Sea. Hear. Now Festival 2020 Update

Get_Right

Weston1283 said:

on2legs said:

CBS News reported this morning 106 million people have been vaccinated to date nationwide which is 40% of the adult population.  

Which means we’re 60-70% of the way there considering only about 70% of people will take it

With other larger festivals like Bonnaroo basically guaranteed to happen this fall, I find it almost impossible that This and Ohana will not happen 

Who says they are guaranteed?  I think there is a decent chance they will happen, but I also think they just want your money.

OceansJenny

on2legs said:

OceansJenny said:

Are the $205 per person 2-day tickets the only ones available right now? Looking as a new buyer.

Yes... it’s been at the $205 level for quite some time. All the tickets are 2-day by the way.  They don’t sell one day tix. 

I bought 5 early bird tickets before they announced the bands for $125 each with the intent to bring the whole family.  But with the postponement, my youngest is now too old to qualify for free entry so I bought another ticket for $205 and that was back in October I think.  

Thank you! Yeah only considering now as I’m dying to see a live show, particularly PJ. May be worth it as someone else said if this holds. But looks like I don’t have to hurry to get tickets.

Weston1283

Get_Right said:

Weston1283 said:

on2legs said:

CBS News reported this morning 106 million people have been vaccinated to date nationwide which is 40% of the adult population.  

Which means we’re 60-70% of the way there considering only about 70% of people will take it

With other larger festivals like Bonnaroo basically guaranteed to happen this fall, I find it almost impossible that This and Ohana will not happen 

Who says they are guaranteed?  I think there is a decent chance they will happen, but I also think they just want your money.

Tennessee has no restrictions, the festival will happen.  Not sure if it will sell out but there's no way it doesnt happen.

F Me In The Brain

Weston1283 said:

on2legs said:

CBS News reported this morning 106 million people have been vaccinated to date nationwide which is 40% of the adult population.  

Which means we’re 60-70% of the way there considering only about 70% of people will take it

With other larger festivals like Bonnaroo basically guaranteed to happen this fall, I find it almost impossible that This and Ohana will not happen 

If you find it almost impossible that This and Ohana will not happen, would you like to give me odds?

I will be generous and say 10 to 1 that it will not happen.

If you think it is almost impossible that is free money for you.

Bet you a hundo that one of them does not happen.  $1,000 to me if one cancels.

I think they both do.  20 to 1 on that for another c note?

I hope they both go. 

I could see a reality where I attend both and have a great time. 

However, knowing NJ and CA very well, as the place I live now and the place I lived for the 20+ years prior, I think that there is a good shot they both cancel.

RatherStarved

As the saying goes, “like unbeatable” is not unbeatable.  

Jearlpam0925

F Me In The Brain said:

Weston1283 said:

on2legs said:

CBS News reported this morning 106 million people have been vaccinated to date nationwide which is 40% of the adult population.  

Which means we’re 60-70% of the way there considering only about 70% of people will take it

With other larger festivals like Bonnaroo basically guaranteed to happen this fall, I find it almost impossible that This and Ohana will not happen 

If you find it almost impossible that This and Ohana will not happen, would you like to give me odds?

I will be generous and say 10 to 1 that it will not happen.

If you think it is almost impossible that is free money for you.

Bet you a hundo that one of them does not happen.  $1,000 to me if one cancels.

I think they both do.  20 to 1 on that for another c note?

I hope they both go. 

I could see a reality where I attend both and have a great time. 

However, knowing NJ and CA very well, as the place I live now and the place I lived for the 20+ years prior, I think that there is a good shot they both cancel.

Haha, Very much same. Definitely want it to happen, but don't see it (yet). Though! More data coming out and I feel better than I did a month ago.

OceansJenny

Aren’t most areas opening up the vaccine to 16+? We don’t think we’ll be ready to go by Sept?

F Me In The Brain

Jearlpam0925 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Weston1283 said:

on2legs said:

CBS News reported this morning 106 million people have been vaccinated to date nationwide which is 40% of the adult population.  

Which means we’re 60-70% of the way there considering only about 70% of people will take it

With other larger festivals like Bonnaroo basically guaranteed to happen this fall, I find it almost impossible that This and Ohana will not happen 

If you find it almost impossible that This and Ohana will not happen, would you like to give me odds?

