14.
    With vaccinations required or a negative test within the window. There is no doubt that by fall any event that complies with that will be allowed to go on. The question again is what events that were ticketed before such a requirement existed will do. 
    And what is proof of vaccination? That silly little card?  I know a guy..........
    https://covid19vaccine.health.ny.gov/excelsior-pass
    DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18
  • on2legson2legs The Jersey ShorePosts: 10,884
    Luckytwn1 said:
    Broadway to 100% capacity on 9/14.
    With vaccinations required or a negative test within the window. There is no doubt that by fall any event that complies with that will be allowed to go on. The question again is what events that were ticketed before such a requirement existed will do. 
    Welcome to the club =)
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2
    2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2
    2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1
    2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park 
    2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)
    2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: MSG | Asbury Park

  • Luckytwn1Luckytwn1 Posts: 333
    on2legs said:
    Luckytwn1 said:
    Broadway to 100% capacity on 9/14.
    With vaccinations required or a negative test within the window. There is no doubt that by fall any event that complies with that will be allowed to go on. The question again is what events that were ticketed before such a requirement existed will do. 
    Welcome to the club =)
    Never doubted that and never said otherwise. Every event now will require that. Again, there is a distinction between events announced and ones announced previously. For new events, you are purchasing a ticket knowing you must comply. 
  • Luckytwn1Luckytwn1 Posts: 333
    Get_Right said:
    Luckytwn1 said:
    Broadway to 100% capacity on 9/14.
    With vaccinations required or a negative test within the window. There is no doubt that by fall any event that complies with that will be allowed to go on. The question again is what events that were ticketed before such a requirement existed will do. 
    And what is proof of vaccination? That silly little card?  I know a guy..........
    https://covid19vaccine.health.ny.gov/excelsior-pass
    Excelsior Pass is not required for admission. At least for now. 

    “Participation in Excelsior Pass is voluntary. New Yorkers can always show alternate proof of vaccination or testing, like another mobile application or paper form, directly at a business or venue.”
  • on2legson2legs The Jersey ShorePosts: 10,884
    Luckytwn1 said:
    on2legs said:
    Luckytwn1 said:
    Broadway to 100% capacity on 9/14.
    With vaccinations required or a negative test within the window. There is no doubt that by fall any event that complies with that will be allowed to go on. The question again is what events that were ticketed before such a requirement existed will do. 
    Welcome to the club =)
    Never doubted that and never said otherwise. Every event now will require that. Again, there is a distinction between events announced and ones announced previously. For new events, you are purchasing a ticket knowing you must comply. 
    Lol. Ok. 

    As to your other point.  You’re making it out to be like there is going to be a Supreme Court battle over the venue requiring a vaccination or have a test for people who already have tickets.  That’s not happening.  They will simply announce the policy change and 99% of people will comply and the rest can get a refund.

    Ticket policies can change after you purchase. I guarantee you there is language somewhere in the agreement when you click yes to buy that covers it.  It’s happened before.  The dramatic security changes for admittance to sporting events after 9/11 is an example.  I had World Series tickets purchased in August that year and the policies at Yankee Stadium changed dramatically after the attack.  

    The only thing standing in the way of the show happening is if the numbers don’t continue to trend in the right direction.  We can only hope for the best on that.  Ticket policies will not be impediment.  
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2
    2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2
    2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1
    2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park 
    2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)
    2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: MSG | Asbury Park

  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 10,752
    Luckytwn1 said:
    Get_Right said:
    Luckytwn1 said:
    Broadway to 100% capacity on 9/14.
    With vaccinations required or a negative test within the window. There is no doubt that by fall any event that complies with that will be allowed to go on. The question again is what events that were ticketed before such a requirement existed will do. 
    And what is proof of vaccination? That silly little card?  I know a guy..........
    https://covid19vaccine.health.ny.gov/excelsior-pass
    Excelsior Pass is not required for admission. At least for now. 

    “Participation in Excelsior Pass is voluntary. New Yorkers can always show alternate proof of vaccination or testing, like another mobile application or paper form, directly at a business or venue.”
    Ya I am vaccinated! Here are my papers!  Average security screening at a venue: "you are good dude" This is not so simple. 
  • Luckytwn1Luckytwn1 Posts: 333
    edited May 6
    Get_Right said:
    Luckytwn1 said:
    Get_Right said:
    Luckytwn1 said:
    Broadway to 100% capacity on 9/14.
    With vaccinations required or a negative test within the window. There is no doubt that by fall any event that complies with that will be allowed to go on. The question again is what events that were ticketed before such a requirement existed will do. 
    And what is proof of vaccination? That silly little card?  I know a guy..........
    https://covid19vaccine.health.ny.gov/excelsior-pass
    Excelsior Pass is not required for admission. At least for now. 

    “Participation in Excelsior Pass is voluntary. New Yorkers can always show alternate proof of vaccination or testing, like another mobile application or paper form, directly at a business or venue.”
    Ya I am vaccinated! Here are my papers!  Average security screening at a venue: "you are good dude" This is not so simple. 
    That’s why I mentioned, at least not yet. As several Broadway producers said today, plans are predicated on people being comfortable to sit in a place like a Broadway theater and if they’re not comfortable then they’re not going to buy tickets. So if people start to have a fear that a vaccination requirement isn’t working properly, at least some will stay home. 
  • Ryan_WFCRyan_WFC Posts: 1,237
    Which night would PJ play?
    "They said ... timing was everything
    made him ... want to be everywhere
    there's a ... lot to be said for nowhere."
  • on2legson2legs The Jersey ShorePosts: 10,884
    Get_Right said:
    Go on Twitter.  People regularly brag about buying fake COVID tests to get on airplanes.  I saw one where the person was mad that they paid $75 for it and the screener never even asked to see it. 
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2
    2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2
    2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1
    2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park 
    2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)
    2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: MSG | Asbury Park

  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 10,752
    on2legs said:
    Get_Right said:
    Go on Twitter.  People regularly brag about buying fake COVID tests to get on airplanes.  I saw one where the person was mad that they paid $75 for it and the screener never even asked to see it. 
    Not surprised one bit.  For me personally, there is just too much misinformation and bad actors out there to really have a sense of safety.  I have tickets to indoor August shows in Philly, a trip planned to Austin for a large outdoor event, and I will be full vaxed by next week, but I still have my doubts.

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