I will be generous and say 10 to 1 that it will not happen.

If you think it is almost impossible that is free money for you.

Bet you a hundo that one of them does not happen.  $1,000 to me if one cancels.

I think they both do.  20 to 1 on that for another c note?

I hope they both go. 

I could see a reality where I attend both and have a great time. 

However, knowing NJ and CA very well, as the place I live now and the place I lived for the 20+ years prior, I think that there is a good shot they both cancel.

Haha, Very much same. Definitely want it to happen, but don't see it (yet). Though! More data coming out and I feel better than I did a month ago.

Yeah, the numbers don't add up - but having confusing communication from what are meant to be reputable sources is nothing new, these days. 

If there are 3-4MM people getting shots every day that is certainly a good thing.  Hope it continues, hope people get their second shots, and continue to take basic precautions until we have a better understanding of what this all means....

Jearlpam0925

F Me In The Brain said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Weston1283 said:

on2legs said:

CBS News reported this morning 106 million people have been vaccinated to date nationwide which is 40% of the adult population.  

Which means we’re 60-70% of the way there considering only about 70% of people will take it

With other larger festivals like Bonnaroo basically guaranteed to happen this fall, I find it almost impossible that This and Ohana will not happen 

If you find it almost impossible that This and Ohana will not happen, would you like to give me odds?

I will be generous and say 10 to 1 that it will not happen.

If you think it is almost impossible that is free money for you.

Bet you a hundo that one of them does not happen.  $1,000 to me if one cancels.

I think they both do.  20 to 1 on that for another c note?

I hope they both go. 

I could see a reality where I attend both and have a great time. 

However, knowing NJ and CA very well, as the place I live now and the place I lived for the 20+ years prior, I think that there is a good shot they both cancel.

Haha, Very much same. Definitely want it to happen, but don't see it (yet). Though! More data coming out and I feel better than I did a month ago.

Yeah, the numbers don't add up - but having confusing communication from what are meant to be reputable sources is nothing new, these days. 

If there are 3-4MM people getting shots every day that is certainly a good thing.  Hope it continues, hope people get their second shots, and continue to take basic precautions until we have a better understanding of what this all means....

And the other part of it is there's a whole lot of runway right now, too. The rate of people getting vaxed isn't exponential and will continue to follow this great increase. As we get to more and more people with vax's you're going to start to plateau as it gets to the point that it'll get harder and harder to get enough people vaccinated - whether because of age, color, technologically illiterate (age), under-served communities, politics (ignorant, brain washed sheep), etc. etc.

All we can keep doing is keep collecting more data.....and passively aggressively coerce our dumb friends to just get the fucking shot.

RatherStarved

Jearlpam0925 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Weston1283 said:

on2legs said:

CBS News reported this morning 106 million people have been vaccinated to date nationwide which is 40% of the adult population.  

Which means we’re 60-70% of the way there considering only about 70% of people will take it

With other larger festivals like Bonnaroo basically guaranteed to happen this fall, I find it almost impossible that This and Ohana will not happen 

If you find it almost impossible that This and Ohana will not happen, would you like to give me odds?

I will be generous and say 10 to 1 that it will not happen.

If you think it is almost impossible that is free money for you.

Bet you a hundo that one of them does not happen.  $1,000 to me if one cancels.

I think they both do.  20 to 1 on that for another c note?

I hope they both go. 

I could see a reality where I attend both and have a great time. 

However, knowing NJ and CA very well, as the place I live now and the place I lived for the 20+ years prior, I think that there is a good shot they both cancel.

Haha, Very much same. Definitely want it to happen, but don't see it (yet). Though! More data coming out and I feel better than I did a month ago.

Yeah, the numbers don't add up - but having confusing communication from what are meant to be reputable sources is nothing new, these days. 

If there are 3-4MM people getting shots every day that is certainly a good thing.  Hope it continues, hope people get their second shots, and continue to take basic precautions until we have a better understanding of what this all means....

And the other part of it is there's a whole lot of runway right now, too. The rate of people getting vaxed isn't exponential and will continue to follow this great increase. As we get to more and more people with vax's you're going to start to plateau as it gets to the point that it'll get harder and harder to get enough people vaccinated - whether because of age, color, technologically illiterate (age), under-served communities, politics (ignorant, brain washed sheep), etc. etc.

All we can keep doing is keep collecting more data.....and passively aggressively coerce our dumb friends to just get the fucking shot.

I’m optimistic that science will come out that shows each vaccinated person is a firewall in the chain in addition to being protected themselves.  That will be the magic that we need for this thing to fade away.

F Me In The Brain

RatherStarved said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Weston1283 said:

on2legs said:

CBS News reported this morning 106 million people have been vaccinated to date nationwide which is 40% of the adult population.  

Which means we’re 60-70% of the way there considering only about 70% of people will take it

With other larger festivals like Bonnaroo basically guaranteed to happen this fall, I find it almost impossible that This and Ohana will not happen 

If you find it almost impossible that This and Ohana will not happen, would you like to give me odds?

I will be generous and say 10 to 1 that it will not happen.

If you think it is almost impossible that is free money for you.

Bet you a hundo that one of them does not happen.  $1,000 to me if one cancels.

I think they both do.  20 to 1 on that for another c note?

I hope they both go. 

I could see a reality where I attend both and have a great time. 

However, knowing NJ and CA very well, as the place I live now and the place I lived for the 20+ years prior, I think that there is a good shot they both cancel.

Haha, Very much same. Definitely want it to happen, but don't see it (yet). Though! More data coming out and I feel better than I did a month ago.

Yeah, the numbers don't add up - but having confusing communication from what are meant to be reputable sources is nothing new, these days. 

If there are 3-4MM people getting shots every day that is certainly a good thing.  Hope it continues, hope people get their second shots, and continue to take basic precautions until we have a better understanding of what this all means....

And the other part of it is there's a whole lot of runway right now, too. The rate of people getting vaxed isn't exponential and will continue to follow this great increase. As we get to more and more people with vax's you're going to start to plateau as it gets to the point that it'll get harder and harder to get enough people vaccinated - whether because of age, color, technologically illiterate (age), under-served communities, politics (ignorant, brain washed sheep), etc. etc.

All we can keep doing is keep collecting more data.....and passively aggressively coerce our dumb friends to just get the fucking shot.

I’m optimistic that science will come out that shows each vaccinated person is a firewall in the chain in addition to being protected themselves.  That will be the magic that we need for this thing to fade away.

This is best case scenario and would indeed be a tremendous thing.

U/f, some people already think this is the case.

Example -- our arborist shows up on our porch today and rings the bell for a set meeting.

He is not wearing a mask, although when he was here in the fall he was...and told me his neighbor died from C19.

I asked him to please put on a mask and he said "Absolutely, I will grab one from my truck.  I'm fully vaccinated now."

So, he is polite and went and put one on, but because he knows he is safe he assumes we are safe from him.

Jearlpam0925

Exactly. A lot of people who don't believe in magic apparently do in this case. Snap your fingers, poof, back to normal.

on2legs

F Me In The Brain said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Weston1283 said:

on2legs said:

CBS News reported this morning 106 million people have been vaccinated to date nationwide which is 40% of the adult population.  

Which means we’re 60-70% of the way there considering only about 70% of people will take it

With other larger festivals like Bonnaroo basically guaranteed to happen this fall, I find it almost impossible that This and Ohana will not happen 

If you find it almost impossible that This and Ohana will not happen, would you like to give me odds?

I will be generous and say 10 to 1 that it will not happen.

If you think it is almost impossible that is free money for you.

Bet you a hundo that one of them does not happen.  $1,000 to me if one cancels.

I think they both do.  20 to 1 on that for another c note?

I hope they both go. 

I could see a reality where I attend both and have a great time. 

However, knowing NJ and CA very well, as the place I live now and the place I lived for the 20+ years prior, I think that there is a good shot they both cancel.

Haha, Very much same. Definitely want it to happen, but don't see it (yet). Though! More data coming out and I feel better than I did a month ago.

Yeah, the numbers don't add up - but having confusing communication from what are meant to be reputable sources is nothing new, these days. 

If there are 3-4MM people getting shots every day that is certainly a good thing.  Hope it continues, hope people get their second shots, and continue to take basic precautions until we have a better understanding of what this all means....

CBS reported this morning that 4 million people were vaccinated on this past Friday... which is a single day high.  

PJNB

At this rate 85% of the US population will have be fully vaccinated if they choose to by Sep 6th. With numbers like the last couple of days coming in of 4 million people being vaccinated that date will only shrink closer to now. On top of that there is a point this summer where everyone that wants the vaccine will have gotten both shots. I am thinking early or mid July will be that timeline. Fall is very doable for outdoor festivals in the US. 

RatherStarved

F Me In The Brain said:

RatherStarved said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Weston1283 said:

on2legs said:

CBS News reported this morning 106 million people have been vaccinated to date nationwide which is 40% of the adult population.  

Which means we’re 60-70% of the way there considering only about 70% of people will take it

With other larger festivals like Bonnaroo basically guaranteed to happen this fall, I find it almost impossible that This and Ohana will not happen 

If you find it almost impossible that This and Ohana will not happen, would you like to give me odds?

I will be generous and say 10 to 1 that it will not happen.

If you think it is almost impossible that is free money for you.

Bet you a hundo that one of them does not happen.  $1,000 to me if one cancels.

I think they both do.  20 to 1 on that for another c note?

I hope they both go. 

I could see a reality where I attend both and have a great time. 

However, knowing NJ and CA very well, as the place I live now and the place I lived for the 20+ years prior, I think that there is a good shot they both cancel.

Haha, Very much same. Definitely want it to happen, but don't see it (yet). Though! More data coming out and I feel better than I did a month ago.

Yeah, the numbers don't add up - but having confusing communication from what are meant to be reputable sources is nothing new, these days. 

If there are 3-4MM people getting shots every day that is certainly a good thing.  Hope it continues, hope people get their second shots, and continue to take basic precautions until we have a better understanding of what this all means....

And the other part of it is there's a whole lot of runway right now, too. The rate of people getting vaxed isn't exponential and will continue to follow this great increase. As we get to more and more people with vax's you're going to start to plateau as it gets to the point that it'll get harder and harder to get enough people vaccinated - whether because of age, color, technologically illiterate (age), under-served communities, politics (ignorant, brain washed sheep), etc. etc.

All we can keep doing is keep collecting more data.....and passively aggressively coerce our dumb friends to just get the fucking shot.

I’m optimistic that science will come out that shows each vaccinated person is a firewall in the chain in addition to being protected themselves.  That will be the magic that we need for this thing to fade away.

This is best case scenario and would indeed be a tremendous thing.

U/f, some people already think this is the case.

Example -- our arborist shows up on our porch today and rings the bell for a set meeting.

He is not wearing a mask, although when he was here in the fall he was...and told me his neighbor died from C19.

I asked him to please put on a mask and he said "Absolutely, I will grab one from my truck.  I'm fully vaccinated now."

So, he is polite and went and put one on, but because he knows he is safe he assumes we are safe from him.

He is probably right, but the science isn’t out yet to prove it.  So yes, masks for the vaccinated too until there is data.  

OceansJenny

Has anyone been to this festival before? Was it fun? Trying to justify buying and pair plus one night hotel (prob $600 total min?) as this may be the first show back for the band.

Also do the pumpkins suck now or did those complaining always dislike them? I enjoy their early stuff. 

on2legs

OceansJenny said:

Has anyone been to this festival before? Was it fun? Trying to justify buying and pair plus one night hotel (prob $600 total min?) as this may be the first show back for the band.

Also do the pumpkins suck now or did those complaining always dislike them? I enjoy their early stuff. 

I saw the Pumpkins a couple years ago on their anniversary tour.  They sounded awesome and I’m just a casual fan.   I don’t get too deep into all the Billy Corgan drama so I think it allows me to appreciate them more than other fans. 

matt84

I think this festival and Ohana have a very good shot at going ahead in September simply because they are outside in the open air. There is much less risk involved. 

I think any indoor shows that are due to go ahead in the US in September will likely be called off. I think indoor shows are still at least a year away from happening.

RatherStarved

Check out the Blue Jays-Rangers game right now - not the game but the crowd - almost 40k.  They are going to 25% tomorrow, but full house today.  Unreal!

kaw753

OceansJenny said:

Has anyone been to this festival before? Was it fun? Trying to justify buying and pair plus one night hotel (prob $600 total min?) as this may be the first show back for the band.

Also do the pumpkins suck now or did those complaining always dislike them? I enjoy their early stuff. 

The ads for this tour basically said "We promise not to play anything that Billy Corgan did after 2000." The one I saw literally listed the albums they would play songs from.